Watford fan Lee Coan says the Hornets' awful display against Huddersfield Town could have a big impact on the club over the summer

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Like the season as a whole, Saturday's game should have been better.

I arrived at The Vic full of optimism and looking forward to the Hornets signing off with some swagger.

I do not really know why I had any confidence, it was probably down in no small part to me being a complete idiot.

The game was awful. We were as bad as we have been all season against Huddersfield, even in the darkest hours of our beloved Gianfranco Zola's unfortunate demise.

No passion, no desire and countless wayward passes from players who are arguably amongst the most talented we have had at Watford in a generation.

I can handle Devon White, Scott Fitzgerald and big Mickey Quinn scuffing a ball and falling over but when players as glorious as Christian Battocchio look like they have never seen a football before, it is enough to make a grown ‘Orn cry.

Whether the players were sulking because of the possibility of extra training, who knows? But it was not good enough.

The game meant nothing for either side, yet by the end of the 90 minutes it felt oddly huge, like a match that could change everything and probably not for the better.

The summers of many people in and around Watford Football Club surely were altered by the sheer rot of that second half.

We have to remember, this is not the Watford of old, we are not just bumbling along season-to-season any more.

Some very serious people have serious amounts of money at stake and I am sure that awful 45 minutes hurt them as much as it upset me.

Amidst all the gloom, huge credit needs to go to a certain Mr Harold the Hornet. I don't know who is in the suit these days but I would like to buy them a drink.

In a game that was as painful as a kick to the groin, that funny mascot stole Huddersfield beach balls, danced in a grass skirt and did things beyond the call of duty of a giant furry insect trying to arouse some depressed supporters.

Our singing section the 1881 also were fantastic. These are a group stuck in arguably the worst seats of all the ground.

Yet when a season that promised so much fizzled out in such a terrible manner, they swallowed their pride and sung louder than they have all year.

They chanted songs they have invented themselves, whilst the rest of us mumbled and groaned about Jonathan Bond not being quite as good as we would like him to be. It was great, really it was.

Likewise, there was something quite beautfiul about the lap of honour that followed the 1881's singing in the face of sheer misery.

Few Watford fans remained but it was perhaps the core. These are the fans who were there in League One, who have been to places like Carlisle United and Grimsby Town away.

The fans who “bleed Watford so hard" they are deeply worried at just how they will cope with a whole summer without watching silly yellow men fail to kick a ball properly.

Yes, it was a lap of honour that was hard to watch at times but it did feel like a significant moment those who remained all shared together as one - players, fans and staff hurting together.

It was in truth the only way to end such a season. If nothing else, the smile on the lad walking out of The Rookery wearing a Troy Deeney boot will live with me until August at least.

The sad wave goodbye from Manuel Almunia, the agony on Beppe's face, Danny Pudil and his boy - oh Watford FC, nothing else could ever pull at the heart strings like you do.

Next season will of course be better. At least the lap of honour will do a full lap - four stands instead of three.

One of those stands will be called The Graham Taylor Stand. This is progress people. This is Watford moving forward in a way arguably more important than going up to the Premier League.

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11:44am Tue 6 May 14

Hornankey says...

A dreadful performance capping an inadequate season but things move on very quickly in this game. There are a number of issues now very evident to us all. How they are addressed by the Pozzos will be a give us a good indication of their objectives as owners of the club.
A dreadful performance capping an inadequate season but things move on very quickly in this game. There are a number of issues now very evident to us all. How they are addressed by the Pozzos will be a give us a good indication of their objectives as owners of the club. Hornankey
  • Score: 31

12:24pm Tue 6 May 14

bigdave8 says...

Still hurting a little from Saturday . First time I have left early let alone left before the end of season lap of honour. Even stayed and clapped boys off when we have gone down. But the lack of effort on show Saturday was too much for me .
Still hurting a little from Saturday . First time I have left early let alone left before the end of season lap of honour. Even stayed and clapped boys off when we have gone down. But the lack of effort on show Saturday was too much for me . bigdave8
  • Score: 44

12:33pm Tue 6 May 14

Oracledave says...

Hornankey wrote:
A dreadful performance capping an inadequate season but things move on very quickly in this game. There are a number of issues now very evident to us all. How they are addressed by the Pozzos will be a give us a good indication of their objectives as owners of the club.
No it will not. The Pozzo's objectives are crystal clear and have been from the outset. What it will do is put their judgement and the overall recruitment policy in the spotlight !
[quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: A dreadful performance capping an inadequate season but things move on very quickly in this game. There are a number of issues now very evident to us all. How they are addressed by the Pozzos will be a give us a good indication of their objectives as owners of the club.[/p][/quote]No it will not. The Pozzo's objectives are crystal clear and have been from the outset. What it will do is put their judgement and the overall recruitment policy in the spotlight ! Oracledave
  • Score: 0

12:52pm Tue 6 May 14

rayman01 says...

Ideal opportunity now to sort out the issues between now and August. Tozser signing permanently would be a good start. Jury is out on Sannino but if does stay his authority needs Pozzos support. All the players need to be committedto the cause - if not they should go. Luv the Horns!
Ideal opportunity now to sort out the issues between now and August. Tozser signing permanently would be a good start. Jury is out on Sannino but if does stay his authority needs Pozzos support. All the players need to be committedto the cause - if not they should go. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 11

1:46pm Tue 6 May 14

Alban Hornet says...

High praise for the 1881 and it's appreciated! I agree about the singing during the lap of honour, a lot of the fans that were left in the Rookery seemed to join in and it felt like quite a significant moment at the time.

Also, I caught Deeney's boot and tried it on for size in the Rookery concourse so I wonder if I'm that 'lad'.
High praise for the 1881 and it's appreciated! I agree about the singing during the lap of honour, a lot of the fans that were left in the Rookery seemed to join in and it felt like quite a significant moment at the time. Also, I caught Deeney's boot and tried it on for size in the Rookery concourse so I wonder if I'm that 'lad'. Alban Hornet
  • Score: 9

1:59pm Tue 6 May 14

Surbiton says...

A fair and well balanced article Lee. I agree with just about everything you said. Incidently, Harry is currently "Gareth" who has been holding that role with great distinction for a number of years. One member of WFC who always can be relied upon to perform 100% at every game!
A fair and well balanced article Lee. I agree with just about everything you said. Incidently, Harry is currently "Gareth" who has been holding that role with great distinction for a number of years. One member of WFC who always can be relied upon to perform 100% at every game! Surbiton
  • Score: 33

2:03pm Tue 6 May 14

D.unstable says...

Alban Hornet wrote:
High praise for the 1881 and it's appreciated! I agree about the singing during the lap of honour, a lot of the fans that were left in the Rookery seemed to join in and it felt like quite a significant moment at the time. Also, I caught Deeney's boot and tried it on for size in the Rookery concourse so I wonder if I'm that 'lad'.
If the boot fits you've got the job!!!
[quote][p][bold]Alban Hornet[/bold] wrote: High praise for the 1881 and it's appreciated! I agree about the singing during the lap of honour, a lot of the fans that were left in the Rookery seemed to join in and it felt like quite a significant moment at the time. Also, I caught Deeney's boot and tried it on for size in the Rookery concourse so I wonder if I'm that 'lad'.[/p][/quote]If the boot fits you've got the job!!! D.unstable
  • Score: 6

2:29pm Tue 6 May 14

albertmcglenaghan says...

Disgraceful performance Saturday lacking commitment, caring and professionalism. No excuses, whatever the rumoured rows in the run up to the game. I reckon as many as 15 players will be on their way in the summer, some not being signed following their loan period, while others are just not good enough or past it. So wave goodbye to: Almunia, Brown, Belkalem, Merkel, Riera, Park, Diakite, Cassetti, Nosworthy, Hall, Neill, Iriney, Fabbrini, Acuna, Smith.,
Disgraceful performance Saturday lacking commitment, caring and professionalism. No excuses, whatever the rumoured rows in the run up to the game. I reckon as many as 15 players will be on their way in the summer, some not being signed following their loan period, while others are just not good enough or past it. So wave goodbye to: Almunia, Brown, Belkalem, Merkel, Riera, Park, Diakite, Cassetti, Nosworthy, Hall, Neill, Iriney, Fabbrini, Acuna, Smith., albertmcglenaghan
  • Score: 4

3:19pm Tue 6 May 14

andyhooked says...

Bless the Pozzos but this season should be a lesson learnt as we have gone backwards rather than come anywhere near the dizzy heights of last season. Questions:
- does the football model work with Nani deciding who is in and who is out for this season and next season, given that the bad imports outweigh the few good imports?
- why does it appear that both Zola and now Sannino are unable to inspire the current squad?
- most importantly,how can things be turned around without major surgery on the footballing side from Nani down to individual players , made worse should the decision be made to let Troy go?
- will I be there next season? YES!
Bless the Pozzos but this season should be a lesson learnt as we have gone backwards rather than come anywhere near the dizzy heights of last season. Questions: - does the football model work with Nani deciding who is in and who is out for this season and next season, given that the bad imports outweigh the few good imports? - why does it appear that both Zola and now Sannino are unable to inspire the current squad? - most importantly,how can things be turned around without major surgery on the footballing side from Nani down to individual players , made worse should the decision be made to let Troy go? - will I be there next season? YES! andyhooked
  • Score: 4

4:17pm Tue 6 May 14

Surbiton says...

albertmcglenaghan wrote:
Disgraceful performance Saturday lacking commitment, caring and professionalism. No excuses, whatever the rumoured rows in the run up to the game. I reckon as many as 15 players will be on their way in the summer, some not being signed following their loan period, while others are just not good enough or past it. So wave goodbye to: Almunia, Brown, Belkalem, Merkel, Riera, Park, Diakite, Cassetti, Nosworthy, Hall, Neill, Iriney, Fabbrini, Acuna, Smith.,
Would agree with most of them but not Merkel and Riera. Merkel is still very young and could be developed into the English way of football. Riera clearly knows his way around and his skills/ experience are invaluable. However, attitude and commitment have become a key issue with our imports. if not 100% committed to our cause then goodbye to whoever you are. I don't ever want to experience another season like that again. So much expected, so little delivered.
[quote][p][bold]albertmcglenaghan[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful performance Saturday lacking commitment, caring and professionalism. No excuses, whatever the rumoured rows in the run up to the game. I reckon as many as 15 players will be on their way in the summer, some not being signed following their loan period, while others are just not good enough or past it. So wave goodbye to: Almunia, Brown, Belkalem, Merkel, Riera, Park, Diakite, Cassetti, Nosworthy, Hall, Neill, Iriney, Fabbrini, Acuna, Smith.,[/p][/quote]Would agree with most of them but not Merkel and Riera. Merkel is still very young and could be developed into the English way of football. Riera clearly knows his way around and his skills/ experience are invaluable. However, attitude and commitment have become a key issue with our imports. if not 100% committed to our cause then goodbye to whoever you are. I don't ever want to experience another season like that again. So much expected, so little delivered. Surbiton
  • Score: 9

4:17pm Tue 6 May 14

Surbiton says...

albertmcglenaghan wrote:
Disgraceful performance Saturday lacking commitment, caring and professionalism. No excuses, whatever the rumoured rows in the run up to the game. I reckon as many as 15 players will be on their way in the summer, some not being signed following their loan period, while others are just not good enough or past it. So wave goodbye to: Almunia, Brown, Belkalem, Merkel, Riera, Park, Diakite, Cassetti, Nosworthy, Hall, Neill, Iriney, Fabbrini, Acuna, Smith.,
Would agree with most of them but not Merkel and Riera. Merkel is still very young and could be developed into the English way of football. Riera clearly knows his way around and his skills/ experience are invaluable. However, attitude and commitment have become a key issue with our imports. if not 100% committed to our cause then goodbye to whoever you are. I don't ever want to experience another season like that again. So much expected, so little delivered.
[quote][p][bold]albertmcglenaghan[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful performance Saturday lacking commitment, caring and professionalism. No excuses, whatever the rumoured rows in the run up to the game. I reckon as many as 15 players will be on their way in the summer, some not being signed following their loan period, while others are just not good enough or past it. So wave goodbye to: Almunia, Brown, Belkalem, Merkel, Riera, Park, Diakite, Cassetti, Nosworthy, Hall, Neill, Iriney, Fabbrini, Acuna, Smith.,[/p][/quote]Would agree with most of them but not Merkel and Riera. Merkel is still very young and could be developed into the English way of football. Riera clearly knows his way around and his skills/ experience are invaluable. However, attitude and commitment have become a key issue with our imports. if not 100% committed to our cause then goodbye to whoever you are. I don't ever want to experience another season like that again. So much expected, so little delivered. Surbiton
  • Score: 3

4:53pm Tue 6 May 14

mk6 hornet says...

Very well written article.I think the Pozzo family have underestimated how tough and unforgiving this league is.

Some meticulous planning is required over the summer.

I would also leave Beppe in charge,lets see what he can do and what he has learnt.
Very well written article.I think the Pozzo family have underestimated how tough and unforgiving this league is. Some meticulous planning is required over the summer. I would also leave Beppe in charge,lets see what he can do and what he has learnt. mk6 hornet
  • Score: -3

5:17pm Tue 6 May 14

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny says...

Couldn't agree any more with that Lee.


No matter how bad it was I was not leaving early, I remember being 4-0 down at Chelsea at half time and wanting to leave but sitting through it. I have seen far worse teams in far worst leagues.

I stayed to applaud the lads on the lap of 'honour', not because of the abysmal 1-4 defeat, not because of the fact we have lost our last 4 but to applaud and that the likes of Almunia and Cassetti for their last 2 seasons, quality players we have had the joy of watching and representing our club (who we may not see in a Watford shirt again) and congratulate Troy after another amazing season. Also to thank Beppe for his efforts, which ultimately came up short in a very strange season, where at the end of the day we just couldn't pick ourselves up and give it another go following one of the best seasons in our history.

I'm sure many of our new found fans did leave long before the end and I will never slate any one of our fans for leaving early, you pays your money you takes your choice, but I will always be there, full support and the few of us who have been around for all these years will too.

A summer sort out, a few surprises in store I'm sure and a World Cup to forget about things, we will be raring to go again come August!!!
Couldn't agree any more with that Lee. No matter how bad it was I was not leaving early, I remember being 4-0 down at Chelsea at half time and wanting to leave but sitting through it. I have seen far worse teams in far worst leagues. I stayed to applaud the lads on the lap of 'honour', not because of the abysmal 1-4 defeat, not because of the fact we have lost our last 4 but to applaud and that the likes of Almunia and Cassetti for their last 2 seasons, quality players we have had the joy of watching and representing our club (who we may not see in a Watford shirt again) and congratulate Troy after another amazing season. Also to thank Beppe for his efforts, which ultimately came up short in a very strange season, where at the end of the day we just couldn't pick ourselves up and give it another go following one of the best seasons in our history. I'm sure many of our new found fans did leave long before the end and I will never slate any one of our fans for leaving early, you pays your money you takes your choice, but I will always be there, full support and the few of us who have been around for all these years will too. A summer sort out, a few surprises in store I'm sure and a World Cup to forget about things, we will be raring to go again come August!!! Ronny oh Ronny Ronny
  • Score: 25

5:24pm Tue 6 May 14

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny says...

albertmcglenaghan wrote:
Disgraceful performance Saturday lacking commitment, caring and professionalism. No excuses, whatever the rumoured rows in the run up to the game. I reckon as many as 15 players will be on their way in the summer, some not being signed following their loan period, while others are just not good enough or past it. So wave goodbye to: Almunia, Brown, Belkalem, Merkel, Riera, Park, Diakite, Cassetti, Nosworthy, Hall, Neill, Iriney, Fabbrini, Acuna, Smith.,
Totally agree they will be the obvious ones leaving, Deeney and Angella could be (hopefully not) added, depending how much money is offered.

No great loss there though apart from Almunia, Cassetti and Riera.

None of those were to be blamed against Huddersfield though were they............ Out of those 15 only 2 played and Diakite was our best player when he came on.

In what will now be their 3rd season we would hope they now have some idea of what is needed and I believe we will see some exciting additions, with a more solid season in store.
[quote][p][bold]albertmcglenaghan[/bold] wrote: Disgraceful performance Saturday lacking commitment, caring and professionalism. No excuses, whatever the rumoured rows in the run up to the game. I reckon as many as 15 players will be on their way in the summer, some not being signed following their loan period, while others are just not good enough or past it. So wave goodbye to: Almunia, Brown, Belkalem, Merkel, Riera, Park, Diakite, Cassetti, Nosworthy, Hall, Neill, Iriney, Fabbrini, Acuna, Smith.,[/p][/quote]Totally agree they will be the obvious ones leaving, Deeney and Angella could be (hopefully not) added, depending how much money is offered. No great loss there though apart from Almunia, Cassetti and Riera. None of those were to be blamed against Huddersfield though were they............ Out of those 15 only 2 played and Diakite was our best player when he came on. In what will now be their 3rd season we would hope they now have some idea of what is needed and I believe we will see some exciting additions, with a more solid season in store. Ronny oh Ronny Ronny
  • Score: 3

5:35pm Tue 6 May 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

mk6 hornet wrote:
Very well written article.I think the Pozzo family have underestimated how tough and unforgiving this league is.

Some meticulous planning is required over the summer.

I would also leave Beppe in charge,lets see what he can do and what he has learnt.
no, let's not.
[quote][p][bold]mk6 hornet[/bold] wrote: Very well written article.I think the Pozzo family have underestimated how tough and unforgiving this league is. Some meticulous planning is required over the summer. I would also leave Beppe in charge,lets see what he can do and what he has learnt.[/p][/quote]no, let's not. Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 5

5:42pm Tue 6 May 14

SAHornet says...

Question for Mr. Nani:- When Vydra left, why did you not sign a similar player with some speed and guile to replace him? Hitherto, the combination of Deeney and Vydra was the main reason for our success and yet you failed in your brief to recruit a replacement thus condemning us to a season of disappointment and at times, embarrassment. In the real world you would have resigned long ago or been sacked.
Question for Mr. Nani:- When Vydra left, why did you not sign a similar player with some speed and guile to replace him? Hitherto, the combination of Deeney and Vydra was the main reason for our success and yet you failed in your brief to recruit a replacement thus condemning us to a season of disappointment and at times, embarrassment. In the real world you would have resigned long ago or been sacked. SAHornet
  • Score: 8

6:31pm Tue 6 May 14

rousman 2 says...

We finished 42 point's behind Leicester who learnt from last season's mistakes,question is have we ?
We finished 42 point's behind Leicester who learnt from last season's mistakes,question is have we ? rousman 2
  • Score: 10

6:51pm Tue 6 May 14

allgood says...

At least expectation will be low next season.
At least expectation will be low next season. allgood
  • Score: 7

6:54pm Tue 6 May 14

UZZY says...

bigdave8 wrote:
Still hurting a little from Saturday . First time I have left early let alone left before the end of season lap of honour. Even stayed and clapped boys off when we have gone down. But the lack of effort on show Saturday was too much for me .
For the first time in 20 yrs l couldnt be bothered to attend a match at the Vic, but l had had enough of players not bothering so l couldnt be bothered ethier , it looks like lt was the right decisson not to attend, no disrespect to those few players who tried......roll on next season and a fresh start.
[quote][p][bold]bigdave8[/bold] wrote: Still hurting a little from Saturday . First time I have left early let alone left before the end of season lap of honour. Even stayed and clapped boys off when we have gone down. But the lack of effort on show Saturday was too much for me .[/p][/quote]For the first time in 20 yrs l couldnt be bothered to attend a match at the Vic, but l had had enough of players not bothering so l couldnt be bothered ethier , it looks like lt was the right decisson not to attend, no disrespect to those few players who tried......roll on next season and a fresh start. UZZY
  • Score: 1

8:35pm Tue 6 May 14

Scullion says...

Bring back Malky...Why not? Has to be better than Beppe?
Bring back Malky...Why not? Has to be better than Beppe? Scullion
  • Score: 7

8:49pm Tue 6 May 14

VOReason says...

While a bit more scepticism will exist than 12 months ago we will all get a little excited when Italians we have barely heard of and young South Americans get linked with us pre season..,

I may well be an eternal optimist but I looked forward to 2pm team news as much last season as the year before hoping our talented foreigners would put on a performance ...

I struggled to do that pre pozzos so I will keep the faith ...

Just hope a few lessons have been learnt all round!
While a bit more scepticism will exist than 12 months ago we will all get a little excited when Italians we have barely heard of and young South Americans get linked with us pre season.., I may well be an eternal optimist but I looked forward to 2pm team news as much last season as the year before hoping our talented foreigners would put on a performance ... I struggled to do that pre pozzos so I will keep the faith ... Just hope a few lessons have been learnt all round! VOReason
  • Score: 4

10:07pm Tue 6 May 14

Monstermunch17 says...

Everyone who went all giddy when the Pozzos took over, promptly sacked our last proper manager after a decent season, should be feeling sheepish right now. Happy for these egotistical and divisive owners to close our academy, allow home-grown players to leave and make our club a laughing stock, now you are left with the club you deserve.
Everyone who went all giddy when the Pozzos took over, promptly sacked our last proper manager after a decent season, should be feeling sheepish right now. Happy for these egotistical and divisive owners to close our academy, allow home-grown players to leave and make our club a laughing stock, now you are left with the club you deserve. Monstermunch17
  • Score: -32

10:22pm Tue 6 May 14

D.unstable says...

I'm still feeling really let down by such an inept and gutless final performance on Saturday. If the boys had put the effort in and lost 1-0 so be it, but I have never in 35 years of watching my team witnessed such a 'can't be arsed' attitude from so many. I feel for the 2 young scholars making their debut's and being associated with that and instead of it being a special occasion will be one to distance themselves from.

I think this article describes well a number of the feelings by fellow supporters and I hope that it brings wholesale changes to ensure this is never repeated.

Players have to remember what a privileged lifestyle they lead as a result of the fans that follow their teams up and down the country. Those fans deserve at least 100% honesty and commitment in return. Many supporters spend the majority of their disposable income in following their teams, maybe something the modern player will never understand or experience.
I'm still feeling really let down by such an inept and gutless final performance on Saturday. If the boys had put the effort in and lost 1-0 so be it, but I have never in 35 years of watching my team witnessed such a 'can't be arsed' attitude from so many. I feel for the 2 young scholars making their debut's and being associated with that and instead of it being a special occasion will be one to distance themselves from. I think this article describes well a number of the feelings by fellow supporters and I hope that it brings wholesale changes to ensure this is never repeated. Players have to remember what a privileged lifestyle they lead as a result of the fans that follow their teams up and down the country. Those fans deserve at least 100% honesty and commitment in return. Many supporters spend the majority of their disposable income in following their teams, maybe something the modern player will never understand or experience. D.unstable
  • Score: 7

10:29pm Tue 6 May 14

D.unstable says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Everyone who went all giddy when the Pozzos took over, promptly sacked our last proper manager after a decent season, should be feeling sheepish right now. Happy for these egotistical and divisive owners to close our academy, allow home-grown players to leave and make our club a laughing stock, now you are left with the club you deserve.
Bassini, is that you???

Seriously, overall I'm happy, I still have a club to support.
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Everyone who went all giddy when the Pozzos took over, promptly sacked our last proper manager after a decent season, should be feeling sheepish right now. Happy for these egotistical and divisive owners to close our academy, allow home-grown players to leave and make our club a laughing stock, now you are left with the club you deserve.[/p][/quote]Bassini, is that you??? Seriously, overall I'm happy, I still have a club to support. D.unstable
  • Score: 9

11:39pm Tue 6 May 14

Wimborne Hornet says...

Agree with the comments on Harry the Hornet. He's a real guilty pleasure and as a 50 year old in the Upper Taylor he consistently makes me laugh. The throwing the ball into the building site, the coyness at his name being chanted, the "starting the lawn mower" mime. Of course I watch every second of the football, but this season there seem to have been just a few more Harry moments. His twitter feed is pretty good too.

More next year please, but hopefully the on pitch stuff will be so absorbing he'll become less important to enjoy the day!
Agree with the comments on Harry the Hornet. He's a real guilty pleasure and as a 50 year old in the Upper Taylor he consistently makes me laugh. The throwing the ball into the building site, the coyness at his name being chanted, the "starting the lawn mower" mime. Of course I watch every second of the football, but this season there seem to have been just a few more Harry moments. His twitter feed is pretty good too. More next year please, but hopefully the on pitch stuff will be so absorbing he'll become less important to enjoy the day! Wimborne Hornet
  • Score: 9

11:41pm Tue 6 May 14

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Everyone who went all giddy when the Pozzos took over, promptly sacked our last proper manager after a decent season, should be feeling sheepish right now. Happy for these egotistical and divisive owners to close our academy, allow home-grown players to leave and make our club a laughing stock, now you are left with the club you deserve.
Hahahaha nice try!

Close our academy?? What are you on?

Before you go trolling in future I suggest you get your facts straight!
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Everyone who went all giddy when the Pozzos took over, promptly sacked our last proper manager after a decent season, should be feeling sheepish right now. Happy for these egotistical and divisive owners to close our academy, allow home-grown players to leave and make our club a laughing stock, now you are left with the club you deserve.[/p][/quote]Hahahaha nice try! Close our academy?? What are you on? Before you go trolling in future I suggest you get your facts straight! Ronny oh Ronny Ronny
  • Score: 6

11:45pm Tue 6 May 14

croxley46 says...

SAHornet wrote:
Question for Mr. Nani:- When Vydra left, why did you not sign a similar player with some speed and guile to replace him? Hitherto, the combination of Deeney and Vydra was the main reason for our success and yet you failed in your brief to recruit a replacement thus condemning us to a season of disappointment and at times, embarrassment. In the real world you would have resigned long ago or been sacked.
Couldn't agree more, SAHornet.
Doubt if Vydra would return now though, with or without Deeney.
Also, with Chalobah (what HAS happened to him? - last I heard on loan to M'boro') and a fit Abdi, plus Hogg (thought he played well against us on Sat, just sitting there in midfield controlling things) it would have been great to build a team round them again, but, alas, circumstances change.
Let's just hope we clear out the dead-wood and bring in some strong replacements, the majority of them British, no more Italian 2nd-raters please, and order a taxi for Nani.
The manager/coach, with knowledge and experience of the Championship, should be the one identifying new players please.
By the way, I'd give MOM on Sat to Harry the Hornet, not Deeney. Absolutely brilliant and lifted some of the gloom after such a woeful team performance. Is he really The STIG in disguise?!
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: Question for Mr. Nani:- When Vydra left, why did you not sign a similar player with some speed and guile to replace him? Hitherto, the combination of Deeney and Vydra was the main reason for our success and yet you failed in your brief to recruit a replacement thus condemning us to a season of disappointment and at times, embarrassment. In the real world you would have resigned long ago or been sacked.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, SAHornet. Doubt if Vydra would return now though, with or without Deeney. Also, with Chalobah (what HAS happened to him? - last I heard on loan to M'boro') and a fit Abdi, plus Hogg (thought he played well against us on Sat, just sitting there in midfield controlling things) it would have been great to build a team round them again, but, alas, circumstances change. Let's just hope we clear out the dead-wood and bring in some strong replacements, the majority of them British, no more Italian 2nd-raters please, and order a taxi for Nani. The manager/coach, with knowledge and experience of the Championship, should be the one identifying new players please. By the way, I'd give MOM on Sat to Harry the Hornet, not Deeney. Absolutely brilliant and lifted some of the gloom after such a woeful team performance. Is he really The STIG in disguise?! croxley46
  • Score: 3

1:16am Wed 7 May 14

Roger Joslyn says...

In reality, to get out of this league you need a compact, tight, motivated squad ala Burnley this year or Cardiff of last year. Well drilled, organised and disciplined and often with a British manager. Which means making purchases of known championship quality that has two 20+ goalscorers and a tight defense. This model, i'm afraid, isn't the Pozzo way and never will be. We will continue to see players from their network coming in and out until we get it right. There's still a rollercoster to enjoy and all life long 'orns will know exactly what I mean!
In reality, to get out of this league you need a compact, tight, motivated squad ala Burnley this year or Cardiff of last year. Well drilled, organised and disciplined and often with a British manager. Which means making purchases of known championship quality that has two 20+ goalscorers and a tight defense. This model, i'm afraid, isn't the Pozzo way and never will be. We will continue to see players from their network coming in and out until we get it right. There's still a rollercoster to enjoy and all life long 'orns will know exactly what I mean! Roger Joslyn
  • Score: 3

7:01am Wed 7 May 14

robo bovingdon says...

i did not stay behind first time in over 60 years i got no support from the team but feel the Pozzo family know what needs to be done and will i am sure act swiftly so we can prepare early for the new season.
i did not stay behind first time in over 60 years i got no support from the team but feel the Pozzo family know what needs to be done and will i am sure act swiftly so we can prepare early for the new season. robo bovingdon
  • Score: 1

7:09am Wed 7 May 14

northofwatfordpete says...

I work with a Blackpool fan and he would love to be in our position.
I work with a Blackpool fan and he would love to be in our position. northofwatfordpete
  • Score: 7

10:18am Wed 7 May 14

MJ1 says...

andyhooked wrote:
Bless the Pozzos but this season should be a lesson learnt as we have gone backwards rather than come anywhere near the dizzy heights of last season. Questions: - does the football model work with Nani deciding who is in and who is out for this season and next season, given that the bad imports outweigh the few good imports? - why does it appear that both Zola and now Sannino are unable to inspire the current squad? - most importantly,how can things be turned around without major surgery on the footballing side from Nani down to individual players , made worse should the decision be made to let Troy go? - will I be there next season? YES!
Agree with most of this except this blind faith in the Pozzos. They have a successful business model that does not require multi-million pound/euro investment but it is only enough to keep Udinese and Grenada in the lower reaches of their respective leagues and in the context of the English Championship it is a castle built on sand.

The contrast between this season and last season demonstrates this. We finished lower this weekend than our last season under Sean Dyche who has now successfully managed a team similar to the pre-Pozzo quality at Watfod, into the top flight. The reason GFZ and now Sannino appear not to be able to motivate players at critical moments may be personal failing but is also because the whole culture of the Pozzo business model militates against team spirit. There is no leadership on the pitch. Too many players know that their career depends on individual rather than team performances and showing off their skills. When it goes wrong heads go down and there is no fight.

No self respecting successful British manager is going to want to work under these arrangements. There are sadly no reasons to be optimistic about next seasoin. Faith in the Pozzos isn't enough. We need to know that the owners have learned the lessons of their first two seaons in Englsh footbsall and that they adapt their business model to meet the challenges rather than, as I fear, carrying on regardless in the hope it may come right.
[quote][p][bold]andyhooked[/bold] wrote: Bless the Pozzos but this season should be a lesson learnt as we have gone backwards rather than come anywhere near the dizzy heights of last season. Questions: - does the football model work with Nani deciding who is in and who is out for this season and next season, given that the bad imports outweigh the few good imports? - why does it appear that both Zola and now Sannino are unable to inspire the current squad? - most importantly,how can things be turned around without major surgery on the footballing side from Nani down to individual players , made worse should the decision be made to let Troy go? - will I be there next season? YES![/p][/quote]Agree with most of this except this blind faith in the Pozzos. They have a successful business model that does not require multi-million pound/euro investment but it is only enough to keep Udinese and Grenada in the lower reaches of their respective leagues and in the context of the English Championship it is a castle built on sand. The contrast between this season and last season demonstrates this. We finished lower this weekend than our last season under Sean Dyche who has now successfully managed a team similar to the pre-Pozzo quality at Watfod, into the top flight. The reason GFZ and now Sannino appear not to be able to motivate players at critical moments may be personal failing but is also because the whole culture of the Pozzo business model militates against team spirit. There is no leadership on the pitch. Too many players know that their career depends on individual rather than team performances and showing off their skills. When it goes wrong heads go down and there is no fight. No self respecting successful British manager is going to want to work under these arrangements. There are sadly no reasons to be optimistic about next seasoin. Faith in the Pozzos isn't enough. We need to know that the owners have learned the lessons of their first two seaons in Englsh footbsall and that they adapt their business model to meet the challenges rather than, as I fear, carrying on regardless in the hope it may come right. MJ1
  • Score: 1

10:44am Wed 7 May 14

endean2 says...

MJ1 wrote:
andyhooked wrote:
Bless the Pozzos but this season should be a lesson learnt as we have gone backwards rather than come anywhere near the dizzy heights of last season. Questions: - does the football model work with Nani deciding who is in and who is out for this season and next season, given that the bad imports outweigh the few good imports? - why does it appear that both Zola and now Sannino are unable to inspire the current squad? - most importantly,how can things be turned around without major surgery on the footballing side from Nani down to individual players , made worse should the decision be made to let Troy go? - will I be there next season? YES!
Agree with most of this except this blind faith in the Pozzos. They have a successful business model that does not require multi-million pound/euro investment but it is only enough to keep Udinese and Grenada in the lower reaches of their respective leagues and in the context of the English Championship it is a castle built on sand.

The contrast between this season and last season demonstrates this. We finished lower this weekend than our last season under Sean Dyche who has now successfully managed a team similar to the pre-Pozzo quality at Watfod, into the top flight. The reason GFZ and now Sannino appear not to be able to motivate players at critical moments may be personal failing but is also because the whole culture of the Pozzo business model militates against team spirit. There is no leadership on the pitch. Too many players know that their career depends on individual rather than team performances and showing off their skills. When it goes wrong heads go down and there is no fight.

No self respecting successful British manager is going to want to work under these arrangements. There are sadly no reasons to be optimistic about next seasoin. Faith in the Pozzos isn't enough. We need to know that the owners have learned the lessons of their first two seaons in Englsh footbsall and that they adapt their business model to meet the challenges rather than, as I fear, carrying on regardless in the hope it may come right.
somewhat harsh comments,but in truth probably accurate.

The litmus test now is what happens now, I know that's stating the blooming obvious but who goes and comes will define this club for a good number of years to come. Will the Pozzos be brave and accept their shortcomings or will it simply be more of the same................
....interesting times
[quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyhooked[/bold] wrote: Bless the Pozzos but this season should be a lesson learnt as we have gone backwards rather than come anywhere near the dizzy heights of last season. Questions: - does the football model work with Nani deciding who is in and who is out for this season and next season, given that the bad imports outweigh the few good imports? - why does it appear that both Zola and now Sannino are unable to inspire the current squad? - most importantly,how can things be turned around without major surgery on the footballing side from Nani down to individual players , made worse should the decision be made to let Troy go? - will I be there next season? YES![/p][/quote]Agree with most of this except this blind faith in the Pozzos. They have a successful business model that does not require multi-million pound/euro investment but it is only enough to keep Udinese and Grenada in the lower reaches of their respective leagues and in the context of the English Championship it is a castle built on sand. The contrast between this season and last season demonstrates this. We finished lower this weekend than our last season under Sean Dyche who has now successfully managed a team similar to the pre-Pozzo quality at Watfod, into the top flight. The reason GFZ and now Sannino appear not to be able to motivate players at critical moments may be personal failing but is also because the whole culture of the Pozzo business model militates against team spirit. There is no leadership on the pitch. Too many players know that their career depends on individual rather than team performances and showing off their skills. When it goes wrong heads go down and there is no fight. No self respecting successful British manager is going to want to work under these arrangements. There are sadly no reasons to be optimistic about next seasoin. Faith in the Pozzos isn't enough. We need to know that the owners have learned the lessons of their first two seaons in Englsh footbsall and that they adapt their business model to meet the challenges rather than, as I fear, carrying on regardless in the hope it may come right.[/p][/quote]somewhat harsh comments,but in truth probably accurate. The litmus test now is what happens now, I know that's stating the blooming obvious but who goes and comes will define this club for a good number of years to come. Will the Pozzos be brave and accept their shortcomings or will it simply be more of the same................ ....interesting times endean2
  • Score: 1

1:01pm Wed 7 May 14

bristol hornet says...

Good to hear that a decent replacement is being lined up to replace the unfortunate Beppe.

Nice bloke, like Zola before him, but not suitable for the hustle and bustle of the highly competitive Championship.
Good to hear that a decent replacement is being lined up to replace the unfortunate Beppe. Nice bloke, like Zola before him, but not suitable for the hustle and bustle of the highly competitive Championship. bristol hornet
  • Score: 2

2:38pm Wed 7 May 14

longcliffe says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Good to hear that a decent replacement is being lined up to replace the unfortunate Beppe. Nice bloke, like Zola before him, but not suitable for the hustle and bustle of the highly competitive Championship.
So who is Beppe's replacement?
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good to hear that a decent replacement is being lined up to replace the unfortunate Beppe. Nice bloke, like Zola before him, but not suitable for the hustle and bustle of the highly competitive Championship.[/p][/quote]So who is Beppe's replacement? longcliffe
  • Score: 0

7:32pm Wed 7 May 14

Hand of Destiny says...

D.unstable wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
Everyone who went all giddy when the Pozzos took over, promptly sacked our last proper manager after a decent season, should be feeling sheepish right now. Happy for these egotistical and divisive owners to close our academy, allow home-grown players to leave and make our club a laughing stock, now you are left with the club you deserve.
Bassini, is that you???

Seriously, overall I'm happy, I still have a club to support.
Cnut
[quote][p][bold]D.unstable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Everyone who went all giddy when the Pozzos took over, promptly sacked our last proper manager after a decent season, should be feeling sheepish right now. Happy for these egotistical and divisive owners to close our academy, allow home-grown players to leave and make our club a laughing stock, now you are left with the club you deserve.[/p][/quote]Bassini, is that you??? Seriously, overall I'm happy, I still have a club to support.[/p][/quote]Cnut Hand of Destiny
  • Score: -2

11:35pm Wed 7 May 14

Mark-H says...

To those who are now Dyche's biggest fans: yes he did a great job on limited resources, but who truly remembers the football of that year with any great fondness? And this obsession with English players...the club relied on academy players because there was no money.

Every club with money in the Championship buys players based on quality rather than nationality. Just appreciate the fact that we can call on players from a different source instead of attempting to offer Jermaine Beckford/Matt Mills/enter Champo journeyman here a bigger contract than Leeds/Bolton/insert club here.

I think this season's reality check has inspired an outbreak of rose-tinted spectacles since the heights of last year. Keep the faith and trust the club to get it right. Progress off the pitch is moving along at breakneck speed, on-pitch will follow. Four sides to the ground, the improved training facilities, new merchandising, catering, sponsorship and corporate deals...it all goes into the club's big pot of money and then we can get Jermaine Beckford/Matt Mills/insert Championship journeyman here if that's what the fans want.
To those who are now Dyche's biggest fans: yes he did a great job on limited resources, but who truly remembers the football of that year with any great fondness? And this obsession with English players...the club relied on academy players because there was no money. Every club with money in the Championship buys players based on quality rather than nationality. Just appreciate the fact that we can call on players from a different source instead of attempting to offer Jermaine Beckford/Matt Mills/enter Champo journeyman here a bigger contract than Leeds/Bolton/insert club here. I think this season's reality check has inspired an outbreak of rose-tinted spectacles since the heights of last year. Keep the faith and trust the club to get it right. Progress off the pitch is moving along at breakneck speed, on-pitch will follow. Four sides to the ground, the improved training facilities, new merchandising, catering, sponsorship and corporate deals...it all goes into the club's big pot of money and then we can get Jermaine Beckford/Matt Mills/insert Championship journeyman here if that's what the fans want. Mark-H
  • Score: -1

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