WALTHAMSTOW: Image of revived EMD released (From This Is Local London)

as usual, instead of doing something constructive like actually raising some cash, the mcGuffins do anything else but this which is totally an irrelevance.
Dressing up as daleks, spidermans and now playing on computers to imagine what it would be like. ctually looks like a church!

I have no complaints with McGuffins' keeping this project in the public eye. What I do seriously object to is the indisputable fact, for as long as it's been shut - 2004, not once has the jolly-old conservations (sic) officer got the site open so that we can see inside.
I repeat again, that the English Heritage Eastern Regions Officer informed me in 2008, the Waltham Forest C.O. makes a yearly inspection for a written report.
WHERE ARE THOSE WRITTEN REPORTS AND WHY AREN'T THEY AVAILABLE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN?

Mr Osborne's email contact is in the public domain, Redfox, why don't you ask him yourself? guy.osborne@walthamf
orest.gov.uk

If Mick Jagger was in the slightest bit interested he could buy it outright with the change in his back pocket. Also I'm slightly concerned that the Carpet Factory outlet next door appears to have been removed, if so then I would like to be the first to start a campaign to restore it to its former glory.

Like the picture of the EMD shows, the mcGuffins are in a fantasy world of make believe and agree that if any famous people were interested they would have put some money up to properly start a campaign fund. All pure speculation and unsubtantiated like waffle. Daleks and make believe.

An excellent and innovative design. I seem to remember there was a proposal some years ago to open a Hitchcock museum in the borough as a tourist attraction, but the project did not proceed due to lack of suitable premises. This would certainly solve that problem.
The plain facts are that we need to regenerate Walthamstow, and we need plans such as these to provide the means. If we cannot draw in visitors (with their spending money) from outside the borough, regeneration funding will have to be paid for by increased council tax.
The council should give these plans their full support. Anyone who thinks a church will benefit the area is living in Cuckoo-Land.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to go see a film in Walthamstow again? It's embarrassing that we're the only London Borough without a cinema.

A wonderful plan! It's so embarrassing that we don't have a cinema in Walthamstow. It will be fantastic to go to 'The Alred Hitchcok Picture House'. Thank you, McGuffins, for your campaign.

Guardian, can you please correct the spelling to 'Alfred Hitchcock Picture Palace'.

The Stowaway wrote:
If Mick Jagger was in the slightest bit interested he could buy it outright with the change in his back pocket. Also I'm slightly concerned that the Carpet Factory outlet next door appears to have been removed, if so then I would like to be the first to start a campaign to restore it to its former glory.

Mick Jagger can't buy the cinema unless the UCKG are willing to sell it and they previously declined an offer which would have given them over half a million £ in profit.

The council's own report shows that the EMD's best use is not as a UCKG church. Waltham Forest Council can help UCKG to find an alternative venue which may be the best way to get them to sell the building.

Lucifer1 wrote:
An excellent and innovative design. I seem to remember there was a proposal some years ago to open a Hitchcock museum in the borough as a tourist attraction, but the project did not proceed due to lack of suitable premises. This would certainly solve that problem. The plain facts are that we need to regenerate Walthamstow, and we need plans such as these to provide the means. If we cannot draw in visitors (with their spending money) from outside the borough, regeneration funding will have to be paid for by increased council tax. The council should give these plans their full support. Anyone who thinks a church will benefit the area is living in Cuckoo-Land.

Yes i am sure that there will not be a queue of hard working people with families waiting at the Council tax Office waiting to pay even more council tax for a Folly for a few Dalek worshippers. You can draw whatever imaginary pictures you want but it will never be a Cinema again beacause a) a church owns it b) There is no spare money and c) it is too late to save it.
Ask Mick jagger for the money or Baldrick?

rubberneck wrote:

Lucifer1 wrote: An excellent and innovative design. I seem to remember there was a proposal some years ago to open a Hitchcock museum in the borough as a tourist attraction, but the project did not proceed due to lack of suitable premises. This would certainly solve that problem. The plain facts are that we need to regenerate Walthamstow, and we need plans such as these to provide the means. If we cannot draw in visitors (with their spending money) from outside the borough, regeneration funding will have to be paid for by increased council tax. The council should give these plans their full support. Anyone who thinks a church will benefit the area is living in Cuckoo-Land.

Yes i am sure that there will not be a queue of hard working people with families waiting at the Council tax Office waiting to pay even more council tax for a Folly for a few Dalek worshippers. You can draw whatever imaginary pictures you want but it will never be a Cinema again beacause a) a church owns it b) There is no spare money and c) it is too late to save it. Ask Mick jagger for the money or Baldrick?

Usually I would simply ignore your Troll-like nonsense, but with such an open goal to prove your foolishness I really cannot resist.
You see, it would help if you were actually to READ postings before attacking them. I'll go through it again, and this time try reading it more slowly as it may help you to understand more clearly.
First of all, we need to regenerate Walthamstow. This is simply a fact. There is no Plan B.
With the current economic situation, it is very unlikely that central government will produce the required funding. Therefore, we need to find ways to attract outside money into the area. If we do NOT achieve this, then the only way to raise regeneration funding is by the raising of council tax.
On this basis, reopening the venue for entertainment purposes would result in a long term SAVING for the borough.

Those in favour of this course of action include: local residents, local businesses, the MP for Walthamstow, the MP for Chingford, the Lib-dem council group and the official council consultants.
Those in favour of a church include:
a few odd councillors and (probably) the Flat-Earth Society.

rubberneck wrote:
as usual, instead of doing something constructive like actually raising some cash, the mcGuffins do anything else but this which is totally an irrelevance.
Dressing up as daleks, spidermans and now playing on computers to imagine what it would be like. ctually looks like a church!

Rubberneck would imply you get your entertainment from looking at car accidents, which probably means the cinema is far too intellectual a pursuit for you. Even something like Marmaduke would probably be too complicated.
Or perhaps you are a 'regular' of the UCKG, in which case the above arguments would also apply...

misterhat wrote:

rubberneck wrote: as usual, instead of doing something constructive like actually raising some cash, the mcGuffins do anything else but this which is totally an irrelevance. Dressing up as daleks, spidermans and now playing on computers to imagine what it would be like. ctually looks like a church!

Rubberneck would imply you get your entertainment from looking at car accidents, which probably means the cinema is far too intellectual a pursuit for you. Even something like Marmaduke would probably be too complicated. Or perhaps you are a 'regular' of the UCKG, in which case the above arguments would also apply...

Mockery may be your idea of an argument, and this is exactly why no Grant body will ever take any of the campaigners seriously and never grant any money to a campaign the highlight of which seems to be a fancy dress competition and daleks outside a Grade 2 listed building. No campaign fund in place since the cinema closed just cheap publicity stunts with so called support from 'stars' but no money. Local community working hard for their families are not working hard to buy a Cinema for a minority. As for council tax increasing to pay for it, your realy are losing marbles.

rubberneck wrote:

misterhat wrote:

rubberneck wrote: as usual, instead of doing something constructive like actually raising some cash, the mcGuffins do anything else but this which is totally an irrelevance. Dressing up as daleks, spidermans and now playing on computers to imagine what it would be like. ctually looks like a church!

Rubberneck would imply you get your entertainment from looking at car accidents, which probably means the cinema is far too intellectual a pursuit for you. Even something like Marmaduke would probably be too complicated. Or perhaps you are a 'regular' of the UCKG, in which case the above arguments would also apply...

Mockery may be your idea of an argument, and this is exactly why no Grant body will ever take any of the campaigners seriously and never grant any money to a campaign the highlight of which seems to be a fancy dress competition and daleks outside a Grade 2 listed building. No campaign fund in place since the cinema closed just cheap publicity stunts with so called support from 'stars' but no money. Local community working hard for their families are not working hard to buy a Cinema for a minority. As for council tax increasing to pay for it, your realy are losing marbles.

So the cinema would be for a minority?
Do you mean those elitist, highbrow toffs with kids who want to see Toy Story 3, the world's highest ever grossing film and currently on show in every London borough except this one?

From what I can see it looks like it's on show at the cinema in the picture.

Just think of all those cinema tickets, drinks, popcorn, bites to eat at a place near by. Oh dear me no, Walthamstow doesn't need any of that income, please let it go to other places. No it's just fine with foxes and gangs having the run of the High Street and along Hoe Street every night, and families and kids scared to go out after dark. Who needs regeneration?

thegayfalcon wrote:

rubberneck wrote:

misterhat wrote:

rubberneck wrote: as usual, instead of doing something constructive like actually raising some cash, the mcGuffins do anything else but this which is totally an irrelevance. Dressing up as daleks, spidermans and now playing on computers to imagine what it would be like. ctually looks like a church!

Rubberneck would imply you get your entertainment from looking at car accidents, which probably means the cinema is far too intellectual a pursuit for you. Even something like Marmaduke would probably be too complicated. Or perhaps you are a 'regular' of the UCKG, in which case the above arguments would also apply...

Mockery may be your idea of an argument, and this is exactly why no Grant body will ever take any of the campaigners seriously and never grant any money to a campaign the highlight of which seems to be a fancy dress competition and daleks outside a Grade 2 listed building. No campaign fund in place since the cinema closed just cheap publicity stunts with so called support from 'stars' but no money. Local community working hard for their families are not working hard to buy a Cinema for a minority. As for council tax increasing to pay for it, your realy are losing marbles.

So the cinema would be for a minority? Do you mean those elitist, highbrow toffs with kids who want to see Toy Story 3, the world's highest ever grossing film and currently on show in every London borough except this one? From what I can see it looks like it's on show at the cinema in the picture. Just think of all those cinema tickets, drinks, popcorn, bites to eat at a place near by. Oh dear me no, Walthamstow doesn't need any of that income, please let it go to other places. No it's just fine with foxes and gangs having the run of the High Street and along Hoe Street every night, and families and kids scared to go out after dark. Who needs regeneration?

If it would be so so successful why have these so called 'backers' not come forward to make the church an offer they really could not refuse? Answer is that despit the pipe dreams the place is a white elephant, in a different time, no parking , no proper facilities, no money and no real interest except the Church who want to spend money (their money) on it.