Bassini: 'I haven't had a penny out of Watford' (From This Is Local London)

The plot thickens. Yawn.

So why would a senior member of staff, refuse to give him the keys to the safe?

I would love to see proof of the 8 to 10 million he has put in to the club.
clearly he has been financing the club by selling all our best players.
if the bondholders allow him to take one penny from the club they need to be held accountable.

I would love to see proof of the 8 to 10 million he has put in to the club.
clearly he has been financing the club by selling all our best players.
if the bondholders allow him to take one penny from the club they need to be held accountable.

“In the contracts, wages need to be paid around the end of the month. They were paid on the 30th.”

Sorry but no contract would state that the wages will be paid around the end of the month. They were late. Been confirmed by people at the club. Lies lies lies.

Let me just get something straight, I want the Pozzo's to take over as soon as possible as there SEEMS to be something dodgy about Bas.

However, as I have said all along, until there is proof that he has done something bad I can only see that he has moved our club forward.

Obviously the transfer money has kept the club going, as it has done at 95% of the clubs in the league.

I think the £8-10 million could be inflated a little but as a loss making company I'm sure he has had to put in some money along the line (and I'm not talking just the £440K he purchased the club with).

He isn't as bad as previous owners, so I would expect a businessman to try to make money on a deal.

Forza Watford!!!!

p.s. Come on England.

"The money from the transfer account stays with the club". Hmm, i wonder how much is in there then, probably nothing. Why have 2 accounts? Sounds dodgy to me. If LB keeps the pub then can he at least reduce the prices of the beer!!

luther blissett wrote:
Let me just get something straight, I want the Pozzo's to take over as soon as possible as there SEEMS to be something dodgy about Bas.

However, as I have said all along, until there is proof that he has done something bad I can only see that he has moved our club forward.

Obviously the transfer money has kept the club going, as it has done at 95% of the clubs in the league.

I think the £8-10 million could be inflated a little but as a loss making company I'm sure he has had to put in some money along the line (and I'm not talking just the £440K he purchased the club with).

He isn't as bad as previous owners, so I would expect a businessman to try to make money on a deal.

Forza Watford!!!!

p.s. Come on England.

Cracking post!

McHornet wrote:

luther blissett wrote: Let me just get something straight, I want the Pozzo's to take over as soon as possible as there SEEMS to be something dodgy about Bas. However, as I have said all along, until there is proof that he has done something bad I can only see that he has moved our club forward. Obviously the transfer money has kept the club going, as it has done at 95% of the clubs in the league. I think the £8-10 million could be inflated a little but as a loss making company I'm sure he has had to put in some money along the line (and I'm not talking just the £440K he purchased the club with). He isn't as bad as previous owners, so I would expect a businessman to try to make money on a deal. Forza Watford!!!! p.s. Come on England.

Cracking post!

Agree, very sensible although my personal opinion is that LB isnt dodgy just naive.

Not Bazzini, as Luther has pointed out yes the club HAS been financed by selling players. As it would have if Lord A was still owner as it would have if the Russo's were still at the club. Whats shocking about that?

The 8-10mill probably includes payments to the bondholders too so considering what has been put into the club by previous owners just to keep it going it may be about right if a little inflated.

But ultimately even if he has taken money out of the club, which he states he hasnt and no one can actually prove otherwise, then as owner he'd have been perfectly entitled to! Unlike previous owners with far more money LB has started on improving the ground and pitch and has given money to improve the squad.

What an embarrassing man.

Bas, you really are a tool on every level.

"I am happy to lend the club a couple of million in the future".

Is that because you have run the club purely on the sale of its assets since you took it over?

The sooner this deal is done the better. I am delighted that a real football family is buying the club, but to be honest I would be happy even if Ronald McDonald was taking over from Bas.

One last word for BAS, should you be disclosing information about the deal at this stage? Are you sure you are not going to upset the Pozzo's by contravening any disclosure agreements? They didn't appear to be too happy with your recent "Deal is agreed in principle" press release.

Please don't foul this up and move aside as quickly as possible.

Perhaps our new owner will actually talk to the fans perhaps??? Or is that old fashioned these days?

luther blissett wrote:
Let me just get something straight, I want the Pozzo's to take over as soon as possible as there SEEMS to be something dodgy about Bas.

However, as I have said all along, until there is proof that he has done something bad I can only see that he has moved our club forward.

Obviously the transfer money has kept the club going, as it has done at 95% of the clubs in the league.

I think the £8-10 million could be inflated a little but as a loss making company I'm sure he has had to put in some money along the line (and I'm not talking just the £440K he purchased the club with).

He isn't as bad as previous owners, so I would expect a businessman to try to make money on a deal.

Forza Watford!!!!

p.s. Come on England.

I agree wholeheartedly with your post Luther, I just want this guy gone before everything goes pear shaped!!!

All these little snippets of information are , in my opinion, doing more damage to LB's reputation, and putting the takeover at risk, and therefore the future of our club.

LB did, without a doubt, save WFC from administration, but if this sale falls through he could also be the person that pushes it into administration if he runs out of money.

Supporters have been moaning about his lack of communication, and now we are getting communication that is not needed and damaging.

Does anyone else agree that he should stop running to the press with these pointless snippets of information until the deal is done?

I also think it's going to go pear-shaped - taking too long, no progress seemingly being made, nothing concrete coming out of the Pozzo camp, Baz keeps leaking details of the deal. Doom, gloom!!!

The Rover wrote:
All these little snippets of information are , in my opinion, doing more damage to LB's reputation, and putting the takeover at risk, and therefore the future of our club.

LB did, without a doubt, save WFC from administration, but if this sale falls through he could also be the person that pushes it into administration if he runs out of money.

Supporters have been moaning about his lack of communication, and now we are getting communication that is not needed and damaging.

Does anyone else agree that he should stop running to the press with these pointless snippets of information until the deal is done?

Agreed. Deals of this magnitude are not normally public knowledge until its all approved and usually have some kind of disclosure agreement around them.
From the Pozzo reaction (on Udinese website) about Bas's comments "Deal agreed in principle" they were not happy.
This latest press release is not going to help matters.

Just GO Bas - quickly......

There's obviously been a major issue behind the scenes - wonder what ? He's right that he has legal right to the keys but what was he planning to do that caused the employee to refuse ??

Most contracts of employment state something vague along the lines of payment "before the end of the month" and then companies adopt a process that fits within that, eg the last Friday in the month. I guess the usual payment date wasn't met but they were paid within contract.

Anyone else concerned that the Pozzos originally wanted to leave the bondholders in place? Why? Surely if you are rolling in €€s you'd pay the few £m to get them out of the picture ? Why are they joined by other local investors if they are so rich ?

misread the article, the bond would be with Bas not Lord A etc, but again why not just pay him off in one go ?

I would guess Mickey Quinn that they'd not want to pay off Bas in one go in case there's something hidden that comes to light over the next 12 / 18 months.

You'd not want to pay him X million now only to find that there's another black hole suddenly appear that he hadn't disclosed.

Harrydownunder, most clubs are run on the sale of assets! The Russo's sold assets to keep the club going, and Lord A if he had stuck around would have happily sold players (including AM even at a knock down price) if it meant him not getting his own wallet out.

If the outgoings are anywhere near what they were when the Russo's were around then the player sales wouldn’t have covered outgoings either so money has had to be put into the club on top of that, even more if you include the pitch etc.

Why are you knocking LB for something that is the way of life for the majority of clubs? The new financial rules mean that owners will no longer just be able to pump money into a club, so don’t expect that from the Pozzo's, and the reality is what has happened at WFC over the past three or so years puts it in a better position than many bigger clubs.

I aso doubt if the potential new owners are serious a few little snippets of information from LB are going to put them off. What do they care?

Iveco76 wrote:
I would guess Mickey Quinn that they'd not want to pay off Bas in one go in case there's something hidden that comes to light over the next 12 / 18 months.

You'd not want to pay him X million now only to find that there's another black hole suddenly appear that he hadn't disclosed.

well maybe though this would normally be covered off by the sale agreement warranties anyway....I'm probably just being paranoid !

garston tony wrote:
Harrydownunder, most clubs are run on the sale of assets! The Russo's sold assets to keep the club going, and Lord A if he had stuck around would have happily sold players (including AM even at a knock down price) if it meant him not getting his own wallet out.

If the outgoings are anywhere near what they were when the Russo's were around then the player sales wouldn’t have covered outgoings either so money has had to be put into the club on top of that, even more if you include the pitch etc.

Why are you knocking LB for something that is the way of life for the majority of clubs? The new financial rules mean that owners will no longer just be able to pump money into a club, so don’t expect that from the Pozzo's, and the reality is what has happened at WFC over the past three or so years puts it in a better position than many bigger clubs.

I aso doubt if the potential new owners are serious a few little snippets of information from LB are going to put them off. What do they care?

Nice to see somebody who says something sensible rather than just jump on the bash bas train. Why would Bas want to talk to people who constantly abuse him without any knowledge of the facts. We will sell players in the future to keep us going as that is precisely what the Pozzo's do and what most clubs do as well. I welcome this takeover not because I think Bas has done anything wrong but that I think he's taken us as far as he can and these new guys have a proven track record involving football clubs, albeit with a couple indiscretions thrown in.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Iveco76 wrote:
I would guess Mickey Quinn that they'd not want to pay off Bas in one go in case there's something hidden that comes to light over the next 12 / 18 months.

You'd not want to pay him X million now only to find that there's another black hole suddenly appear that he hadn't disclosed.

well maybe though this would normally be covered off by the sale agreement warranties anyway....I'm probably just being paranoid !

Unless he happened to declare himself bankrupt again

Bassini keeps the holding company and nobody believes he's been linked to the Pozzo's from the start! .... proof positive as far as I'm concerned and good reason why GT was so quiet about Baz's appointment.

haha no wonder he was so keen to get the pub finished on time. If he does get to keep it, let's make sure it's away fans only.

Bye bye, Happy Egg.

I can't quite believe that so many people are so happy about the Pub!?

From what I can work out, he spent over £500k of Watford FC's on refurbishing a pub? So that £500k+ goes in to the coffers of Yellow and Red Lion Ltd (his company) whilst the club continues to struggle paying it's bills.

I dread to think how much money was siphoned off this way and my guess is that the Yellow and Red Lion will not file it's first year accounts / will go bankrupt.

But please, let's not congratulate him on the pub, he used it as a vehicle to take a lot of money out of the club as far as I can see.

I can't quite believe that so many people are so happy about the Pub!?

From what I can work out, he spent over £500k of Watford FC's on refurbishing a pub? So that £500k+ goes in to the coffers of Yellow and Red Lion Ltd (his company) whilst the club continues to struggle paying it's bills.

I dread to think how much money was siphoned off this way and my guess is that the Yellow and Red Lion will not file it's first year accounts / will go bankrupt.

But please, let's not congratulate him on the pub, he used it as a vehicle to take a lot of money out of the club as far as I can see.

Iveco76 wrote:
I can't quite believe that so many people are so happy about the Pub!?

From what I can work out, he spent over £500k of Watford FC's on refurbishing a pub? So that £500k+ goes in to the coffers of Yellow and Red Lion Ltd (his company) whilst the club continues to struggle paying it's bills.

I dread to think how much money was siphoned off this way and my guess is that the Yellow and Red Lion will not file it's first year accounts / will go bankrupt.

But please, let's not congratulate him on the pub, he used it as a vehicle to take a lot of money out of the club as far as I can see.

Bingo

Get off Bassini's back he is the most honest & wealthy chairman we have ever had.
I think the Graham Taylor stand and the SW corner are things of beauty

Bringe wrote:
Bassini keeps the holding company and nobody believes he's been linked to the Pozzo's from the start! .... proof positive as far as I'm concerned and good reason why GT was so quiet about Baz's appointment.

Not an issue at all with the holding co staying with Bas, as long as there's nothing still owned by it. The holding co will sell the subsidiary owning wfc to the Pozzos, Bas will rename it and then do something else with it. No need for the Pozzos to buy this.

Re the pub, he claims £500k of his own money was invested which is owed by wfc to him. This should be easy to prove. What value is the pub per the valuers ? Bit odd if it just happens to £500k so its given to him to pay off the debt !! This would mean either it had no value before he spent £500k, or that spending £500k was a waste of money as it didn't add £500k to its value. If value is more than £500k, he must pay the extra to wfc. Directors cannot just let a company sell an asset for less than its worth, they have a fiduciary duty.

Iveco76 wrote:
I can't quite believe that so many people are so happy about the Pub!?

From what I can work out, he spent over £500k of Watford FC's on refurbishing a pub? So that £500k+ goes in to the coffers of Yellow and Red Lion Ltd (his company) whilst the club continues to struggle paying it's bills.

I dread to think how much money was siphoned off this way and my guess is that the Yellow and Red Lion will not file it's first year accounts / will go bankrupt.

But please, let's not congratulate him on the pub, he used it as a vehicle to take a lot of money out of the club as far as I can see.

He spent £500k of watfords money? Where does that information come from? He has used the pub to siphon off money from the club? You presumably have proof of this? This all complete guess work with nothing to back this up.
I'm not Bas's biggest fan but I still wait for somebody to produce some proof of what they're suggesting he's done. As for the safe, the employee had absolutely no right what so ever to refuse to hand over the keys an deserves everything he gets.

poor Bas, he can't win, if he says, nothing about the take over, you moan, your hearing nothing from him about the take over and if he does, you moan, he's saying too much.

Employees were upset further last month when their wages were not paid on the usual date and they were not informed of the delay until the day they expected to have the money in their accounts.

Bassini rejected the suggestion employees had been paid “late, stating: “In the contracts, wages need to be paid around the end of the month. They were paid on the 30th.”

Assuming staff had traditionally been paid on the last friday of each month, the last Friday in May was the 25th. By withholding salaries till the 30th employees would have gone a weekend and several days before money entered their accounts. This is would be appalling and contemptuous way to treat staff. The only surprising thing is that workers are 'split' on their opinion of Baz.

C'mon people, the club (i.e. Bassini) invested in practically nothing but infrastructure knowing there'd be an influx of young talent this summer ... loans, short contracts .... all tell-tale signs that the Pozzo's were already in control. Baz selling to spend more time with his daughter is a ruse, he's done his job, will collect the pub as payment and as far as I'm concerned he deserves it just for putting up with the carp he reads on here.

Forza Watford.

For heaven's sake over half the contributors do not read what is said, re-invent the facts with their own assumptions and write utter rubbish.

Make no mistake the damage was done to our club under a previous regime and the WFC staff who support ex chief execs who did not deal with the cash flows properly in previous years have a mis placed loyalty or more likely should not be in their jobs.

like Bringe and Luther have stated in different ways Bas may not be easy to trust but what he has done appears not to have been detrimental to the club and despite the so called assertions of fact by many it appears he has not done us any harm just good.

from what I can glean there was always Italian money somewhere in the background and if the deal does go through it may help with transparency in the future.

As for the Red Lion I do not think WFC has spent very much at all on this project and the initial cost seems to have been paid in, so if it goes but stays open we have a facility that has not been there for some time.

As for late wages, slow payment etc this is happening all over it is not pleasant whether you are well paid or poorly paid but it is part of the world we live in. yes it is appalling and contemptuous, just as paying your suppliers later is, or the banks behaviour etc but it is life even if it is not right.

For me as a chairman/owner I see nothing that indicates Bas has been worse than Homer, Rossi or Taylor and to date he has been more helpful and not taken a wage or apparently a penny. in no way is the aforegoing a reflection on anybody's integrity, nor their previous stints as manager...just in their most recent roles.

Said it from day 1 and will say it now the man is a liar, crook and a joke! Anyone backing him up is a friend of his or simply stupid! Apologies welcome and chanting of my name allowed!

Chris the Vic wrote:
For heaven's sake over half the contributors do not read what is said, re-invent the facts with their own assumptions and write utter rubbish.

Make no mistake the damage was done to our club under a previous regime and the WFC staff who support ex chief execs who did not deal with the cash flows properly in previous years have a mis placed loyalty or more likely should not be in their jobs.

like Bringe and Luther have stated in different ways Bas may not be easy to trust but what he has done appears not to have been detrimental to the club and despite the so called assertions of fact by many it appears he has not done us any harm just good.

from what I can glean there was always Italian money somewhere in the background and if the deal does go through it may help with transparency in the future.

As for the Red Lion I do not think WFC has spent very much at all on this project and the initial cost seems to have been paid in, so if it goes but stays open we have a facility that has not been there for some time.

As for late wages, slow payment etc this is happening all over it is not pleasant whether you are well paid or poorly paid but it is part of the world we live in. yes it is appalling and contemptuous, just as paying your suppliers later is, or the banks behaviour etc but it is life even if it is not right.

For me as a chairman/owner I see nothing that indicates Bas has been worse than Homer, Rossi or Taylor and to date he has been more helpful and not taken a wage or apparently a penny. in no way is the aforegoing a reflection on anybody's integrity, nor their previous stints as manager...just in their most recent roles.

think you need to get a life

Chris the Vic wrote:
For heaven's sake over half the contributors do not read what is said, re-invent the facts with their own assumptions and write utter rubbish.

Make no mistake the damage was done to our club under a previous regime and the WFC staff who support ex chief execs who did not deal with the cash flows properly in previous years have a mis placed loyalty or more likely should not be in their jobs.

like Bringe and Luther have stated in different ways Bas may not be easy to trust but what he has done appears not to have been detrimental to the club and despite the so called assertions of fact by many it appears he has not done us any harm just good.

from what I can glean there was always Italian money somewhere in the background and if the deal does go through it may help with transparency in the future.

As for the Red Lion I do not think WFC has spent very much at all on this project and the initial cost seems to have been paid in, so if it goes but stays open we have a facility that has not been there for some time.

As for late wages, slow payment etc this is happening all over it is not pleasant whether you are well paid or poorly paid but it is part of the world we live in. yes it is appalling and contemptuous, just as paying your suppliers later is, or the banks behaviour etc but it is life even if it is not right.

For me as a chairman/owner I see nothing that indicates Bas has been worse than Homer, Rossi or Taylor and to date he has been more helpful and not taken a wage or apparently a penny. in no way is the aforegoing a reflection on anybody's integrity, nor their previous stints as manager...just in their most recent roles.

Spot on

buckler wrote:
Said it from day 1 and will say it now the man is a liar, crook and a joke! Anyone backing him up is a friend of his or simply stupid! Apologies welcome and chanting of my name allowed!

Baz has looked after this club in face of vitriol, liable and just plain stupidity from the inane group of unhappy clappers on this forum. Those deluded creatures that ask for applause are just too insignificant for Baz to take legal action against unlike sky, must make them feel impotent.

If they are so sure of their libellous claims they should put them in the public domain and contact Baz to tell him they have done it. Can I hear weasel words coming from the unhappy clappers? I think so.

If the Pozzo family do take over they will have obviously ignored but most probably be oblivious to the vitriol spewed forth from the unhappy clappers on this forum.

You old Bucker meet me for a cup of coffee and a chat about life the universe and everything at the Gintas Gym Exchange Road or we could have a friendly workout.

Althoug buckler has come in with a late remark all is quiet from him and friends.
O-well, I can not wait to read their great moans about our proposed new owners.
I imagine they will have great insight in these owners as well

buckler wrote:
Said it from day 1 and will say it now the man is a liar, crook and a joke! Anyone backing him up is a friend of his or simply stupid! Apologies welcome and chanting of my name allowed!

Just because you repeat it and repeat it, doesn't make it right.

If you actually read my comment above, you will see what most fans believe.

Yes he is not perfect. Yes something doesn't seem right. Yes, we ALL want the Pozzo's to take over. But I still do not understand how you can deny that WFC is in a better state now than it was 14 months ago?

Now I expect you to say I am not welcome at the Vic or something as similarly stupid, but at the end of the day, we agree we want rid.

Forza Watford!!!

honest-view wrote:
Althoug buckler has come in with a late remark all is quiet from him and friends.
O-well, I can not wait to read their great moans about our proposed new owners.
I imagine they will have great insight in these owners as well

why cant you clappers admit you have been made to look stupid by Sir Bas the great.
The REAL fans new all along the man was a joke.
I think its best if listen to us a bit more instead of the getting jealous.

honest-view wrote:
Althoug buckler has come in with a late remark all is quiet from him and friends.
O-well, I can not wait to read their great moans about our proposed new owners.
I imagine they will have great insight in these owners as well

why cant you clappers admit you have been made to look stupid by Sir Bas the great.
The REAL fans new all along the man was a joke.
I think its best if listen to us a bit more instead of the getting jealous.

The Crimson Avenger wrote:

buckler wrote:
Said it from day 1 and will say it now the man is a liar, crook and a joke! Anyone backing him up is a friend of his or simply stupid! Apologies welcome and chanting of my name allowed!

Baz has looked after this club in face of vitriol, liable and just plain stupidity from the inane group of unhappy clappers on this forum. Those deluded creatures that ask for applause are just too insignificant for Baz to take legal action against unlike sky, must make them feel impotent.

If they are so sure of their libellous claims they should put them in the public domain and contact Baz to tell him they have done it. Can I hear weasel words coming from the unhappy clappers? I think so.

If the Pozzo family do take over they will have obviously ignored but most probably be oblivious to the vitriol spewed forth from the unhappy clappers on this forum.

You old Bucker meet me for a cup of coffee and a chat about life the universe and everything at the Gintas Gym Exchange Road or we could have a friendly workout.

Wow a real hard man who works out.
Gintas gym! run for your life Bucks

mrbankrupt wrote:
Get off Bassini's back he is the most honest & wealthy chairman we have ever had.
I think the Graham Taylor stand and the SW corner are things of beauty

I agree, so many whiners eh, sometimes i think i'm reading a West Ham blog!

Are some of our fans really that fickle, or maybe they are just trolls!

See you in the Red Lion!

COYH!

I think for me football owners (if they want to be viewed positively at least) need to fulfill the following criteria

1) Life long fan of the club
2) Have pots of cash
3) Have no connection to Brian Robson
4) Have never presented Breakfast TV
5) Be a national treasure with a massive back catalogue of Piano based rock classics
6) Not be from the Far East and prepared to change the club colours to pink and mauve in order to win a dodgy spread bet.

Baz is not a lifelong fan and the club have held their own but he comes across as an opportunist who got lucky. I think history will (hopefully) show he was better then Simpson, Petchey but worse than SEJ (and who could really be compared to him!).

mrbankrupt wrote:

The Crimson Avenger wrote:

buckler wrote: Said it from day 1 and will say it now the man is a liar, crook and a joke! Anyone backing him up is a friend of his or simply stupid! Apologies welcome and chanting of my name allowed!

Baz has looked after this club in face of vitriol, liable and just plain stupidity from the inane group of unhappy clappers on this forum. Those deluded creatures that ask for applause are just too insignificant for Baz to take legal action against unlike sky, must make them feel impotent. If they are so sure of their libellous claims they should put them in the public domain and contact Baz to tell him they have done it. Can I hear weasel words coming from the unhappy clappers? I think so. If the Pozzo family do take over they will have obviously ignored but most probably be oblivious to the vitriol spewed forth from the unhappy clappers on this forum. You old Bucker meet me for a cup of coffee and a chat about life the universe and everything at the Gintas Gym Exchange Road or we could have a friendly workout.

Wow a real hard man who works out. Gintas gym! run for your life Bucks

If you do not know the history don’t comment it just makes you look stupid.

Just for fun here is a unhappy clapper type comment. “he started it first”

luther blissett wrote:

buckler wrote:
Said it from day 1 and will say it now the man is a liar, crook and a joke! Anyone backing him up is a friend of his or simply stupid! Apologies welcome and chanting of my name allowed!

Just because you repeat it and repeat it, doesn't make it right.

If you actually read my comment above, you will see what most fans believe.

Yes he is not perfect. Yes something doesn't seem right. Yes, we ALL want the Pozzo's to take over. But I still do not understand how you can deny that WFC is in a better state now than it was 14 months ago?

Now I expect you to say I am not welcome at the Vic or something as similarly stupid, but at the end of the day, we agree we want rid.

Forza Watford!!!

good post with which all, bar about 3 on this forum, will agree. Bas has been ok for the club s far, but you do get the feeling something will go seriously wrong sooner or later if he stays as owner.

mrbankrupt wrote:

honest-view wrote:
Althoug buckler has come in with a late remark all is quiet from him and friends.
O-well, I can not wait to read their great moans about our proposed new owners.
I imagine they will have great insight in these owners as well

why cant you clappers admit you have been made to look stupid by Sir Bas the great.
The REAL fans new all along the man was a joke.
I think its best if listen to us a bit more instead of the getting jealous.

Why do people who think Bassini has done ok look stupid? I think most have said he's done ok but we're probably going to better off with the new (possible) owners.

mrbankrupt wrote:

honest-view wrote:
Althoug buckler has come in with a late remark all is quiet from him and friends.
O-well, I can not wait to read their great moans about our proposed new owners.
I imagine they will have great insight in these owners as well

why cant you clappers admit you have been made to look stupid by Sir Bas the great.
The REAL fans new all along the man was a joke.
I think its best if listen to us a bit more instead of the getting jealous.

Once again my friend, you excel yourself. A very useful contribution which lifts the debate onto a new intellectual plane.

tonupchris wrote:

Chris the Vic wrote: For heaven's sake over half the contributors do not read what is said, re-invent the facts with their own assumptions and write utter rubbish. Make no mistake the damage was done to our club under a previous regime and the WFC staff who support ex chief execs who did not deal with the cash flows properly in previous years have a mis placed loyalty or more likely should not be in their jobs. like Bringe and Luther have stated in different ways Bas may not be easy to trust but what he has done appears not to have been detrimental to the club and despite the so called assertions of fact by many it appears he has not done us any harm just good. from what I can glean there was always Italian money somewhere in the background and if the deal does go through it may help with transparency in the future. As for the Red Lion I do not think WFC has spent very much at all on this project and the initial cost seems to have been paid in, so if it goes but stays open we have a facility that has not been there for some time. As for late wages, slow payment etc this is happening all over it is not pleasant whether you are well paid or poorly paid but it is part of the world we live in. yes it is appalling and contemptuous, just as paying your suppliers later is, or the banks behaviour etc but it is life even if it is not right. For me as a chairman/owner I see nothing that indicates Bas has been worse than Homer, Rossi or Taylor and to date he has been more helpful and not taken a wage or apparently a penny. in no way is the aforegoing a reflection on anybody's integrity, nor their previous stints as manager...just in their most recent roles.

Spot on

Great post

buckler wrote:
Said it from day 1 and will say it now the man is a liar, crook and a joke! Anyone backing him up is a friend of his or simply stupid! Apologies welcome and chanting of my name allowed!

Here's one for you

Whose the bleeper in the black? Whose the bleeeeeeper in the black.

I'm assuming you wear black of course but then you're accustomed to making things up yourself arent you

tonupchris wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

honest-view wrote: Althoug buckler has come in with a late remark all is quiet from him and friends. O-well, I can not wait to read their great moans about our proposed new owners. I imagine they will have great insight in these owners as well

why cant you clappers admit you have been made to look stupid by Sir Bas the great. The REAL fans new all along the man was a joke. I think its best if listen to us a bit more instead of the getting jealous.

Why do people who think Bassini has done ok look stupid? I think most have said he's done ok but we're probably going to better off with the new (possible) owners.

Oh, being reasonable doesnt cut mustard with the anti LB brigade Tonupchris.

I'd keep a heads up for an invite from Buckler to meet in a car park somewhere for some fisticuffs. Not with him of course, it'll be his dad who happens to be bigger than yours

garston tony wrote:

tonupchris wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

honest-view wrote: Althoug buckler has come in with a late remark all is quiet from him and friends. O-well, I can not wait to read their great moans about our proposed new owners. I imagine they will have great insight in these owners as well

why cant you clappers admit you have been made to look stupid by Sir Bas the great. The REAL fans new all along the man was a joke. I think its best if listen to us a bit more instead of the getting jealous.

Why do people who think Bassini has done ok look stupid? I think most have said he's done ok but we're probably going to better off with the new (possible) owners.

Oh, being reasonable doesnt cut mustard with the anti LB brigade Tonupchris.

I'd keep a heads up for an invite from Buckler to meet in a car park somewhere for some fisticuffs. Not with him of course, it'll be his dad who happens to be bigger than yours

i shouldn,t think you had a dad tony, because you act like a right b.......d

mrbankrupt,buckler, & co.your getting very desperate now.
Please inform us regarding proposed new owners with your great insight

Does this mean bad news?

Observer_Owl - "Topsy turvy world of #WatfordFC continues. Expect an update shortly."

We haven't heard much from the Pozzo family since the rather sharply worded statement the other day saying the talks for any deal was basically only in its initial stages than the advanced suggestions the media gave.

mrbankrupt wrote:

garston tony wrote:

tonupchris wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

honest-view wrote: Althoug buckler has come in with a late remark all is quiet from him and friends. O-well, I can not wait to read their great moans about our proposed new owners. I imagine they will have great insight in these owners as well

why cant you clappers admit you have been made to look stupid by Sir Bas the great. The REAL fans new all along the man was a joke. I think its best if listen to us a bit more instead of the getting jealous.

Why do people who think Bassini has done ok look stupid? I think most have said he's done ok but we're probably going to better off with the new (possible) owners.

Oh, being reasonable doesnt cut mustard with the anti LB brigade Tonupchris.

I'd keep a heads up for an invite from Buckler to meet in a car park somewhere for some fisticuffs. Not with him of course, it'll be his dad who happens to be bigger than yours

i shouldn,t think you had a dad tony, because you act like a right b.......d

Nice!

WFC4ever wrote:
Does this mean bad news?

Observer_Owl - "Topsy turvy world of #WatfordFC continues. Expect an update shortly."

We haven't heard much from the Pozzo family since the rather sharply worded statement the other day saying the talks for any deal was basically only in its initial stages than the advanced suggestions the media gave.

in a word ys - see latest news just added on wobbly. unbelieveable.

The Crimson Avenger wrote:

buckler wrote:
Said it from day 1 and will say it now the man is a liar, crook and a joke! Anyone backing him up is a friend of his or simply stupid! Apologies welcome and chanting of my name allowed!

Baz has looked after this club in face of vitriol, liable and just plain stupidity from the inane group of unhappy clappers on this forum. Those deluded creatures that ask for applause are just too insignificant for Baz to take legal action against unlike sky, must make them feel impotent.

If they are so sure of their libellous claims they should put them in the public domain and contact Baz to tell him they have done it. Can I hear weasel words coming from the unhappy clappers? I think so.

If the Pozzo family do take over they will have obviously ignored but most probably be oblivious to the vitriol spewed forth from the unhappy clappers on this forum.

You old Bucker meet me for a cup of coffee and a chat about life the universe and everything at the Gintas Gym Exchange Road or we could have a friendly workout.

Tell you what you steroid taking pip head next time I'm angry will pop over and take it out on you! See you next week small Weiner!

Deal off apparently! Marvellous!!!!!!!

He's a liar and a crook.
Nothing he says can be trusted and he doesn't even try to be evasive: he just flat out lies.
No way has he paid £8-10m in to the club and no way have all the transfer funds remained within the club. I don't believe a word of it.
I want this man out of Watford FC before there is no longer a Watford FC for him to be out of.

bassini out you muppet . now

bassini out you muppet . now

bassini out you muppet . now

I assume this comments box is for everyone and its okay to post my feelings. I'm not a Watford fan (actually didn't even know you lot had a club). I'm sure in your world, this club is very important. I know it may be difficult for some of you to hear that this man is devious and not to be tursted, but trust me - it's all been a big con.

I do know Bassini. All I tell you is that - everyone that knows this di**head will tell you that he is a trickster and always has an ulterior motive. In life he has never gotten too far. everyone that knew him in the old days (when he lived in Denis lane, Stanmore) could tell you about his habit. Let's just say, I'm very surprised he still has a nose.

This is a man who somehow, managed to trick an amazing looking woman into marrying him and having a child. Once she realised he was a useless peice of human waste she divorced him. The question is how, did he manage to get full custody of his daughter? How did he manage to convince the judge? As you probably all know, it's normally the woman who gets custody. She still loves her child very much but due to limited funds ( living in a really tough council estate in London, living on poverty line) she cannot afford to fight anymore.

It's not that all the pro bassini supporters are stupid, just misguided.

I could tell off really cruel things he's done to animals. Also about how whilst he's had money within this short period, he's been investing it into other ventures which noone knows about, when in reality this money should have been used for your pitch and the stands etc..

The one venture he couldn't hide was the pub, but this was done via another company he owns and it's been well published, the pup goes with him.

The shame is - Laurence should have been a double glazing salesman, because I gaureente you, that everyone in Watford would have double glazed windows by now. Instead all he's done, is take your money from the sales and spent it on other things. Not a bad return for some crumby £400k.

I know all you pro Bassini fans will say where's your proof? All I can say to that is " fxxx your proof. I don't really care at all about Watford, your club or the idiots that think he's doing good".

If a judge was convinced by Laurence, what chance have you pro Bassini fans got.

But don't worry, Bassini will get away with it again not not a single person will do anything about it!!

Cleverhornet you obviously have very personal reasons for not liking LB and thats fine but I dont think bringing up his personal life is right on a forum like this.

Also its not right that you slate people who dont actually know the chap personally and who quite rightly wish to judge him on what he has actually done at the club.

If you care so little about our club why do you persist in posting about it?