Racists vandalise Chalfont St Peter play area
7:00am Friday 5th February 2010 in Where I Live By Andy Carswell
RACIST graffiti has been sprayed on children's play equipment in Chalfont St Peter.
Nazi swastikas and National Front logos are among the tags to have daubed on items at the play area on Gold Hill Common.
The village's Community Centre, telephone boxes and walls and benches have also been attacked by vandals.
Chalfont St Peter Parish Council has since paid to have the damage caused in the playground painted over.
But Cllr Isobel Darby said money from the repair bill could have been put to better use on other things.
She said: “Anti-social behaviour costs money to deal with, and we would rather spend it in better play equipment.
“It's not just a cost in terms of money and our employees' time, it's at a cost to the taxpayer as well.”
Cllr Darby said tackling vandalism was a key priority for the parish council.
She said: “The parish council are quite hot on graffiti of any description. The longer it's there, the more it encourages other people to do it.
“The best thing to do is to ignore them and paint over it, then they haven't made their point for very long.
“We're taking it very seriously. We want to remove it because it's offensive to people. I'm against graffiti of any nature.”
She urged anyone with information to contact police, adding graffiti of a racist nature had appeared in the village before.
Police investigating the attacks believe they took place at the weekend.
Officers said: “This is part of an emerging pattern in the area and police are appealing for help in identifying the offenders.”
Anyone with information should contact Thames Valley Police on 08458 505 505 or the Crimestoppers charity on 0800 555 111.
Comments(43)
ferrellcat
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9:23am Fri 5 Feb 10
Dr Truth wrote:yes it looks nice there before the graffiti ?
That's the strangest children's play equipment I've ever seen
JP80
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9:26am Fri 5 Feb 10
ferrellcat
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9:30am Fri 5 Feb 10
wayneo
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10:56am Fri 5 Feb 10
DocD
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11:38am Fri 5 Feb 10
If we link this to an attack on an Asian taxi driver we can see a picture emerging:
http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/news/474
6236.Chalfont_St_Pet
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Ahead of this year's election we need to be vigilant and start taking racist violence seriously.
davecsp
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11:45am Fri 5 Feb 10
ferrellcat wrote:Please see my comment about the man the beat in front of his family:
probably the same people that beat a man in front of his family last week,same area
"I live in CSP and was a “victim” of this group too. There were around 20 of them in their late teens - early 20s and they were snowballing the passing by cars on Gold Hill common. I couldn’t believe what there were doing and stopped the car for a brief moment, thinking that they would be scared off and stop. My action actually created totally opposite effect and they started to snowball even more and very viciously. It showed their fearlessness and I am not at all surprised at what happened to this gentlemen.
I believe this is a total failure of the police, this group is a large group of youngsters, and also they did this in the broad daylight. There were many kids and parents sledging at the same time and place, and I am sure there are many, many people who know who the members of this group are !!!
Then I read the Nazi graffiti appeared in Chalfont St Peter. I am almost certain it is the work of the same group. This is a small village and am sure that majority of youngsters know who these vandals are.
My suggestion to the police is, please don’t wait until something more sinister happens in the village !!! Don’t let few youngsters terrorise us, go and get them - NOW !!!”
J B Blackett
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1:30pm Fri 5 Feb 10
DocD wrote:I think you are over-worrying, DocD
We need to be concerned about this. Typically the racist nature of this graffiti has been underplayed and no understanding of the fact that we have had far right activity in the County over the last few years. Think about why NF was sprayed rather than EDL or BNP. There have been parts of South Bucks where a NF rump cell have been operating around Iver Heath.
If we link this to an attack on an Asian taxi driver we can see a picture emerging:
http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/news/474
6236.Chalfont_St_Pet
er_youths_admit__vio
lent__taxi_driver_at
tack/
Ahead of this year's election we need to be vigilant and start taking racist violence seriously.
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The idiots who scrawled that graffiti as shown are probably the same scumbags who attacked davecsp are described just above.
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They are more than likely the same ill-educated louts that abused him as he says himself and also reported in the BFP paper.
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Every area seems to have its own gang (in this case about 20) of slimy yobs that only attack other people of any kind when they are in an out of control mob. And of course by their actions (the attacks , the secretive irrelevant Nazi scrawling) prove themselves to be obnoxious stinking cowards as well.
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They are probably at this very moment sniggering like pratts behind the school bike sheds about things they do.
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Poor old Chalfont St Peter, it doesn't deserve this sort of behaviour. Some local gits needs a good sorting out before it gets even more out of hand, don't you think ? And don't count on any support from any of 'the authorities'.
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Regards
678
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1:30pm Fri 5 Feb 10
DocD wrote:ha ha ha you lot are giving these yobs far too much credit, I am sure they have nothing to do with the NF, they are just trying to be offensive in a very middle-class, small village way. Look at the picture they have even sprayed "SL7" their post code, in homage to the Los Anglese black crip gangs which made me chuckle since they were from Chalfont St Peter lol. p.s Ihope they have computer access so they can read this.
We need to be concerned about this. Typically the racist nature of this graffiti has been underplayed and no understanding of the fact that we have had far right activity in the County over the last few years. Think about why NF was sprayed rather than EDL or BNP. There have been parts of South Bucks where a NF rump cell have been operating around Iver Heath. If we link this to an attack on an Asian taxi driver we can see a picture emerging: http://www.bucksfree press.co.uk/news/474 6236.Chalfont_St_Pet er_youths_admit__vio lent__taxi_driver_at tack/ Ahead of this year's election we need to be vigilant and start taking racist violence seriously.
aspen g
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1:34pm Fri 5 Feb 10
11:38am Fri 5 Feb 10
We need to be concerned about this. Typically the racist nature of this graffiti has been underplayed and no understanding of the fact that we have had far right activity in the County over the last few years. Think about why NF was sprayed rather than EDL or BNP. There have been parts of South Bucks where a NF rump cell have been operating around Iver Heath.
If we link this to an attack on an Asian taxi driver we can see a picture emerging:
http://www.bucksfree
press.co.uk/news/474
6236.Chalfont_St_Pet
er_youths_admit__vio
lent__taxi_driver_at
tack/
Ahead of this year's election we need to be vigilant and start taking racist violence seriously.
Agreed. These far right types are incredibly dangerous and they are indoctrinating children on social networking sites, and mass blogging on national paper websites with their ill informed, illogical view points.
J B Blackett
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1:46pm Fri 5 Feb 10
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You know I'm correct and History proves it.
aspen g
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1:59pm Fri 5 Feb 10
The Far Right want control of the streets - please google EDL and Casuals United who have been fighting in towns up and down the UK.
Far Right politics preaches hate. People with lower IQs are susceptible to the propaganda and lies that these low lifes peddle.
The results can be dangerous: Brixton bombings - people can end up with nails in their head.
I have never seen the Conservatives try to take control of the streets.
In the most politest way possible, please stop kidding yourself!
678
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2:14pm Fri 5 Feb 10
aspen g wrote:the same it true of the far left, least us not forget
Disagree Mr/Ms Blackett - the far right politics is far more dangerous than normal politics. The Far Right want control of the streets - please google EDL and Casuals United who have been fighting in towns up and down the UK. Far Right politics preaches hate. People with lower IQs are susceptible to the propaganda and lies that these low lifes peddle. The results can be dangerous: Brixton bombings - people can end up with nails in their head. I have never seen the Conservatives try to take control of the streets. In the most politest way possible, please stop kidding yourself!
aspen g
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2:28pm Fri 5 Feb 10
There is no Far Left group in this country who are trying to get people on the streets with a view to rioting.
In the last 30 years there has been no Far Left group that has nail bombed people on the basis that they are gay or black or encouraged others to do this.
I note that you aren't prepared to validate your arguments with fact which is typical of the Right Wing people - over reliance on hysteria and propaganda.
J B Blackett
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2:57pm Fri 5 Feb 10
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But History I would say appears to be on my side. I see no difference with the thought processes , philosophy or actions of Hitler , Stalin , Pol Pot , General Pinochet , Mousy Dung (I can't spell it) , Mugabe , post-liberation S Africa , various Somali and other assorted African governments, various previous East European leaders , Mussolini , Franco etc etc.
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They all set 'right against left ' or vice versa and then turned viciously against their people of their own country or race or tribe. There is not a sliver of difference in the end result - Death and Misery for ordinary people - caused by this imposed sometimes artificial Left / Right 'conflict'.
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It's either that or Religion in some distorted form is the excuse for oppression and repression.
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I am sorry aspen g , but you will never persuade me otherwise. I am sure I'll be one of the first to be put up against a wall - by the Left or the Right. I despise them all.
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To me there is no difference ; even the words used are similar and sound the same to me . And the same end result - divided peoples , who are more controllable by the power-hungry monsters (of whatever persuasion) that are in power.
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Potential and Actual Despots and Tyrants the lot of disgusting gang of them.
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Regards
J B Blackett
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3:05pm Fri 5 Feb 10
J B Blackett wrote:Sorry I meant pre-liberation S Africa. Apologies to Nelson M and Desmond TuTu if they get round to reading the BFP comments.
They are all despicable , without exception. That's a personal opinion , just like yours is.
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But History I would say appears to be on my side. I see no difference with the thought processes , philosophy or actions of Hitler , Stalin , Pol Pot , General Pinochet , Mousy Dung (I can't spell it) , Mugabe , post-liberation S Africa , various Somali and other assorted African governments, various previous East European leaders , Mussolini , Franco etc etc.
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They all set 'right against left ' or vice versa and then turned viciously against their people of their own country or race or tribe. There is not a sliver of difference in the end result - Death and Misery for ordinary people - caused by this imposed sometimes artificial Left / Right 'conflict'.
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It's either that or Religion in some distorted form is the excuse for oppression and repression.
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I am sorry aspen g , but you will never persuade me otherwise. I am sure I'll be one of the first to be put up against a wall - by the Left or the Right. I despise them all.
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To me there is no difference ; even the words used are similar and sound the same to me . And the same end result - divided peoples , who are more controllable by the power-hungry monsters (of whatever persuasion) that are in power.
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Potential and Actual Despots and Tyrants the lot of disgusting gang of them.
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Regards
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I usually miss the 'post'.
Regards
678
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3:17pm Fri 5 Feb 10
aspen g wrote:How about hunt saboteurs and the people who threten to blow up Huntington life Sciences and abortion clinics. How about the people who riot every mayday and smash up RBS and McDoanald I would argure there were just as dangerous and I am more worried about them than the phantom NF
Sorry 678 Marlow but that is nonsense. There is no Far Left group in this country who are trying to get people on the streets with a view to rioting. In the last 30 years there has been no Far Left group that has nail bombed people on the basis that they are gay or black or encouraged others to do this. I note that you aren't prepared to validate your arguments with fact which is typical of the Right Wing people - over reliance on hysteria and propaganda.
aspen g
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4:13pm Fri 5 Feb 10
Secondly the people who want to blow up Abortion clinics tend to be those with Right Wing views. The Left tend to be respectful of a womans right to choose!!!
There is nothing phantom about the NF or the BNP. Do you consider the Brixton Bombings to be a figment of my imagination? The nails inbedded in people pure fantasy?!
Also, if it is the 'phantom' NF - why are the powers that be saying that the next terror threat is likely to come from Far Right groups?
J B Blackett - I agree and disagree with you.
"They all set 'right against left ' or vice versa and then turned viciously against their people of their own country or race or tribe. There is not a sliver of difference in the end result - Death and Misery for ordinary people - caused by this imposed sometimes artificial Left / Right 'conflict'."
Completely agree,
However, out of the political parties in the UK in the present day - I believe that the biggest threat comes from the Right Wing parties such as the BNP, NF, EDL & all those Muslim extremist groups.
This threat comes in the form of pedalling hate against people purely for religious beliefs or the colour of their skin. You can say Left/Right divide etc - but at least the Cons, Labour and Lib Dems do not encourage hatred and violence on our streets in the same dispicable manner as these groups.
aspen g
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4:15pm Fri 5 Feb 10
" How about the people who riot every mayday and smash up RBS and McDoanald I would argure there were just as dangerous"
So are you trying to say that you would punish the smashing up of McDonalds once a year more harshly than someone who has killed and maimed lots of people?
You are off your head.
678
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4:20pm Fri 5 Feb 10
678
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4:21pm Fri 5 Feb 10
aspen g wrote:don't know where you got this idea from, nice try at twisting the arguement, if a little infantile.
678 " How about the people who riot every mayday and smash up RBS and McDoanald I would argure there were just as dangerous" So are you trying to say that you would punish the smashing up of McDonalds once a year more harshly than someone who has killed and maimed lots of people? You are off your head.
aspen g
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4:47pm Fri 5 Feb 10
Its not my fault you have made yourself look stupid - I have no control of the crap that you type!
678
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4:51pm Fri 5 Feb 10
aspen g wrote:yes more worried as its more likely to affect me, than the NF to start trying to bomb me! nice try "Disgusted of High Wycombe"
Not at all 678 - you said you were more worried about those attacking RBS and MacDonalds - its up there for you to see. Its not my fault you have made yourself look stupid - I have no control of the crap that you type!
aspen g
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5:01pm Fri 5 Feb 10
As long as its someone else's child that gets a nail embedded in their head then it doesn't concern you?
What a nice attitude you have.
David Copeland who killed three and injured 50 started off on petty crime and football hooliganism - so I'm afraid I'm not as quick to write off racist graffiti and whole heartedly support Doc Ds comments.
678
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5:07pm Fri 5 Feb 10
J B Blackett
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5:20pm Fri 5 Feb 10
This threat comes in the form of pedalling hate against people purely for religious beliefs or the colour of their skin. You can say Left/Right divide etc - but at least the Cons, Labour and Lib Dems do not encourage hatred and violence on our streets in the same dispicable manner as these groups.
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I think I understand your point of view from the left-hand side ( dexterphobic ?) - to which you are , I am wholeheartedly glad to say, you are entitled to express in written and spoken form.
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But in the regimes of the monsters I mentioned (not forgetting mass murderer Idi Amin) you and I would be arrested and executed without a trial just for saying or even thinking the things we mere mortals do.
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Left or Right or Religion - no difference. All evil self-obsessed thugs on whatever side with corrupt and perverted views of humanity.
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Your defence of the mainstream parties is also unsustainable as it is they who create the atmosphere and circumstances where these ill-intentioned extreme and toxic movements flourish and grow.
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It's called laissez-faire politics I believed. None of these groups (that includes also the ones you hate and all the ones I despise) are on the side of the common people.
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They all , without exception have their own agendas. The whole rotten mess needs to be swept away so we can start again. Long live democracy, which these rotten swine have stolen from us.
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Regards
Wendoverman
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5:36pm Fri 5 Feb 10
As for yobs, they have no real idea of politics, the people who smash up Macdonalds on May Day, the EDF and the violent animal rights 'terrorists' and the mindless drunken thugs most of us have witnessed on a daily basis are mainly the same folks...thickos looking for trouble safe in the knowledge that there are no sanctions as long as they they fall short of stabbing someone!
DocD
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5:49pm Fri 5 Feb 10
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J B Blackett
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6:27pm Fri 5 Feb 10
DocD wrote:Try to keep up to date. What's up , Doc. It's not the 70s (nearly 40 years ago)
In the words of Thomas Jefferson :'the Price of freedom is eternal vigilance'. Many of us grow up in the 70's and early 80's in this country and remember well the **** bashing and the graffiti that accompanied it.
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History does not repeat itself - that's always a red herring. History always starts from a different place every time so the outcome is also unique every time.
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I prefer Albert Einstein to Jefferson (oh no - not yet another quotable U/S politician) Albert said in a slightly different context " A sign of madness is to keep repeating and doing the same things in the hope that the outcome is different"
May I humbly suggest that's precisely what you are inferring. The NF (I sincerely hope) is dead and gone - good riddance. If you don't see that those idiotic badly scrawled symbols was done by moronic yobs from the Chalfonts, then you are urinating against the gale. Like an well-meaning apostle with a meaningless doom message
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AND we all may get trampled on by the danger coming from a quite unexpected direction because you are diverting people's attention from other threats to the stability of our society. Certainly not from these irrelevant, irresponsible, ignorant and pathetic time-wasters from St Peter.
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If you think right-wingers are rampant in the Chalfonts , I think you may be barking up the wrong sort of tree.
Elmo
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7:18pm Fri 5 Feb 10
DocD
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7:55pm Fri 5 Feb 10
I ain't scaremongering I am just asking you to open up your eyes. The graffiti is just the tip of the iceberg...
Mozez
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8:03pm Fri 5 Feb 10
How are the police responding to the crime? How has the impact upon the community been accessed?, given that the history of NF is now the fuel for fire for the EDL.
Were the local Neighbourhood action groups in partnership with the police informed of the graffiti or the intended actions? How will they manage its impact as members of the community?
How is the local council responding?
Where are the local 'concerned' politicians? how long has the graffiti been on view before any of us felt inclined to report it or stress its concerns?
Has it been on display long enough to become a sentence read by the younger children that play in the area?
If the village is as small as we suggest, then the chances are that our kids know or may know who the perpetrators are, so what we have we taught our children? Whats their and our responsibility to a civic society?
Is it fair to assume that the parents of these, have nurtured racists? it is not harmless fun? schools in the area and serving catchments do educate about the Holacaust and sole point being that we never forget, that in our moment of disposition the scale of intolerance is never curtailed..
J B Blackett
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9:25pm Fri 5 Feb 10
DocD wrote:Don't you dare lump me together with any politician ! That's a really nasty personal insult to me. Have I insulted you ? - I don't know you at all.
JB Blackett - wake up and smell the roses. I spend half my week in the East Midlands and the rest in Wyc/Bucks and visit family in London. This is a NATIONAL issue which has a local manifestation and our politicians and sadly people like yourself are in denial. EDL been been up and down this country over the last nine months and the BNP put up 3 candidates in local elections last year as well as getting 2 MEPS selected nationally. It's only the high UKIP vote locally that spilt the vote here and may well do so in the next general election. I've got access to the 2 BNP membership forms leaked in the last year and believe me there is plenty support all around Bucks indeed Nick Griffin and his party had a secret meeting in a parish hall just outside Risborough only a few years ago. These youths operate in a context and that context coming up to an election will be dominated by race, faith and immigration and each party will be outflanking each other to show how right-wing it is on this issue.
I ain't scaremongering I am just asking you to open up your eyes. The graffiti is just the tip of the iceberg...
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You haven't obviously read my other posts at all. Or you've not understood a single thing I wrote
And it's perhaps people like you that seem to over-interpret all sorts of things into stupid signs written on a comms box in the affluent leafy suburbs near the scene of well reported local yobo activity that seem to be trying to frighten ordinary folk with scare stories about impending Right Wing national take-overs.
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You must stop reading signs or tea-leaves and trying to unsettle people about fascism or whatever and the political future of our country. To what purpose ? Do work or wish to get a job for a right or left wing national newspaper that appear to do that sort of thing all the time ?
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Please do not tell me to wake up and smell whatever it is you are smelling (!). Stop scaremongering on the basis of a few stupid chalk marks by scrawled by yobs in Bucks - please for all normal person's sake.
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Stuff all politics and all politicians- they make me sick !
wayneo
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11:51pm Fri 5 Feb 10
678
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10:32am Sat 6 Feb 10
wayneo wrote:here, here
err, Polpot killed 6 million, Stalin killed 12 million, Mao killed 60 million, as for violence, look no further than the so called anti-facists, anti nazi-league who are more than able to match the right-wing groups for violence. Your arguments are as weak as you knowledge of history. These kids will be laughing their butts off at the reaction they have been getting.
Malc London
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9:29pm Sat 6 Feb 10
I think it's the poorer areas of Slough which have high immigration.
Mozez
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9:43am Sun 7 Feb 10
His sentiments resonate the very exact reason why a concern over the racist graffiti should be aired and be taken seriously by the police and local authority.
The xenophobic and latent racism that Malc has displayed in his post, to him may be harmless in his ideal world, yet it is this that gives rise to an environment around.... Malc and all of us that without a thought display or think as he,this environment ferments into a tolerance..a jest...it becomes so about us that we can no longer see any negative impact it has on anybody or the kids that thrive in, hence the graffiti, may be it is tolerated in the house hold, may be the parents are so unaware of the racism that they display that the are equally unaware of the youth that they create.
The many many atrocities, all started from one small act, one person thinking a certain way and behaving a certain way, being allowed to, to eventually others agreeing or tolerating the behaviour... If history is to teach us one thing it must be this, that we are all responsible for the world around us, no matter how far removed from it we think or believe we are..
Or lets really be bold and play to our minds eye, let our children spray racist graffiti, play areas well hey why not on the children themselves, come on dont stop there, oh look whilst in this lark of mind lets pick on that black or different looking child playing over there, or that person over there, what harm is there, lets spray that foreigner...lets hit him a few times...we''ll then go home and were are sure that our parents will commend us, they see the funny side, for they often talk of doing this and doing that, that these deserve this and that...Look mummy look Daddy..look what youve taught us to do....
One simple mindless act..is all it takes.
Malc London
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10:19am Sun 7 Feb 10
Slough DOES have high levels of immigration and this WILL lead to the indiginous population feeling they are being "over run" and becoming the ethnic minority which WILL lead to racist behaviour.
The problem lies with those who have denied or just been too stupid to realise the effect of mass immigration, which sadly includes the current Government.
I am not condoning the spraying of racist or any other form of graffiti, but ignoring the route cause of the problem won't make the problem go away.
J B Blackett
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1:23pm Sun 7 Feb 10
1. to obliterate the unsightly Nazi graffiti in a green park area.
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2. to body and face paint the moronic culprits when caught - as a mark of shame.
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3. to use as an oral spray for all the idiots or misguided scaremongering people who are claiming The Chalfonts is a hot-bed of facism and racism. I refer them to all the synagogues and churches that are now being defaced by evil noxious signs in recent days. Perhaps that is a more pressing , growing and worrying issue for them to concentrate on.
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Perhaps. And possibly racism and fascism comes from all sorts of directions, not just from grafitti scrawling yobs in CSP.
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Perhaps
aspen g
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12:04pm Mon 8 Feb 10
"And it's perhaps people like you that seem to over-interpret all sorts of things into stupid signs written on a comms box in the affluent leafy suburbs near the scene of well reported local yobo activity that seem to be trying to frighten ordinary folk with scare stories about impending Right Wing national take-overs."
Its not trying to frighten people... Right Wing support is growing in this country. Please google the English Defence League who have had numerous marches up and down the country. In Stoke - taxi drivers were forced to close for the night as the police could not guarantee their safety when these thugs were in town.
Knowing how the Right are working and campaigning at the moment - I will remain vigilant for 'Hitler Youth' and seek to oppose and highlight it whenever I can.
DocD - I fully understand where you are coming from.
Spray a bit of graffiti here and there, get drunk, start shouting abuse at people with a bit of a tan. Next thing you know some poor person is getting a kicking.
I obviously hope that J B Blackett is right, and that it is harmless graffiti which leads to nothing... However it concerns me - greatly.
J B Blackett
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2:19pm Mon 8 Feb 10
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I hate alarmist talk from anybody - Left , Right , Up the Middle and Religiose of whatever flavour. It does nobody any good except the perpetrators and spreaders of hatred and division.
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Some cretins wrap themselves in the Union Jack or other nationalist flags - others in the 'racism' flag. Two sides of the same coin , I tend to think - both violent and anti-social.
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Please note I distrust , despair of and sometimes depise (sort of) all of them. History proves none of them work for the good of ordinary folk.
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Do you think that's reasonable ? I'm still , in hope you may say, thinking that this particular crime has been carried out by ill-educated yobby cretins from CSP. Recent newspaper reports seem to support this scenario. Time will tell.
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In the meantime , please reserve your judgment until the evidence is clearer, not just a few pathetic scrawlings - no knee-jerk reactions , even if you are concerned. That does CSP folk no favours.
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I will wait, reasonably , for the authorities to get to the bottom of this (DNA , CCTV , witnesses , bragging at school, down the pub or at work etc). These types , in my opinion, are always too stupid to keep it to themselves.
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Regards
aspen g
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3:50pm Mon 8 Feb 10
"Some cretins wrap themselves in the Union Jack or other nationalist flags - others in the 'racism' flag. Two sides of the same coin , I tend to think - both violent and anti-social."
Nonsense! How many anti fascists have bombed people in the last 30 years? How many fascists have?
Do I think your being reasonable? Not really, I think your being blind to both fact and common sense.
I have no doubt that this graffiti was done by yobby cretins, and funnily enough it is the same yobby cretins that get drawn into right wing propaganda most people with half a brain cell can see straight through it.
As for 'reserving my judgement' - I'll infer from that that you want me to pipe down and be apathetic that CSP youths couldn't possibly be involved in the NF just because you have spoken!
Not a chance....
J B Blackett
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6:10pm Mon 8 Feb 10
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But not after the Left or Right or Religious ever get power here. That's the evil trio I will be fighting against .
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Please don't refer to me as an apologist - I could say you are also one and that sort of argument goes nowhere. I could say your reacting like Chicken Little when a piece of what he thought was a piece of sky fell on him ; spreading alarm and despondency because of some as yet unexplained incident.
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I could say the real problem is people who preach at and condemn other people about awful they are. That applies to the Right attacking the Left , The Left attacking the Right and the Religious Nutters attacking everybody. I think it's called sanctimoniousness.
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All in all it makes me sick whatever direction it's coming from. Who are these know-all ever-so-pious people to lecture others in how to run and live their lives and what to think ?
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To Hell with all of them , I say , while we are still allowed to say as such !
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In the meantime , I will still await more evidence , one way or the other. I am not a sociological Michael Fish predicting no political hurricane in the future ; I'm as watchful as the next , no better no worse.
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But I beg you as an obviously articulate and thoughtful person not to call 'Wolf !' at this incident. Your clarion voice may be needed in the future if and when significant social happenings occur. Not via some puerile activity by sad under-educated Tw*ts in a worthy but insignificant village in deepest Bucks.
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Regards
Dr Truth says...
9:19am Fri 5 Feb 10