Takeover of Watford is 'imminent' (From This Is Local London)

Alfiesballs wrote:
Not getting excited until they have signed on the dotted line. They said this before and it lead & lead me to have a premature "incident" due to Bas then sticking his oar in.

AngelHornet wrote:
Good news, but will there be a role for SD?

Murder in the Vicarage wrote:
I am starting a campaign to get a statue of Lord Bazz erected outside the ground, in honour of all the hard work he has done, for the club, the town and football in general. Who's willing to contribute? Think £50 for each supporter should do it!

D.unstable wrote:

Murder in the Vicarage wrote:
I am starting a campaign to get a statue of Lord Bazz erected outside the ground, in honour of all the hard work he has done, for the club, the town and football in general. Who's willing to contribute? Think £50 for each supporter should do it!

Will it be a 10ft high bronze statue of him wearing the red hard hat? Would be good to put it opposite the entrance for the Red Lion and re-name it 'The spoilt brat'

strummerjoe wrote:
I hope all of those saying 'if Dyche has to go, a shame, but so be it' will now be reconsidering their views on McPie and Todgers. Make hay while the sun shines, because loyalty is a 2-way thing.

Frankie Frazer wrote:
Comment by Baz n the WFC site !
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I just want to see the takeover happen now! but have to say i agree with him on some points! the club is in a far better place then when he took over when we faced administration, Baz is just far too erratic to run a football club IMO !!!!

Eastsussexhornet wrote:

AngelHornet wrote:
Good news, but will there be a role for SD?

Just what I was thinking. Frankly, whilst he had some iffy moments in the early part of last season, I think he did a good job. I don't think Watford is a team which benefits much from high profile managers. We need the "nuts and bolts" style. We suffered at the hands of one before but I suppose this one has some pedigree. Most of all, I feel sorry for Sean.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

strummerjoe wrote: I hope all of those saying 'if Dyche has to go, a shame, but so be it' will now be reconsidering their views on McPie and Todgers. Make hay while the sun shines, because loyalty is a 2-way thing.

Agree - if SD had left this summer, for say the Birmingham job, he would have been slaughtered on this forum. Now he may be out of a job, albeit with a payoff. Perhaps he could work with Zola ? Can't really see it.

a1derek wrote:
Do like Zola and thought he did a decent job at West Ham, but...if Zola is to be installed as manager it is extremely harsh on Sean Dyche. I welcome the stability and resources Pozzo's bring without doubt, but would really like to see Dyche retained. I was certainly one of Dyche's critics early last season, but he turned things around superbly and obviously has a united dressing room behind him. There is an awful lot to be said for having an environment where the players "play" for the manager and I think it would be folly to dispense with that.

Frankie Frazer wrote:
Comment by Baz n the WFC site !
http://mobile.watfor

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I just want to see the takeover happen now! but have to say i agree with him on some points! the club is in a far better place then when he took over when we faced administration, Baz is just far too erratic to run a football club IMO !!!!

jasonwatford wrote:
Statement on wfc website from Bas...looks like it all over now..what would make my day now for watford observer to give bas Buckler and Mr Bankrupt details so he can sue them for all the comments they made about him on this site as they have been doing all these comments !!! If Zola is put in charge i expect to see loads of players leave and loads to come in as we dont have the players to play his way of playing. Shame for John Eustace etc.

Frankie Frazer wrote:
Comment by Baz n the WFC site !
http://mobile.watfor

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I just want to see the takeover happen now! but have to say i agree with him on some points! the club is in a far better place then when he took over when we faced administration, Baz is just far too erratic to run a football club IMO !!!!

Casterbridge wrote:
Whatever his shortcomings in the PR department, Baz saved the club from administration and probably relegation, and delivered on all of his promises that were in his power.

As far as SD is concerned, I hope it will be evolution, not revolution. With a decent pitch, the squad we have can play expansive football (as they did last season away from home), so I would not take it for granted that SD and GZ would be incompatible.

Dr Johnny Fever wrote:
Zola's record as West Ham manager is one of the worst in the club's history. His team won just 23 of the 80 games under his charge, a win ratio of 29 per cent, I hope we don't get him as Manager.

a1derek wrote:
Do like Zola and thought he did a decent job at West Ham, but...if Zola is to be installed as manager it is extremely harsh on Sean Dyche. I welcome the stability and resources Pozzo's bring without doubt, but would really like to see Dyche retained. I was certainly one of Dyche's critics early last season, but he turned things around superbly and obviously has a united dressing room behind him. There is an awful lot to be said for having an environment where the players "play" for the manager and I think it would be folly to dispense with that.

jasonwatford wrote:
Lutondown - i get knocked down but i get up again !!! I wouldnt run away with the idea of everything happening quickly to be honest. I think too much change in one go is not a good thing.

Murder in the Vicarage wrote:
I am starting a campaign to get a statue of Lord Bazz erected outside the ground, in honour of all the hard work he has done, for the club, the town and football in general.

Who's willing to contribute? Think £50 for each supporter should do it!

jasonwatford wrote:
Statement on wfc website from Bas...looks like it all over now..what would make my day now for watford observer to give bas Buckler and Mr Bankrupt details so he can sue them for all the comments they made about him on this site as they have been doing all these comments !!! If Zola is put in charge i expect to see loads of players leave and loads to come in as we dont have the players to play his way of playing. Shame for John Eustace etc.

akureyri wrote:
A few thoughts.

I believe Bas IS Buckler AND Mr Bankrupt, to make us feel sorry for him.

If there was a Bas statue I think Happy Eggs would sell many eggs in the club shop and farmers market.

Before the Pozzos do anything else when hte take over finally passes, can they organise a special trainer for Scott Loach to teach him about domination of his area.

Goldenboy1960 wrote:
Who realises that Scott Duxbury who is allegedly coming in as Director of Football was responsible for mis leading the Premier League over the signing of Carlos Tevez at West Ham? That cost West ham in excess of £30M. Got to admit my concern for our club.

Roger Joslyn wrote:
Did Baz save the club from administration? I thought the good Lord did that. Also he says he put millions into the club but surely he got that back ala Danny Graham, Will Buckley, Marvin Sordell, Ashley Young sell-on fee and the Saracens pay as you play even considering the annual loss the club makes. It seems the good Lord has saved us again by pushing through this sale without needing Baz.

Those of you who think that we will have pots of money to buy players need to calm down. From what the Udinese and Granada fans are saying it seems progression will be done on a budget with loan players in from the other two teams and jewels in the rough through their scounting network. There's reports of the Pozzos investing 20Mil Euros (I think), that's what, £16M? - So £7.5M to pay off the bond holders. The rest on the East stand and SW corner?

I think it would make sense to keep the continuity with SD as Manager. He's the architech of the "togetherness" that has seen us punch above our weight last season. Anyway, exciting times. COYH.

mrbankrupt wrote:

Roger Joslyn wrote:
Did Baz save the club from administration? I thought the good Lord did that. Also he says he put millions into the club but surely he got that back ala Danny Graham, Will Buckley, Marvin Sordell, Ashley Young sell-on fee and the Saracens pay as you play even considering the annual loss the club makes. It seems the good Lord has saved us again by pushing through this sale without needing Baz.

Those of you who think that we will have pots of money to buy players need to calm down. From what the Udinese and Granada fans are saying it seems progression will be done on a budget with loan players in from the other two teams and jewels in the rough through their scounting network. There's reports of the Pozzos investing 20Mil Euros (I think), that's what, £16M? - So £7.5M to pay off the bond holders. The rest on the East stand and SW corner?

I think it would make sense to keep the continuity with SD as Manager. He's the architech of the "togetherness" that has seen us punch above our weight last season. Anyway, exciting times. COYH.

well said Roger

mrbankrupt wrote:

Roger Joslyn wrote:
Did Baz save the club from administration? I thought the good Lord did that. Also he says he put millions into the club but surely he got that back ala Danny Graham, Will Buckley, Marvin Sordell, Ashley Young sell-on fee and the Saracens pay as you play even considering the annual loss the club makes. It seems the good Lord has saved us again by pushing through this sale without needing Baz.

Those of you who think that we will have pots of money to buy players need to calm down. From what the Udinese and Granada fans are saying it seems progression will be done on a budget with loan players in from the other two teams and jewels in the rough through their scounting network. There's reports of the Pozzos investing 20Mil Euros (I think), that's what, £16M? - So £7.5M to pay off the bond holders. The rest on the East stand and SW corner?

I think it would make sense to keep the continuity with SD as Manager. He's the architech of the "togetherness" that has seen us punch above our weight last season. Anyway, exciting times. COYH.

well said Roger

mrbankrupt wrote:

Roger Joslyn wrote:
Did Baz save the club from administration? I thought the good Lord did that. Also he says he put millions into the club but surely he got that back ala Danny Graham, Will Buckley, Marvin Sordell, Ashley Young sell-on fee and the Saracens pay as you play even considering the annual loss the club makes. It seems the good Lord has saved us again by pushing through this sale without needing Baz.

Those of you who think that we will have pots of money to buy players need to calm down. From what the Udinese and Granada fans are saying it seems progression will be done on a budget with loan players in from the other two teams and jewels in the rough through their scounting network. There's reports of the Pozzos investing 20Mil Euros (I think), that's what, £16M? - So £7.5M to pay off the bond holders. The rest on the East stand and SW corner?

I think it would make sense to keep the continuity with SD as Manager. He's the architech of the "togetherness" that has seen us punch above our weight last season. Anyway, exciting times. COYH.

well said Roger

lutondown wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

Roger Joslyn wrote:
Did Baz save the club from administration? I thought the good Lord did that. Also he says he put millions into the club but surely he got that back ala Danny Graham, Will Buckley, Marvin Sordell, Ashley Young sell-on fee and the Saracens pay as you play even considering the annual loss the club makes. It seems the good Lord has saved us again by pushing through this sale without needing Baz.

Those of you who think that we will have pots of money to buy players need to calm down. From what the Udinese and Granada fans are saying it seems progression will be done on a budget with loan players in from the other two teams and jewels in the rough through their scounting network. There's reports of the Pozzos investing 20Mil Euros (I think), that's what, £16M? - So £7.5M to pay off the bond holders. The rest on the East stand and SW corner?

I think it would make sense to keep the continuity with SD as Manager. He's the architech of the "togetherness" that has seen us punch above our weight last season. Anyway, exciting times. COYH.

well said Roger

Josh the bosh, good retort to the Bassettes who are grimly hanging on to how wonderful he is.
As for pots of money, I would rather see sustainable blueprints than those of a Chelsea or Mancy City, what I do want is that chance to compete, and a bit more than the perennial struggle.
I think you have hit the fiscal nail on the head.
Joslyn, a legend.

Murder in the Vicarage wrote:
I am starting a campaign to get a statue of Lord Bazz erected outside the ground, in honour of all the hard work he has done, for the club, the town and football in general.

Who's willing to contribute? Think £50 for each supporter should do it!

watmall wrote:
You have to sometimes wonder about this national game of ours. MM walks out on us, SD steps in. Understanderbly people arn't sure if hes the right man; however without any money he gets us up to 11th in the table. When MM walked out a lot of supporters of football rant'ed and raved about no loyalty in the game and people were asking/ saying I wish someone would say I'm staying (loyalty) . We then have SD standing up and saying I'm Loyal, I'm staying. Well fair play to him, but was he foolish?. Why can't we as fans stand up and say we want SD to stay, give him a chance (loyalty works both ways). or is this a case of..... Hello anyone there! .. Hello, can you hear me..............

watmall wrote:
You have to sometimes wonder about this national game of ours. MM walks out on us, SD steps in. Understanderbly people arn't sure if hes the right man; however without any money he gets us up to 11th in the table. When MM walked out a lot of supporters of football rant'ed and raved about no loyalty in the game and people were asking/ saying I wish someone would say I'm staying (loyalty) . We then have SD standing up and saying I'm Loyal, I'm staying. Well fair play to him, but was he foolish?. Why can't we as fans stand up and say we want SD to stay, give him a chance (loyalty works both ways). or is this a case of..... Hello anyone there! .. Hello, can you hear me..............

Murder in the Vicarage wrote:
I am starting a campaign to get a statue of Lord Bazz erected outside the ground, in honour of all the hard work he has done, for the club, the town and football in general.

Who's willing to contribute? Think £50 for each supporter should do it!

Henry VIII wrote:
As much as I welcome some financial investment in the club I have serious reservations about changing SD and the backroom staff. He knows the squad, the squad (many of them young) know him and there is obviously a ton of respect on all sides. I did think it odd the other week when SD announced other opportunities and talk of loyalty. I agree with those on here who cannot fathom how some can simply say thanks SD no move on, the man really stepped up last season and should be rewarded for those past efforts. I remember all too clearly the buzz when VIalli came, the opening 3-0 defeat to Keegans Man City on opening day, and the largely assembled squad of very average players who helped achieve very little. The Vialli's army era was a very bad time for all concerned so I just hope that we keepsome structure to our club, however I fear not and that the money, the choices made will be for a regime change and then, just like last season, we are faced with a few what if scenarios. A big name manager (and that is what Zola is) does not guarantee success, it may get bigger names to sign but this is one tough division as we all know. I only hope that the Pozzo's have thought all of this through and are open enough to suggestion to keep with SD.

Henry VIII wrote:
As much as I welcome some financial investment in the club I have serious reservations about changing SD and the backroom staff. He knows the squad, the squad (many of them young) know him and there is obviously a ton of respect on all sides. I did think it odd the other week when SD announced other opportunities and talk of loyalty. I agree with those on here who cannot fathom how some can simply say thanks SD no move on, the man really stepped up last season and should be rewarded for those past efforts. I remember all too clearly the buzz when VIalli came, the opening 3-0 defeat to Keegans Man City on opening day, and the largely assembled squad of very average players who helped achieve very little. The Vialli's army era was a very bad time for all concerned so I just hope that we keepsome structure to our club, however I fear not and that the money, the choices made will be for a regime change and then, just like last season, we are faced with a few what if scenarios. A big name manager (and that is what Zola is) does not guarantee success, it may get bigger names to sign but this is one tough division as we all know. I only hope that the Pozzo's have thought all of this through and are open enough to suggestion to keep with SD.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
i know these guys have money but their key priorities next season will be to keep Udinese in the champs league and keep Granada in la liga. Getting us promoted will be behind these 2, and splashing out on expensive signings is not their style. Financial stability, yes, but talk of certain promotion challenge is premature. Can't wait to hear their opening press announcements re strategy and structure

Wembley84 wrote:
"When I arrived at the club it was facing administration and I put in several millions to keep the club going." I'd like to see the real hard evidence of that - all we get is spin.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
i know these guys have money but their key priorities next season will be to keep Udinese in the champs league and keep Granada in la liga. Getting us promoted will be behind these 2, and splashing out on expensive signings is not their style. Financial stability, yes, but talk of certain promotion challenge is premature. Can't wait to hear their opening press announcements re strategy and structure

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
i know these guys have money but their key priorities next season will be to keep Udinese in the champs league and keep Granada in la liga. Getting us promoted will be behind these 2, and splashing out on expensive signings is not their style. Financial stability, yes, but talk of certain promotion challenge is premature. Can't wait to hear their opening press announcements re strategy and structure

tonupchris wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
i know these guys have money but their key priorities next season will be to keep Udinese in the champs league and keep Granada in la liga. Getting us promoted will be behind these 2, and splashing out on expensive signings is not their style. Financial stability, yes, but talk of certain promotion challenge is premature. Can't wait to hear their opening press announcements re strategy and structure

You maybe right but these guys do like to make a profit and the best way to do this is be in the Premier League. The money you get from this far exceeds what you get in Italy or Spain unless you are one of the big teams which neither Udinese (despite finishing 3rd) or Granada are. In Spain most of the tv rights are owned by Barcelona and Real Madrid. I don't believe that we'll be third in the pecking order but your probably right in the fact that they won't throw money around either. A few loans and maybe a signing or two and we will have a chance.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

tonupchris wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
i know these guys have money but their key priorities next season will be to keep Udinese in the champs league and keep Granada in la liga. Getting us promoted will be behind these 2, and splashing out on expensive signings is not their style. Financial stability, yes, but talk of certain promotion challenge is premature. Can't wait to hear their opening press announcements re strategy and structure

You maybe right but these guys do like to make a profit and the best way to do this is be in the Premier League. The money you get from this far exceeds what you get in Italy or Spain unless you are one of the big teams which neither Udinese (despite finishing 3rd) or Granada are. In Spain most of the tv rights are owned by Barcelona and Real Madrid. I don't believe that we'll be third in the pecking order but your probably right in the fact that they won't throw money around either. A few loans and maybe a signing or two and we will have a chance.

Ton up & IGTWT - I take your points but given the money that is being thrown around by some in this league (ex prems + cardiff, Leicester etc) I expect we will still be out-spent by a number of other clubs. Not sure 2nd league in Spain has this. So to expect us to be top or near top may be unrealistic. Top half and aiming for the playoffs is more realistic, not that we shouldn't target being top of course ! As I say, it will be very ineresting to see what their stated strategy and expectations are, ......and then how it pans out.

dmuz wrote:
an interesting read if you haven't done so already

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Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

tonupchris wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
i know these guys have money but their key priorities next season will be to keep Udinese in the champs league and keep Granada in la liga. Getting us promoted will be behind these 2, and splashing out on expensive signings is not their style. Financial stability, yes, but talk of certain promotion challenge is premature. Can't wait to hear their opening press announcements re strategy and structure

You maybe right but these guys do like to make a profit and the best way to do this is be in the Premier League. The money you get from this far exceeds what you get in Italy or Spain unless you are one of the big teams which neither Udinese (despite finishing 3rd) or Granada are. In Spain most of the tv rights are owned by Barcelona and Real Madrid. I don't believe that we'll be third in the pecking order but your probably right in the fact that they won't throw money around either. A few loans and maybe a signing or two and we will have a chance.

Ton up & IGTWT - I take your points but given the money that is being thrown around by some in this league (ex prems + cardiff, Leicester etc) I expect we will still be out-spent by a number of other clubs. Not sure 2nd league in Spain has this. So to expect us to be top or near top may be unrealistic. Top half and aiming for the playoffs is more realistic, not that we shouldn't target being top of course ! As I say, it will be very ineresting to see what their stated strategy and expectations are, ......and then how it pans out.

D.unstable wrote:
Come on, let's be aving you!!! said a pist celebrity cook/chairwoman.....

this suspence is killing me.

tonupchris wrote:

Goldenboy1960 wrote: Who realises that Scott Duxbury who is allegedly coming in as Director of Football was responsible for mis leading the Premier League over the signing of Carlos Tevez at West Ham? That cost West ham in excess of £30M. Got to admit my concern for our club.

For the love of god we can't win. Who do you want to come in? Mother Superior. I can't believe there is a negative to come out of this.

Sammy Chung wrote:
Pre-match entertainment, Buckler and Deeney in the centre circle- they sound about the same "stamp".

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

D.unstable wrote: Come on, let's be aving you!!! said a pist celebrity cook/chairwoman..... this suspence is killing me.

what's the betting the next update will be that deal completion is "literally seconds away".....

D.unstable wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

D.unstable wrote: Come on, let's be aving you!!! said a pist celebrity cook/chairwoman..... this suspence is killing me.

what's the betting the next update will be that deal completion is "literally seconds away".....

Just heard that Stuart Timperly has come out of the building to look for a pen in his car, should be a done deal as soon as he finds it....anouncement within the hour.

Grazie mille Bassini...

Goldenboy1960 wrote:

tonupchris wrote:

Goldenboy1960 wrote: Who realises that Scott Duxbury who is allegedly coming in as Director of Football was responsible for mis leading the Premier League over the signing of Carlos Tevez at West Ham? That cost West ham in excess of £30M. Got to admit my concern for our club.

For the love of god we can't win. Who do you want to come in? Mother Superior. I can't believe there is a negative to come out of this.

When are people going to learn through past experiences. Chasing a rainbow will not bring success only heartache. We have seen it before and we shoud be better prepared and guarded. In that chase be very careful who you invite on Board. And seriously do you honestly think they care a Monkey about SD.

In order to succeed you must fail, so that you know what not to do the next time

Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value

As you climb the ladder of success, be sure it's leaning against the right building

Success is more permanent when you achieve it without destroying your principles

Pray that success will not come any faster than you are able to endure it.

Goldenboy1960 wrote:

tonupchris wrote:

Goldenboy1960 wrote: Who realises that Scott Duxbury who is allegedly coming in as Director of Football was responsible for mis leading the Premier League over the signing of Carlos Tevez at West Ham? That cost West ham in excess of £30M. Got to admit my concern for our club.

For the love of god we can't win. Who do you want to come in? Mother Superior. I can't believe there is a negative to come out of this.

When are people going to learn through past experiences. Chasing a rainbow will not bring success only heartache. We have seen it before and we shoud be better prepared and guarded. In that chase be very careful who you invite on Board. And seriously do you honestly think they care a Monkey about SD.

In order to succeed you must fail, so that you know what not to do the next time

Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value

As you climb the ladder of success, be sure it's leaning against the right building

Success is more permanent when you achieve it without destroying your principles

Pray that success will not come any faster than you are able to endure it.

Chris the Vic wrote:
And looking at Zola's career as a manager he is ermmmm Italian.

Sean should stay and Zola come in as a consultant/adviser/i

nterpreter. If it is really thought necessary.

southernhornet wrote:
I don't want Zola. His record as West Ham manager is poor. People need to make sure they are not blinded by the glitz or Zola as a player. His record as a manager at this point is poor.

I don't want the Nani guy either - I am really excited about what the Pozzos will bring to the club but that excitement will be diluted if we start to see some of our good people having to leave and Italians coming in.

D.unstable wrote:

southernhornet wrote:
I don't want Zola. His record as West Ham manager is poor. People need to make sure they are not blinded by the glitz or Zola as a player. His record as a manager at this point is poor.

I don't want the Nani guy either - I am really excited about what the Pozzos will bring to the club but that excitement will be diluted if we start to see some of our good people having to leave and Italians coming in.

You cannot have it both ways. If they are to invest good money in to Watford they will want to ensure that they have their own people running the show and making the decisions. If you had a £10 bet you would want to make the decision on what it was on, not just give it to some guy who you do not know standing in the queue and accept the outcome.

I admire what Dyche did and hope that they find a role for him, but fear that we just have to hold on for the ride.

southernhornet wrote:
I don't want Zola. His record as West Ham manager is poor. People need to make sure they are not blinded by the glitz or Zola as a player. His record as a manager at this point is poor.

I don't want the Nani guy either - I am really excited about what the Pozzos will bring to the club but that excitement will be diluted if we start to see some of our good people having to leave and Italians coming in.