Zola asks fans for patience as he looks to excite (From This Is Local London)

jasonwatford wrote:
Joe Garner played for 58 mins ??? must of missed that.

luther blissett wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
Joe Garner played for 58 mins ??? must of missed that.

Stop bloody moaning

jasonwatford wrote:
Why would you pay to see him ?

watford06 wrote:
Coach1 says...


The new 443 formation, is easily the best formation


am i missing something here or are we going to play with 12 men

Watforddogs wrote:
Jason - why don't you start following Luton - none of us will miss you and you clearly don't understand the meaning of "support"

Bush Hornet wrote:
I'll be patient with Zola and impatient with anyone who moans about boring passing football. I've been waiting years for a Watford who will play properly. Bring it on

Coach1 wrote:
Patience is a must this season, possession football is great to watch & Zola has inherited a team/ players who are not used to playing that way.
Zola must spend time on getting the players to play a new formation, key players getting used to different roles in the team, then they have to build a understanding of when to keep the ball, playing around the back to give the front 3 a rest.. the players have to also build an understanding of when it is right to keep the ball to tire the opposition and also when to play at a higher tempo to penertrate the opppostion with the balls through or in behind the full backs for the 11 or 7 to run onto.
The championship will be a test to play this way, so dont be surprised if it doesnt come together for at least a couple of months

The new 443 formation, is easily the best formation when players can play, solid when attacking and you make a 5 in midfield when defender, high tempo to get the ball back, then when we have the ball back the players must keep it and move it quick, you keep the ball to try and draw the opposition out then once you do that you play high tempo around them and break quick with the 11, 7 and 9 as the front three.

If fans expect this to happen straight away I would stay away and moan at home till at least November..

It is exciting times and I for one cant wait to see Watford play this type of footbal.

jasonwatford wrote:
Watford dogs ur the kind of person who thinks everyone should get a lollypop on sports day arent you. Dont ever disgrace me about being a supporter and dare to mention that team in orange and white. Get real with Garner...Sometimes you aint got it and he hasnt...i dont think he will score goals playing in a football side. I guess you would have been telling us liam henderson will come good coz he scored so many in the reserves. Garner is like Steve Butler was for Watford..will run around all day but has no genuine goals in him. Strikers can score from anywhere with feet head etc can you tell me from what you have seen of him he will score goals ?? Forest fans will tell you as well he was terrible for them. Good young lad who cant cut it at this level. Watforddogs.........

smell the coffee..or should it be cappacino ???

jasonwatford wrote:
Watford dogs ur the kind of person who thinks everyone should get a lollypop on sports day arent you. Dont ever disgrace me about being a supporter and dare to mention that team in orange and white. Get real with Garner...Sometimes you aint got it and he hasnt...i dont think he will score goals playing in a football side. I guess you would have been telling us liam henderson will come good coz he scored so many in the reserves. Garner is like Steve Butler was for Watford..will run around all day but has no genuine goals in him. Strikers can score from anywhere with feet head etc can you tell me from what you have seen of him he will score goals ?? Forest fans will tell you as well he was terrible for them. Good young lad who cant cut it at this level. Watforddogs.........

smell the coffee..or should it be cappacino ???

Toshhorn wrote:
All parties will be patient until Christmas.
The Directors will be patient with Mr Zola, We will be patient with Mr Zola and Mr Zola must be patient with us.
After Christmas....... Hopefully we won't need to be patient

the sniper wrote:

luther blissett wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
Joe Garner played for 58 mins ??? must of missed that.

Stop bloody moaning

Here Here Luther Blissett!!!
Got a feeling Garner will be ok if he listens to Zola...COYH

holtonian wrote:
A proper side that passes would be great after some of the rubbish i have had to watch the past 60 years or so. As far as i am concerned we have been very lucky in our new found management team, if we as true supporters give Gianfranco the fair time needed i am certain we will be the envy of other clubs.Excuse the pun but" Rome was not built in a day." 2 or 3 seasons then we may be ready to compete in the Premier League on a real level. If it arrives earlier then that would be a bonus in my eyes.

jasonwatford wrote:
Watford dogs ur the kind of person who thinks everyone should get a lollypop on sports day arent you. Dont ever disgrace me about being a supporter and dare to mention that team in orange and white. Get real with Garner...Sometimes you aint got it and he hasnt...i dont think he will score goals playing in a football side. I guess you would have been telling us liam henderson will come good coz he scored so many in the reserves. Garner is like Steve Butler was for Watford..will run around all day but has no genuine goals in him. Strikers can score from anywhere with feet head etc can you tell me from what you have seen of him he will score goals ?? Forest fans will tell you as well he was terrible for them. Good young lad who cant cut it at this level. Watforddogs.........

smell the coffee..or should it be cappacino ???

JohnnyHornet wrote:

holtonian wrote:
A proper side that passes would be great after some of the rubbish i have had to watch the past 60 years or so. As far as i am concerned we have been very lucky in our new found management team, if we as true supporters give Gianfranco the fair time needed i am certain we will be the envy of other clubs.Excuse the pun but" Rome was not built in a day." 2 or 3 seasons then we may be ready to compete in the Premier League on a real level. If it arrives earlier then that would be a bonus in my eyes.

As long as we don't have to endure the same tippy tappy back passing durge that England churn out, I'll be happy with a good mix of craft , skill passing and a few cultured 60 yard passes, Oh yeah that's media talk for long ball stuff.

Bush Hornet wrote:
I'll be patient with Zola and impatient with anyone who moans about boring passing football. I've been waiting years for a Watford who will play properly. Bring it on

jasonwatford wrote:
u tube dont make me laugh...we can all look good on u tube showing 30 seconds of a game or 3 goals....dont show what you did for other 89 mins thou does it ?? Plus yes 1million for a prospect that looked good when younger but we can all name players that looked good younger..scored loads of goals at junior/reserve level but never made it..our own rod thomas was one..franny jeffers...another one...neil mellor at liverpool next robbie fowler they said...I am happy to bet he dont score more than 5 goals in this season for us and if he does i will give a charity of your choice £100.00

jimbuctu wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
Watford dogs ur the kind of person who thinks everyone should get a lollypop on sports day arent you. Dont ever disgrace me about being a supporter and dare to mention that team in orange and white. Get real with Garner...Sometimes you aint got it and he hasnt...i dont think he will score goals playing in a football side. I guess you would have been telling us liam henderson will come good coz he scored so many in the reserves. Garner is like Steve Butler was for Watford..will run around all day but has no genuine goals in him. Strikers can score from anywhere with feet head etc can you tell me from what you have seen of him he will score goals ?? Forest fans will tell you as well he was terrible for them. Good young lad who cant cut it at this level. Watforddogs.........


smell the coffee..or should it be cappacino ???

For some reason I always had a soft spot for Stevie B. I have a feeling I just felt sorry for him though! I was a youngun at the time so anyone wearing a yellow shirt was god to be fair.

Cows ar8es and banjos spring to mind!

jasonwatford wrote:
By the way watford 3 - 0 Gillingham at half time......lets hope the new cze boy has got them

Watforddogs wrote:
He has - 2
Connor smith the other

How are the town getting on Jason?

jasonwatford wrote:
Jason is a hatter
Jason is a hatter
Na na na na
na na na na
Jason is a hatter
Jason is a hatter
Na na na na
na na na na”

And you said i was 12 ???? pmsl anyway wont be replying to you anymore.

jasonwatford wrote:
u tube dont make me laugh...we can all look good on u tube showing 30 seconds of a game or 3 goals....dont show what you did for other 89 mins thou does it ?? Plus yes 1million for a prospect that looked good when younger but we can all name players that looked good younger..scored loads of goals at junior/reserve level but never made it..our own rod thomas was one..franny jeffers...another one...neil mellor at liverpool next robbie fowler they said...I am happy to bet he dont score more than 5 goals in this season for us and if he does i will give a charity of your choice £100.00

londomollari wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
u tube dont make me laugh...we can all look good on u tube showing 30 seconds of a game or 3 goals....dont show what you did for other 89 mins thou does it ?? Plus yes 1million for a prospect that looked good when younger but we can all name players that looked good younger..scored loads of goals at junior/reserve level but never made it..our own rod thomas was one..franny jeffers...another one...neil mellor at liverpool next robbie fowler they said...I am happy to bet he dont score more than 5 goals in this season for us and if he does i will give a charity of your choice £100.00

Ummm. True. I also remember some other c++p players at Watford. Then a new manager took over. Jenkins, Downes, Joslyn, Pritchett, Luther (only plays with the sun on his back) Blissett.

Lets see if Zola has a similar effect on last seasons staff before we condemn out of hand.

jasonwatford wrote:
ok jimbuctu..your on my old foe...my charity is great ormand street by the way,,you can have league games cup games..even bloody training !!!

corbindallas wrote:
I will give Zola the time as long as he gives/shows us a team capable of moving forward, to that end we need new strikers, if he sticks by what he has said Chris wont feature yet he played at Gillingham so sort of sends out the wrong message, Deeney should never wear a Watford shirt again and be sold off, Forsyth and Garner need to start producing and I can't comment on the loan strikers or potential new striker yet€, but as he is 30 he clearly has a up hill struggle as a unknown and it looks like our set up will mean players in different positions to what they were in last year which obviously means we will need more time to sort out our starting eleven positions. I have been dissapointed with the set up so far in the pre seasons as it has been a big jumble of players moving around but guess with the training that will show who's in the mix and capable of stepping up, also we do seem to have a team of unfit and injured players who will need to get up to speed very quickly for us to hit the ground running, like others eventually gave Dyche the benefit till Christmas Zola has like wise from me, if we are not on an even keel to Dyches record then I will be very dissapointed with the investment made to improve the club so far.

lutondown wrote:
Your spot mate all donkeys turned into very good players!
Alan Mayes? Could of been a legend

holtonian wrote:

JohnnyHornet wrote:

holtonian wrote:
A proper side that passes would be great after some of the rubbish i have had to watch the past 60 years or so. As far as i am concerned we have been very lucky in our new found management team, if we as true supporters give Gianfranco the fair time needed i am certain we will be the envy of other clubs.Excuse the pun but" Rome was not built in a day." 2 or 3 seasons then we may be ready to compete in the Premier League on a real level. If it arrives earlier then that would be a bonus in my eyes.

As long as we don't have to endure the same tippy tappy back passing durge that England churn out, I'll be happy with a good mix of craft , skill passing and a few cultured 60 yard passes, Oh yeah that's media talk for long ball stuff.

I agree Johnny a mixture would be perfect , passing being the point.Some players will never see a pass and thats what Gianfranco will be wanting to amend. ts not nice to pick on individual players but we do have far too many on our staff that lack the type of vision that will be needed.

Coach1 wrote:
Patience is a must this season, possession football is great to watch & Zola has inherited a team/ players who are not used to playing that way. Zola must spend time on getting the players to play a new formation, key players getting used to different roles in the team, then they have to build a understanding of when to keep the ball, playing around the back to give the front 3 a rest.. the players have to also build an understanding of when it is right to keep the ball to tire the opposition and also when to play at a higher tempo to penertrate the opppostion with the balls through or in behind the full backs for the 11 or 7 to run onto. The championship will be a test to play this way, so dont be surprised if it doesnt come together for at least a couple of months The new 443 formation, is easily the best formation when players can play, solid when attacking and you make a 5 in midfield when defender, high tempo to get the ball back, then when we have the ball back the players must keep it and move it quick, you keep the ball to try and draw the opposition out then once you do that you play high tempo around them and break quick with the 11, 7 and 9 as the front three. If fans expect this to happen straight away I would stay away and moan at home till at least November.. It is exciting times and I for one cant wait to see Watford play this type of footbal.

Watfordy2407 wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote: I'll be patient with Zola and impatient with anyone who moans about boring passing football. I've been waiting years for a Watford who will play properly. Bring it on

I'm with the Bush hornet however Jason be patient as it will all settle down.it will take a while to metamorphisise from the style we have known to the style Gianfranco will implement.It may take until November to get our rhythm going(it did in 1981-82 under GT) We would all be happy with 10th this season.promotion this season could result in a quick return as in the 2 previous occasions under GT and AB. We will make it to the Premiership so ENJOY THE RIDE It's going to be good with a few understandable hiccups

jimbuctu wrote:

the sniper wrote:

luther blissett wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
Joe Garner played for 58 mins ??? must of missed that.

Stop bloody moaning

Here Here Luther Blissett!!!
Got a feeling Garner will be ok if he listens to Zola...COYH

Fully agree. Can't understand the moaning about players - particularly those who have seemingly had good pedigree in the past and lost their way. They are the ones who need support and encouragement. See youtube videos of Garner for proof he's got a bit about him. Some PEACHES on there!

I play better when I'm confident at all the sports I take part in. Everyone does. It's obvious.

Another who seems to get slated is Yeates. He had more assists than anyone last year. And scored a few too. Can't really see what the issue is with him. He's not a burst of pace winger but he's better than plenty we've had and have got.

Lets just be supportive and excited for a bit and let them get on with it eh? PLEASE don't do what we've done the last few seasons and end up with half the Rookery having a go after two minutes of a match. We've GOT to make more of an effort for our club. Our fans at home, on the whole, have been dire for the last few years and it would be nice to think we can crank it up a notch and enjoy ourselves in the stands a bit more wouldn't it?

Some will say the team needs to be better, the ground needs to be better etc but I say that's rubbish and it;s up to us to create the environment the players love playing in.

I for one am massively looking forward to the season and love the look of all our signings. Come on you Orns!

jimbuctu wrote:

the sniper wrote:

luther blissett wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
Joe Garner played for 58 mins ??? must of missed that.

Stop bloody moaning

Here Here Luther Blissett!!!
Got a feeling Garner will be ok if he listens to Zola...COYH

Fully agree. Can't understand the moaning about players - particularly those who have seemingly had good pedigree in the past and lost their way. They are the ones who need support and encouragement. See youtube videos of Garner for proof he's got a bit about him. Some PEACHES on there!

I play better when I'm confident at all the sports I take part in. Everyone does. It's obvious.

Another who seems to get slated is Yeates. He had more assists than anyone last year. And scored a few too. Can't really see what the issue is with him. He's not a burst of pace winger but he's better than plenty we've had and have got.

Lets just be supportive and excited for a bit and let them get on with it eh? PLEASE don't do what we've done the last few seasons and end up with half the Rookery having a go after two minutes of a match. We've GOT to make more of an effort for our club. Our fans at home, on the whole, have been dire for the last few years and it would be nice to think we can crank it up a notch and enjoy ourselves in the stands a bit more wouldn't it?

Some will say the team needs to be better, the ground needs to be better etc but I say that's rubbish and it;s up to us to create the environment the players love playing in.

I for one am massively looking forward to the season and love the look of all our signings. Come on you Orns!