Manuel Almunia feels Watford lacked enough players with Championship experience this season and says the squad didn't work hard enough on a daily basis

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Manuel Almunia believes Watford lacked enough players with Championship experience this season and conceded the squad didn’t work hard enough on a daily basis.

The fact Almunia mentioned Jonathan Hogg and John Eustace as players the Hornets missed during the 2013/14 campaign will not surprise supporters but the other name listed was indicative of what attributes the goalkeeper believes were lacking from the squad.

“When you have a bad season you always remember the people who weren’t here,” Almunia said on Tuesday.

“Hoggy is an example of the type of player Watford have missed this season. John didn’t play much because he was injured but in training he had an experience that we have missed this year.

“Also Chris Iwelumo had a good mentality. He was always joking in training or shouting and arguing – these are the things that make a team.

“They are people who all left and we didn’t have these type of players this year.

“When new people come to the club they have to learn the country, the language and the football. We have no time for this because it takes a while to get used to the country.

“Everyone who comes to this club should come with a little knowledge of how everything works here.”

He continued: “We have probably missed people this season who know the Championship and English football. The Championship in this country is so different compared to other countries.

“For example the Championship in Spain is so different so maybe we have missed the experience of people who know English football and know what you need to be successful in every game.”

It is important to note Almunia is a brutally honest individual in interviews and he was last season, even when the team were enjoying success.

The goalkeeper has played with some of the finest players to grace English football during his time at Arsenal and knows what makes a successful dressing room.

The goalkeeper, who is 37 in ten days time, dismissed the suggestion there were any issues with team unity but did acknowlege the team lacked leadership qualities.

He said: “We respect each other a lot. In my opinion you need to have disagreements and argue with people because that means you can solve problems.

“We didn’t have many problems. Perhaps we should have had more problems to get more people involved in solving them.”

Watford finished the current campaign in 13th place, 12 points below the play-off places.

The season ended with the Hornets losing their final four matches. The 2-1 loss at QPR was one of their finest performances of the season but the next trio were arguably the worst.

“It’s been a long, difficult and hard season for everyone and it had a sad finish,” Almunia said.

“If I knew [exactly what went wrong] then I would have tried to put solutions forward.

“The league has been harder because we came from a play-off final last year and everyone was thinking it would be easier.

“Thinking a season will be easier is the worst thing you can do. We probably didn’t work as hard as we should have on a daily basis but there are a number of things you can improve during a season. This season is no exception.

“We also had a change of manager and a lot of players coming in and out.”

The Hornets attempted to strengthen their squad last year following several key departures but the results were mixed.

“This year we had good quality and good players like last season but maybe we didn’t have the right mentality to play this season,” he added.

Head coach Beppe Sannino questioned his players’ commitment and passion after recent defeats to Derby County and Charlton Athletic.

Almunia responded by saying: “When you lose and are not doing well you can find excuses or weak points in the team. We had weak points last year where nothing was working and moments when we thought we weren’t a good team, but our reaction was always good.

“This season has been flat and at the same level. We haven’t had reactions when we needed them."

The goalkeeper continued: “I can only speak from my point of view; which is every day you need to train and do better than you did yesterday.

“If you don’t start with this point as a professional then you are lost. I don’t think everyone tried to beat themselves every day.

“If you don’t try hard in professional football every day then you are dead and football will put you where you deserve to be. Maybe we didn’t have the same ambition. It’s definitely a mix of things.”

The final three matches were of real concern for the club and their fans. It wasn’t the fact the Hornets lost, it was the manner of the performances.

The battling defeat to QPR ended the club’s play-off hopes and that appeared to take its toll on the squad.

“Mentally it has been hard after QPR,” Almunia said.

“Our hopes were in that game and the previous games so the team has been tired mentally after that match.

“Our commitment has been great every day and there haven’t been complaints. Our problem in the last three games has been mentally.

“We’re not physically tired but we have had a big stone on our shoulders in the last three matches and that made us look heavier on the pitch.”

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8:25am Sun 11 May 14

mellow yellow says...

Very frank, fair and, to some degree, enlightening. Presumably Duxbury and co are aware of these observations and, if they possess any intelligence at all, 'senior management' will address this NOW.
Very frank, fair and, to some degree, enlightening. Presumably Duxbury and co are aware of these observations and, if they possess any intelligence at all, 'senior management' will address this NOW. mellow yellow
  • Score: 28

8:49am Sun 11 May 14

robo bovingdon says...

why has it taken till the end of the season to make these points surely this should have been addressed by those in power please dont start next season with this mentality it needs addressing early on,lets get it right NOW
why has it taken till the end of the season to make these points surely this should have been addressed by those in power please dont start next season with this mentality it needs addressing early on,lets get it right NOW robo bovingdon
  • Score: 4

9:21am Sun 11 May 14

Sealegs says...

All this shooting from the hip clearly means that he has decided he's leaving.
All this shooting from the hip clearly means that he has decided he's leaving. Sealegs
  • Score: -10

9:21am Sun 11 May 14

The Rover says...

“Also Chris Iwelumo had a good mentality. He was always joking in training or shouting and arguing – these are the things that make a team."

Michael McIntyre makes people laugh and Dynamo does magic tricks. They are also not very good at football!

Joking aside, let's hope they identify where things went wrong, and come back stronger next season. Move out the deadwood, keep Deeney and bring back Vydra. I also hope Almunia stays for another season. Yes he makes mistakes, all keepers do, but strikers misplace a shot on goal, a midfielder makes a bad pass, and result is different. We are not going to get a perfect keeper as they do not exist!
“Also Chris Iwelumo had a good mentality. He was always joking in training or shouting and arguing – these are the things that make a team." Michael McIntyre makes people laugh and Dynamo does magic tricks. They are also not very good at football! Joking aside, let's hope they identify where things went wrong, and come back stronger next season. Move out the deadwood, keep Deeney and bring back Vydra. I also hope Almunia stays for another season. Yes he makes mistakes, all keepers do, but strikers misplace a shot on goal, a midfielder makes a bad pass, and result is different. We are not going to get a perfect keeper as they do not exist! The Rover
  • Score: 28

10:21am Sun 11 May 14

gloryhornet4 says...

The game at Man City was markedly better than Championship games.

Poor excuse I know to say, as Man C breached the Fair Play spend by £37.2m they were able to bulldoze Watford out of the FA Cup by bringing on more mega expensive subs in the 2nd half. If Watford had won but had brought on a 16 year old for 2 mins who had not been registered properly they would have been thrown out of the Cup.

If Man C are fined millions can they send just £1m to Watford as compensation for being dumped out of the Cup by a side who bent the rules.

If Warnock or Holloway were victims it would be in the news for weeks.
The game at Man City was markedly better than Championship games. Poor excuse I know to say, as Man C breached the Fair Play spend by £37.2m they were able to bulldoze Watford out of the FA Cup by bringing on more mega expensive subs in the 2nd half. If Watford had won but had brought on a 16 year old for 2 mins who had not been registered properly they would have been thrown out of the Cup. If Man C are fined millions can they send just £1m to Watford as compensation for being dumped out of the Cup by a side who bent the rules. If Warnock or Holloway were victims it would be in the news for weeks. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 12

12:26pm Sun 11 May 14

Sahorn says...

Scary thing is we've known all of this all season.
Need to learnt from mistakes and frankly, some naivety.

So next season IMHO apart from the right players we need:-
* players who are fit and not getting 'tired' in the last quarter - shame! GT style fitness first for the team so less excuses and less injuries (look what Dyche has achieved with a small fit squad)
* play 4 at the back. Defending has been amateurish too often.
* higher number of 'home grown' players for Championship experience and to easily satisfy FL rules
* outfield club captain like Eustace (what a big mistake that was). GK as captain is not ideal much as I like Almunia.
* a psychologist/voodoo witch doctor/sangoma/hypno
tist - anything to stop our self fulfilling prophesy of thinking we are going to concede when trying to see out the last quarter

Get these sorted before a ball is kicked with the right players and we'll have more than a fair chance of top 6. The potential is there - just needs organisation and a bit of steel mentality for the whole 10 months... COYH
Scary thing is we've known all of this all season. Need to learnt from mistakes and frankly, some naivety. So next season IMHO apart from the right players we need:- * players who are fit and not getting 'tired' in the last quarter - shame! GT style fitness first for the team so less excuses and less injuries (look what Dyche has achieved with a small fit squad) * play 4 at the back. Defending has been amateurish too often. * higher number of 'home grown' players for Championship experience and to easily satisfy FL rules * outfield club captain like Eustace (what a big mistake that was). GK as captain is not ideal much as I like Almunia. * a psychologist/voodoo witch doctor/sangoma/hypno tist - anything to stop our self fulfilling prophesy of thinking we are going to concede when trying to see out the last quarter Get these sorted before a ball is kicked with the right players and we'll have more than a fair chance of top 6. The potential is there - just needs organisation and a bit of steel mentality for the whole 10 months... COYH Sahorn
  • Score: 6

1:02pm Sun 11 May 14

rousman 2 says...

Most would agree with much of what Almunia has said. But that would only account for about 50% of the problem's, we finished the season 33 points off automatic promotion so there are many things that need to be addressed if we are not to have another season like we have just had.
Most would agree with much of what Almunia has said. But that would only account for about 50% of the problem's, we finished the season 33 points off automatic promotion so there are many things that need to be addressed if we are not to have another season like we have just had. rousman 2
  • Score: 9

1:18pm Sun 11 May 14

Hairy Hornet says...

Sealegs wrote:
All this shooting from the hip clearly means that he has decided he's leaving.
He's on his way. If he was undecided before, the decision about extra training clearly made his mind up. Can't see Bond taking the No 1 Spot.
[quote][p][bold]Sealegs[/bold] wrote: All this shooting from the hip clearly means that he has decided he's leaving.[/p][/quote]He's on his way. If he was undecided before, the decision about extra training clearly made his mind up. Can't see Bond taking the No 1 Spot. Hairy Hornet
  • Score: -4

2:33pm Sun 11 May 14

UZZY says...

A bit late now for him to express these views surely as captain he should have had some influence & shown some leadership over those players who had "switched" off , too easy to say after the "horse has bolted" !
A bit late now for him to express these views surely as captain he should have had some influence & shown some leadership over those players who had "switched" off , too easy to say after the "horse has bolted" ! UZZY
  • Score: 2

3:18pm Sun 11 May 14

andyhooked says...

You do not make such comments during the season. It makes a bad situation even worse. Now we are raking over the ashes after a disappionting season. Nani must have a big part of the blame No stable squad and a rotation of some rubbish loans and no wonder Sannino having no hair, he pulled it out in frustration. Beppe and the club model does not cut it for me. Back to basics with a manager that knows english football and a manager makes the choices of whom comes in and who goes not a blinking administrator.
You do not make such comments during the season. It makes a bad situation even worse. Now we are raking over the ashes after a disappionting season. Nani must have a big part of the blame No stable squad and a rotation of some rubbish loans and no wonder Sannino having no hair, he pulled it out in frustration. Beppe and the club model does not cut it for me. Back to basics with a manager that knows english football and a manager makes the choices of whom comes in and who goes not a blinking administrator. andyhooked
  • Score: 6

3:39pm Sun 11 May 14

mickallen57 says...

mellow yellow wrote:
Very frank, fair and, to some degree, enlightening. Presumably Duxbury and co are aware of these observations and, if they possess any intelligence at all, 'senior management' will address this NOW.
Couldn't agree more mellow, I am sure they will get to the bottom of it and if they don't sort it out ,I am sure the Pozzo's will get someone who will .

There is much to be positive about .We have a decent squad with talented players , who we could only dream of attracting before. We have a developing ground , but we have the right owners, football men who are in it for the long haul . Watford do not need major surgery , a few additions and a few subtractions but whether Beppe ( who seems a decent guy) is the man to take on the task I for one don't know. One thing for sure if he doesn't I doubt he will make it to Christmas decent or not the Pozzo s' want Watford in the Prem. COYH
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: Very frank, fair and, to some degree, enlightening. Presumably Duxbury and co are aware of these observations and, if they possess any intelligence at all, 'senior management' will address this NOW.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more mellow, I am sure they will get to the bottom of it and if they don't sort it out ,I am sure the Pozzo's will get someone who will . There is much to be positive about .We have a decent squad with talented players , who we could only dream of attracting before. We have a developing ground , but we have the right owners, football men who are in it for the long haul . Watford do not need major surgery , a few additions and a few subtractions but whether Beppe ( who seems a decent guy) is the man to take on the task I for one don't know. One thing for sure if he doesn't I doubt he will make it to Christmas decent or not the Pozzo s' want Watford in the Prem. COYH mickallen57
  • Score: 7

4:19pm Sun 11 May 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Didn't quite get the Netherlands song last night to be honest
Didn't quite get the Netherlands song last night to be honest Hornet Cornet
  • Score: -8

4:26pm Sun 11 May 14

AbdiKate says...

manu says we've missed hogg, eustace and iwelumo. three players with english as their first language. coincidence?
manu says we've missed hogg, eustace and iwelumo. three players with english as their first language. coincidence? AbdiKate
  • Score: -4

5:01pm Sun 11 May 14

Nick El Greco says...

Tozser has looked far better than average but doesn't have championship experience and English isn't his first language. It has a lot to do with the type and quality of player and very little to do with their native tongue
Tozser has looked far better than average but doesn't have championship experience and English isn't his first language. It has a lot to do with the type and quality of player and very little to do with their native tongue Nick El Greco
  • Score: 13

7:14pm Sun 11 May 14

SAHornet says...

Nick El Greco wrote:
Tozser has looked far better than average but doesn't have championship experience and English isn't his first language. It has a lot to do with the type and quality of player and very little to do with their native tongue
Agree with you to an extent Nick. I don't think that we have quite the rich vein of quality players that some posters here think we do. We need to strengthen in nearly all areas and I'm afraid that will mean another large rotation of players. Pre-season will be vital this coming season. As for a manager that can take us there, I genuinely don't know if BS is the one to do that.
[quote][p][bold]Nick El Greco[/bold] wrote: Tozser has looked far better than average but doesn't have championship experience and English isn't his first language. It has a lot to do with the type and quality of player and very little to do with their native tongue[/p][/quote]Agree with you to an extent Nick. I don't think that we have quite the rich vein of quality players that some posters here think we do. We need to strengthen in nearly all areas and I'm afraid that will mean another large rotation of players. Pre-season will be vital this coming season. As for a manager that can take us there, I genuinely don't know if BS is the one to do that. SAHornet
  • Score: 2

7:19pm Sun 11 May 14

SAHornet says...

Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there.

Derby County
01 Grant
33 Wisdom
03 Forsyth
34 Thorne
06 Keogh
25 Buxton
08 Hendrick
19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' )
09 Martin
11 Russell (Bamford - 78' )
10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )
Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there. Derby County 01 Grant 33 Wisdom 03 Forsyth 34 Thorne 06 Keogh 25 Buxton 08 Hendrick 19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' ) 09 Martin 11 Russell (Bamford - 78' ) 10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' ) SAHornet
  • Score: 2

9:00pm Sun 11 May 14

Bush Hornet says...

SAHornet wrote:
Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there.

Derby County
01 Grant
33 Wisdom
03 Forsyth
34 Thorne
06 Keogh
25 Buxton
08 Hendrick
19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' )
09 Martin
11 Russell (Bamford - 78' )
10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )
Craig Forsyth. What a pass, what a player. Didn't he make a goal in the 1st leg too? Not bad for a left back
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there. Derby County 01 Grant 33 Wisdom 03 Forsyth 34 Thorne 06 Keogh 25 Buxton 08 Hendrick 19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' ) 09 Martin 11 Russell (Bamford - 78' ) 10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )[/p][/quote]Craig Forsyth. What a pass, what a player. Didn't he make a goal in the 1st leg too? Not bad for a left back Bush Hornet
  • Score: 1

9:31pm Sun 11 May 14

croxley46 says...

SAHornet wrote:
Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there.

Derby County
01 Grant
33 Wisdom
03 Forsyth
34 Thorne
06 Keogh
25 Buxton
08 Hendrick
19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' )
09 Martin
11 Russell (Bamford - 78' )
10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )
Yes, I thought Forsyth (cracking pass for 1st goal) and Thorne (cracking goal) both played well, also Eustace made a useful 5 mins cameo appearance at the end. Wonder if he'll retire from playing after Wembley and go into coaching - at Derby or Watford?? Can't see him playing in the P'ship if they get there.
Good to hear the co-commentator compare Derby to the Watford side of 2012/13 for playing exciting and entertaining football.
Pity Thorne's loan to the 'Orns wasn't extended to the end of this season - I was impressed by him (also Bellerin from Arsenal) and think he was our best holding midfielder which would have allowed Tozser to play more forward, if we could have had them both!
I hope we sign up Tozser and get Vydra back (and keep Deeney - wishful thinking!). What about Chalobah again? I think these, together with a fully fit Abdi, could make us contenders again for next season (plus a few other 'tweaks'!)
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there. Derby County 01 Grant 33 Wisdom 03 Forsyth 34 Thorne 06 Keogh 25 Buxton 08 Hendrick 19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' ) 09 Martin 11 Russell (Bamford - 78' ) 10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )[/p][/quote]Yes, I thought Forsyth (cracking pass for 1st goal) and Thorne (cracking goal) both played well, also Eustace made a useful 5 mins cameo appearance at the end. Wonder if he'll retire from playing after Wembley and go into coaching - at Derby or Watford?? Can't see him playing in the P'ship if they get there. Good to hear the co-commentator compare Derby to the Watford side of 2012/13 for playing exciting and entertaining football. Pity Thorne's loan to the 'Orns wasn't extended to the end of this season - I was impressed by him (also Bellerin from Arsenal) and think he was our best holding midfielder which would have allowed Tozser to play more forward, if we could have had them both! I hope we sign up Tozser and get Vydra back (and keep Deeney - wishful thinking!). What about Chalobah again? I think these, together with a fully fit Abdi, could make us contenders again for next season (plus a few other 'tweaks'!) croxley46
  • Score: -1

10:21pm Sun 11 May 14

SAHornet says...

I also listened with interest to Vincent Kompany talk about the great togetherness and camaraderie among the Man City team and couldn't help wondering if the same ethic prevailed within our own multi-national team. If not, who's job is it to gel players of many different nations together as one coherent team or squad ? The manager/head-coach, I guess - a job that neither GZ or BS has seemingly achieved this season. Just a thought.....
I also listened with interest to Vincent Kompany talk about the great togetherness and camaraderie among the Man City team and couldn't help wondering if the same ethic prevailed within our own multi-national team. If not, who's job is it to gel players of many different nations together as one coherent team or squad ? The manager/head-coach, I guess - a job that neither GZ or BS has seemingly achieved this season. Just a thought..... SAHornet
  • Score: 0

10:31pm Sun 11 May 14

Woodley hornet says...

Tim Sherwood I like his style and the way tells it I think he will be a great championship manager love it to be at the mighty horns . Open to debate have your say ?????????
Tim Sherwood I like his style and the way tells it I think he will be a great championship manager love it to be at the mighty horns . Open to debate have your say ????????? Woodley hornet
  • Score: -1

10:43pm Sun 11 May 14

cliff46 says...

Woodley hornet wrote:
Tim Sherwood I like his style and the way tells it I think he will be a great championship manager love it to be at the mighty horns . Open to debate have your say ?????????
I couldn't believe it when Steve Harrison was stupid enough to push him out of the club for a peanut fee all those years ago.
I am sure we won't have a British manager any time soon but like you I would be very happy to see us gamble on Sherwood if he leaves Spurs.
[quote][p][bold]Woodley hornet[/bold] wrote: Tim Sherwood I like his style and the way tells it I think he will be a great championship manager love it to be at the mighty horns . Open to debate have your say ?????????[/p][/quote]I couldn't believe it when Steve Harrison was stupid enough to push him out of the club for a peanut fee all those years ago. I am sure we won't have a British manager any time soon but like you I would be very happy to see us gamble on Sherwood if he leaves Spurs. cliff46
  • Score: 1

11:42pm Sun 11 May 14

Hornankey says...

croxley46 wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there.

Derby County
01 Grant
33 Wisdom
03 Forsyth
34 Thorne
06 Keogh
25 Buxton
08 Hendrick
19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' )
09 Martin
11 Russell (Bamford - 78' )
10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )
Yes, I thought Forsyth (cracking pass for 1st goal) and Thorne (cracking goal) both played well, also Eustace made a useful 5 mins cameo appearance at the end. Wonder if he'll retire from playing after Wembley and go into coaching - at Derby or Watford?? Can't see him playing in the P'ship if they get there.
Good to hear the co-commentator compare Derby to the Watford side of 2012/13 for playing exciting and entertaining football.
Pity Thorne's loan to the 'Orns wasn't extended to the end of this season - I was impressed by him (also Bellerin from Arsenal) and think he was our best holding midfielder which would have allowed Tozser to play more forward, if we could have had them both!
I hope we sign up Tozser and get Vydra back (and keep Deeney - wishful thinking!). What about Chalobah again? I think these, together with a fully fit Abdi, could make us contenders again for next season (plus a few other 'tweaks'!)
Derby got the benefit of Thorne's time at Watford. We 'nursed' him back to match-fitness after a long injury lay-off.
[quote][p][bold]croxley46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there. Derby County 01 Grant 33 Wisdom 03 Forsyth 34 Thorne 06 Keogh 25 Buxton 08 Hendrick 19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' ) 09 Martin 11 Russell (Bamford - 78' ) 10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )[/p][/quote]Yes, I thought Forsyth (cracking pass for 1st goal) and Thorne (cracking goal) both played well, also Eustace made a useful 5 mins cameo appearance at the end. Wonder if he'll retire from playing after Wembley and go into coaching - at Derby or Watford?? Can't see him playing in the P'ship if they get there. Good to hear the co-commentator compare Derby to the Watford side of 2012/13 for playing exciting and entertaining football. Pity Thorne's loan to the 'Orns wasn't extended to the end of this season - I was impressed by him (also Bellerin from Arsenal) and think he was our best holding midfielder which would have allowed Tozser to play more forward, if we could have had them both! I hope we sign up Tozser and get Vydra back (and keep Deeney - wishful thinking!). What about Chalobah again? I think these, together with a fully fit Abdi, could make us contenders again for next season (plus a few other 'tweaks'!)[/p][/quote]Derby got the benefit of Thorne's time at Watford. We 'nursed' him back to match-fitness after a long injury lay-off. Hornankey
  • Score: -1

4:21am Mon 12 May 14

gazmondo says...

looking at the derby team i would like to see us trying to sign there keeper,he was a youth player for us and he dreams of playing for us as being a watford fan,someone who supports the team will have more passion to do well,also craig mackail-smith might be a good player 2 go for another watford fan.
looking at the derby team i would like to see us trying to sign there keeper,he was a youth player for us and he dreams of playing for us as being a watford fan,someone who supports the team will have more passion to do well,also craig mackail-smith might be a good player 2 go for another watford fan. gazmondo
  • Score: 0

7:00am Mon 12 May 14

Meadey39 says...

SAHornet wrote:
Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there.

Derby County
01 Grant
33 Wisdom
03 Forsyth
34 Thorne
06 Keogh
25 Buxton
08 Hendrick
19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' )
09 Martin
11 Russell (Bamford - 78' )
10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )
Also, there is a manager (despite is failure at the very top), who knows how to get the best out of a TEAM. As I keep saying on these comment pages, if you keep overhauling your squad with players from a different footballing culture, then it will take too long for them to settle. We need a mix of quality youngsters, top championship players and a few with premiership experience
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there. Derby County 01 Grant 33 Wisdom 03 Forsyth 34 Thorne 06 Keogh 25 Buxton 08 Hendrick 19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' ) 09 Martin 11 Russell (Bamford - 78' ) 10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )[/p][/quote]Also, there is a manager (despite is failure at the very top), who knows how to get the best out of a TEAM. As I keep saying on these comment pages, if you keep overhauling your squad with players from a different footballing culture, then it will take too long for them to settle. We need a mix of quality youngsters, top championship players and a few with premiership experience Meadey39
  • Score: 0

9:38am Mon 12 May 14

Harry's Bar says...

andyhooked wrote:
You do not make such comments during the season. It makes a bad situation even worse. Now we are raking over the ashes after a disappionting season. Nani must have a big part of the blame No stable squad and a rotation of some rubbish loans and no wonder Sannino having no hair, he pulled it out in frustration. Beppe and the club model does not cut it for me. Back to basics with a manager that knows english football and a manager makes the choices of whom comes in and who goes not a blinking administrator.
That's not going to happen though. For me Nani is the one that should go. What the hell is he doing asking Almunia for advice during the season? The only person he should be speaking to at the training ground is the Head Coach. And why is Nani deciding the players should train after the agreed end of season? The man is an absolute idiot, he's up there with Chovanec.
[quote][p][bold]andyhooked[/bold] wrote: You do not make such comments during the season. It makes a bad situation even worse. Now we are raking over the ashes after a disappionting season. Nani must have a big part of the blame No stable squad and a rotation of some rubbish loans and no wonder Sannino having no hair, he pulled it out in frustration. Beppe and the club model does not cut it for me. Back to basics with a manager that knows english football and a manager makes the choices of whom comes in and who goes not a blinking administrator.[/p][/quote]That's not going to happen though. For me Nani is the one that should go. What the hell is he doing asking Almunia for advice during the season? The only person he should be speaking to at the training ground is the Head Coach. And why is Nani deciding the players should train after the agreed end of season? The man is an absolute idiot, he's up there with Chovanec. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 1

9:55am Mon 12 May 14

gloryhornet4 says...

SAHornet wrote:
Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there.

Derby County
01 Grant
33 Wisdom
03 Forsyth
34 Thorne
06 Keogh
25 Buxton
08 Hendrick
19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' )
09 Martin
11 Russell (Bamford - 78' )
10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )
SAH-

Very funny - good use of English.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there. Derby County 01 Grant 33 Wisdom 03 Forsyth 34 Thorne 06 Keogh 25 Buxton 08 Hendrick 19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' ) 09 Martin 11 Russell (Bamford - 78' ) 10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )[/p][/quote]SAH- Very funny - good use of English. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 0

11:30am Mon 12 May 14

srfc says...

SAHornet wrote:
Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there.

Derby County
01 Grant
33 Wisdom
03 Forsyth
34 Thorne
06 Keogh
25 Buxton
08 Hendrick
19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' )
09 Martin
11 Russell (Bamford - 78' )
10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )
That's also the team that's gonna send them down! English players will get you out of the championship but oversea's will help keep you in the PL, that is the way of the world these days, It's a mixture of both. Just a reminder but in last year's play-off final we had the similar mix and nobody complained (except Holloway), it was only Zola's tactical failings that let the side down (never having a plan B once we had been worked out). Alumnia is sounding off because he's leaving. He is part of the dead wood who should be going, how many 'illnesses' did he suffer in the season, so as team captain is it not your job to make your team work harder!?

Almunia
Doyley,
Ekstrand,
Cassetti
Anya,
Chalobah,
Hogg,
Pudil
Abdi
Vydra,
Deeney
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: Just out of interest I have cut and pasted below the Derby side that just trounced The Nigels 6-2 on agg. Read the names, not a foreigner amongst them. Also 3 former Watford players( incld. Thorne) in there. Derby County 01 Grant 33 Wisdom 03 Forsyth 34 Thorne 06 Keogh 25 Buxton 08 Hendrick 19 Hughes (Eustace - 85' ) 09 Martin 11 Russell (Bamford - 78' ) 10 Ward (Dawkins - 67' )[/p][/quote]That's also the team that's gonna send them down! English players will get you out of the championship but oversea's will help keep you in the PL, that is the way of the world these days, It's a mixture of both. Just a reminder but in last year's play-off final we had the similar mix and nobody complained (except Holloway), it was only Zola's tactical failings that let the side down (never having a plan B once we had been worked out). Alumnia is sounding off because he's leaving. He is part of the dead wood who should be going, how many 'illnesses' did he suffer in the season, so as team captain is it not your job to make your team work harder!? Almunia Doyley, Ekstrand, Cassetti Anya, Chalobah, Hogg, Pudil Abdi Vydra, Deeney srfc
  • Score: -1

12:54pm Mon 12 May 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

Got to remember that the payers we are getting from Udinese are not good enough to be in their first team in the lower/mid Serie A. They are good but not great and I'm not sure if they good enough to get us up, let alone stay up. Would we get promoted if we recruited the reserve team of a lower/mid prem team eg west ham, stoke ? Probably not, so why should we with Udinese's reserves ? As soon as one (eg Vydra, or this year possibly Angella) shines he's off. We need to add a few stars into the mix if they seriously want us promoted.
Got to remember that the payers we are getting from Udinese are not good enough to be in their first team in the lower/mid Serie A. They are good but not great and I'm not sure if they good enough to get us up, let alone stay up. Would we get promoted if we recruited the reserve team of a lower/mid prem team eg west ham, stoke ? Probably not, so why should we with Udinese's reserves ? As soon as one (eg Vydra, or this year possibly Angella) shines he's off. We need to add a few stars into the mix if they seriously want us promoted. Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 1

1:44pm Mon 12 May 14

SAHornet says...

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
Got to remember that the payers we are getting from Udinese are not good enough to be in their first team in the lower/mid Serie A. They are good but not great and I'm not sure if they good enough to get us up, let alone stay up. Would we get promoted if we recruited the reserve team of a lower/mid prem team eg west ham, stoke ? Probably not, so why should we with Udinese's reserves ? As soon as one (eg Vydra, or this year possibly Angella) shines he's off. We need to add a few stars into the mix if they seriously want us promoted.
Agree entirely, as I said in an earlier post, I don't think our team/squad is as good as some on here believe. We need to substantially strengthen in all areas but first, let's start with Mr. Nani. That can only help.
[quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: Got to remember that the payers we are getting from Udinese are not good enough to be in their first team in the lower/mid Serie A. They are good but not great and I'm not sure if they good enough to get us up, let alone stay up. Would we get promoted if we recruited the reserve team of a lower/mid prem team eg west ham, stoke ? Probably not, so why should we with Udinese's reserves ? As soon as one (eg Vydra, or this year possibly Angella) shines he's off. We need to add a few stars into the mix if they seriously want us promoted.[/p][/quote]Agree entirely, as I said in an earlier post, I don't think our team/squad is as good as some on here believe. We need to substantially strengthen in all areas but first, let's start with Mr. Nani. That can only help. SAHornet
  • Score: 0

1:46pm Mon 12 May 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

ps anyone see Joe Garners goal vs Rotherham ? F*** me. Amazing what a bit of confidence can do for a striker.
ps anyone see Joe Garners goal vs Rotherham ? F*** me. Amazing what a bit of confidence can do for a striker. Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 2

8:32pm Mon 12 May 14

EltonForever says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Didn't quite get the Netherlands song last night to be honest
Hey there Cornetto!

What about the Austrian song then!

Tell me you didn't like that!
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Didn't quite get the Netherlands song last night to be honest[/p][/quote]Hey there Cornetto! What about the Austrian song then! Tell me you didn't like that! EltonForever
  • Score: -1

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