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Residents like Buckinghamshire County Council's Buckinghamshire Times more than papers, boss says

Residents like council magazine more than papers, boss says Residents like council magazine more than papers, boss says

RESIDENTS like a controversial taxpayer funded council magazine more than their local paper, a boss said.

Buckinghamshire County Council deputy leader Councillor Bill Chapple said The Buckinghamshire Times provided ‘value for money’.

The magazine, which he said cost taxpayers £114,000 a year, angered many after proclaiming on its front page in mid December that gritters were poised to tackle icy weather (see link, bottom of story).

In the coming weeks Bucks was plunged into the worst winter for three decades and supplies had to be rationed amid accusations that roads were not gritted.

Pressed by a committee probing spending cuts, Cllr Chapple said: “They like it better than the local paper.”

A survey found 45 per cent of respondents liked the magazine, he said. It is delivered to all 200,000 homes in the county.

Critics accuse such magazines as ‘propaganda’ as they herald councils’ achievements only.

Cllr Chapple said: “I believe that The Buckinghamshire Times is good value for money. I think it is a very good way of getting out what is happening within this county.”

Branding the magazine ‘free’ he said bosses were reluctant to take on too much advertising as this could distract from the editorial content.

But Councillor Michael Brand said: “Why can’t you make that self financing?”

This would pay for two top staff members, he said. “I’m not sure that area of your portfolio couldn’t take a bigger hit,” Cllr Brand added.

And Councillor Peter Hardy, the chairman of the probe, said greater use of the council’s ‘excellent’ website could reduce the magazine’s costs.

The magazine is to be merged with the four district councils in Bucks, Cllr Chapple said, to save cash.

The communications department will also be cut from 21 to 16 with the post dedicated to the magazine shared between staff who take on other roles, he said.

The examination of the budget and medium term plan task and finish group will meet again today to discuss schools and social care cuts. Click the link below for a live blog from the meeting.

Comments(27)

DeepThinker says...
10:55am Thu 21 Jan 10

"Residents like Buckinghamshire County Council's Buckinghamshire Times more than papers, boss says"
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but overall Andrex is still the people's favourite.

michael healy says...
10:57am Thu 21 Jan 10

WHAT A TOTAL **** TAKE TO ALL US COUNCIL TAX PAYERS TO GET THIS MAGAZINE PUSHED THROUGH OUR LETTER BOXES AFTER THE COUNCIL FAILED TO GET A PROPER GRITTING SERVICE TO US IN THE SNOW AND ICY DAYS WE ALL HAD TO ENDURE!!!

WELL DONE!!! A BIG PAT ON YOUR BACKS, NOT!!!!!!!!!!

MC=2 says...
11:00am Thu 21 Jan 10

Which local paper is that, the BFP?

miccles says...
11:27am Thu 21 Jan 10

£114,000 a year, that could be better spent, specially as they are cost cutting, just think that money could have gone towards a better effort in gritting over the last few weeks, or go towards all the potholes they have to fill.

And this is what rubbish the council tax money goes to, is it any wonder they are in trouble.

45% of respondents liked the magazine, where was this poll taken, in the BCC canteen??

I bet those gritters in the picture still look the same today, brand spanking new and never been used.

What a load of ol fu***ng rubbish this is.

Red Fred says...
11:33am Thu 21 Jan 10

I actually agree with them. This magazine is much better reading than the bfp, but then again so is a soggy beermat or an old alder valley bus timetable circa 1978.

miccles says...
11:41am Thu 21 Jan 10

Red Fred wrote:
I actually agree with them. This magazine is much better reading than the bfp, but then again so is a soggy beermat or an old alder valley bus timetable circa 1978.
Those were the days, when i used to travel on Alder Valley, always mostly on time, clean.

Arriva please note.

towncryer says...
12:09pm Thu 21 Jan 10

What utter rubbish is Chapple spouting -- same propaganda as his magazine it would seem
Magazine is simply an ego trip opportunity for Shakespeare, Chapple and the other councillors!!

Get rid of the magazine and also the local District Magazines that councils produce

Funds are better spent on front line services !!!

muffintop says...
1:37pm Thu 21 Jan 10

I remember only reading this because I was snowed in and found the snow ploughs on the front amusing, after that it was recycled. The BFP is read by all my family and I can wrap my potoato peelings in it afterwards.
- what a waste of money.

Red Fred says...
1:49pm Thu 21 Jan 10

Absolutely. A total waste of 55p last time I bought one. And they had the nerve to charge me 35p for the midweek rag aswell. That still smarts I can tell you!!

aspen g says...
2:05pm Thu 21 Jan 10

More council propaganda...

Do they think we are stupid???!


I think High Wycombe needs an unofficial 'newspaper' or 'internet blog' - so the PEOPLE can report on what IS ACTUALLY GOING ON NOT WHAT IS FED TO US BY OUR PROPAGANDA HAPPY COUNCILLORS.

Grrrr

BFP Reader says...
2:36pm Thu 21 Jan 10

Why not put these people out on the roads when it's icy/snowy - there is so much hot air we'd surely have a couple of hills totally defrosted in no time.
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They are so at odds with what people observe and with people's common sense suggestions - missing the point and patronising us - they could save even more money by not holding elections and simply installing their own choice of councillors as it's evident they think there is only one brain cell between all the residents of bucks!
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They even believe "2 gritters good/4 gritters bad" down at the BCC Farm

Rosa Klebb says...
2:57pm Thu 21 Jan 10

It's not a magazine - it's like a regular report. It's biased, bland and only presents one side of things. And it certainly doesn't relay 'what is happening within this county.'
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I can tell you I don't read it.
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At a guess, the people who responded were those of a certain age with some time on their hands and the questions were framed in very specific language. e.g.'Do you like the fact the Buckinghamshire Times is free unlike local papers, Madam/Sir?'
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Let's see the questionnaire.

Plus ça change... says...
4:49pm Thu 21 Jan 10

Couldn't they get someone like BFreeP to publish a supplement for them occasionally to be distributed with a copy of the newspaper and also separately for their normal household run?

Wouldn't that save money?

I don't need glossy stuff to tell me what councils do.

WDC have got a decent website. People should try using it.

If people are solely reliant for their info on reading a mag, they are a bit behind the times.

trickerg says...
4:56pm Thu 21 Jan 10

'Pressed by a committee probing spending cuts, Cllr Chapple said: “They like it better than the local paper.” '

Is this a proven fact?

towncryer says...
5:25pm Thu 21 Jan 10

aspen g wrote:
More council propaganda... Do they think we are stupid???! I think High Wycombe needs an unofficial 'newspaper' or 'internet blog' - so the PEOPLE can report on what IS ACTUALLY GOING ON NOT WHAT IS FED TO US BY OUR PROPAGANDA HAPPY COUNCILLORS. Grrrr
There are a few local mags that tell it as it is -- Spotlight East Wycome is a great read --paid for by advertising , edited by local people and distributed by local people all on a free basis !!!
The district councillors even help to deliver it, ive seen then doing it!!

yog says...
5:42pm Thu 21 Jan 10

Conservatives are again living in cloud cuckoo land. The joke is wearing thin now.

Kania 2000 says...
5:57pm Thu 21 Jan 10

I bet this is just the tip of the waste iceberg.
Would anyone missthe Buckinghamshire Council Times!

demoness says...
8:01pm Thu 21 Jan 10

towncryer wrote:
aspen g wrote: More council propaganda... Do they think we are stupid???! I think High Wycombe needs an unofficial 'newspaper' or 'internet blog' - so the PEOPLE can report on what IS ACTUALLY GOING ON NOT WHAT IS FED TO US BY OUR PROPAGANDA HAPPY COUNCILLORS. Grrrr
There are a few local mags that tell it as it is -- Spotlight East Wycome is a great read --paid for by advertising , edited by local people and distributed by local people all on a free basis !!! The district councillors even help to deliver it, ive seen then doing it!!
Wendover news does the same and is free as well.
Not as glossy as the Bucks one of course, but infinitely more useful.

northern_monkey says...
10:34pm Thu 21 Jan 10

..."A survey found 45 per cent of respondents liked the magazine". What survey was this? The editor asked 9 of his mates? How many people were asked? By whom? What were they asked?

wayneo says...
11:01pm Thu 21 Jan 10

northern_monkey wrote:
..."A survey found 45 per cent of respondents liked the magazine". What survey was this? The editor asked 9 of his mates? How many people were asked? By whom? What were they asked?
I guess it's from the same breed as one of their consultations, where residents are in favour, it's a majority, where residents aren't in favour, the result is not proportional to the public at large.

George1 says...
11:09pm Thu 21 Jan 10

If 45% agree the majority 55% disagree, when will we get a councillor to get his sums correct.
That 45% were from the FEW who responded, the tens of thousands who like me dislike this load of bilge glance at it and think same old self back slapping. There are small groups who get some Council help which the council commends itself for in their publication, pretending that the Conservative controlled Bucks County Council are interested in people and doing a good job, THEY ARE NOT, they do not list their FAILURES which far outweigh anything they find fashionable.
Why do I get the impression that the only groups receiving council help are those where council members have a personal interest, too much back scratching, have they got fleas?

readerabc says...
10:05am Fri 22 Jan 10

£114,000?
what a waste of money

think of all the gitting, swiming pools and athletics tracks this could pay for!

SW: vote-once

aspen g says...
11:48am Fri 22 Jan 10

towncryer, HIgh Wycombe town says...
5:25pm Thu 21 Jan 10

aspen g wrote:
More council propaganda... Do they think we are stupid???! I think High Wycombe needs an unofficial 'newspaper' or 'internet blog' - so the PEOPLE can report on what IS ACTUALLY GOING ON NOT WHAT IS FED TO US BY OUR PROPAGANDA HAPPY COUNCILLORS. Grrrr
There are a few local mags that tell it as it is -- Spotlight East Wycome is a great read --paid for by advertising , edited by local people and distributed by local people all on a free basis !!!
The district councillors even help to deliver it, ive seen then doing it!!

Thx - I will look out for it. I personally find the BFP bloggers more informative than the BFP reporters :)

Red Fred says...
12:05pm Fri 22 Jan 10

"Thx - I will look out for it. I personally find the BFP bloggers more informative than the BFP reporters :)"

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And some, are one and the same!

Steve Totteridge Hill says...
4:56pm Fri 22 Jan 10

It's a fix!

aspen g says...
3:15pm Mon 25 Jan 10

Lol you mean to tell me someone receives a salary for Ivors blog?!?!

Now that really is money for old rope.

I need to get me a job at the BFP where I can be xenophobic and irrationally concerned with hedgehogs and the like :)

bumble007 says...
3:24pm Tue 9 Feb 10

Rubbish. I have never met anyone who has thought this magazine is good-rather that it is an ill informed waste of money once again. This magazine is an embarrassment to the council as it so poorly reflects life in the county.

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