WALTHAM FOREST / REDBRIDGE: 28-year-old cyclist killed in collision last night is named (From This Is Local London)

What exactly does this reporter mean suggesting that HE collided with the bus, rather than the opposite which is immediately obvious with the police having charged the bus driver: the BUS collided with him!
Get the reporter and a photographer down to the same spot and see at first-hand just how the buses swarm past that point, how there is a total lack (over 7 years since the 2012 award date) of adequate cycle lane signage, and how drivers' ignore what little there is, and thus give your readers the full benefit of an accident analysis instead of putting completely the wrong reflection on it.

in reply to redfox first of all its standard procedure for the driver of any vehicle to be arrested if there is a fatal accident secondly after being a coach driver for the past 10 years and this is not judging the above incident in anyway but cyclists do nothing to help there cause one bit,do they still ride up the inside of large vehicles,yes do they jump red lights putting themselves at danger and members of the public,yes do they stick to cycle lanes when available,no and most of them ride wearing mp3 players of some sort so have not a clue whats coming up behind them and as bradley wiggins as said something does need to be done about cycling in london but its just not all aimed at the driver if cyclists ride on the road they to should be governed by exactly the same laws as everybody else on the roads and one last thing may you RIP dan harris x

Beefythfc says "but cyclists do nothing to help there cause one bit,do they still ride up the inside of large vehicles,yes do they jump red lights putting themselves at danger and members of the public"

In response to this I have copied a blog posting on this subject from http://waronthemotor
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"Eilidh Cairns, an experienced commuter cyclist, was killed in February 2009, when a tipper truck driven by Joao Lopes ploughed over her from behind. Lopes was fined £200 for driving with defective vision, but the death was ruled “accidental” and he was free to kill again.

Catriona Patel, an experienced commuter cyclist, was killed in the Monday morning rush hour in June 2009. Pulling away from the Advanced Stop Line as the lights turned green outside Oval Station, a 32-tonne tipper lorry driven by Dennis Putz accelerated into her. Witnesses had to bang on the side of the truck before the oblivious Putz stopped. Putz was a serial dangerous driver, was hung-over — 40% over the limit — and talking on his mobile phone. He denied a charge of causing death by dangerous driving, but was sentenced to 7 years for it.

Brian Dorling, an experienced commuter cyclist and motorcyclist, was killed in the morning rush hour in October last year. A tipper truck turned across his path at the Bow Intersection. They had to use his dental records to identify him.

Deep Lee was struck by a lorry from behind as the lights turned green; Svitlana Tereschenko was killed by a tipper truck whose distracted driver failed to indicate before turning and driving over her. Daniel Cox was run over by a truck which did not have the correct mirrors and whose driver had pulled into the ASL on a red light and was indicating in the opposite direction to which he turned.

Try telling Ian McNicoll that his son Andrew, well versed in cyclecraft as a road and commuter cyclist, should have known better than to throw himself under the wheels of the articulated lorry that side-swiped while overtaking him in Edinburgh. Try telling Debbie Dorling that her cycle and motorcycle-trained husband should have behaved differently at Bow. Try telling Allister Carey that the death of his daughter Eleanor under the wheels of a lorry in Tower Bridge Road was her own fault.

The cycling “community” in this country might not always agree about the most appropriate or desirable method for reducing exposure to danger and its role as a barrier to cycling, but I think at least one thing can unite us: anyone who, knowing little about the world beyond California, says that the problem here is all cyclists’ own fault for throwing themselves under the wheels of trucks, is an **** who can keep his discredited half-baked ideas to himself."

Just to note...wearing an mp3 player does not automatically mean the listener is oblivious of sound. Adjust the volume correctly and one can in fact hear both the music AND the sound of vehicles, pedestrians and other noises of the vicinity. The earplugs do not block out external sound. In fact mine are frequently drowned out by traffic noise.

When Beefythfc says "most of them ride wearing mp3 players of some sort so have not a clue whats coming up behind them" this is a classic example of victim blaming, and a distraction from the obvious reality that if a car strikes a cyclist from behind, then it's the driver's fault.

In reality, wearing headphones whilst cycling is not going to make any difference to the safety of the cyclist. There's a constant drone of loud traffic noise when cycling in any city, so if an inattentive driver is going to run you down then it's not going to make any difference whether you hear it coming or not, unless of course all cyclists are expected to bail onto the pavement every time they hear a car's engine.

I totally agree, skealey.

RIP Daniel, if the coach/bus driver is at fault then he or she should face the full force of the law for what they did.

Please let's not turn this terrible tragedy into another cyclists v drivers v pedestrians arguement.

Redfox, don't jump to conclusions. i remember reading an account of another cyclist who was with him when the accident occured.

The actual full story has been taken down out of respect to the family but his emotional account did not seem to lay blame on the bus driver necessarliy.

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