Watford set to sign Ecuador international Juan Carlos Paredes and consider move for Udinese's Odion Ighalo

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The Hornets are set to sign Ecuador international Juan Carlos Paredes and are considering a move for Udinese striker Odion Ighalo, the Watford Observer understands.

Parades is a pacey wing back who played most of his country’s World Cup warm-up with England on Wednesday night at right-back in a 4-4-2.

The 26-year-old, who is 27 next month, plays for Ecuadorian side Barcelona Sporting Club and he has spent the whole of his career in his native country, also featuring for Rocafuerte, Deportivo Cuenca and Deportivo Quito, where he won the league title in 2011.

Udinese, who like Watford are owned by the Pozzos, have been keen on signing the player for more than six months and he has reportedly attracted interest from clubs around Europe.

Watford have already completed the signings of three players on free transfers this summer; Tottenham goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes, former West Bromwich Albion centre back Gabriel Tamas and Leicester City wing back Lloyd Dyer.

The Hornets are keen to sign players with experience of English football, like the trio already signed, and are targeting several other English and Irish players.

Last week we reported on the club’s interest in Sunderland striker Danny Graham and Stevenage winger Luke Freeman and we understand Derby County midfielder Jeff Hendrick is also wanted by the Golden Boys.

Watford are keen to achieve the right blend of British and Irish players and foreign imports.

The Hornets remain confident they can secure the services of former loanees Daniel Tozser and Matej Vydra.

Watford remain in advanced talks with Tozser but they have looked at other defensive midfielders, with one of those being Alexander Mejia, who is in Colombia’s World Cup squad.

One of the other players Watford are considering is Udinese striker Ighalo, who has spent most of the last five seasons on loan at sister club Granada.

He is a powerful striker who does not possess an impressive strike rate but is a fans’ favourite at Granada, helping the club secure back-to-back promotions to La Liga and remain in the Spanish top flight for three seasons.

The striker, who is 25 in ten days time, started his career at Prime and then Julius Berger in his native Nigeria before joining Lyn in Norway in 2007 at the age of 18.

His nine goals in 20 games during his first year in Norway persuaded Udinese to sign the striker.

He made one start and four substitute appearances for the Italian club before his affinity with Granada began the following season.

Ighalo netted 17 goals as Granada secured promotion back to the Spanish second division for the first time in 22 years via the play-offs.

He started the 2010/11 campaign on loan at Serie A side Cesena but was unable to secure regular football and after four appearances was loaned back to Granada.

Ighalo only scored five goals in 25 outings for Granada that season but one of those was a fine solo effort in the play-off final which secured promotion to La Liga.

Six goals in 30 outings followed during both of the next two campaigns and he scored four in 18 appearances last season.

Ighalo, who is 6ft 2in and strong in the air as well as a decent finisher, has always dreamed of playing in England and is believed to be keen on the move.

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10:10am Fri 6 Jun 14

HornetJJ says...

Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.
Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England. HornetJJ
  • Score: 31

10:12am Fri 6 Jun 14

londomollari says...

With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt).
I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season.
With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt). I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season. londomollari
  • Score: -7

10:15am Fri 6 Jun 14

Bush Hornet says...

This is all good. I liked the look of Paredes on Weds night. Really hopeful on Toszer. Business being done early should make a big difference to the season.
This is all good. I liked the look of Paredes on Weds night. Really hopeful on Toszer. Business being done early should make a big difference to the season. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 36

10:17am Fri 6 Jun 14

Ramageland says...

You know you're going up in the world when you start signing players from Barcelona ;-)
You know you're going up in the world when you start signing players from Barcelona ;-) Ramageland
  • Score: 13

10:30am Fri 6 Jun 14

EstebanSemtex says...

I thought Paredes had a decent game versus England. I'm pleased we're signing a right sided fullback/wingback. We were looking a bit thin in that position last year.

If we sign everyone mentioned, then we have a hell of squad next year. That's whether we keep Troy or not!
I thought Paredes had a decent game versus England. I'm pleased we're signing a right sided fullback/wingback. We were looking a bit thin in that position last year. If we sign everyone mentioned, then we have a hell of squad next year. That's whether we keep Troy or not! EstebanSemtex
  • Score: 17

10:32am Fri 6 Jun 14

watford1881 says...

Keep up Observer.. Old news...
Keep up Observer.. Old news... watford1881
  • Score: -61

10:32am Fri 6 Jun 14

tonupchris says...

londomollari wrote:
With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt).
I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season.
Why, whenever we look set to sign somebody do people associate that with somebody leaving? We've just released a number of players that need replacing. We are not going to replace a 20 goal a season striker with somebody who scores 6. He is quick and that is what they've been after to play WITH Deeney not instead of.
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt). I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season.[/p][/quote]Why, whenever we look set to sign somebody do people associate that with somebody leaving? We've just released a number of players that need replacing. We are not going to replace a 20 goal a season striker with somebody who scores 6. He is quick and that is what they've been after to play WITH Deeney not instead of. tonupchris
  • Score: 28

10:34am Fri 6 Jun 14

watford1881 says...

Alexander Mejia
Alexander Mejia watford1881
  • Score: -8

10:38am Fri 6 Jun 14

VOReason says...

HornetJJ wrote:
Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.
I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game.

This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee
[quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.[/p][/quote]I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game. This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee VOReason
  • Score: -91

10:45am Fri 6 Jun 14

Belfast Hornet says...

VOReason wrote:
HornetJJ wrote:
Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.
I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game.

This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee
On the limited viewing that I saw of Paredes on Wednesday night I would agree that this boys defending is dodgy. One instance sticks out where England had an opportunity to cross and this bloke made no attempt to close down.
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.[/p][/quote]I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game. This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee[/p][/quote]On the limited viewing that I saw of Paredes on Wednesday night I would agree that this boys defending is dodgy. One instance sticks out where England had an opportunity to cross and this bloke made no attempt to close down. Belfast Hornet
  • Score: -19

10:47am Fri 6 Jun 14

VOReason says...

They are all foreign on a day when 9 British players out of 16 is likely to become a requirement.


Under current rules of 10 non nationalised players allowed we still struggle to accommodate all our options:

If signed or retained

Gomes ekstrand pudil angella tamas vydra forestieri abdi tozser will be in most squads of 16.

Strength in depth is important but this leaves out belkalem battochio ranegie fabbrini


And would only leave room for one of these newer links.

I think we need to sign more UK players
They are all foreign on a day when 9 British players out of 16 is likely to become a requirement. Under current rules of 10 non nationalised players allowed we still struggle to accommodate all our options: If signed or retained Gomes ekstrand pudil angella tamas vydra forestieri abdi tozser will be in most squads of 16. Strength in depth is important but this leaves out belkalem battochio ranegie fabbrini And would only leave room for one of these newer links. I think we need to sign more UK players VOReason
  • Score: 12

10:48am Fri 6 Jun 14

DCB1 says...

VOReason wrote:
HornetJJ wrote:
Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.
I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game.

This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee
I love how you write him off after one game! Truth is no-one knows if he'd be any good over the course of a season, particularly when we've watched him play one game of international football where the main concern was probably avoiding injury before the biggest tournament of his life!

As for worst signing, he'd have to be worse than Neuton, Jean-Alain Fanchone, Lucas Neill and Steve Leo Beleck - not something I'd want to "guarantee"!
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.[/p][/quote]I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game. This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee[/p][/quote]I love how you write him off after one game! Truth is no-one knows if he'd be any good over the course of a season, particularly when we've watched him play one game of international football where the main concern was probably avoiding injury before the biggest tournament of his life! As for worst signing, he'd have to be worse than Neuton, Jean-Alain Fanchone, Lucas Neill and Steve Leo Beleck - not something I'd want to "guarantee"! DCB1
  • Score: 36

11:04am Fri 6 Jun 14

Lloydinio says...

i hope I don't jinx it but it seems we may have a pretty strong squad coming into the season.
i hope I don't jinx it but it seems we may have a pretty strong squad coming into the season. Lloydinio
  • Score: 17

11:04am Fri 6 Jun 14

EstebanSemtex says...

VOReason wrote:
HornetJJ wrote: Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.
I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game. This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee
It may be difficult for us to arrange a time to come round for your video presentation. What with you being an eminent football scout who is surely off to Brazil next week to look at some gems.

You're entitled to your opinion but you've seen him play 90 minutes and you're already declaring him to the worse signing in the last 2/3 years. BEFORE HE HAS EVEN SIGNED FOR THE CLUB . Lay off the caffiene and tone down the hyperbole VoR or you'll mona yourself to an early grave.

Paredes did OK in a game where nobody did anything particularly special. Not one player in that game could claim to be 100% focussed with the opening game of a World Cup on the horizon. Let's see how he does in the tournament and IF he signs for us.
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.[/p][/quote]I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game. This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee[/p][/quote]It may be difficult for us to arrange a time to come round for your video presentation. What with you being an eminent football scout who is surely off to Brazil next week to look at some gems. You're entitled to your opinion but you've seen him play 90 minutes and you're already declaring him to the worse signing in the last 2/3 years. BEFORE HE HAS EVEN SIGNED FOR THE CLUB . Lay off the caffiene and tone down the hyperbole VoR or you'll mona yourself to an early grave. Paredes did OK in a game where nobody did anything particularly special. Not one player in that game could claim to be 100% focussed with the opening game of a World Cup on the horizon. Let's see how he does in the tournament and IF he signs for us. EstebanSemtex
  • Score: 52

11:08am Fri 6 Jun 14

tonupchris says...

VOReason - So after watching him for one game when he was playing against an international side and a fairly decent one at that you've decided that you know more than a scouting network that has found million of pounds of talent over the years. Championship game is a little different to playing against international players.
VOReason - So after watching him for one game when he was playing against an international side and a fairly decent one at that you've decided that you know more than a scouting network that has found million of pounds of talent over the years. Championship game is a little different to playing against international players. tonupchris
  • Score: 34

11:23am Fri 6 Jun 14

Bush Hornet says...

Belfast Hornet wrote:
VOReason wrote:
HornetJJ wrote:
Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.
I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game.

This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee
On the limited viewing that I saw of Paredes on Wednesday night I would agree that this boys defending is dodgy. One instance sticks out where England had an opportunity to cross and this bloke made no attempt to close down.
The thing that sticks in my mind is his workrate, his pace and a particularly good long pass. Can't claim to be an expert about the fella after one game but I'm SO glad we're in contention for the signature of highly rated international players.
[quote][p][bold]Belfast Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.[/p][/quote]I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game. This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee[/p][/quote]On the limited viewing that I saw of Paredes on Wednesday night I would agree that this boys defending is dodgy. One instance sticks out where England had an opportunity to cross and this bloke made no attempt to close down.[/p][/quote]The thing that sticks in my mind is his workrate, his pace and a particularly good long pass. Can't claim to be an expert about the fella after one game but I'm SO glad we're in contention for the signature of highly rated international players. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 29

11:25am Fri 6 Jun 14

Harry's Bar says...

DCB1 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
HornetJJ wrote:
Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.
I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game.

This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee
I love how you write him off after one game! Truth is no-one knows if he'd be any good over the course of a season, particularly when we've watched him play one game of international football where the main concern was probably avoiding injury before the biggest tournament of his life!

As for worst signing, he'd have to be worse than Neuton, Jean-Alain Fanchone, Lucas Neill and Steve Leo Beleck - not something I'd want to "guarantee"!
Talking of writing off players early how many games did Neuton, Fanchone, Neill & Beleck play for us between them?
[quote][p][bold]DCB1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.[/p][/quote]I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game. This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee[/p][/quote]I love how you write him off after one game! Truth is no-one knows if he'd be any good over the course of a season, particularly when we've watched him play one game of international football where the main concern was probably avoiding injury before the biggest tournament of his life! As for worst signing, he'd have to be worse than Neuton, Jean-Alain Fanchone, Lucas Neill and Steve Leo Beleck - not something I'd want to "guarantee"![/p][/quote]Talking of writing off players early how many games did Neuton, Fanchone, Neill & Beleck play for us between them? Harry's Bar
  • Score: 4

11:43am Fri 6 Jun 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

I think we hasd better hold off on all these overseas signings until after this vote today or we might never see them play
I think we hasd better hold off on all these overseas signings until after this vote today or we might never see them play PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: 2

11:52am Fri 6 Jun 14

HemelHornet says...

Not a bad right back:

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=sUQuHa2nP
3k

Happy with this potential signing of Paredes
Not a bad right back: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=sUQuHa2nP 3k Happy with this potential signing of Paredes HemelHornet
  • Score: 7

11:56am Fri 6 Jun 14

DCB1 says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
DCB1 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
HornetJJ wrote:
Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.
I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game.

This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee
I love how you write him off after one game! Truth is no-one knows if he'd be any good over the course of a season, particularly when we've watched him play one game of international football where the main concern was probably avoiding injury before the biggest tournament of his life!

As for worst signing, he'd have to be worse than Neuton, Jean-Alain Fanchone, Lucas Neill and Steve Leo Beleck - not something I'd want to "guarantee"!
Talking of writing off players early how many games did Neuton, Fanchone, Neill & Beleck play for us between them?
Hardly the same thing though is it? I think it's fair to say that those players were bad signings given they didn't make any kind of positive contribution to the first team and have now left the club. It may not have been their fault that they weren't given many opportunities but surely the fact that we signed them, hardly play them and shipped them out means their time here wasn't a success!
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DCB1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.[/p][/quote]I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game. This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee[/p][/quote]I love how you write him off after one game! Truth is no-one knows if he'd be any good over the course of a season, particularly when we've watched him play one game of international football where the main concern was probably avoiding injury before the biggest tournament of his life! As for worst signing, he'd have to be worse than Neuton, Jean-Alain Fanchone, Lucas Neill and Steve Leo Beleck - not something I'd want to "guarantee"![/p][/quote]Talking of writing off players early how many games did Neuton, Fanchone, Neill & Beleck play for us between them?[/p][/quote]Hardly the same thing though is it? I think it's fair to say that those players were bad signings given they didn't make any kind of positive contribution to the first team and have now left the club. It may not have been their fault that they weren't given many opportunities but surely the fact that we signed them, hardly play them and shipped them out means their time here wasn't a success! DCB1
  • Score: 6

12:13pm Fri 6 Jun 14

londomollari says...

tonupchris wrote:
londomollari wrote:
With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt).
I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season.
Why, whenever we look set to sign somebody do people associate that with somebody leaving? We've just released a number of players that need replacing. We are not going to replace a 20 goal a season striker with somebody who scores 6. He is quick and that is what they've been after to play WITH Deeney not instead of.
O.K., fair enough. Let's say Deeney stays, and he is first choice. Where would you play Graham, Ighalo, Vydra, Ranegie, Fessi? I am sure the like of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo would only sign on a decent assurance of regular football. If no-one is leaving what formation would you use to keep them happy? Let's have a little realism here. Either Deeney is going probably only one---at most, tho' unlikely, two---of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo will sign.
[quote][p][bold]tonupchris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt). I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season.[/p][/quote]Why, whenever we look set to sign somebody do people associate that with somebody leaving? We've just released a number of players that need replacing. We are not going to replace a 20 goal a season striker with somebody who scores 6. He is quick and that is what they've been after to play WITH Deeney not instead of.[/p][/quote]O.K., fair enough. Let's say Deeney stays, and he is first choice. Where would you play Graham, Ighalo, Vydra, Ranegie, Fessi? I am sure the like of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo would only sign on a decent assurance of regular football. If no-one is leaving what formation would you use to keep them happy? Let's have a little realism here. Either Deeney is going probably only one---at most, tho' unlikely, two---of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo will sign. londomollari
  • Score: 4

12:19pm Fri 6 Jun 14

londomollari says...

londomollari wrote:
tonupchris wrote:
londomollari wrote:
With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt).
I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season.
Why, whenever we look set to sign somebody do people associate that with somebody leaving? We've just released a number of players that need replacing. We are not going to replace a 20 goal a season striker with somebody who scores 6. He is quick and that is what they've been after to play WITH Deeney not instead of.
O.K., fair enough. Let's say Deeney stays, and he is first choice. Where would you play Graham, Ighalo, Vydra, Ranegie, Fessi? I am sure the like of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo would only sign on a decent assurance of regular football. If no-one is leaving what formation would you use to keep them happy? Let's have a little realism here. Either Deeney is going probably only one---at most, tho' unlikely, two---of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo will sign.
Sorry! 'Either Deeney is going OR probably only one---'
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonupchris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt). I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season.[/p][/quote]Why, whenever we look set to sign somebody do people associate that with somebody leaving? We've just released a number of players that need replacing. We are not going to replace a 20 goal a season striker with somebody who scores 6. He is quick and that is what they've been after to play WITH Deeney not instead of.[/p][/quote]O.K., fair enough. Let's say Deeney stays, and he is first choice. Where would you play Graham, Ighalo, Vydra, Ranegie, Fessi? I am sure the like of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo would only sign on a decent assurance of regular football. If no-one is leaving what formation would you use to keep them happy? Let's have a little realism here. Either Deeney is going probably only one---at most, tho' unlikely, two---of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo will sign.[/p][/quote]Sorry! 'Either Deeney is going OR probably only one---' londomollari
  • Score: 1

12:19pm Fri 6 Jun 14

londomollari says...

londomollari wrote:
tonupchris wrote:
londomollari wrote:
With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt).
I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season.
Why, whenever we look set to sign somebody do people associate that with somebody leaving? We've just released a number of players that need replacing. We are not going to replace a 20 goal a season striker with somebody who scores 6. He is quick and that is what they've been after to play WITH Deeney not instead of.
O.K., fair enough. Let's say Deeney stays, and he is first choice. Where would you play Graham, Ighalo, Vydra, Ranegie, Fessi? I am sure the like of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo would only sign on a decent assurance of regular football. If no-one is leaving what formation would you use to keep them happy? Let's have a little realism here. Either Deeney is going probably only one---at most, tho' unlikely, two---of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo will sign.
Sorry! 'Either Deeney is going OR probably only one---'
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonupchris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: With the obvious intent on signing forwards (Graham, Ighalo, Vydra) it seems that those in the know at Watford believe Deeney WILL be going. Assume for a hefty fee. That would also provide the funds for possible fees for such as Freeman and Hendrick. (Although I treat both of those possibilities with a pinch of salt). I just hope that these are targeted transfers and not another scattergun recruitment like the last close season.[/p][/quote]Why, whenever we look set to sign somebody do people associate that with somebody leaving? We've just released a number of players that need replacing. We are not going to replace a 20 goal a season striker with somebody who scores 6. He is quick and that is what they've been after to play WITH Deeney not instead of.[/p][/quote]O.K., fair enough. Let's say Deeney stays, and he is first choice. Where would you play Graham, Ighalo, Vydra, Ranegie, Fessi? I am sure the like of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo would only sign on a decent assurance of regular football. If no-one is leaving what formation would you use to keep them happy? Let's have a little realism here. Either Deeney is going probably only one---at most, tho' unlikely, two---of Graham, Vydra and Ighalo will sign.[/p][/quote]Sorry! 'Either Deeney is going OR probably only one---' londomollari
  • Score: 0

1:32pm Fri 6 Jun 14

84AGAIN says...

I know there are a few negative comments about him on here but we have no real knowledge of him and it's a bit early to judge his ability so don't rain on our Parades (sorry, just had to say it! Comment fuelled by lager and probably regret tomorrow!)
I know there are a few negative comments about him on here but we have no real knowledge of him and it's a bit early to judge his ability so don't rain on our Parades (sorry, just had to say it! Comment fuelled by lager and probably regret tomorrow!) 84AGAIN
  • Score: 16

1:37pm Fri 6 Jun 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

VOReason wrote:
They are all foreign on a day when 9 British players out of 16 is likely to become a requirement.


Under current rules of 10 non nationalised players allowed we still struggle to accommodate all our options:

If signed or retained

Gomes ekstrand pudil angella tamas vydra forestieri abdi tozser will be in most squads of 16.

Strength in depth is important but this leaves out belkalem battochio ranegie fabbrini


And would only leave room for one of these newer links.

I think we need to sign more UK players
I don't know if this is the case, but maybe that's why there were 3 very quick signings (Dyer definitely counts, I'm not sure if Gomes and Tamas have been in the country long enough), and then just 'rumours that Watford are interested' in these foreign players? We may well be waiting for the vote.
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: They are all foreign on a day when 9 British players out of 16 is likely to become a requirement. Under current rules of 10 non nationalised players allowed we still struggle to accommodate all our options: If signed or retained Gomes ekstrand pudil angella tamas vydra forestieri abdi tozser will be in most squads of 16. Strength in depth is important but this leaves out belkalem battochio ranegie fabbrini And would only leave room for one of these newer links. I think we need to sign more UK players[/p][/quote]I don't know if this is the case, but maybe that's why there were 3 very quick signings (Dyer definitely counts, I'm not sure if Gomes and Tamas have been in the country long enough), and then just 'rumours that Watford are interested' in these foreign players? We may well be waiting for the vote. The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 1

1:46pm Fri 6 Jun 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

VOReason wrote:
They are all foreign on a day when 9 British players out of 16 is likely to become a requirement.


Under current rules of 10 non nationalised players allowed we still struggle to accommodate all our options:

If signed or retained

Gomes ekstrand pudil angella tamas vydra forestieri abdi tozser will be in most squads of 16.

Strength in depth is important but this leaves out belkalem battochio ranegie fabbrini


And would only leave room for one of these newer links.

I think we need to sign more UK players
And of course, how about you count positively - home grown players likely to be in the starting 18:

Anya
Deeney (if he stays of course)
Dyer
Doyley
Hoban
Bond
McGugan
Murray

I don't think there's any reason necessarily to be particularly worried, provided we don't have a really bad set of injuries - and even then we'd be looking at replacing 1 or 2 subs with slightly below-par players from our reserves who will only be used in an emergency.
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: They are all foreign on a day when 9 British players out of 16 is likely to become a requirement. Under current rules of 10 non nationalised players allowed we still struggle to accommodate all our options: If signed or retained Gomes ekstrand pudil angella tamas vydra forestieri abdi tozser will be in most squads of 16. Strength in depth is important but this leaves out belkalem battochio ranegie fabbrini And would only leave room for one of these newer links. I think we need to sign more UK players[/p][/quote]And of course, how about you count positively - home grown players likely to be in the starting 18: Anya Deeney (if he stays of course) Dyer Doyley Hoban Bond McGugan Murray I don't think there's any reason necessarily to be particularly worried, provided we don't have a really bad set of injuries - and even then we'd be looking at replacing 1 or 2 subs with slightly below-par players from our reserves who will only be used in an emergency. The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 6

2:23pm Fri 6 Jun 14

petsoundsnick says...

McGugan - Kendrick swap deal.

You heard it here first.
McGugan - Kendrick swap deal. You heard it here first. petsoundsnick
  • Score: -1

2:24pm Fri 6 Jun 14

petsoundsnick says...

Bloody keyboard.

McGugan - Hendrick swap deal.

You heard it here first.
Bloody keyboard. McGugan - Hendrick swap deal. You heard it here first. petsoundsnick
  • Score: 0

2:29pm Fri 6 Jun 14

AngelHornet says...

petsoundsnick wrote:
Bloody keyboard.

McGugan - Hendrick swap deal.

You heard it here first.
Actually seen it on another site.

Wouldn't say no though!
[quote][p][bold]petsoundsnick[/bold] wrote: Bloody keyboard. McGugan - Hendrick swap deal. You heard it here first.[/p][/quote]Actually seen it on another site. Wouldn't say no though! AngelHornet
  • Score: -1

3:34pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Harry's Bar says...

DCB1 wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
DCB1 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
HornetJJ wrote:
Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.
I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game.

This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee
I love how you write him off after one game! Truth is no-one knows if he'd be any good over the course of a season, particularly when we've watched him play one game of international football where the main concern was probably avoiding injury before the biggest tournament of his life!

As for worst signing, he'd have to be worse than Neuton, Jean-Alain Fanchone, Lucas Neill and Steve Leo Beleck - not something I'd want to "guarantee"!
Talking of writing off players early how many games did Neuton, Fanchone, Neill & Beleck play for us between them?
Hardly the same thing though is it? I think it's fair to say that those players were bad signings given they didn't make any kind of positive contribution to the first team and have now left the club. It may not have been their fault that they weren't given many opportunities but surely the fact that we signed them, hardly play them and shipped them out means their time here wasn't a success!
Agree on Beleck and Niell but I thought Neuton was a good player, probably not as a central defender in England though, then got injured and left so the jury will be forever out on him.
[quote][p][bold]DCB1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DCB1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: Paredes would be a very good signing. He played pretty well against England.[/p][/quote]I invite any Watford fan who thought parades was good round to my house to watch a replay of that game. This will be the worst signing under the pozzos I guarantee[/p][/quote]I love how you write him off after one game! Truth is no-one knows if he'd be any good over the course of a season, particularly when we've watched him play one game of international football where the main concern was probably avoiding injury before the biggest tournament of his life! As for worst signing, he'd have to be worse than Neuton, Jean-Alain Fanchone, Lucas Neill and Steve Leo Beleck - not something I'd want to "guarantee"![/p][/quote]Talking of writing off players early how many games did Neuton, Fanchone, Neill & Beleck play for us between them?[/p][/quote]Hardly the same thing though is it? I think it's fair to say that those players were bad signings given they didn't make any kind of positive contribution to the first team and have now left the club. It may not have been their fault that they weren't given many opportunities but surely the fact that we signed them, hardly play them and shipped them out means their time here wasn't a success![/p][/quote]Agree on Beleck and Niell but I thought Neuton was a good player, probably not as a central defender in England though, then got injured and left so the jury will be forever out on him. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 2

4:05pm Fri 6 Jun 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

AngelHornet wrote:
petsoundsnick wrote:
Bloody keyboard.

McGugan - Hendrick swap deal.

You heard it here first.
Actually seen it on another site.

Wouldn't say no though!
To be fair to McGugan, he scored 11 goals from midfield last season, and was our second top scorer... That's not bad at all, wasn't matched by Abdi even with the whole Watford team scoring significantly more the previous season, and I'm not necessarily confident that Hendrick could match it in goals and assists.

I agree he's a great player at Championship level though, and of course is younger than McGugan.
[quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petsoundsnick[/bold] wrote: Bloody keyboard. McGugan - Hendrick swap deal. You heard it here first.[/p][/quote]Actually seen it on another site. Wouldn't say no though![/p][/quote]To be fair to McGugan, he scored 11 goals from midfield last season, and was our second top scorer... That's not bad at all, wasn't matched by Abdi even with the whole Watford team scoring significantly more the previous season, and I'm not necessarily confident that Hendrick could match it in goals and assists. I agree he's a great player at Championship level though, and of course is younger than McGugan. The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 4

2:05pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Dr Johnny Fever says...

hearing Deeney wanted by Villa.
hearing Deeney wanted by Villa. Dr Johnny Fever
  • Score: -2

10:27pm Sat 7 Jun 14

PozzoHornet says...

The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
petsoundsnick wrote:
Bloody keyboard.

McGugan - Hendrick swap deal.

You heard it here first.
Actually seen it on another site.

Wouldn't say no though!
To be fair to McGugan, he scored 11 goals from midfield last season, and was our second top scorer... That's not bad at all, wasn't matched by Abdi even with the whole Watford team scoring significantly more the previous season, and I'm not necessarily confident that Hendrick could match it in goals and assists.

I agree he's a great player at Championship level though, and of course is younger than McGugan.
Hendrick might not be able to match his goals, but he could definitely match McGugan's assists. Also offers a lot more in defence.
[quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petsoundsnick[/bold] wrote: Bloody keyboard. McGugan - Hendrick swap deal. You heard it here first.[/p][/quote]Actually seen it on another site. Wouldn't say no though![/p][/quote]To be fair to McGugan, he scored 11 goals from midfield last season, and was our second top scorer... That's not bad at all, wasn't matched by Abdi even with the whole Watford team scoring significantly more the previous season, and I'm not necessarily confident that Hendrick could match it in goals and assists. I agree he's a great player at Championship level though, and of course is younger than McGugan.[/p][/quote]Hendrick might not be able to match his goals, but he could definitely match McGugan's assists. Also offers a lot more in defence. PozzoHornet
  • Score: -1

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