Retired coach Francesco Guidolin to become 'supervisor' of Watford, Udinese and Granada

Retired Udinese coach Francesco Guidolin. Picture: Action Images

Retired Udinese coach Francesco Guidolin. Picture: Action Images

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Francesco Guidolin is to become the “supervisor” of Watford and the two other Pozzo-owned clubs, Udinese and Granada.

The 58-year-old has retired as coach of Udinese after a 13th-place finish in Serie A and his new role was revealed by the club’s sporting director Christian Giaretta at a press conference this lunchtime.

“From next season he will no longer be the coach of Udinese, but take on the role of technical supervisor,” Giaretta said, as reported by football-italia.net “Guidolin will supervise the three teams of the Pozzo family. We wish him all the best.”

It is not yet clear what Guidolin’s new role will involve, or what it means for the Hornets, but the man who guided Udinese to fourth and third place in the Italian top flight after returning to the club in 2010 told the media: “This is a wonderful day for me, because I will no longer be a coach, but I can remain here.

“I am pleased to stay here, give my contribution and face this new challenge. A new adventure begins and I am curious to see how it goes.

“It’s no coincidence I chose to wear a jacket at this conference, because there are going to be some changes. It’s a new phase of my life.

“I have so many games behind me. I don’t know how I will settle into this new role. I also feel a little sadness, but I want to underline this is entirely my choice. It is what’s best for me.

“Over the next few days I will be at the disposal of the club, then I’ll begin a lovely vacation and after that start working on this new job.”

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3:04pm Tue 20 May 14

mickallen57 says...

What the hell didn't see that one coming . Now what does it mean for Beppe ? More questions than answers I think but seems a complication to me will Beppe be looking over his shoulder or is it Nani looking over his . Anyway onwards and upwards COYH
What the hell didn't see that one coming . Now what does it mean for Beppe ? More questions than answers I think but seems a complication to me will Beppe be looking over his shoulder or is it Nani looking over his . Anyway onwards and upwards COYH mickallen57
  • Score: -13

3:12pm Tue 20 May 14

NorthantsHornet says...

This is proabably a sensible thing. The Pozzo family have had an unsuccessful year although Granada survived which is important for them. They probably need to make a few big decisions regarding recruitment for all 3 teams to get them where they want. You would hope Watford would have slight priority because we have the biggest reward available.
This is proabably a sensible thing. The Pozzo family have had an unsuccessful year although Granada survived which is important for them. They probably need to make a few big decisions regarding recruitment for all 3 teams to get them where they want. You would hope Watford would have slight priority because we have the biggest reward available. NorthantsHornet
  • Score: 16

3:14pm Tue 20 May 14

Harry's Bar says...

Technical Supervisor? Nani..... it's time to start bricking it.
Technical Supervisor? Nani..... it's time to start bricking it. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 13

3:14pm Tue 20 May 14

jimbowfc says...

Weird one this, I don't quite get it?
Weird one this, I don't quite get it? jimbowfc
  • Score: 2

3:24pm Tue 20 May 14

akureyri says...

I think he is to be a knowledge source for the coaches of the three clubs in the manner of Bertie Mee when Graham Taylor was coach and Keith Burkinshaw with some of the other managers,
I think he is to be a knowledge source for the coaches of the three clubs in the manner of Bertie Mee when Graham Taylor was coach and Keith Burkinshaw with some of the other managers, akureyri
  • Score: 18

4:17pm Tue 20 May 14

bristol hornet says...

Not sure about this one!

What does he know about the rigours of the Championship?

Very little, I would presume?

Oh for some British managers or coaches.
Not sure about this one! What does he know about the rigours of the Championship? Very little, I would presume? Oh for some British managers or coaches. bristol hornet
  • Score: -12

4:20pm Tue 20 May 14

Dunderdale Pinner says...

The Pozzos said they wanted to get the wheeling and dealing done early, so maybe this is the start. There was probably no "co-ordinator" in their set up to cover all three clubs. What will he do? I am not sure that he knows yet. Will it just be at player level or will it involve medical and support staff as welll? We will find out all in good time. The Pozzos are business men and to date have shown that they know what they are doing. I look forward to seeing how it all works out as I have confidence in their abilities to run our club.
The Pozzos said they wanted to get the wheeling and dealing done early, so maybe this is the start. There was probably no "co-ordinator" in their set up to cover all three clubs. What will he do? I am not sure that he knows yet. Will it just be at player level or will it involve medical and support staff as welll? We will find out all in good time. The Pozzos are business men and to date have shown that they know what they are doing. I look forward to seeing how it all works out as I have confidence in their abilities to run our club. Dunderdale Pinner
  • Score: 21

4:21pm Tue 20 May 14

steveherts says...

I dont think this is anything to do with coaching but probably getting the right players to the right clubs so Nanni should probably be worried and to be honest id rather have 2 managers decide what they want rather than a chief exc and coach.
I dont think this is anything to do with coaching but probably getting the right players to the right clubs so Nanni should probably be worried and to be honest id rather have 2 managers decide what they want rather than a chief exc and coach. steveherts
  • Score: 8

4:26pm Tue 20 May 14

The BestTrip2011 says...

More to the point, can he speak our lingo?
More to the point, can he speak our lingo? The BestTrip2011
  • Score: 0

4:42pm Tue 20 May 14

andyhooked says...

I am totally lost here! What the blinking heck is going on? Another layer of non-manager people coming in. If his role is to help the Pozzo family handle 3 clubs then I can understand this. The Pozzos can not be all 3 places at the same time. I just hope that he is a business manager for the dear Pozzos and not another Watford complication.
I am totally lost here! What the blinking heck is going on? Another layer of non-manager people coming in. If his role is to help the Pozzo family handle 3 clubs then I can understand this. The Pozzos can not be all 3 places at the same time. I just hope that he is a business manager for the dear Pozzos and not another Watford complication. andyhooked
  • Score: -13

5:22pm Tue 20 May 14

soulfulhornet says...

I think he must be an accomplished manager in Italy - getting Udinese 3rd and 4th - and into the Champions League. No mean acheivement. That's the equivalent of West Brom or Norwich City doing that in the Prem. So obviously no mug.

We don't know his new role, but if it is to get round pegs in round holes and square ones etc rather than the other way around then that can only help.

Nani's main weakness is that he has not always got the selection of players right. In 2012/13 he did well, but in 2013/14 it seemed more scatter gun. Having an actual manager helping (outside direct coaching roles) can only help.

Also the increase from 2 to 3 clubs under the Pozzo umbrella has put some strain on their scouting network. It makes sense to have an experienced pair of hands in that process to maximize its benefit.

If Sannino does not work out early 2014/15, then Guidolin would be a readily available replacement. This might be the plan anyway since Guidolin had been linked with the Watford manager's job previously.

Does he speak English ? May be he is taking lessons now in prepartion for the change. In his new role, he can familarise himself with the Championship, whilst not involved in day to day coaching - I am sure he would be briefed on the things the Pozzos have learned.

Since Udinese have, by their standards (not ours) a couple of mediocre seasons, he must be someone who the Pozzo family trust, otherwise they would just sack him. I think the Pozzos are keeping options open and giving themselves Plan B before the season starts.

Interesting, very interesting.
I think he must be an accomplished manager in Italy - getting Udinese 3rd and 4th - and into the Champions League. No mean acheivement. That's the equivalent of West Brom or Norwich City doing that in the Prem. So obviously no mug. We don't know his new role, but if it is to get round pegs in round holes and square ones etc rather than the other way around then that can only help. Nani's main weakness is that he has not always got the selection of players right. In 2012/13 he did well, but in 2013/14 it seemed more scatter gun. Having an actual manager helping (outside direct coaching roles) can only help. Also the increase from 2 to 3 clubs under the Pozzo umbrella has put some strain on their scouting network. It makes sense to have an experienced pair of hands in that process to maximize its benefit. If Sannino does not work out early 2014/15, then Guidolin would be a readily available replacement. This might be the plan anyway since Guidolin had been linked with the Watford manager's job previously. Does he speak English ? May be he is taking lessons now in prepartion for the change. In his new role, he can familarise himself with the Championship, whilst not involved in day to day coaching - I am sure he would be briefed on the things the Pozzos have learned. Since Udinese have, by their standards (not ours) a couple of mediocre seasons, he must be someone who the Pozzo family trust, otherwise they would just sack him. I think the Pozzos are keeping options open and giving themselves Plan B before the season starts. Interesting, very interesting. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 10

6:16pm Tue 20 May 14

84AGAIN says...

Another move to over complicate things. How about just an owner and a manager, full stop? 13th place for Udinese is not exactly a great CV though I admit 3rd and 4th in the past was obviously a great achievement but since then it's been a slow decent into the nether regions of Serie A. Just what great insight and knowledge can he bring to the championship?
Another move to over complicate things. How about just an owner and a manager, full stop? 13th place for Udinese is not exactly a great CV though I admit 3rd and 4th in the past was obviously a great achievement but since then it's been a slow decent into the nether regions of Serie A. Just what great insight and knowledge can he bring to the championship? 84AGAIN
  • Score: -21

6:58pm Tue 20 May 14

Drewoneone says...

All the above comments are pure speculation based on very little knowledge (if any) of this new role. I would be surprised if it exists anywhere else.

I will continue to put my faith in the Pozzo family to do what is best for our club. Ok, not everything has gone perfectly, but so far the Pozzo family have shown they are proper football club owners, not fly by night clueless fraudsters as some other clubs have experienced (as well as our own). Would you rather have the Glazers (massive debt mountain at Man U), Venkys (relegation from the Premier League? - nobody told us about that!),
Carson Yeung (arrested for fraud), or someone called Baz?

Love the Hornets, Trust the Pozzos.
All the above comments are pure speculation based on very little knowledge (if any) of this new role. I would be surprised if it exists anywhere else. I will continue to put my faith in the Pozzo family to do what is best for our club. Ok, not everything has gone perfectly, but so far the Pozzo family have shown they are proper football club owners, not fly by night clueless fraudsters as some other clubs have experienced (as well as our own). Would you rather have the Glazers (massive debt mountain at Man U), Venkys (relegation from the Premier League? - nobody told us about that!), Carson Yeung (arrested for fraud), or someone called Baz? Love the Hornets, Trust the Pozzos. Drewoneone
  • Score: 28

7:41pm Tue 20 May 14

Poppet Bear says...

Sounds like a "Godfather" to me !!!
Sounds like a "Godfather" to me !!! Poppet Bear
  • Score: 5

8:40pm Tue 20 May 14

Woodley hornet says...

I trust the pozzos on wards and upwards uuuuuu oooorrrnnnssss
I trust the pozzos on wards and upwards uuuuuu oooorrrnnnssss Woodley hornet
  • Score: 5

9:25pm Tue 20 May 14

Monstermunch17 says...

Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now.

When are we going to get our club back?
Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now. When are we going to get our club back? Monstermunch17
  • Score: -49

9:29pm Tue 20 May 14

peter10531089 says...

I am going to venture an opinion and it is only an opinion however as someone who has worked under a director of football/technical director model (albeit at non league level) I hope it is an informed one.

Firstly I agree with Drew above in that this is likely to not have been a role used before because the pozzo's model is fairly unique to my knowledge, however as a technical director often acts as the arbiter within a club when there are clashes of interest between 1st,reserves, youth squads etc... I would imagine that this role would do the same but between the clubs. The pozzo's have a collective pool of players to split between three clubs and until now it would appear that each team has had to fight their own cause, now though with one overall supervisor who's role appears to be to provide balanced success across three clubs you would hope that the needs of all three clubs can be achieved.

Let's take the case of Vydra, his agent has been a pain, but he was able to deal with Watford from a position of strength as he was in on loan. Now a reprentative of udinese, Granada and Watford will speak with one voice to a player and with the full authority of the owners - this could be a very good thing.

Does this role make Nani's role redundant? - we'll no one knows, there would very likely be areas of overlap but 1 person could not act as technical director of three separate clubs either, so we will have to wait and see, however the Pozzo's are not resting on their laurels with all three clubs having had challenging seasons are doing something different and that (as ever with Pozzo's in my opinion) is to be applauded.
I am going to venture an opinion and it is only an opinion however as someone who has worked under a director of football/technical director model (albeit at non league level) I hope it is an informed one. Firstly I agree with Drew above in that this is likely to not have been a role used before because the pozzo's model is fairly unique to my knowledge, however as a technical director often acts as the arbiter within a club when there are clashes of interest between 1st,reserves, youth squads etc... I would imagine that this role would do the same but between the clubs. The pozzo's have a collective pool of players to split between three clubs and until now it would appear that each team has had to fight their own cause, now though with one overall supervisor who's role appears to be to provide balanced success across three clubs you would hope that the needs of all three clubs can be achieved. Let's take the case of Vydra, his agent has been a pain, but he was able to deal with Watford from a position of strength as he was in on loan. Now a reprentative of udinese, Granada and Watford will speak with one voice to a player and with the full authority of the owners - this could be a very good thing. Does this role make Nani's role redundant? - we'll no one knows, there would very likely be areas of overlap but 1 person could not act as technical director of three separate clubs either, so we will have to wait and see, however the Pozzo's are not resting on their laurels with all three clubs having had challenging seasons are doing something different and that (as ever with Pozzo's in my opinion) is to be applauded. peter10531089
  • Score: 23

9:43pm Tue 20 May 14

Drewoneone says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now.

When are we going to get our club back?
Oh yes - that club where we were grateful to survive each season and Championship football was the pinnacle of our ambition as well as a crumbling East Stand and criminal/chancer owners. God, I'd forgotten how good things were - how foolish of me!
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now. When are we going to get our club back?[/p][/quote]Oh yes - that club where we were grateful to survive each season and Championship football was the pinnacle of our ambition as well as a crumbling East Stand and criminal/chancer owners. God, I'd forgotten how good things were - how foolish of me! Drewoneone
  • Score: 34

10:01pm Tue 20 May 14

SAHornet says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now.

When are we going to get our club back?
I've read some pretty dreadful drivel over time on this board but mm17 has dribbled the stupidest drivel of all this evening. What a total bell-end, sir.
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now. When are we going to get our club back?[/p][/quote]I've read some pretty dreadful drivel over time on this board but mm17 has dribbled the stupidest drivel of all this evening. What a total bell-end, sir. SAHornet
  • Score: 21

11:01pm Tue 20 May 14

Victory Yellow says...

Well he looks like he prepared an evening kick off in January, so he should settle in OK.
Well he looks like he prepared an evening kick off in January, so he should settle in OK. Victory Yellow
  • Score: 2

11:05pm Tue 20 May 14

soulfulhornet says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now.

When are we going to get our club back?
When was the academy downgraded ? We just didn't apply for the highest status because the cost was too high. Should we have diverted the money from paying wages to the first team squad to pay for that status (given Financial Fair Play)? Which means the players that Sean had to work with would appear like world beaters compared to the ones we would then be able to afford i.e League 2 or Conference ones !!

And excuse me the Harefield academy still functions and will produce the goods given time. It is estimated it takes 10-15 years for such an academy to produce top results.

And there is no point now, if a Watford, a Peterborough or a Crewe unearth against all the odds produce a Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard or god forbid a Lionel Messi, Ronaldo or Gareth Bale, the big boys can now poach him for less than cost of coaching him and his contemporaries.
The days of a Johnny Barnes staying for 6 months let alone 6 years is long gone.

This season has been to say the least disappointing, but with the financial constraints would we have seen the likes of Fessi, Abdi, Vydra, Angella etc don the hornets shirts over the last couple of years without the Pozzos. No and where would we be if Bassini, the Russos, Ashcroft et al (and their ilk) were in charge!

I have never lost my club I LOVE WATFORD as so do 99.9% of the fans, despite our disagreements, who contirbute to this forum regardless of ownership or the players that represent the club. Most players/ managers get the club, some don't and that has always been the case even in the Holton, the Furphy and Taylor years.

Our club is here, it never has, nor will go away. even in the Petchie days, dark as they were, it was still OUR club.
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now. When are we going to get our club back?[/p][/quote]When was the academy downgraded ? We just didn't apply for the highest status because the cost was too high. Should we have diverted the money from paying wages to the first team squad to pay for that status (given Financial Fair Play)? Which means the players that Sean had to work with would appear like world beaters compared to the ones we would then be able to afford i.e League 2 or Conference ones !! And excuse me the Harefield academy still functions and will produce the goods given time. It is estimated it takes 10-15 years for such an academy to produce top results. And there is no point now, if a Watford, a Peterborough or a Crewe unearth against all the odds produce a Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard or god forbid a Lionel Messi, Ronaldo or Gareth Bale, the big boys can now poach him for less than cost of coaching him and his contemporaries. The days of a Johnny Barnes staying for 6 months let alone 6 years is long gone. This season has been to say the least disappointing, but with the financial constraints would we have seen the likes of Fessi, Abdi, Vydra, Angella etc don the hornets shirts over the last couple of years without the Pozzos. No and where would we be if Bassini, the Russos, Ashcroft et al (and their ilk) were in charge! I have never lost my club I LOVE WATFORD as so do 99.9% of the fans, despite our disagreements, who contirbute to this forum regardless of ownership or the players that represent the club. Most players/ managers get the club, some don't and that has always been the case even in the Holton, the Furphy and Taylor years. Our club is here, it never has, nor will go away. even in the Petchie days, dark as they were, it was still OUR club. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 18

5:04am Wed 21 May 14

Sealegs says...

This is Nani being sacked by another name.
This is Nani being sacked by another name. Sealegs
  • Score: 2

7:35am Wed 21 May 14

endean2 says...

obviously nobody knows how this will actually work at present.
My only real concern is that we need clear and concise thinking that
is un muddled (any such word?) for the future. Another layer of
Management could be disruptive,and achieve little.
obviously nobody knows how this will actually work at present. My only real concern is that we need clear and concise thinking that is un muddled (any such word?) for the future. Another layer of Management could be disruptive,and achieve little. endean2
  • Score: -2

7:54am Wed 21 May 14

rayman01 says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now.

When are we going to get our club back?
When was the academy downgraded ? We just didn't apply for the highest status because the cost was too high. Should we have diverted the money from paying wages to the first team squad to pay for that status (given Financial Fair Play)? Which means the players that Sean had to work with would appear like world beaters compared to the ones we would then be able to afford i.e League 2 or Conference ones !!

And excuse me the Harefield academy still functions and will produce the goods given time. It is estimated it takes 10-15 years for such an academy to produce top results.

And there is no point now, if a Watford, a Peterborough or a Crewe unearth against all the odds produce a Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard or god forbid a Lionel Messi, Ronaldo or Gareth Bale, the big boys can now poach him for less than cost of coaching him and his contemporaries.
The days of a Johnny Barnes staying for 6 months let alone 6 years is long gone.

This season has been to say the least disappointing, but with the financial constraints would we have seen the likes of Fessi, Abdi, Vydra, Angella etc don the hornets shirts over the last couple of years without the Pozzos. No and where would we be if Bassini, the Russos, Ashcroft et al (and their ilk) were in charge!

I have never lost my club I LOVE WATFORD as so do 99.9% of the fans, despite our disagreements, who contirbute to this forum regardless of ownership or the players that represent the club. Most players/ managers get the club, some don't and that has always been the case even in the Holton, the Furphy and Taylor years.

Our club is here, it never has, nor will go away. even in the Petchie days, dark as they were, it was still OUR club.
From the heart with plent of real soul added. I luv you man for telling it as it is. Luv the Horns!
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now. When are we going to get our club back?[/p][/quote]When was the academy downgraded ? We just didn't apply for the highest status because the cost was too high. Should we have diverted the money from paying wages to the first team squad to pay for that status (given Financial Fair Play)? Which means the players that Sean had to work with would appear like world beaters compared to the ones we would then be able to afford i.e League 2 or Conference ones !! And excuse me the Harefield academy still functions and will produce the goods given time. It is estimated it takes 10-15 years for such an academy to produce top results. And there is no point now, if a Watford, a Peterborough or a Crewe unearth against all the odds produce a Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard or god forbid a Lionel Messi, Ronaldo or Gareth Bale, the big boys can now poach him for less than cost of coaching him and his contemporaries. The days of a Johnny Barnes staying for 6 months let alone 6 years is long gone. This season has been to say the least disappointing, but with the financial constraints would we have seen the likes of Fessi, Abdi, Vydra, Angella etc don the hornets shirts over the last couple of years without the Pozzos. No and where would we be if Bassini, the Russos, Ashcroft et al (and their ilk) were in charge! I have never lost my club I LOVE WATFORD as so do 99.9% of the fans, despite our disagreements, who contirbute to this forum regardless of ownership or the players that represent the club. Most players/ managers get the club, some don't and that has always been the case even in the Holton, the Furphy and Taylor years. Our club is here, it never has, nor will go away. even in the Petchie days, dark as they were, it was still OUR club.[/p][/quote]From the heart with plent of real soul added. I luv you man for telling it as it is. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 2

8:47am Wed 21 May 14

Harry's Bar says...

endean2 wrote:
obviously nobody knows how this will actually work at present.
My only real concern is that we need clear and concise thinking that
is un muddled (any such word?) for the future. Another layer of
Management could be disruptive,and achieve little.
After last season's totally chaotic and brainless dealings at Watford I'm not sure it would be possible to create more disruption.
[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: obviously nobody knows how this will actually work at present. My only real concern is that we need clear and concise thinking that is un muddled (any such word?) for the future. Another layer of Management could be disruptive,and achieve little.[/p][/quote]After last season's totally chaotic and brainless dealings at Watford I'm not sure it would be possible to create more disruption. Harry's Bar
  • Score: -1

9:20am Wed 21 May 14

Goldenboy1960 says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now.

When are we going to get our club back?
Withy Bassini?
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now. When are we going to get our club back?[/p][/quote]Withy Bassini? Goldenboy1960
  • Score: 0

9:26am Wed 21 May 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

rayman01 wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now.

When are we going to get our club back?
When was the academy downgraded ? We just didn't apply for the highest status because the cost was too high. Should we have diverted the money from paying wages to the first team squad to pay for that status (given Financial Fair Play)? Which means the players that Sean had to work with would appear like world beaters compared to the ones we would then be able to afford i.e League 2 or Conference ones !!

And excuse me the Harefield academy still functions and will produce the goods given time. It is estimated it takes 10-15 years for such an academy to produce top results.

And there is no point now, if a Watford, a Peterborough or a Crewe unearth against all the odds produce a Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard or god forbid a Lionel Messi, Ronaldo or Gareth Bale, the big boys can now poach him for less than cost of coaching him and his contemporaries.
The days of a Johnny Barnes staying for 6 months let alone 6 years is long gone.

This season has been to say the least disappointing, but with the financial constraints would we have seen the likes of Fessi, Abdi, Vydra, Angella etc don the hornets shirts over the last couple of years without the Pozzos. No and where would we be if Bassini, the Russos, Ashcroft et al (and their ilk) were in charge!

I have never lost my club I LOVE WATFORD as so do 99.9% of the fans, despite our disagreements, who contirbute to this forum regardless of ownership or the players that represent the club. Most players/ managers get the club, some don't and that has always been the case even in the Holton, the Furphy and Taylor years.

Our club is here, it never has, nor will go away. even in the Petchie days, dark as they were, it was still OUR club.
From the heart with plent of real soul added. I luv you man for telling it as it is. Luv the Horns!
whats all this "Luv" nonsense ? Pull yourself together man !!
[quote][p][bold]rayman01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now. When are we going to get our club back?[/p][/quote]When was the academy downgraded ? We just didn't apply for the highest status because the cost was too high. Should we have diverted the money from paying wages to the first team squad to pay for that status (given Financial Fair Play)? Which means the players that Sean had to work with would appear like world beaters compared to the ones we would then be able to afford i.e League 2 or Conference ones !! And excuse me the Harefield academy still functions and will produce the goods given time. It is estimated it takes 10-15 years for such an academy to produce top results. And there is no point now, if a Watford, a Peterborough or a Crewe unearth against all the odds produce a Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard or god forbid a Lionel Messi, Ronaldo or Gareth Bale, the big boys can now poach him for less than cost of coaching him and his contemporaries. The days of a Johnny Barnes staying for 6 months let alone 6 years is long gone. This season has been to say the least disappointing, but with the financial constraints would we have seen the likes of Fessi, Abdi, Vydra, Angella etc don the hornets shirts over the last couple of years without the Pozzos. No and where would we be if Bassini, the Russos, Ashcroft et al (and their ilk) were in charge! I have never lost my club I LOVE WATFORD as so do 99.9% of the fans, despite our disagreements, who contirbute to this forum regardless of ownership or the players that represent the club. Most players/ managers get the club, some don't and that has always been the case even in the Holton, the Furphy and Taylor years. Our club is here, it never has, nor will go away. even in the Petchie days, dark as they were, it was still OUR club.[/p][/quote]From the heart with plent of real soul added. I luv you man for telling it as it is. Luv the Horns![/p][/quote]whats all this "Luv" nonsense ? Pull yourself together man !! Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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10:12am Wed 21 May 14

BryantheOrn says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now.

When are we going to get our club back?
Why don't you contact Baz, he needs friends.
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Not such a great idea now ? All you sheep that slavishly allowed our club to be bent over by this pair, those who were starstruck by Zola, happy to see loyal servants pushed aside or passed over, academy downgraded - you must feel very foolish now. When are we going to get our club back?[/p][/quote]Why don't you contact Baz, he needs friends. BryantheOrn
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10:23am Wed 21 May 14

Hornankey says...

Sounds like a non-job to me - may be a reward for good service? Of course it may add further interference and confusion at club level. Watford desperately needs someone with experience of the English Championship which this does not bring. We can but wait and see.
Sounds like a non-job to me - may be a reward for good service? Of course it may add further interference and confusion at club level. Watford desperately needs someone with experience of the English Championship which this does not bring. We can but wait and see. Hornankey
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11:30am Wed 21 May 14

soulfulhornet says...

Let's wait and see what the role is before making a judgement. But his experience at top level football could prove invaluable. Would we be able to get someone on board with equivalent Premier League background ? Probably not.

Improving the coordination of the 3 clubs makes sense. For example, the restrictions in England re loans (but do not apply between Udinese and Granada), it seemed strange that we used up loan spots with Udinese/ Granada players. Why did they sign for them and then be loaned to us immediately? Why not sign for us direct ? That used up valuable loan places that could have been better used for example domestically. It is these type of anomalies I would suggest that Guidolin can iron out
Let's wait and see what the role is before making a judgement. But his experience at top level football could prove invaluable. Would we be able to get someone on board with equivalent Premier League background ? Probably not. Improving the coordination of the 3 clubs makes sense. For example, the restrictions in England re loans (but do not apply between Udinese and Granada), it seemed strange that we used up loan spots with Udinese/ Granada players. Why did they sign for them and then be loaned to us immediately? Why not sign for us direct ? That used up valuable loan places that could have been better used for example domestically. It is these type of anomalies I would suggest that Guidolin can iron out soulfulhornet
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11:40am Wed 21 May 14

garston tony says...

'Supervisor' is a title that means he could be doing lots or little at all. Guess we'll find out more when he comes back from holiday in a couple of weeks until then as opinionated as people are gettings its all speculation
'Supervisor' is a title that means he could be doing lots or little at all. Guess we'll find out more when he comes back from holiday in a couple of weeks until then as opinionated as people are gettings its all speculation garston tony
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2:50pm Wed 21 May 14

rousman 2 says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Not sure about this one!

What does he know about the rigours of the Championship?

Very little, I would presume?

Oh for some British managers or coaches.
Since 2004/2005 when it was first know as the Championship 30 teams have been promoted to the Priemier League ONE team had a coach that was not British. So when you come on here & say we should have a British coach is it any wonder that you get so many thumbs down. ????
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure about this one! What does he know about the rigours of the Championship? Very little, I would presume? Oh for some British managers or coaches.[/p][/quote]Since 2004/2005 when it was first know as the Championship 30 teams have been promoted to the Priemier League ONE team had a coach that was not British. So when you come on here & say we should have a British coach is it any wonder that you get so many thumbs down. ???? rousman 2
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4:43pm Wed 21 May 14

longcliffe says...

rousman 2 wrote:
bristol hornet wrote: Not sure about this one! What does he know about the rigours of the Championship? Very little, I would presume? Oh for some British managers or coaches.
Since 2004/2005 when it was first know as the Championship 30 teams have been promoted to the Priemier League ONE team had a coach that was not British. So when you come on here & say we should have a British coach is it any wonder that you get so many thumbs down. ????
I would have thought you WOULD want a British manager!
[quote][p][bold]rousman 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure about this one! What does he know about the rigours of the Championship? Very little, I would presume? Oh for some British managers or coaches.[/p][/quote]Since 2004/2005 when it was first know as the Championship 30 teams have been promoted to the Priemier League ONE team had a coach that was not British. So when you come on here & say we should have a British coach is it any wonder that you get so many thumbs down. ????[/p][/quote]I would have thought you WOULD want a British manager! longcliffe
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6:20pm Wed 21 May 14

rousman 2 says...

longcliffe wrote:
rousman 2 wrote:
bristol hornet wrote: Not sure about this one! What does he know about the rigours of the Championship? Very little, I would presume? Oh for some British managers or coaches.
Since 2004/2005 when it was first know as the Championship 30 teams have been promoted to the Priemier League ONE team had a coach that was not British. So when you come on here & say we should have a British coach is it any wonder that you get so many thumbs down. ????
I would have thought you WOULD want a British manager!
I do it is called sarcasm.
[quote][p][bold]longcliffe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rousman 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure about this one! What does he know about the rigours of the Championship? Very little, I would presume? Oh for some British managers or coaches.[/p][/quote]Since 2004/2005 when it was first know as the Championship 30 teams have been promoted to the Priemier League ONE team had a coach that was not British. So when you come on here & say we should have a British coach is it any wonder that you get so many thumbs down. ????[/p][/quote]I would have thought you WOULD want a British manager![/p][/quote]I do it is called sarcasm. rousman 2
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12:21am Thu 22 May 14

seaford'orn says...

Ok so were all speculating on what his role will be, but if he is allowed to override or interfere with the managers way of doing things l can only see confusion and unrest.
I am all for Saninno being given a while longer to do thing his way but he can't do that if his role is being undermined by a Technical Superviser.
Ok so were all speculating on what his role will be, but if he is allowed to override or interfere with the managers way of doing things l can only see confusion and unrest. I am all for Saninno being given a while longer to do thing his way but he can't do that if his role is being undermined by a Technical Superviser. seaford'orn
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1:31pm Thu 22 May 14

corbindallas says...

Think it is straight forward, he is overlooking the 3 clubs players and scouting network so he will be able to ensure all 3 clubs have the players they need in whatever area and as supervisor his say so is final between the 3, if Granada have a player Watford needs he can make it happen and vise versa, think Nani's days may be numbered if this works out and about time, after all why pay big bucks for little return!
Think it is straight forward, he is overlooking the 3 clubs players and scouting network so he will be able to ensure all 3 clubs have the players they need in whatever area and as supervisor his say so is final between the 3, if Granada have a player Watford needs he can make it happen and vise versa, think Nani's days may be numbered if this works out and about time, after all why pay big bucks for little return! corbindallas
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