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Ex-council leader: High Streets 'stuffed' with too many charity shops

Princes Risborough High Street: The town is highlighted as one with too many charity shops by Cllr Colomb Princes Risborough High Street: The town is highlighted as one with too many charity shops by Cllr Colomb

A SUBSIDY Wycombe District Council gives to charity shops which excludes them from paying business rates should be withdrawn, a former Tory Leader has said.

Cllr Roger Colomb, an ex-WDC Leader, suggested removing the concession as one of many measures to promote economic regeneration, saying there were too many charity stores on high streets.

Charities enjoy an 80 per cent mandatory relief from rates, as set by the Government.

But the remaining 20 per cent is given up by WDC, meaning charity shops pay absolutely no rates.

Cllr Colomb headed a review about the economy and reporting to Cabinet on Monday night, said he believes WDC should withdraw the 20 per cent subsidy.

He believes the 'multiplicity' of charity shops is a problem across the district.

“We've got this peculiar situation where the high streets are getting stuffed with charity shops,” he told the BFP.

“They're not contributing much to the economy at all.”

He highlighted Princes Risborough, saying: “If you go onto the street off the high street, which already has many, you have more charity shops there, it's quite ludicrous.”

Cllr Colomb pointed to the fact that in empty premises landlords have to pay the national non-domestic rates.

“They're desperate for anyone to come in to offload this responsibility,” he said, adding that letting to charities solves this problem.

But he said not all of the district town centres' retail store mix is unbalanced.

He said: “It's not as bad in Marlow. Marlow High Street is fairly buoyant in retail terms, shops don't stay shut very long in Marlow.”

Cllr Colomb made the suggestion because the Government is changing the policy on rates.

However, because it is unclear how Ministers will do this, WDC's Cabinet rejected the proposal, saying it was not currently viable.

Warren Alexander, Chief Executive of the Charity Retail Association, dismissed the idea, telling the BFP: “There's something of a myth about charity shops on the High Street.

“They represent a very small proportion of UK shops. There's a view that by restricting the number on the high street there will be a huge revival of independent stores. That's utter nonsense.

“By restricting charity shops, there'd be more empty shops.

“Charity shops are only there because they're fulfilling a need.

“Our own research demonstrates how much people like charity shops. They attract people to the high street, they increase footfall.”

The association encourages Government and councils to create diversity and supports rate relief for new independent traders.

Most charity shops would close if rate relief was withdrawn, he added.

Do you want fewer charity shops in your high street or are you a fan of the stores? Let us know your views.

Comments(13)

yog says...
11:28am Sun 12 Feb 12

What a clown.

Let's make it unaffordable for charity shops so we have boarded up shops instead!

Perhaps if the Tories had a plan to regenerate our town centres there wouldn't be the empty shops.

wayneo says...
1:22pm Sun 12 Feb 12

For once I agree completely with Mr Colomb, he is right but unfortunately much of the work that is needed to regenerate the High Street, is constrained by the Government who control the planning legislation,. Until there is a level playing field, one might as well set up a charity rather than a business then take advantage of the business rates.

Slacker says...
1:30pm Sun 12 Feb 12

Charities pay their top brass big salaries too, so why are WDC not claiming this 20% ??
It is much needed money. Why should other businesses pay for their upkeep?
That may not seem charitable but charities are a business too, they are there to make a profit so they should pay their share even if their share is only 20%.

BOOKERite says...
1:43pm Sun 12 Feb 12

The reason why there are so many charity shops in the High Street is because the former leaders of WDC, built the ill thought out Eden Centre which, instead of incorporating the High Street annexed it.
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I personally would sooner spend a portion of my council tax on charity (and I presume that this is a relatively small amount of money), than the millions that Cllr Colomb, amongst others, wanted to spend on building a rugby stadium.

geoffW says...
9:31pm Sun 12 Feb 12

This is Earth Mr Columb. I don't know which planet you are from but it certainly isn't this one.
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There are charity shops springing up all over the place because they are filling the shops left empty by traders who couldn't make a living from them. This is due to the decrease in footfall and the fact that people aren't spending as much.
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More and more people are shopping online, shopping in the out of town stores or using the big supermarkets who stock a little of everything.
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Warren Alexander should realize that charity shops increase the footfall in our high streets ... with people who haven't much to spend and rely on pound shops and charity shops. Those people won't use traditional shops as they are too expensive. They won't buy meat from a butcher's shop when they can get it at a quarter of the price in the supermarket. the quality at the butcher is much, much better than the value packs at the supermarket ... but that is all some people can afford. Same for many other products. The increased footfall from the increase in charity shops will only bring in more pound shops and .... charity shops.
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geoffW says...
9:31pm Sun 12 Feb 12

This is Earth Mr Columb. I don't know which planet you are from but it certainly isn't this one.
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There are charity shops springing up all over the place because they are filling the shops left empty by traders who couldn't make a living from them. This is due to the decrease in footfall and the fact that people aren't spending as much.
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More and more people are shopping online, shopping in the out of town stores or using the big supermarkets who stock a little of everything.
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Warren Alexander should realize that charity shops increase the footfall in our high streets ... with people who haven't much to spend and rely on pound shops and charity shops. Those people won't use traditional shops as they are too expensive. They won't buy meat from a butcher's shop when they can get it at a quarter of the price in the supermarket. the quality at the butcher is much, much better than the value packs at the supermarket ... but that is all some people can afford. Same for many other products. The increased footfall from the increase in charity shops will only bring in more pound shops and .... charity shops.
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Edwina Lee says...
9:55pm Sun 12 Feb 12

Discount council taxes so that the more marginally profitable businesses become viable.
New novel kinds of businesses need to be given priority, so that we don't get even more retailers competing with each other for narrower margins.
Yeap, more state directed capitalism!

Lawrence Linehan says...
10:02pm Sun 12 Feb 12

Yog and geoffW have it dead right, beside this there is a national trend for chain stores to set up in shopping malls - if Marlow had an enormous shopping mall there would be more empty and charity shops in the high street there.

gpn01 says...
10:20pm Sun 12 Feb 12

Perhaps Cllr Colomb should be given the opportunity to explain how making it more expensive for charity shops would promote economic generation? If there was 100% occupancy of shop units, or demand was outstripping supply, then I could understand the rationale. However, as argued by many others in the comments section, the charity shops would otherwise remain empty.
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I think Cllr Colomb needs to consider also that the charity shops, in addition to the obvious societal benefit of raising money for good causes, provide an invaluable source of low price goods for those who can't afford top notch high street prices. I'm sure that for some people in the Wycombe District the charity shops are a lifeline if they're on a low income. How would Cllr Colomb propose addressing that need?

clairabella says...
7:37am Mon 13 Feb 12

Interesting debate. I always feel pulled two ways I support charities as they do a important job. As retailers they have an unfair advantage most don't have to buy stock, staffing in mainly voluntary except the manager, rents reduced, rates reduced.
I don't see them get involved in drawing in customers to town as an independent would.
Yes people can buy products cheaply but they are not local to charities as I see them go door to door.
The problem with having to many is that there is no point of difference to them and any new shop setting up is seen as a charity shop or a tempory shop.
Why not offer new business reduced rates. Advertise this so people will start setting up. Also landlords to advertise the reduced rents not the out of date rents from 5 years ago.

washondo says...
10:13am Mon 13 Feb 12

Perhaps a little more imaginative development for residential use especially the upper storeys. Short of accommodation?

Voyeur says...
6:52am Tue 14 Feb 12

Perhaps Cllr Columb thinks it is better to see shops boarded up, than charity shops in the High Street?

I would have thought that balance is what is required and also it is better to have shops looking busy and being used than empty boarded up shops.

Surely, as a Tory, he believes if the free market and if the free market wants charity shops, why stop it?

marlow678 says...
9:14am Tue 14 Feb 12

Charity shops are the cancer High Street.

If there is 100% occupation or not is by the by, they eat up supply of shops and therefore artificially increase demand, letting landlords keep rents high, and meaning they don't have to pay rates on empty shops forcing them to drop rents.

Charity shops can afford to pay rents that commercial businesses can't as they
A) pay little or no rates
B) no vat
C) no staff costs
D) little stock costs

with all of this taken into account, they don't mind paying inflated rents.

They are one of the many reasons book shops have gone (along with the internet). Now charity shops stock brand new Jewellery, Cards, Toys, Sweets etc eating into the profits of other firms on the high street.

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