No time frame for Vicarage Road redevelopment (From This Is Local London)

PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:
Sensible enough - no point having 25000 seats for gates of 12000

mrbankrupt wrote:

PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote: Sensible enough - no point having 25000 seats for gates of 12000

True,we struggle to fill 3 sides at the moment. Hopefully with the new owners the crowds will come back

Colin West's mullet wrote:
well I sit in the Upper Rous and find the rest of the stadium so unsightly that it makes it hard to concentrate on reading my newspaper.

Chris the Vic wrote:
the Pozzo's strategy seems very sensible.

in defence of Bas he uncovered a can of worms regarding the South West Corner. The plans that he inherited were a pipe dream of Boy Blunder. Totally overspecified and nobody had gone through them in the intervening period to really sort them out until Bas arrived. Then however much was engineered value it still did not really fit the budget, hence the pub as a potential money earner was fast tracked.
In meantime I wonder whether even with a really good team the fans will retur and fill the Rous and the Rookery plus half the Vic stand.
Bear in mind the owners if they are investing in the team may well ask the fans to pay the going rate for Championship teams. We have had it on the cheap for several years and the stands have still seen poor occupancy.

PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote: Sensible enough - no point having 25000 seats for gates of 12000

True,we struggle to fill 3 sides at the moment. Hopefully with the new owners the crowds will come back

...other than it is an ugly eye-sore and a bit of an embarrassment!

buckler wrote:
What no new stand named after the great Bassini, I'm amazed!

Terry Dactile wrote:
I know you are not allowed to make any negative comments on here now or the trolls will spit their dummys out. But I will let them spit their dummys out. The main stand is a disgrace and needs sorting asap. It is all very well saying the Rous is like a library which is the Rookery and vicarage road stands were full of mutes as well. I went to quite a few away games last season and our atmosphere is far worse than anywhere else and we should as fans be ashamed of ourselves. The only factor that mitigates this is that we have an ancient ruin of one side of the ground that has a major effect on the atmosphere. If we want a successful team we need a good atmosphere, without a new stand and the awakening of the living dead, the atmosphere will not improve and the team will suffer. It's a priority, though before anyone states the obvious it wouldn't have happened under the previous regime.

ChrisG85 wrote:
Sensible arguments for when to build it, currently we're not filling the 3 sides.

But whilst reading the article all I can think of is the Wayne's World line "Build it.....and they will come"

bigthunder wrote:

Terry Dactile wrote:
I know you are not allowed to make any negative comments on here now or the trolls will spit their dummys out. But I will let them spit their dummys out. The main stand is a disgrace and needs sorting asap. It is all very well saying the Rous is like a library which is the Rookery and vicarage road stands were full of mutes as well. I went to quite a few away games last season and our atmosphere is far worse than anywhere else and we should as fans be ashamed of ourselves. The only factor that mitigates this is that we have an ancient ruin of one side of the ground that has a major effect on the atmosphere. If we want a successful team we need a good atmosphere, without a new stand and the awakening of the living dead, the atmosphere will not improve and the team will suffer. It's a priority, though before anyone states the obvious it wouldn't have happened under the previous regime.

Have to agree with this view
The new stand is an asolute must in my opinion , if you are trying to sell a house you make sure it has a roof , we need to sell a vision to new players , showing them round the vic would be disaster

Have to say this article above is the most disappointing i have read so far , i accept Duxbury says it is on the agenda but for me should be very high up on it, please take note Mr Duxbury sick and tired of attending an appalling looking excuse for a stadium , the worst in the division ?

lutondown wrote:

ChrisG85 wrote: Sensible arguments for when to build it, currently we're not filling the 3 sides. But whilst reading the article all I can think of is the Wayne's World line "Build it.....and they will come"

No Kevin Costner said that in Fields of Dreams, but then again Wayne's world probably ripped the backdoor out of Costner! Rightly so. I want to see the ground complete and I'm Confident that will happen as will Prem football. In Pozzos we trust

Chris the Vic wrote:
the Pozzo's strategy seems very sensible.

in defence of Bas he uncovered a can of worms regarding the South West Corner. The plans that he inherited were a pipe dream of Boy Blunder. Totally overspecified and nobody had gone through them in the intervening period to really sort them out until Bas arrived. Then however much was engineered value it still did not really fit the budget, hence the pub as a potential money earner was fast tracked.
In meantime I wonder whether even with a really good team the fans will retur and fill the Rous and the Rookery plus half the Vic stand.
Bear in mind the owners if they are investing in the team may well ask the fans to pay the going rate for Championship teams. We have had it on the cheap for several years and the stands have still seen poor occupancy.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
I understand their logic but have to say I'm disappointed. I thought this was one of the things they commented on when they took over, something about "appropriate facilities" ? Don't remember that initial comment being "we'll build it when you get into the prem" ? Perhaps I'm wrong ?

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
I understand their logic but have to say I'm disappointed. I thought this was one of the things they commented on when they took over, something about "appropriate facilities" ? Don't remember that initial comment being "we'll build it when you get into the prem" ? Perhaps I'm wrong ?

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
I understand their logic but have to say I'm disappointed. I thought this was one of the things they commented on when they took over, something about "appropriate facilities" ? Don't remember that initial comment being "we'll build it when you get into the prem" ? Perhaps I'm wrong ?

mrbankrupt wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
I understand their logic but have to say I'm disappointed. I thought this was one of the things they commented on when they took over, something about "appropriate facilities" ? Don't remember that initial comment being "we'll build it when you get into the prem" ? Perhaps I'm wrong ?

Yes you are wrong!
I think your rose tinted Bas glasses are still on.
He said they are going to build the east stand not the new owners.
It will get built i suspect but unlike Bas the new owners know what there doing

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
I understand their logic but have to say I'm disappointed. I thought this was one of the things they commented on when they took over, something about "appropriate facilities" ? Don't remember that initial comment being "we'll build it when you get into the prem" ? Perhaps I'm wrong ?

Yes you are wrong!
I think your rose tinted Bas glasses are still on.
He said they are going to build the east stand not the new owners.
It will get built i suspect but unlike Bas the new owners know what there doing

Mr B, you are obsessed with the man !! No-one else mentions him but you can't get him out of your head. We have new owners now. He's gone. keep up.

garston tony wrote:
No point having a new stand if its at the expense of the team, its putting the cart before the horse as Southampton amongst others found out.

mrbankrupt wrote:

COGGDAVE1 wrote: hmmm ..so lets see .. been here just over a week and already selling our best player ... no ground improvements in foreseeable future ... but lots of nice talk though Even Barmy Bas wouldn't sell Mapps ..in Jan or recently ...and he sorted out the pitch ... Now I don't want to sound pessimistic..but the only ones with rose tinted glasses on are the new clappers ... 'bancrupt' and his little mates. My excitement and pleasure of getting rid of barmy baz and replacing him with the new owners is just starting to wilt.. just a little

i think the only thing wilting is your brain.(if you have one that is) Bas is gone forever get over it. if you and the clappers dont like it dont go to the games you wont be missed

Terry Dactile wrote:
I know you are not allowed to make any negative comments on here now or the trolls will spit their dummys out. But I will let them spit their dummys out. The main stand is a disgrace and needs sorting asap. It is all very well saying the Rous is like a library which is the Rookery and vicarage road stands were full of mutes as well. I went to quite a few away games last season and our atmosphere is far worse than anywhere else and we should as fans be ashamed of ourselves. The only factor that mitigates this is that we have an ancient ruin of one side of the ground that has a major effect on the atmosphere. If we want a successful team we need a good atmosphere, without a new stand and the awakening of the living dead, the atmosphere will not improve and the team will suffer. It's a priority, though before anyone states the obvious it wouldn't have happened under the previous regime.

Harrydownunder wrote:

buckler wrote:
What no new stand named after the great Bassini, I'm amazed!

the great bassini - sounds like a magician

D.unstable wrote:
Just a little observation that a few keep having passing digs at the atmosphere from the Rous stand where I enjoy a great view every week. Rookery, you ain't no Kop at the moment and can barely be heard from the half way line.

The old standing Rookery could be heard in the town centre on a Saturday afternoon (with more than one song). It is my view that the Vic lost a lot of atmosphere the year they insisted on allocated seating.

So before you have a go at the Rous, where you still get passionate support all be it not singing as one, my message is 'could do better'

On the point of ground developments, agree that until we have the remote chance of selling out it is just cosmetic and would rather concentrate on putting a decent squad together.

Anyone know if Bassini will be putting the other big screen that he had paid the deposit on into the Red Lion?

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny wrote:
Makes perfect sense. Just hope it is sooner rather than later.

Mariappa has gone then. Massive shame, wish him well though. Just hope we got a decent fee and can find a quality young replacement. Mirfin is not the answer!!!

buckler wrote:

D.unstable wrote:
Just a little observation that a few keep having passing digs at the atmosphere from the Rous stand where I enjoy a great view every week. Rookery, you ain't no Kop at the moment and can barely be heard from the half way line.

The old standing Rookery could be heard in the town centre on a Saturday afternoon (with more than one song). It is my view that the Vic lost a lot of atmosphere the year they insisted on allocated seating.

So before you have a go at the Rous, where you still get passionate support all be it not singing as one, my message is 'could do better'

On the point of ground developments, agree that until we have the remote chance of selling out it is just cosmetic and would rather concentrate on putting a decent squad together.

Anyone know if Bassini will be putting the other big screen that he had paid the deposit on into the Red Lion?

Very true old chap, is this a first us agreeing on something? Must be the italian influence .

corbindallas wrote:
If only we could get our vocal away support atmosphere back into our stadium, if we can do it away why not at home, seriously we out sung QPR at their ground and put to bed their sombrerro man! Micky Quinn your right they did say they would improve the infastructure in their opening statement, now a bit of back tracking me thinks, but happy as I said the team first the stadium second, much to the annoyance of the anti Bas crowd at the time! As for crowds of 23,000 when in the Prem last time even though we were capped at 22000 we did not achieve that often 18,000 is more a realistic target for us? Will need to bring some decent players in to start achieving anything anyhow!

mrbankrupt wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
If only we could get our vocal away support atmosphere back into our stadium, if we can do it away why not at home, seriously we out sung QPR at their ground and put to bed their sombrerro man! Micky Quinn your right they did say they would improve the infastructure in their opening statement, now a bit of back tracking me thinks, but happy as I said the team first the stadium second, much to the annoyance of the anti Bas crowd at the time! As for crowds of 23,000 when in the Prem last time even though we were capped at 22000 we did not achieve that often 18,000 is more a realistic target for us? Will need to bring some decent players in to start achieving anything anyhow!

I remember getting 19,000(i think) v southend in Div4.
So to say we can't achieve 20,000+ if we get to the prem is bull.
Also instead of having a pathetic dig at Zola & the possso's perhaps inspector clouseau you should of done your detective wok on bankrupt Bas

corbindallas wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
If only we could get our vocal away support atmosphere back into our stadium, if we can do it away why not at home, seriously we out sung QPR at their ground and put to bed their sombrerro man! Micky Quinn your right they did say they would improve the infastructure in their opening statement, now a bit of back tracking me thinks, but happy as I said the team first the stadium second, much to the annoyance of the anti Bas crowd at the time! As for crowds of 23,000 when in the Prem last time even though we were capped at 22000 we did not achieve that often 18,000 is more a realistic target for us? Will need to bring some decent players in to start achieving anything anyhow!

I remember getting 19,000(i think) v southend in Div4.
So to say we can't achieve 20,000+ if we get to the prem is bull.
Also instead of having a pathetic dig at Zola & the possso's perhaps inspector clouseau you should of done your detective wok on bankrupt Bas

I am doing detective work right now on you!

mrbankrupt wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
If only we could get our vocal away support atmosphere back into our stadium, if we can do it away why not at home, seriously we out sung QPR at their ground and put to bed their sombrerro man! Micky Quinn your right they did say they would improve the infastructure in their opening statement, now a bit of back tracking me thinks, but happy as I said the team first the stadium second, much to the annoyance of the anti Bas crowd at the time! As for crowds of 23,000 when in the Prem last time even though we were capped at 22000 we did not achieve that often 18,000 is more a realistic target for us? Will need to bring some decent players in to start achieving anything anyhow!

I remember getting 19,000(i think) v southend in Div4.
So to say we can't achieve 20,000+ if we get to the prem is bull.
Also instead of having a pathetic dig at Zola & the possso's perhaps inspector clouseau you should of done your detective wok on bankrupt Bas