Lloyd Doyley and Mark Yeates state there's no cliques in Watford dressing room

Picture: Simon Jacob

Picture: Simon Jacob

First published in Latest Sport This Is Local London: Photograph of the Author by , Deputy Group Sports Editor

Bringing in 16 new signings, the majority of which are foreign imports, was always going to cause problems but Watford’s longest-serving player and another of the side’s ever present players this season insist the dressing room has not become divided as a result of the huge transition.

Watford’s togetherness and team spirit is one of the primary reasons they have remained a mid-table Championship club in recent years, despite having one of the smallest budgets in the division.

Malky Mackay and Sean Dyche both focused on creating unity in the dressing room and tried to ensure the whole squad were ‘pulling in the same direction’.

A combination of financial problems and personal choices ensured Watford had a smaller collection of experienced professionals compared to the majority of other clubs, with the Hornets relying on younger players more than most; albeit to a lesser extent last season.

This summer’s takeover by the Pozzos has seen the direction of the club drastically change and it is unlikely to ever be the same again.

In recent years, the Hornets have named ten or 11 players in a match-day squad of 18 who spent time with the club’s academy; it is fair to say those days are unlikely to be repeated, especially after the decision to downgrade the academy to category three status.

The Pozzos’ extensive scouting network and large pool of players mean Watford will never be short of loan players from every corner of the world, and so far there have been 12 new arrivals from Udinese and Granada.

There have been murmurs of possible discontent coming out of the club and that was always likely considering the complete overhaul of how the Championship outfit is being run, both at the training ground and the offices.

Injuries and fitness concerns mean we have only seen four or five of the summer signings at length but if they all show the same application as the likes of Daniel Pudil and Almen Abdi, then the Hornets could mount a play-off challenge as hoped.

One of the main problems for Gianfranco Zola will be keeping his large squad happy, at least until more players are moved on.

The Italian has admitted it is a concern but this week has seen another three players leave the club on loan and more are sure to follow.

But with 16 new signings, ten of whom are from the same club, has the previously close-knit dressing room become split?

“No, it does not bother us,” Lloyd Doyley insisted. “It takes time because a lot of people have come from Italian and Spanish football, which is different to the Championship.

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“But the ones that have been playing have been doing really well. A team takes time and that’s what we are working on.”

Mark Yeates has been part of a central midfield trio which has started every league game this season and while he accepts the new arrivals generally do spend more time with each other, the Irishman insists it is not an issue.

Yeates said: “Obviously these lads have been at Udinese together so they are friends and you can’t call it clique because they all know each other in the same way the English and Irish lads do; we all knock about together.

“So there are no cliques in the dressing room and as a footballer, you know what you have to do on the pitch, and to be fair, they have all settled in well.

“They are all good characters and the more time we spend together, it will only benefit the group. Games bring players together and if you are winning games then it makes it that much better.”

Zola has previously admitted the large squad and unusually high number of signings is not ideal but Yeates hopes things will improve with each week that passes.

Yeates said: “It will take them [the deadline day signings] time to settle in and they are all young boys to be fair so they have to get used to the mentality over here.

“But they are all talented lads – they wouldn’t have been sent over here if they weren’t – so I am sure with time that they will have time on the pitch to show people what they are capable of.

“We are doing all we can to help them settle in. There has been a lot of change and everyone is trying to go with it at the moment.

“Things will settle down more in the next few weeks. When the games come, they bring everyone closer together. So in a few weeks it should be more positive for everyone.”

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8:34am Mon 24 Sep 12

borohorn says...

You find me a club without cliques amongst players. It's a way of life. It's zolas job to ensure it doesn't affect the matchday squad.
You find me a club without cliques amongst players. It's a way of life. It's zolas job to ensure it doesn't affect the matchday squad. borohorn
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9:54am Mon 24 Sep 12

harrowhornet says...

40+ players . 25+ scolars and young pros. (no reserve fixtures-no U21's league).Far too many players to keep happy .

Now, so much young talent in the Academy that cant possibly come through to the 1st team as the pozzo's totally discard and down grade it after so much hard work over recent years.....its a crime.

Well, lets hope the new intakes get us promoted.....hmmmm.
40+ players . 25+ scolars and young pros. (no reserve fixtures-no U21's league).Far too many players to keep happy . Now, so much young talent in the Academy that cant possibly come through to the 1st team as the pozzo's totally discard and down grade it after so much hard work over recent years.....its a crime. Well, lets hope the new intakes get us promoted.....hmmmm. harrowhornet
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10:26am Mon 24 Sep 12

Hornet23 says...

harrowhornet wrote:
40+ players . 25+ scolars and young pros. (no reserve fixtures-no U21's league).Far too many players to keep happy .

Now, so much young talent in the Academy that cant possibly come through to the 1st team as the pozzo's totally discard and down grade it after so much hard work over recent years.....its a crime.

Well, lets hope the new intakes get us promoted.....hmmmm.
Not a morning person are you?
[quote][p][bold]harrowhornet[/bold] wrote: 40+ players . 25+ scolars and young pros. (no reserve fixtures-no U21's league).Far too many players to keep happy . Now, so much young talent in the Academy that cant possibly come through to the 1st team as the pozzo's totally discard and down grade it after so much hard work over recent years.....its a crime. Well, lets hope the new intakes get us promoted.....hmmmm.[/p][/quote]Not a morning person are you? Hornet23
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10:34am Mon 24 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

harrowhornet wrote:
40+ players . 25+ scolars and young pros. (no reserve fixtures-no U21's league).Far too many players to keep happy .

Now, so much young talent in the Academy that cant possibly come through to the 1st team as the pozzo's totally discard and down grade it after so much hard work over recent years.....its a crime.

Well, lets hope the new intakes get us promoted.....hmmmm.
Well, make your mind up harrow. Is it discarded or down-graded? Think before you post. You're making this up as you go.
[quote][p][bold]harrowhornet[/bold] wrote: 40+ players . 25+ scolars and young pros. (no reserve fixtures-no U21's league).Far too many players to keep happy . Now, so much young talent in the Academy that cant possibly come through to the 1st team as the pozzo's totally discard and down grade it after so much hard work over recent years.....its a crime. Well, lets hope the new intakes get us promoted.....hmmmm.[/p][/quote]Well, make your mind up harrow. Is it discarded or down-graded? Think before you post. You're making this up as you go. SAHornet
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10:39am Mon 24 Sep 12

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...

Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola".
Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala"
Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!"
Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo"
"
Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor"
Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?"
etc etc
No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!!
Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola". Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala" Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!" Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo" " Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor" Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?" etc etc No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!! Only 2 Ross Jenkins
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11:40am Mon 24 Sep 12

a1derek says...

I don't think you'd need to ask young Murray that question twice!
I don't think you'd need to ask young Murray that question twice! a1derek
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12:55pm Mon 24 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola".
Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala"
Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!"
Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo"
"
Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor"
Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?"
etc etc
No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!!
What a long winded post to say precisely what your final para says. By the way, who or what is "Nylon"
[quote][p][bold]Only 2 Ross Jenkins[/bold] wrote: Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola". Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala" Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!" Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo" " Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor" Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?" etc etc No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!![/p][/quote]What a long winded post to say precisely what your final para says. By the way, who or what is "Nylon" SAHornet
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1:01pm Mon 24 Sep 12

jasonwatford says...

We have already nicknamed neuton.....issac..fo
r obvious reasons.
We have already nicknamed neuton.....issac..fo r obvious reasons. jasonwatford
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1:13pm Mon 24 Sep 12

buckler says...

Sure helps if you like the Godfather and Pasta though!
Sure helps if you like the Godfather and Pasta though! buckler
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1:36pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...

SAHornet wrote:
Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote: Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola". Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala" Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!" Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo" " Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor" Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?" etc etc No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!!
What a long winded post to say precisely what your final para says. By the way, who or what is "Nylon"
Oh, do forgive me. I am so sorry my post didn't meet your full approval. Are there any other rules you'd like us to adhere to?
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Only 2 Ross Jenkins[/bold] wrote: Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola". Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala" Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!" Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo" " Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor" Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?" etc etc No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!![/p][/quote]What a long winded post to say precisely what your final para says. By the way, who or what is "Nylon"[/p][/quote]Oh, do forgive me. I am so sorry my post didn't meet your full approval. Are there any other rules you'd like us to adhere to? Only 2 Ross Jenkins
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1:45pm Mon 24 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Well Chelsea haven't done half bad with foreigners from all around the world not to mention the two Mancy clubs, Wigan....oh but this is Watford and I nearly forgot we don't do it that way, we don't like our football on the ground, we don't like not having the constant threat of admin etc etc.
By the way Nylon is a synthetic material used in the making of garments and other stuff. Nyron, though similar to Nylon but you replace the R with an L. Nyron, is not good for making garments or other stuff, so in the cloth cutting room is generally considered as useless. That view changes when on the field of play where Nyron, is used for defensive prowess and set piece where Nylon, is not very good for footballing roles other than the production of replica Shirts made in Taiwan.
Hope this helps you out SAH!
Well Chelsea haven't done half bad with foreigners from all around the world not to mention the two Mancy clubs, Wigan....oh but this is Watford and I nearly forgot we don't do it that way, we don't like our football on the ground, we don't like not having the constant threat of admin etc etc. By the way Nylon is a synthetic material used in the making of garments and other stuff. Nyron, though similar to Nylon but you replace the R with an L. Nyron, is not good for making garments or other stuff, so in the cloth cutting room is generally considered as useless. That view changes when on the field of play where Nyron, is used for defensive prowess and set piece where Nylon, is not very good for footballing roles other than the production of replica Shirts made in Taiwan. Hope this helps you out SAH! lutondown
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2:07pm Mon 24 Sep 12

MJ1 says...

There's a good report in yesterday's Observer in which Zola is honest about the difficulties in managing such a large international squad and avoiding mutiny. Seems they train in three groups. http://www.guardian.
co.uk/football/2012/
sep/22/watford-brist
ol-city-championship
There's a good report in yesterday's Observer in which Zola is honest about the difficulties in managing such a large international squad and avoiding mutiny. Seems they train in three groups. http://www.guardian. co.uk/football/2012/ sep/22/watford-brist ol-city-championship MJ1
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2:15pm Mon 24 Sep 12

lutondown says...

MJ1 wrote:
There's a good report in yesterday's Observer in which Zola is honest about the difficulties in managing such a large international squad and avoiding mutiny. Seems they train in three groups. http://www.guardian.

co.uk/football/2012/

sep/22/watford-brist

ol-city-championship
Nah, if its the Guardian it will only be left wing lies. I'll pass on that thanks
[quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: There's a good report in yesterday's Observer in which Zola is honest about the difficulties in managing such a large international squad and avoiding mutiny. Seems they train in three groups. http://www.guardian. co.uk/football/2012/ sep/22/watford-brist ol-city-championship[/p][/quote]Nah, if its the Guardian it will only be left wing lies. I'll pass on that thanks lutondown
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2:43pm Mon 24 Sep 12

YellowandProud says...

First time on here, it seems that there are a few people who spend their time scrolling through to look at who they can abuse for having an opinion which is strange on a forum where we clearly all want the she thing success for the hornets. Interesting point from Lutondown about Chelsea not having done half bad with a team of foreigners, that is indeed very true, the problem is because they are a team of foreigners the cost of success has gone through the roof and many of my friends in west london who are chelsea fans can now only afford to watch games on TV. Lets hope we don't end up in the same boat, the new regime has already indicated that our tickets prices are way to low...the football on the pitch on saturday was a vast improvement on what we have been watching, but running a club like ours is a fine balancing act, we need competitive pricing to attract new fans and keep the existing fan base.
First time on here, it seems that there are a few people who spend their time scrolling through to look at who they can abuse for having an opinion which is strange on a forum where we clearly all want the she thing success for the hornets. Interesting point from Lutondown about Chelsea not having done half bad with a team of foreigners, that is indeed very true, the problem is because they are a team of foreigners the cost of success has gone through the roof and many of my friends in west london who are chelsea fans can now only afford to watch games on TV. Lets hope we don't end up in the same boat, the new regime has already indicated that our tickets prices are way to low...the football on the pitch on saturday was a vast improvement on what we have been watching, but running a club like ours is a fine balancing act, we need competitive pricing to attract new fans and keep the existing fan base. YellowandProud
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3:15pm Mon 24 Sep 12

lutondown says...

YellowandProud wrote:
First time on here, it seems that there are a few people who spend their time scrolling through to look at who they can abuse for having an opinion which is strange on a forum where we clearly all want the she thing success for the hornets. Interesting point from Lutondown about Chelsea not having done half bad with a team of foreigners, that is indeed very true, the problem is because they are a team of foreigners the cost of success has gone through the roof and many of my friends in west london who are chelsea fans can now only afford to watch games on TV. Lets hope we don't end up in the same boat, the new regime has already indicated that our tickets prices are way to low...the football on the pitch on saturday was a vast improvement on what we have been watching, but running a club like ours is a fine balancing act, we need competitive pricing to attract new fans and keep the existing fan base.
Jesus man this is tame by comparison to other threads! And by the way, don't take it too seriously like some or you'll go potty!
[quote][p][bold]YellowandProud[/bold] wrote: First time on here, it seems that there are a few people who spend their time scrolling through to look at who they can abuse for having an opinion which is strange on a forum where we clearly all want the she thing success for the hornets. Interesting point from Lutondown about Chelsea not having done half bad with a team of foreigners, that is indeed very true, the problem is because they are a team of foreigners the cost of success has gone through the roof and many of my friends in west london who are chelsea fans can now only afford to watch games on TV. Lets hope we don't end up in the same boat, the new regime has already indicated that our tickets prices are way to low...the football on the pitch on saturday was a vast improvement on what we have been watching, but running a club like ours is a fine balancing act, we need competitive pricing to attract new fans and keep the existing fan base.[/p][/quote]Jesus man this is tame by comparison to other threads! And by the way, don't take it too seriously like some or you'll go potty! lutondown
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3:38pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Letsalldothecongaforbrittassombalonga says...

Good luck to Troy I say. If he plays like that every game of the season he is welcome in my team. All for the greater good!
Was at the game on saturday and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was exciting and there was no small amount of good football played (mainly by us!)
It was just a real shame that we couldn't even get 12,000. I noticed Palace and Millwall both had better attendances than us, not good at all!
Good luck to Troy I say. If he plays like that every game of the season he is welcome in my team. All for the greater good! Was at the game on saturday and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was exciting and there was no small amount of good football played (mainly by us!) It was just a real shame that we couldn't even get 12,000. I noticed Palace and Millwall both had better attendances than us, not good at all! Letsalldothecongaforbrittassombalonga
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3:54pm Mon 24 Sep 12

lutondown says...

YellowandProud wrote:
lutondown wrote:
YellowandProud wrote:
First time on here, it seems that there are a few people who spend their time scrolling through to look at who they can abuse for having an opinion which is strange on a forum where we clearly all want the she thing success for the hornets. Interesting point from Lutondown about Chelsea not having done half bad with a team of foreigners, that is indeed very true, the problem is because they are a team of foreigners the cost of success has gone through the roof and many of my friends in west london who are chelsea fans can now only afford to watch games on TV. Lets hope we don't end up in the same boat, the new regime has already indicated that our tickets prices are way to low...the football on the pitch on saturday was a vast improvement on what we have been watching, but running a club like ours is a fine balancing act, we need competitive pricing to attract new fans and keep the existing fan base.
Jesus man this is tame by comparison to other threads! And by the way, don't take it too seriously like some or you'll go potty!
Don't take anything to seriously, life is to short. Was wondering what the SA in SA Hornet stands for as he clearly has a dose of small man syndrome, is it Short Arse...
No it's for South Africa where he lives. Totally good bloke actually and a big supporter of what GFZ is trying to achieve.
There's a vein of negativity towards the Pozzos, but I for one much prefer having a future than the abyss that awaited with Bas and co.
Whatever your view, you'll find someone who disagrees!
[quote][p][bold]YellowandProud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YellowandProud[/bold] wrote: First time on here, it seems that there are a few people who spend their time scrolling through to look at who they can abuse for having an opinion which is strange on a forum where we clearly all want the she thing success for the hornets. Interesting point from Lutondown about Chelsea not having done half bad with a team of foreigners, that is indeed very true, the problem is because they are a team of foreigners the cost of success has gone through the roof and many of my friends in west london who are chelsea fans can now only afford to watch games on TV. Lets hope we don't end up in the same boat, the new regime has already indicated that our tickets prices are way to low...the football on the pitch on saturday was a vast improvement on what we have been watching, but running a club like ours is a fine balancing act, we need competitive pricing to attract new fans and keep the existing fan base.[/p][/quote]Jesus man this is tame by comparison to other threads! And by the way, don't take it too seriously like some or you'll go potty![/p][/quote]Don't take anything to seriously, life is to short. Was wondering what the SA in SA Hornet stands for as he clearly has a dose of small man syndrome, is it Short Arse...[/p][/quote]No it's for South Africa where he lives. Totally good bloke actually and a big supporter of what GFZ is trying to achieve. There's a vein of negativity towards the Pozzos, but I for one much prefer having a future than the abyss that awaited with Bas and co. Whatever your view, you'll find someone who disagrees! lutondown
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4:12pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Travelling Hornet says...

If Kilkenny had scored in injury time because of Yeates mistake,there would of been two distinct cliques in the dressing room , Dean and the rest of the players!
If Kilkenny had scored in injury time because of Yeates mistake,there would of been two distinct cliques in the dressing room , Dean and the rest of the players! Travelling Hornet
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6:00pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Casterbridge says...

jasonwatford wrote:
We have already nicknamed neuton.....issac..fo

r obvious reasons.
And GZ Gorgon?
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: We have already nicknamed neuton.....issac..fo r obvious reasons.[/p][/quote]And GZ Gorgon? Casterbridge
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6:26pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Hampshire hornet says...

Travelling Hornet wrote:
If Kilkenny had scored in injury time because of Yeates mistake,there would of been two distinct cliques in the dressing room , Dean and the rest of the players!
ooops .. we get your point though
[quote][p][bold]Travelling Hornet[/bold] wrote: If Kilkenny had scored in injury time because of Yeates mistake,there would of been two distinct cliques in the dressing room , Dean and the rest of the players![/p][/quote]ooops .. we get your point though Hampshire hornet
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6:32pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Goldenboy1960 says...

lutondown wrote:
MJ1 wrote:
There's a good report in yesterday's Observer in which Zola is honest about the difficulties in managing such a large international squad and avoiding mutiny. Seems they train in three groups. http://www.guardian.


co.uk/football/2012/


sep/22/watford-brist


ol-city-championship
Nah, if its the Guardian it will only be left wing lies. I'll pass on that thanks
And there is no Right wing lies.... your aving a larf
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: There's a good report in yesterday's Observer in which Zola is honest about the difficulties in managing such a large international squad and avoiding mutiny. Seems they train in three groups. http://www.guardian. co.uk/football/2012/ sep/22/watford-brist ol-city-championship[/p][/quote]Nah, if its the Guardian it will only be left wing lies. I'll pass on that thanks[/p][/quote]And there is no Right wing lies.... your aving a larf Goldenboy1960
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6:33pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola".
Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala"
Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!"
Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo"
"
Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor"
Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?"
etc etc
No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!!
Football is just like Sex, everyone knows where the goal is, regardless of which language they speak
[quote][p][bold]Only 2 Ross Jenkins[/bold] wrote: Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola". Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala" Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!" Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo" " Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor" Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?" etc etc No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!![/p][/quote]Football is just like Sex, everyone knows where the goal is, regardless of which language they speak Holly68
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6:36pm Mon 24 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

lutondown wrote:
Well Chelsea haven't done half bad with foreigners from all around the world not to mention the two Mancy clubs, Wigan....oh but this is Watford and I nearly forgot we don't do it that way, we don't like our football on the ground, we don't like not having the constant threat of admin etc etc.
By the way Nylon is a synthetic material used in the making of garments and other stuff. Nyron, though similar to Nylon but you replace the R with an L. Nyron, is not good for making garments or other stuff, so in the cloth cutting room is generally considered as useless. That view changes when on the field of play where Nyron, is used for defensive prowess and set piece where Nylon, is not very good for footballing roles other than the production of replica Shirts made in Taiwan.
Hope this helps you out SAH!
Hahaha, you crease me up LD....oh no, that's Nylon, innit? Crease me up...get it? See, it's a play on words....crease as in, to crease a material...nylon being a material....get it now? Oh, what a coupla clowns we are. Should be on stage together, eh? Talking about clowns, doesn't look like good old Tractor Scotty's doing so good at Ipshite does it? By the way, I think I might have slightly offended old Ross Jenkins. Any suggestions on how I might make amends, at all, at all, at all?
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Well Chelsea haven't done half bad with foreigners from all around the world not to mention the two Mancy clubs, Wigan....oh but this is Watford and I nearly forgot we don't do it that way, we don't like our football on the ground, we don't like not having the constant threat of admin etc etc. By the way Nylon is a synthetic material used in the making of garments and other stuff. Nyron, though similar to Nylon but you replace the R with an L. Nyron, is not good for making garments or other stuff, so in the cloth cutting room is generally considered as useless. That view changes when on the field of play where Nyron, is used for defensive prowess and set piece where Nylon, is not very good for footballing roles other than the production of replica Shirts made in Taiwan. Hope this helps you out SAH![/p][/quote]Hahaha, you crease me up LD....oh no, that's Nylon, innit? Crease me up...get it? See, it's a play on words....crease as in, to crease a material...nylon being a material....get it now? Oh, what a coupla clowns we are. Should be on stage together, eh? Talking about clowns, doesn't look like good old Tractor Scotty's doing so good at Ipshite does it? By the way, I think I might have slightly offended old Ross Jenkins. Any suggestions on how I might make amends, at all, at all, at all? SAHornet
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6:47pm Mon 24 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

lutondown wrote:
YellowandProud wrote:
lutondown wrote:
YellowandProud wrote:
First time on here, it seems that there are a few people who spend their time scrolling through to look at who they can abuse for having an opinion which is strange on a forum where we clearly all want the she thing success for the hornets. Interesting point from Lutondown about Chelsea not having done half bad with a team of foreigners, that is indeed very true, the problem is because they are a team of foreigners the cost of success has gone through the roof and many of my friends in west london who are chelsea fans can now only afford to watch games on TV. Lets hope we don't end up in the same boat, the new regime has already indicated that our tickets prices are way to low...the football on the pitch on saturday was a vast improvement on what we have been watching, but running a club like ours is a fine balancing act, we need competitive pricing to attract new fans and keep the existing fan base.
Jesus man this is tame by comparison to other threads! And by the way, don't take it too seriously like some or you'll go potty!
Don't take anything to seriously, life is to short. Was wondering what the SA in SA Hornet stands for as he clearly has a dose of small man syndrome, is it Short Arse...
No it's for South Africa where he lives. Totally good bloke actually and a big supporter of what GFZ is trying to achieve.
There's a vein of negativity towards the Pozzos, but I for one much prefer having a future than the abyss that awaited with Bas and co.
Whatever your view, you'll find someone who disagrees!
Don't know what I've done to upset you Y&P but if you have summat to say at least have the balls to say it to me direct next time, ok? Now that we've got that sorted, good evening and welcome to the forum. As LD says, it's good banter as long as you don't get too bent out of shape over it. By the way, I've seen a lot of short arse syndrome in my time and don't recognize it in myself, especially as I stand 6'1 " and weigh in at 105kgs
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YellowandProud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YellowandProud[/bold] wrote: First time on here, it seems that there are a few people who spend their time scrolling through to look at who they can abuse for having an opinion which is strange on a forum where we clearly all want the she thing success for the hornets. Interesting point from Lutondown about Chelsea not having done half bad with a team of foreigners, that is indeed very true, the problem is because they are a team of foreigners the cost of success has gone through the roof and many of my friends in west london who are chelsea fans can now only afford to watch games on TV. Lets hope we don't end up in the same boat, the new regime has already indicated that our tickets prices are way to low...the football on the pitch on saturday was a vast improvement on what we have been watching, but running a club like ours is a fine balancing act, we need competitive pricing to attract new fans and keep the existing fan base.[/p][/quote]Jesus man this is tame by comparison to other threads! And by the way, don't take it too seriously like some or you'll go potty![/p][/quote]Don't take anything to seriously, life is to short. Was wondering what the SA in SA Hornet stands for as he clearly has a dose of small man syndrome, is it Short Arse...[/p][/quote]No it's for South Africa where he lives. Totally good bloke actually and a big supporter of what GFZ is trying to achieve. There's a vein of negativity towards the Pozzos, but I for one much prefer having a future than the abyss that awaited with Bas and co. Whatever your view, you'll find someone who disagrees![/p][/quote]Don't know what I've done to upset you Y&P but if you have summat to say at least have the balls to say it to me direct next time, ok? Now that we've got that sorted, good evening and welcome to the forum. As LD says, it's good banter as long as you don't get too bent out of shape over it. By the way, I've seen a lot of short arse syndrome in my time and don't recognize it in myself, especially as I stand 6'1 " and weigh in at 105kgs SAHornet
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7:12pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...

Holly68 wrote:
Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote: Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola". Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala" Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!" Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo" " Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor" Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?" etc etc No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!!
Football is just like Sex, everyone knows where the goal is, regardless of which language they speak
Well, the players still need to communicate effectively. A team without adequate communication is going to struggle, especially at the back - how Bristol didn't score 4 or 5 only they will know and I am sure the communication was a factor. We should have scored at least 5 too incidentally, but can't blame the communcation on that.
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SAHornet, I just come on to make a comment and provide a viewpoint. I don't expect everyone to agree. However there's no need to be rude, I am sure you would at least agree with that.
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Only 2 Ross Jenkins[/bold] wrote: Almunia to Cassetti; "Mi bola". Cassetti to Nylon; "La Pala" Nylon to Neuton; "pick him up, man!" Neuton to Nylon: "Eu nao entendo" " Pudil to Yeates: "udělat nějaký prostor" Yeates to Murray: "To be sure, I can;t understand a word dey are saying, do ya fancy a pint of Guinness?" etc etc No cliques perhaps, but we can't expect the team to understand each other with no fewer than 6 different native languages in the starting line up on saturday. Crash course in English football terminology needed now please!![/p][/quote]Football is just like Sex, everyone knows where the goal is, regardless of which language they speak[/p][/quote]Well, the players still need to communicate effectively. A team without adequate communication is going to struggle, especially at the back - how Bristol didn't score 4 or 5 only they will know and I am sure the communication was a factor. We should have scored at least 5 too incidentally, but can't blame the communcation on that. - SAHornet, I just come on to make a comment and provide a viewpoint. I don't expect everyone to agree. However there's no need to be rude, I am sure you would at least agree with that. Only 2 Ross Jenkins
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7:18pm Mon 24 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

Sorry RJ, didn't expect you take my comment quite so seriously. You must be quite sensitive. I'll be more careful next time.
Sorry RJ, didn't expect you take my comment quite so seriously. You must be quite sensitive. I'll be more careful next time. SAHornet
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8:14pm Mon 24 Sep 12

buckler says...

Says what he wants , that SA he says what he wants!
Says what he wants , that SA he says what he wants! buckler
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8:21pm Mon 24 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

buckler wrote:
Says what he wants , that SA he says what he wants!
Shhhh Buck, I don't want to upset him again :-)
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Says what he wants , that SA he says what he wants![/p][/quote]Shhhh Buck, I don't want to upset him again :-) SAHornet
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8:24pm Mon 24 Sep 12

lutondown says...

SAHornet wrote:
buckler wrote:
Says what he wants , that SA he says what he wants!
Shhhh Buck, I don't want to upset him again :-)
Man up SAH, don't try appeasing people, Neville Chamberlain did that and look what happened there! The bliddy Girmans come and bombed our chip shops.
Sending you some snicker bars, to help increase your testosterone levels!
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Says what he wants , that SA he says what he wants![/p][/quote]Shhhh Buck, I don't want to upset him again :-)[/p][/quote]Man up SAH, don't try appeasing people, Neville Chamberlain did that and look what happened there! The bliddy Girmans come and bombed our chip shops. Sending you some snicker bars, to help increase your testosterone levels! lutondown
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9:38pm Mon 24 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

lutondown wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
buckler wrote:
Says what he wants , that SA he says what he wants!
Shhhh Buck, I don't want to upset him again :-)
Man up SAH, don't try appeasing people, Neville Chamberlain did that and look what happened there! The bliddy Girmans come and bombed our chip shops.
Sending you some snicker bars, to help increase your testosterone levels!
....and me Granny and her budgie Georgie. No heart them Girmins !
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Says what he wants , that SA he says what he wants![/p][/quote]Shhhh Buck, I don't want to upset him again :-)[/p][/quote]Man up SAH, don't try appeasing people, Neville Chamberlain did that and look what happened there! The bliddy Girmans come and bombed our chip shops. Sending you some snicker bars, to help increase your testosterone levels![/p][/quote]....and me Granny and her budgie Georgie. No heart them Girmins ! SAHornet
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11:46pm Mon 24 Sep 12

D.unstable says...

lutondown wrote:
Well Chelsea haven't done half bad with foreigners from all around the world not to mention the two Mancy clubs, Wigan....oh but this is Watford and I nearly forgot we don't do it that way, we don't like our football on the ground, we don't like not having the constant threat of admin etc etc.
By the way Nylon is a synthetic material used in the making of garments and other stuff. Nyron, though similar to Nylon but you replace the R with an L. Nyron, is not good for making garments or other stuff, so in the cloth cutting room is generally considered as useless. That view changes when on the field of play where Nyron, is used for defensive prowess and set piece where Nylon, is not very good for footballing roles other than the production of replica Shirts made in Taiwan.
Hope this helps you out SAH!
Made me larf!!!
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Well Chelsea haven't done half bad with foreigners from all around the world not to mention the two Mancy clubs, Wigan....oh but this is Watford and I nearly forgot we don't do it that way, we don't like our football on the ground, we don't like not having the constant threat of admin etc etc. By the way Nylon is a synthetic material used in the making of garments and other stuff. Nyron, though similar to Nylon but you replace the R with an L. Nyron, is not good for making garments or other stuff, so in the cloth cutting room is generally considered as useless. That view changes when on the field of play where Nyron, is used for defensive prowess and set piece where Nylon, is not very good for footballing roles other than the production of replica Shirts made in Taiwan. Hope this helps you out SAH![/p][/quote]Made me larf!!! D.unstable
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12:07am Tue 25 Sep 12

Travelling Hornet says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Travelling Hornet wrote:
If Kilkenny had scored in injury time because of Yeates mistake,there would of been two distinct cliques in the dressing room , Dean and the rest of the players!
ooops .. we get your point though
Doh !!!
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Travelling Hornet[/bold] wrote: If Kilkenny had scored in injury time because of Yeates mistake,there would of been two distinct cliques in the dressing room , Dean and the rest of the players![/p][/quote]ooops .. we get your point though[/p][/quote]Doh !!! Travelling Hornet
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8:11am Tue 25 Sep 12

OliverF1976 says...

harrowhornet wrote:
40+ players . 25+ scolars and young pros. (no reserve fixtures-no U21's league).Far too many players to keep happy .

Now, so much young talent in the Academy that cant possibly come through to the 1st team as the pozzo's totally discard and down grade it after so much hard work over recent years.....its a crime.

Well, lets hope the new intakes get us promoted.....hmmmm.
I think the Pozzos have realised that the academy doesn't produce players that are good enough. There is a long list of average league one players such as wichelow, Jenkins, Massey, Mingoia, Bennett....the list goes on! A few may make a championship side but that's about it. The few that may cut it are still in and around the match day squad but other than Murray are still unproven. I don't think the Pozzos can be criticised when the stats speak for themselves and tells them all they need to know.
[quote][p][bold]harrowhornet[/bold] wrote: 40+ players . 25+ scolars and young pros. (no reserve fixtures-no U21's league).Far too many players to keep happy . Now, so much young talent in the Academy that cant possibly come through to the 1st team as the pozzo's totally discard and down grade it after so much hard work over recent years.....its a crime. Well, lets hope the new intakes get us promoted.....hmmmm.[/p][/quote]I think the Pozzos have realised that the academy doesn't produce players that are good enough. There is a long list of average league one players such as wichelow, Jenkins, Massey, Mingoia, Bennett....the list goes on! A few may make a championship side but that's about it. The few that may cut it are still in and around the match day squad but other than Murray are still unproven. I don't think the Pozzos can be criticised when the stats speak for themselves and tells them all they need to know. OliverF1976
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10:34am Tue 25 Sep 12

harrowhornet says...

OliverF1976...
...what a rediculous comment.

Marvin Sordell
Matty Whichelow,
Ashley Young
Lloyd Doyley
Sean Murray
Piero Mingoia
Adrian Mariappa
Richard Lee
Tommie Hoban
Lee Hodson
Tommy Smith
Jonathan Bond
etc etc

they' re all good enough for WFC and beyond, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE.

After all the work that was done with Harefield and now to scrap the U21, Reserve and down grade the academy.....its short-sighted madness.

We need a strong academy. its the live blood of our club and always will be.
OliverF1976... ...what a rediculous comment. Marvin Sordell Matty Whichelow, Ashley Young Lloyd Doyley Sean Murray Piero Mingoia Adrian Mariappa Richard Lee Tommie Hoban Lee Hodson Tommy Smith Jonathan Bond etc etc they' re all good enough for WFC and beyond, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE. After all the work that was done with Harefield and now to scrap the U21, Reserve and down grade the academy.....its short-sighted madness. We need a strong academy. its the live blood of our club and always will be. harrowhornet
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12:33pm Tue 25 Sep 12

harrowhornet says...

or even...LIFE-Blood
or even...LIFE-Blood harrowhornet
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2:26pm Tue 25 Sep 12

lutondown says...

harrowhornet wrote:
OliverF1976...
...what a rediculous comment.

Marvin Sordell
Matty Whichelow,
Ashley Young
Lloyd Doyley
Sean Murray
Piero Mingoia
Adrian Mariappa
Richard Lee
Tommie Hoban
Lee Hodson
Tommy Smith
Jonathan Bond
etc etc

they' re all good enough for WFC and beyond, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE.

After all the work that was done with Harefield and now to scrap the U21, Reserve and down grade the academy.....its short-sighted madness.

We need a strong academy. its the live blood of our club and always will be.
WrongYoung did not come through the academy nor did Tommy Smith, they were youth team players, there's a difference. Sordell come from Fulham.
All the others are at best decent players and at worse poor.
The academy's excellence has been over stated, was too expensive and it is now what the owners want it to be. Get over it.
[quote][p][bold]harrowhornet[/bold] wrote: OliverF1976... ...what a rediculous comment. Marvin Sordell Matty Whichelow, Ashley Young Lloyd Doyley Sean Murray Piero Mingoia Adrian Mariappa Richard Lee Tommie Hoban Lee Hodson Tommy Smith Jonathan Bond etc etc they' re all good enough for WFC and beyond, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE. After all the work that was done with Harefield and now to scrap the U21, Reserve and down grade the academy.....its short-sighted madness. We need a strong academy. its the live blood of our club and always will be.[/p][/quote]WrongYoung did not come through the academy nor did Tommy Smith, they were youth team players, there's a difference. Sordell come from Fulham. All the others are at best decent players and at worse poor. The academy's excellence has been over stated, was too expensive and it is now what the owners want it to be. Get over it. lutondown
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7:47pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Oracledave says...

I find myself agreeing with LD these days whereas last season it was invariably the opposite - must have been the 'Baz' effect !

Anyway to emphasise the point - Middlesborough currently have 6 regular first teamers who came through the academy plus a recent history of big money sales (e.g- Adam Johnson, Wheater). That is what sets the benchmark !
I find myself agreeing with LD these days whereas last season it was invariably the opposite - must have been the 'Baz' effect ! Anyway to emphasise the point - Middlesborough currently have 6 regular first teamers who came through the academy plus a recent history of big money sales (e.g- Adam Johnson, Wheater). That is what sets the benchmark ! Oracledave
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7:50pm Tue 25 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Oracledave wrote:
I find myself agreeing with LD these days whereas last season it was invariably the opposite - must have been the 'Baz' effect !

Anyway to emphasise the point - Middlesborough currently have 6 regular first teamers who came through the academy plus a recent history of big money sales (e.g- Adam Johnson, Wheater). That is what sets the benchmark !
Well what can I say? On Bas I was right! Lol
I'll be sending you your idontlovebasanymore badge soon!
[quote][p][bold]Oracledave[/bold] wrote: I find myself agreeing with LD these days whereas last season it was invariably the opposite - must have been the 'Baz' effect ! Anyway to emphasise the point - Middlesborough currently have 6 regular first teamers who came through the academy plus a recent history of big money sales (e.g- Adam Johnson, Wheater). That is what sets the benchmark ![/p][/quote]Well what can I say? On Bas I was right! Lol I'll be sending you your idontlovebasanymore badge soon! lutondown
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7:53pm Tue 25 Sep 12

lutondown says...

harrowhornet wrote:
or even...LIFE-Blood
No live bloods ok, it's in line with the rest of that twaddle in your post.
And no the life blood of our club for the foreseeable future is the Pozzo scouting system, if you was to look at it impartially you'd recognise the genius of it.
[quote][p][bold]harrowhornet[/bold] wrote: or even...LIFE-Blood[/p][/quote]No live bloods ok, it's in line with the rest of that twaddle in your post. And no the life blood of our club for the foreseeable future is the Pozzo scouting system, if you was to look at it impartially you'd recognise the genius of it. lutondown
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7:56pm Tue 25 Sep 12

Oracledave says...

lutondown wrote:
Oracledave wrote:
I find myself agreeing with LD these days whereas last season it was invariably the opposite - must have been the 'Baz' effect !

Anyway to emphasise the point - Middlesborough currently have 6 regular first teamers who came through the academy plus a recent history of big money sales (e.g- Adam Johnson, Wheater). That is what sets the benchmark !
Well what can I say? On Bas I was right! Lol
I'll be sending you your idontlovebasanymore badge soon!
The main problem with Baz was that he was actually I fanatical Pompey fan all along - posters on bedroom wall hardly ever missed a game etc. His best pal is probably that bloke with all the tattoos and the big hat !
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oracledave[/bold] wrote: I find myself agreeing with LD these days whereas last season it was invariably the opposite - must have been the 'Baz' effect ! Anyway to emphasise the point - Middlesborough currently have 6 regular first teamers who came through the academy plus a recent history of big money sales (e.g- Adam Johnson, Wheater). That is what sets the benchmark ![/p][/quote]Well what can I say? On Bas I was right! Lol I'll be sending you your idontlovebasanymore badge soon![/p][/quote]The main problem with Baz was that he was actually I fanatical Pompey fan all along - posters on bedroom wall hardly ever missed a game etc. His best pal is probably that bloke with all the tattoos and the big hat ! Oracledave
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7:57pm Tue 25 Sep 12

OliverF1976 says...

harrowhornet wrote:
OliverF1976...
...what a rediculous comment.

Marvin Sordell
Matty Whichelow,
Ashley Young
Lloyd Doyley
Sean Murray
Piero Mingoia
Adrian Mariappa
Richard Lee
Tommie Hoban
Lee Hodson
Tommy Smith
Jonathan Bond
etc etc

they' re all good enough for WFC and beyond, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE.

After all the work that was done with Harefield and now to scrap the U21, Reserve and down grade the academy.....its short-sighted madness.

We need a strong academy. its the live blood of our club and always will be.
Young
Doyley
Mariappa
Lee
Smith
Sordell (pinched off fulham)

None of these cane through the Harefield Academy. They were youth team players. We still have a youth scheme and have simply downgraded an expensive academy with unproven graduates. I don't think it was a ridiculous comment at all. It's more ridiculous to consider Mingoia and Wichelow a success.
[quote][p][bold]harrowhornet[/bold] wrote: OliverF1976... ...what a rediculous comment. Marvin Sordell Matty Whichelow, Ashley Young Lloyd Doyley Sean Murray Piero Mingoia Adrian Mariappa Richard Lee Tommie Hoban Lee Hodson Tommy Smith Jonathan Bond etc etc they' re all good enough for WFC and beyond, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE. After all the work that was done with Harefield and now to scrap the U21, Reserve and down grade the academy.....its short-sighted madness. We need a strong academy. its the live blood of our club and always will be.[/p][/quote]Young Doyley Mariappa Lee Smith Sordell (pinched off fulham) None of these cane through the Harefield Academy. They were youth team players. We still have a youth scheme and have simply downgraded an expensive academy with unproven graduates. I don't think it was a ridiculous comment at all. It's more ridiculous to consider Mingoia and Wichelow a success. OliverF1976
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8:02pm Tue 25 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Oracledave wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Oracledave wrote:
I find myself agreeing with LD these days whereas last season it was invariably the opposite - must have been the 'Baz' effect !

Anyway to emphasise the point - Middlesborough currently have 6 regular first teamers who came through the academy plus a recent history of big money sales (e.g- Adam Johnson, Wheater). That is what sets the benchmark !
Well what can I say? On Bas I was right! Lol
I'll be sending you your idontlovebasanymore badge soon!
The main problem with Baz was that he was actually I fanatical Pompey fan all along - posters on bedroom wall hardly ever missed a game etc. His best pal is probably that bloke with all the tattoos and the big hat !
Pay up Pompey, Pompey pay up...
They will if Spas climbs on board
[quote][p][bold]Oracledave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oracledave[/bold] wrote: I find myself agreeing with LD these days whereas last season it was invariably the opposite - must have been the 'Baz' effect ! Anyway to emphasise the point - Middlesborough currently have 6 regular first teamers who came through the academy plus a recent history of big money sales (e.g- Adam Johnson, Wheater). That is what sets the benchmark ![/p][/quote]Well what can I say? On Bas I was right! Lol I'll be sending you your idontlovebasanymore badge soon![/p][/quote]The main problem with Baz was that he was actually I fanatical Pompey fan all along - posters on bedroom wall hardly ever missed a game etc. His best pal is probably that bloke with all the tattoos and the big hat ![/p][/quote]Pay up Pompey, Pompey pay up... They will if Spas climbs on board lutondown
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9:58pm Tue 25 Sep 12

harrowhornet says...

Lutondown -OliverF-SAHornet. Open your eyes. They are mad to throw away the academy. Lets revisit this, say ....next October.ok?
Lutondown -OliverF-SAHornet. Open your eyes. They are mad to throw away the academy. Lets revisit this, say ....next October.ok? harrowhornet
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10:07pm Tue 25 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

harrowhornet wrote:
Lutondown -OliverF-SAHornet. Open your eyes. They are mad to throw away the academy. Lets revisit this, say ....next October.ok?
Revisit it whenever you like harrowhorn but next October we would have spent another +3m quid on the academy and then another +3m quid every year after that, in the vain hope that we grow players to sell at a rate in excess of +3m quid per year. It just aint going to happen.
[quote][p][bold]harrowhornet[/bold] wrote: Lutondown -OliverF-SAHornet. Open your eyes. They are mad to throw away the academy. Lets revisit this, say ....next October.ok?[/p][/quote]Revisit it whenever you like harrowhorn but next October we would have spent another +3m quid on the academy and then another +3m quid every year after that, in the vain hope that we grow players to sell at a rate in excess of +3m quid per year. It just aint going to happen. SAHornet
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10:40pm Tue 25 Sep 12

OliverF1976 says...

harrowhornet wrote:
Lutondown -OliverF-SAHornet. Open your eyes. They are mad to throw away the academy. Lets revisit this, say ....next October.ok?
The fact of the matter is the players are not good enough. It seems that with them all they look promising in their first season and then the following season reality sets in and these players are seen for what they are....average! The Harefield academy has lost money during its existence and not made a single penny from its graduates. That is a failed business and has to cut costs or close its doors. These are the cold hard facts. Sordell, young, mariappa etc were not part of the Harefield academy so what sales have been generated to date from this wonderful place? It has lost millions!
[quote][p][bold]harrowhornet[/bold] wrote: Lutondown -OliverF-SAHornet. Open your eyes. They are mad to throw away the academy. Lets revisit this, say ....next October.ok?[/p][/quote]The fact of the matter is the players are not good enough. It seems that with them all they look promising in their first season and then the following season reality sets in and these players are seen for what they are....average! The Harefield academy has lost money during its existence and not made a single penny from its graduates. That is a failed business and has to cut costs or close its doors. These are the cold hard facts. Sordell, young, mariappa etc were not part of the Harefield academy so what sales have been generated to date from this wonderful place? It has lost millions! OliverF1976
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6:58pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Monstermunch17 says...

Missing the point again Lutonclown.

Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size.

Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances.

Up the Pozzos.

Last one out, turn out the lights.
Missing the point again Lutonclown. Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size. Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances. Up the Pozzos. Last one out, turn out the lights. Monstermunch17
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8:01pm Wed 26 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Missing the point again Lutonclown.

Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size.

Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances.

Up the Pozzos.

Last one out, turn out the lights.
Me and my fellow numpties will be at Huddersfield Saturday.
I'm in a Gray hooded top, blue track bottoms with British lion emblem on leg, I'm bald and stockily built. I look forward to your name calling face to face
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Missing the point again Lutonclown. Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size. Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances. Up the Pozzos. Last one out, turn out the lights.[/p][/quote]Me and my fellow numpties will be at Huddersfield Saturday. I'm in a Gray hooded top, blue track bottoms with British lion emblem on leg, I'm bald and stockily built. I look forward to your name calling face to face lutondown
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8:32pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Monstermunch17 says...

Best trackie bottoms! good luck, sounds delightful
Best trackie bottoms! good luck, sounds delightful Monstermunch17
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8:35pm Wed 26 Sep 12

OliverF1976 says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Missing the point again Lutonclown.

Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size.

Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances.

Up the Pozzos.

Last one out, turn out the lights.
When exactly have the Pozzos stated there will be no youth scheme at Watford? THEY HAVEN'T. They have just downgraded a failing academy. The Harefield Academy has been a flop. Average players generating no income! If you think the likes of Pudil Vydra, Forestieri and Abdi are stiffs then you clearly don't know quality when you see it!! Players like these coming to our club simply highlight how poor players like Massey, Jenkins etc etc are! Once these players gel into a team then the improvements in our squad will be glaringly obvious. Congratulations to the Pozzos who have finally cut costs on an academy that in any other business would be considered a disaster. Anybody who cannot see this is a clown.
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Missing the point again Lutonclown. Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size. Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances. Up the Pozzos. Last one out, turn out the lights.[/p][/quote]When exactly have the Pozzos stated there will be no youth scheme at Watford? THEY HAVEN'T. They have just downgraded a failing academy. The Harefield Academy has been a flop. Average players generating no income! If you think the likes of Pudil Vydra, Forestieri and Abdi are stiffs then you clearly don't know quality when you see it!! Players like these coming to our club simply highlight how poor players like Massey, Jenkins etc etc are! Once these players gel into a team then the improvements in our squad will be glaringly obvious. Congratulations to the Pozzos who have finally cut costs on an academy that in any other business would be considered a disaster. Anybody who cannot see this is a clown. OliverF1976
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8:41pm Wed 26 Sep 12

lutondown says...

OliverF1976 wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
Missing the point again Lutonclown.

Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size.

Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances.

Up the Pozzos.

Last one out, turn out the lights.
When exactly have the Pozzos stated there will be no youth scheme at Watford? THEY HAVEN'T. They have just downgraded a failing academy. The Harefield Academy has been a flop. Average players generating no income! If you think the likes of Pudil Vydra, Forestieri and Abdi are stiffs then you clearly don't know quality when you see it!! Players like these coming to our club simply highlight how poor players like Massey, Jenkins etc etc are! Once these players gel into a team then the improvements in our squad will be glaringly obvious. Congratulations to the Pozzos who have finally cut costs on an academy that in any other business would be considered a disaster. Anybody who cannot see this is a clown.
Absolutely right, god post as always Oli
[quote][p][bold]OliverF1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Missing the point again Lutonclown. Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size. Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances. Up the Pozzos. Last one out, turn out the lights.[/p][/quote]When exactly have the Pozzos stated there will be no youth scheme at Watford? THEY HAVEN'T. They have just downgraded a failing academy. The Harefield Academy has been a flop. Average players generating no income! If you think the likes of Pudil Vydra, Forestieri and Abdi are stiffs then you clearly don't know quality when you see it!! Players like these coming to our club simply highlight how poor players like Massey, Jenkins etc etc are! Once these players gel into a team then the improvements in our squad will be glaringly obvious. Congratulations to the Pozzos who have finally cut costs on an academy that in any other business would be considered a disaster. Anybody who cannot see this is a clown.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right, god post as always Oli lutondown
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8:57pm Wed 26 Sep 12

@ChrisBottom16 says...

lutondown wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
Missing the point again Lutonclown.

Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size.

Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances.

Up the Pozzos.

Last one out, turn out the lights.
Me and my fellow numpties will be at Huddersfield Saturday.
I'm in a Gray hooded top, blue track bottoms with British lion emblem on leg, I'm bald and stockily built. I look forward to your name calling face to face
Numptie...?! I've been waiting to be called that as it was the last one on my list of divvy names iv been called! I can cross it off now and do a numptie jig!
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Missing the point again Lutonclown. Whether it's an Academy, Youth team, Development squad, whatever - while we're shipping over Udinese stiffs in such massive numbers, there is nowhere for these kids to go, except out the club. You and your numpties may want that, but it's the road to oblivion for a club of Watford's size. Bloated playing staff, manager out of his depth, dwindling attendances. Up the Pozzos. Last one out, turn out the lights.[/p][/quote]Me and my fellow numpties will be at Huddersfield Saturday. I'm in a Gray hooded top, blue track bottoms with British lion emblem on leg, I'm bald and stockily built. I look forward to your name calling face to face[/p][/quote]Numptie...?! I've been waiting to be called that as it was the last one on my list of divvy names iv been called! I can cross it off now and do a numptie jig! @ChrisBottom16
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