Charlton Athletic are edging closer to Championship survival under new boss Jose Riga following the takeover of the club

This Is Local London: Former Standard Liege boss Jose Riga replaced Chris Powell on March 11. Picture: Action Images Former Standard Liege boss Jose Riga replaced Chris Powell on March 11. Picture: Action Images

With Watford’s faint play-off hopes finally extinguished for the season, Beppe Sannino’s Hornets travel to South London for their game in hand with Charlton Athletic this evening.

The original fixture had been scheduled for March 9, but the Addicks’ FA Cup progress meant the fixture was re-arranged.

Much has changed since then, with former Watford defender Chris Powell dismissed from his role as manager just two days after Charlton were beaten 2-0 by Sheffield United in their FA Cup quarter-final tie.

Former Standard Liege boss Jose Riga has replaced the Charlton legend, who guided the club to promotion back to the second-tier two seasons ago.

Sat in 19th, two points and three places above the bottom three, the Addicks know a win against the Hornets will see them preserve their Championship status after a season of turmoil on and off the field.

The much-publicised takeover of the club by Belgian businessman Roland Duchâtelet has been the subject of heavy scrutiny from both supporters and non-supporters of the football club.

Much like the Pozzos and Watford, Duchâtelet owns more than one club and it it’s that which is the source of consternation.

But, like the Pozzos, the 67-year-old is not contravening any rules as his clubs compete in different countries.

As well as Charlton and Standard Liege, Duchâtelet owns German side Carl Zeiss Jena and Spanish side AD Alcorcon.

Duchâtelet’s takeover has once again raised the argument of whether individuals should be allowed to own more than one club or not.

The former Belgian Senator sold two of the club’s most important players - Dale Stephens and Yann Kermorgant - in the January transfer window, before announcing that Charlton players could be moved to Liege to help the club if required, hardly endearing himself to Addicks’ fans.

Whilst that hasn’t happened yet, players have more freely in the opposite direction, with four arrivals from Liege in the January transfer window.

Their impact has been mixed, with defender Loic Nego making one start and attacker Piotr Parzyszek making just out substitute appearance.

Former Leicester City winger Astrit Ajdarevic and striker Reza Ghoochannejhad have both featured regular and scored since moving to England.

Despite the addition of more exotic names, Charlton have lent heavily on some of their more experienced Championship campaigners, with skipper and former Watford loanee Johnnie Jackson just one example.

The 31-year-old midfielder has made over 150 appearances for the Addicks since signing from Notts County in 2010 and the Tottenham Hotspur trainee has proved to be a shrewd acquisition.

Capable of playing at left-back, left-midfield or in central midfield, Camden-born Jackson has been a model of consistency once more this term, making 42 appearances in all competitions.

Another former Hornet who has played a key role in recent weeks is Marvin Sordell. On loan from Bolton Wanderers, the striker has scored five in his last five to earn Riga’s men six crucial points against relegation rivals Yeovil Town and Sheffield Wednesday.

With eight goals in all competitions, the 23-year-old is Charlton’s top-scorer this term, with Kermorgant - now of Bournemouth - second-highest on five, highlighting one of Charlton’s biggest issues this season.

Charlton are without one-time Hornets’ target Rhoys Wiggins, meaning youngster Morgan Fox will continue at left-back.

Right-back Chris Solly returned in Saturday’s 3-1 defeat at home to Blackburn Rovers.

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8:51am Tue 29 Apr 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again.

Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple.

Discuss

HC
Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again. Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple. Discuss HC Hornet Cornet
  • Score: -13

9:22am Tue 29 Apr 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

6 players out. Charlton needing points to guarantee safety. It's going to need real character and commitment to get anything out of this game.
6 players out. Charlton needing points to guarantee safety. It's going to need real character and commitment to get anything out of this game. Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 6

9:23am Tue 29 Apr 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again.

Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple.

Discuss

HC
How can you predict where we'll finish next season when you've no idea of the squad we'll have ? Will depend on availability of Deeney, Tozser, fully fit Abdi ?? With a similar squad to the one we have today 6th-8th sounds about right.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again. Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple. Discuss HC[/p][/quote]How can you predict where we'll finish next season when you've no idea of the squad we'll have ? Will depend on availability of Deeney, Tozser, fully fit Abdi ?? With a similar squad to the one we have today 6th-8th sounds about right. Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 13

9:30am Tue 29 Apr 14

bristol hornet says...

Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ?

Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy.

Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure.

If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity.

Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad.

The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action".

Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more.

If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed.

Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services.

We will see.
Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ? Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy. Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure. If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity. Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad. The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action". Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more. If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed. Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services. We will see. bristol hornet
  • Score: -5

9:43am Tue 29 Apr 14

demerit says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again.

Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple.

Discuss

HC
That's a very involved discussion. Why did you make it so complicated?
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again. Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple. Discuss HC[/p][/quote]That's a very involved discussion. Why did you make it so complicated? demerit
  • Score: -1

9:58am Tue 29 Apr 14

rousman 2 says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ?

Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy.

Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure.

If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity.

Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad.

The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action".

Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more.

If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed.

Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services.

We will see.
Good post mate a thumbs up from me.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ? Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy. Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure. If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity. Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad. The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action". Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more. If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed. Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services. We will see.[/p][/quote]Good post mate a thumbs up from me. rousman 2
  • Score: -4

9:59am Tue 29 Apr 14

garston tony says...

The Charlton owner making it clear that Standard Liege have priority over all his other clubs does raise an interesting question about the Pozzo's.

I think they have in mind to give all of their teams the best possible squads (I would imagine the Belgian chap does too to be fair) and Udinese appear to do fairly well most years but if there came a crunch time and they were really struggling would players be taken from Watford and Granada to shore them up?

Just a thought
The Charlton owner making it clear that Standard Liege have priority over all his other clubs does raise an interesting question about the Pozzo's. I think they have in mind to give all of their teams the best possible squads (I would imagine the Belgian chap does too to be fair) and Udinese appear to do fairly well most years but if there came a crunch time and they were really struggling would players be taken from Watford and Granada to shore them up? Just a thought garston tony
  • Score: 2

10:04am Tue 29 Apr 14

llloydwithathirdl says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ?

Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy.

Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure.

If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity.

Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad.

The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action".

Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more.

If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed.

Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services.

We will see.
We already have a manager. And a good one at that.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ? Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy. Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure. If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity. Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad. The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action". Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more. If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed. Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services. We will see.[/p][/quote]We already have a manager. And a good one at that. llloydwithathirdl
  • Score: 5

10:13am Tue 29 Apr 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ?

Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy.

Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure.

If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity.

Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad.

The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action".

Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more.

If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed.

Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services.

We will see.
Norwich would be seen as a better option, all 3 relegated teams will be in the top 6 as this year, leaving 3 places up for grabs. Malky can't be guaranteed to land a prem job, so a relegated team with good promotion chances, plenty of cash and some personal history...I think Malky to Norwich is nailed on.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ? Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy. Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure. If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity. Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad. The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action". Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more. If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed. Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services. We will see.[/p][/quote]Norwich would be seen as a better option, all 3 relegated teams will be in the top 6 as this year, leaving 3 places up for grabs. Malky can't be guaranteed to land a prem job, so a relegated team with good promotion chances, plenty of cash and some personal history...I think Malky to Norwich is nailed on. Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 9

10:38am Tue 29 Apr 14

SAHornet says...

Malky coming back to Watford is, imo, most unlikely. Pozzo's won't pay proper Championship wages to an English manager plus, doubt that Malky would like the head-coach type set-up and all it entails. Sannino will stay or another unknown will be appointed. Let's see.
Malky coming back to Watford is, imo, most unlikely. Pozzo's won't pay proper Championship wages to an English manager plus, doubt that Malky would like the head-coach type set-up and all it entails. Sannino will stay or another unknown will be appointed. Let's see. SAHornet
  • Score: 15

10:39am Tue 29 Apr 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again.

Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple.

Discuss

HC
How can you predict where we'll finish next season when you've no idea of the squad we'll have ? Will depend on availability of Deeney, Tozser, fully fit Abdi ?? With a similar squad to the one we have today 6th-8th sounds about right.
It's a real stab in the dark to be honest, based on how we are now. Summer signings might change things but most of us got it wrong after last summer's signings so I am extra cautious about being over-optimistic now. I'm happy to be proved wrong (in a good way) however.

Ta ta

HC
[quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again. Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple. Discuss HC[/p][/quote]How can you predict where we'll finish next season when you've no idea of the squad we'll have ? Will depend on availability of Deeney, Tozser, fully fit Abdi ?? With a similar squad to the one we have today 6th-8th sounds about right.[/p][/quote]It's a real stab in the dark to be honest, based on how we are now. Summer signings might change things but most of us got it wrong after last summer's signings so I am extra cautious about being over-optimistic now. I'm happy to be proved wrong (in a good way) however. Ta ta HC Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 4

10:41am Tue 29 Apr 14

Hornet Cornet says...

SAHornet wrote:
Malky coming back to Watford is, imo, most unlikely. Pozzo's won't pay proper Championship wages to an English manager plus, doubt that Malky would like the head-coach type set-up and all it entails. Sannino will stay or another unknown will be appointed. Let's see.
Very true. Mind you Malky's not English so the Pozzo's might see him as a foreign coach...
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: Malky coming back to Watford is, imo, most unlikely. Pozzo's won't pay proper Championship wages to an English manager plus, doubt that Malky would like the head-coach type set-up and all it entails. Sannino will stay or another unknown will be appointed. Let's see.[/p][/quote]Very true. Mind you Malky's not English so the Pozzo's might see him as a foreign coach... Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 4

10:53am Tue 29 Apr 14

Hornankey says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ?

Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy.

Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure.

If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity.

Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad.

The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action".

Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more.

If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed.

Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services.

We will see.
Good analysis. Let's hope the Pozzo's are on the same page!
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ? Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy. Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure. If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity. Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad. The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action". Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more. If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed. Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services. We will see.[/p][/quote]Good analysis. Let's hope the Pozzo's are on the same page! Hornankey
  • Score: 1

11:02am Tue 29 Apr 14

rousman 2 says...

If the Pozzo's are serious about the Premier League ( I belive they are) 1 keep Deeney 2 Sannino must go 3 decent British coach to come in. Otherwise we will be a mid table team next season as well.
If the Pozzo's are serious about the Premier League ( I belive they are) 1 keep Deeney 2 Sannino must go 3 decent British coach to come in. Otherwise we will be a mid table team next season as well. rousman 2
  • Score: -4

11:52am Tue 29 Apr 14

Feff says...

Udinese and Granada are mid-table in their countries top division. We are mid-table in our "second" division. Till we get to the top division the Pozzos naturally will favour their other teams with regards to spending money on players. These are good days after the Bassini debacle. We will have a new East Stand. BUT we haven't got a coach of the class of Rodgers, Mackay or Dyche. We need one, and we must let that coach decide who his players should be, not Nani. Till then we will remain a mid-table (or even lower) Championship side.
Udinese and Granada are mid-table in their countries top division. We are mid-table in our "second" division. Till we get to the top division the Pozzos naturally will favour their other teams with regards to spending money on players. These are good days after the Bassini debacle. We will have a new East Stand. BUT we haven't got a coach of the class of Rodgers, Mackay or Dyche. We need one, and we must let that coach decide who his players should be, not Nani. Till then we will remain a mid-table (or even lower) Championship side. Feff
  • Score: -1

12:39pm Tue 29 Apr 14

croxley46 says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ?

Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy.

Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure.

If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity.

Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad.

The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action".

Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more.

If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed.

Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services.

We will see.
I think Malky will go to West Ham (another of his ex-clubs) if Big Sam gets the boot and Norwich go down .
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ? Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy. Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure. If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity. Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad. The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action". Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more. If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed. Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services. We will see.[/p][/quote]I think Malky will go to West Ham (another of his ex-clubs) if Big Sam gets the boot and Norwich go down . croxley46
  • Score: 9

1:38pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Harry's Bar says...

Hornankey wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ?

Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy.

Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure.

If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity.

Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad.

The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action".

Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more.

If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed.

Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services.

We will see.
Good analysis. Let's hope the Pozzo's are on the same page!
Completely disagree, the post was far too disrespectful to Saninno, without him we could be in deep schtuk now. Also, I don't believe the Pozzo's are on the same page and the only other Managers on their radar would be Guidolin and Di Matteo.
[quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ? Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy. Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure. If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity. Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad. The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action". Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more. If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed. Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services. We will see.[/p][/quote]Good analysis. Let's hope the Pozzo's are on the same page![/p][/quote]Completely disagree, the post was far too disrespectful to Saninno, without him we could be in deep schtuk now. Also, I don't believe the Pozzo's are on the same page and the only other Managers on their radar would be Guidolin and Di Matteo. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 8

3:51pm Tue 29 Apr 14

strummerjoe says...

Why would we want Malky back? Sure, he took Cardiff up but with a massive budget, and then took them straight into the relegation zone of the prem with an even more massive budget. Great bloke and all that, but the football? Grim.

At least the last 2 seasons even when we're not winning it's (generally) been entertaining. Give Sannino a pre-season to get the finess sorted out, and a say in recruitment, and give him til' Xmas - he's earned that at least.
Why would we want Malky back? Sure, he took Cardiff up but with a massive budget, and then took them straight into the relegation zone of the prem with an even more massive budget. Great bloke and all that, but the football? Grim. At least the last 2 seasons even when we're not winning it's (generally) been entertaining. Give Sannino a pre-season to get the finess sorted out, and a say in recruitment, and give him til' Xmas - he's earned that at least. strummerjoe
  • Score: 4

3:58pm Tue 29 Apr 14

jasonwatford says...

Bristol hornet - I read your comments and the more I read the more I understand you know nothing about the workings of football. You see what you want and no big picture at all. Maybe you should try Bristol City or Rovers they have british managers
Bristol hornet - I read your comments and the more I read the more I understand you know nothing about the workings of football. You see what you want and no big picture at all. Maybe you should try Bristol City or Rovers they have british managers jasonwatford
  • Score: -4

4:22pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Ramageland says...

strummerjoe wrote:
Why would we want Malky back? Sure, he took Cardiff up but with a massive budget, and then took them straight into the relegation zone of the prem with an even more massive budget. Great bloke and all that, but the football? Grim.

At least the last 2 seasons even when we're not winning it's (generally) been entertaining. Give Sannino a pre-season to get the finess sorted out, and a say in recruitment, and give him til' Xmas - he's earned that at least.
Totally agree - the football under both Dyche and Malky was often dull and I don't recall us getting promoted under either of them (yes, there was the circumstances, Bassini, length of tenure, etc but Beppe hasn't had a full season to prove himself). The last two seasons have been fantastic, if a bit frustrating at times. When you are paying to watch a team week in, week out, the very least you want to see is decent football. Before the Pozzo's arrived we had been watching dull football for the best part of a decade. We now have a decent chracter in charge and a team full of 'proper' footballers - I just plan to enjoy and see where we end up!!
[quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: Why would we want Malky back? Sure, he took Cardiff up but with a massive budget, and then took them straight into the relegation zone of the prem with an even more massive budget. Great bloke and all that, but the football? Grim. At least the last 2 seasons even when we're not winning it's (generally) been entertaining. Give Sannino a pre-season to get the finess sorted out, and a say in recruitment, and give him til' Xmas - he's earned that at least.[/p][/quote]Totally agree - the football under both Dyche and Malky was often dull and I don't recall us getting promoted under either of them (yes, there was the circumstances, Bassini, length of tenure, etc but Beppe hasn't had a full season to prove himself). The last two seasons have been fantastic, if a bit frustrating at times. When you are paying to watch a team week in, week out, the very least you want to see is decent football. Before the Pozzo's arrived we had been watching dull football for the best part of a decade. We now have a decent chracter in charge and a team full of 'proper' footballers - I just plan to enjoy and see where we end up!! Ramageland
  • Score: 5

6:50pm Tue 29 Apr 14

The Rover says...

Malky coming back to Watford is very unlikely, and even if he did it would only be until he got a better offer (like last time). Do we really want that?
Malky coming back to Watford is very unlikely, and even if he did it would only be until he got a better offer (like last time). Do we really want that? The Rover
  • Score: 1

6:52pm Tue 29 Apr 14

29April1975WasBottom says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ?

Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy.

Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure.

If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity.

Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad.

The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action".

Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more.

If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed.

Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services.

We will see.
Well IMO Sannino will definitely be gone - the Pozzos will not take up the 12 month option to extend his initial term beyond June - but I very seriously doubt Malky would be their next pick. Far more likely to be another Serie B manager but perhaps someone younger & more malleable who can be assisted by a British right hand man with Championship experience, which I think the Pozzos would accept the need for this time around.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Now it looks like the Canaries are doomed, the Hornets might be just as an attractive managers job for Malky to come back ? Duxbury, Nani & Pozzos must have recognised the need for a proper Championship manager like Dyche to make a promo push, Malky has been seen at the Vic several times so must be known to said hierarchy. Malky could muster old guard out of favour at Cardiff plus existing squad for a competitive forthcoming season. Fans would forgive him in view of Bassini bad ownership as good reason for his departure. If Sannino is charge next season we will be in same position as now mid table mediocrity. Deeney sale fee should be given to new proper championship mgr to fine tune squad. The players attitude against Derby would not happen with Malky, Dyche or Jackett, but Sannino is a soft touch, "Words, but no strong action". Cherries will be the Burnley of next year if Howe stays, Derby could be the Leicester if they do not go up. The relegated clubs will be playoffs there thereabouts no more. If Malky is appointed we would be playoff material as defence would be improved by strong mentoring from Malky and a proper captain would be appointed. Reality says Norwich will outbid us for Malky's services. We will see.[/p][/quote]Well IMO Sannino will definitely be gone - the Pozzos will not take up the 12 month option to extend his initial term beyond June - but I very seriously doubt Malky would be their next pick. Far more likely to be another Serie B manager but perhaps someone younger & more malleable who can be assisted by a British right hand man with Championship experience, which I think the Pozzos would accept the need for this time around. 29April1975WasBottom
  • Score: 2

7:03pm Tue 29 Apr 14

29April1975WasBottom says...

and btw whatever happens at the Valley nothing could be worse than 39 years ago tonight when I saw Watford lose 3-2 to Walsall at the Vic to drop through the trap door to Division 4. Anyone else old enough to be there that night?
and btw whatever happens at the Valley nothing could be worse than 39 years ago tonight when I saw Watford lose 3-2 to Walsall at the Vic to drop through the trap door to Division 4. Anyone else old enough to be there that night? 29April1975WasBottom
  • Score: 4

7:46pm Tue 29 Apr 14

MainStandShambles says...

29April1975WasBottom wrote:
and btw whatever happens at the Valley nothing could be worse than 39 years ago tonight when I saw Watford lose 3-2 to Walsall at the Vic to drop through the trap door to Division 4. Anyone else old enough to be there that night?
I'm afraid so 29April. Without checking the records was this the game that Billy Jennings missed a penalty at the Vicarage Road end which if he had scored would have given him 30 goals for the season, or something like that.

What a depressing night that was, some fans don't appreciate how lucky we are to be playing consistently at the level we're at these days.
[quote][p][bold]29April1975WasBottom[/bold] wrote: and btw whatever happens at the Valley nothing could be worse than 39 years ago tonight when I saw Watford lose 3-2 to Walsall at the Vic to drop through the trap door to Division 4. Anyone else old enough to be there that night?[/p][/quote]I'm afraid so 29April. Without checking the records was this the game that Billy Jennings missed a penalty at the Vicarage Road end which if he had scored would have given him 30 goals for the season, or something like that. What a depressing night that was, some fans don't appreciate how lucky we are to be playing consistently at the level we're at these days. MainStandShambles
  • Score: 3

9:29pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Hornet Cornet says...

MainStandShambles wrote:
29April1975WasBottom wrote:
and btw whatever happens at the Valley nothing could be worse than 39 years ago tonight when I saw Watford lose 3-2 to Walsall at the Vic to drop through the trap door to Division 4. Anyone else old enough to be there that night?
I'm afraid so 29April. Without checking the records was this the game that Billy Jennings missed a penalty at the Vicarage Road end which if he had scored would have given him 30 goals for the season, or something like that.

What a depressing night that was, some fans don't appreciate how lucky we are to be playing consistently at the level we're at these days.
You want to see depressing nights, look at how we're doing tonight...
[quote][p][bold]MainStandShambles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]29April1975WasBottom[/bold] wrote: and btw whatever happens at the Valley nothing could be worse than 39 years ago tonight when I saw Watford lose 3-2 to Walsall at the Vic to drop through the trap door to Division 4. Anyone else old enough to be there that night?[/p][/quote]I'm afraid so 29April. Without checking the records was this the game that Billy Jennings missed a penalty at the Vicarage Road end which if he had scored would have given him 30 goals for the season, or something like that. What a depressing night that was, some fans don't appreciate how lucky we are to be playing consistently at the level we're at these days.[/p][/quote]You want to see depressing nights, look at how we're doing tonight... Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 0

9:47pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again.

Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple.

Discuss

HC
Make that 18th, after tonight
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Given that this season is effectively dead now, I am sure you're all dying to hear my prediction for next season. This is the highlight of many of your summers and I am treating you to my all encompassing prediction once again. Last year I predicted we would end up between 4-6th this season, so I am doomed on that count. Even though this season hasn't yet ended, my juices are telling me we will endure another tough season and end up 8th next season. Reasons...? We just ain't good enough. Simple. Discuss HC[/p][/quote]Make that 18th, after tonight Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 2

8:56am Wed 30 Apr 14

bristol hornet says...

jasonwatford wrote:
Bristol hornet - I read your comments and the more I read the more I understand you know nothing about the workings of football. You see what you want and no big picture at all. Maybe you should try Bristol City or Rovers they have british managers
You bell end, I am a Watford fan, not a Bristolian!!

NOw you tos**r, look at the thread on the match report of our terrible performAce and 3-1 away defeat at CharLTON, and see how many agree with me, you loser!!
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: Bristol hornet - I read your comments and the more I read the more I understand you know nothing about the workings of football. You see what you want and no big picture at all. Maybe you should try Bristol City or Rovers they have british managers[/p][/quote]You bell end, I am a Watford fan, not a Bristolian!! NOw you tos**r, look at the thread on the match report of our terrible performAce and 3-1 away defeat at CharLTON, and see how many agree with me, you loser!! bristol hornet
  • Score: 3

11:20am Wed 30 Apr 14

Hornet Cornet says...

bristol hornet wrote:
jasonwatford wrote:
Bristol hornet - I read your comments and the more I read the more I understand you know nothing about the workings of football. You see what you want and no big picture at all. Maybe you should try Bristol City or Rovers they have british managers
You bell end, I am a Watford fan, not a Bristolian!!

NOw you tos**r, look at the thread on the match report of our terrible performAce and 3-1 away defeat at CharLTON, and see how many agree with me, you loser!!
jasonwatford, is it your time of the month AGAIN? You need to go see a doctor about it as you're far to menstrual.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: Bristol hornet - I read your comments and the more I read the more I understand you know nothing about the workings of football. You see what you want and no big picture at all. Maybe you should try Bristol City or Rovers they have british managers[/p][/quote]You bell end, I am a Watford fan, not a Bristolian!! NOw you tos**r, look at the thread on the match report of our terrible performAce and 3-1 away defeat at CharLTON, and see how many agree with me, you loser!![/p][/quote]jasonwatford, is it your time of the month AGAIN? You need to go see a doctor about it as you're far to menstrual. Hornet Cornet
  • Score: -1

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