Luke O'Nien to start for Sheffield United again as he awaits decision on Watford future

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Watford midfielder Luke O'Nien is set to play for Sheffield United Under-21s for the second time today as he awaits a decision from the Hornets on whether his contract will be extended.

O'Nien is a first-year professional with the Golden Boys and his contract expires in the summer.

Head coach Beppe Sannino is a fan of the 19-year-old. In January the Italian said O'Nien was "strongly part of the club on and off the pitch" and added he "lives for Watford".

Sannino then achieved his "dream" of giving O'Nien his professional debut as an 88th-minute substitute against Barnsley on March 15.

But we understand Watford have yet to make a final decision on whether to give O'Nien a second professional contract.

The midfielder, who joined Watford at Under-9 level, played 90 minutes for Sheffield United Under-21s last Monday during their 4-0 win over Sheffield Wednesday.

And the player from Hemel Hempstead will again start for the Blades' Under-21s this afternoon, kick-off 1pm, against Coventry City at Nuneaton Town's ground.

O'Nien joined Ryman Premier side Wealdstone on loan on Thursday and is expected to return south for their game at home to Billericay Town tonight. He was an unused substitute for their 2-2 draw with Dulwich Hamlet on Saturday.

Watford refused to comment on O'Nien's future this morning but we understand the Hornets did give the player permission to play in United's Under-21 matches.

Read Sannino's comments on O'Nien from January here.

We understand Watford have made their decision about which scholars will be given professional contracts, read more here.

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1:08pm Mon 31 Mar 14

not a regular says...

Unless he is demanding a stupid wage then yes, do it, clearly Sannino rates him and he's the one that sees him train day in day out.

Can't help but feel it's Nani that wants him out like he did Battocchio.
Unless he is demanding a stupid wage then yes, do it, clearly Sannino rates him and he's the one that sees him train day in day out. Can't help but feel it's Nani that wants him out like he did Battocchio. not a regular
  • Score: 12

1:23pm Mon 31 Mar 14

babyhornet says...

If the owners want to prove they are all for youth players then this is a great chance to prove it. You couldnt ask for a better player, he always gives 100% in training, he is keen to learn, he has bags of talent too. Give him a deal and get him on loan at a league club and watch him thrive! He isnt hungry for money, simply wants to play football.
If the owners want to prove they are all for youth players then this is a great chance to prove it. You couldnt ask for a better player, he always gives 100% in training, he is keen to learn, he has bags of talent too. Give him a deal and get him on loan at a league club and watch him thrive! He isnt hungry for money, simply wants to play football. babyhornet
  • Score: 15

1:28pm Mon 31 Mar 14

D.unstable says...

Probably as he is in the last 6 months of his contract he can pretty much do what he wants as he needs to protect his future career, however from what I have seen and read of this guy we need to tie him down before his head gets turned.
Probably as he is in the last 6 months of his contract he can pretty much do what he wants as he needs to protect his future career, however from what I have seen and read of this guy we need to tie him down before his head gets turned. D.unstable
  • Score: 16

1:30pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

Bizzare situation. He's still a kid, the manager loves him, great attitude and yet we might be prepared to let him go ??? If he want's 1st team football, sign him up, give him the security of a new contract and then loan him out to a div 1 or div 2 team next year ? Why on earth is he playing for Sheff Utd's under 21s ??
Bizzare situation. He's still a kid, the manager loves him, great attitude and yet we might be prepared to let him go ??? If he want's 1st team football, sign him up, give him the security of a new contract and then loan him out to a div 1 or div 2 team next year ? Why on earth is he playing for Sheff Utd's under 21s ?? Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 15

1:49pm Mon 31 Mar 14

jasonwatford says...

If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ? jasonwatford
  • Score: -17

1:58pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

jasonwatford wrote:
If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
Stop thinking about the prem !!! We may never get there ! We can deal with that problem if and when we are lucky enough to have it. There's no point in having any youth system all if we are saying they need to be ready to play in the prem at the age of 19 or we bin them !!
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?[/p][/quote]Stop thinking about the prem !!! We may never get there ! We can deal with that problem if and when we are lucky enough to have it. There's no point in having any youth system all if we are saying they need to be ready to play in the prem at the age of 19 or we bin them !! Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 25

2:03pm Mon 31 Mar 14

holtonian says...

Clough will snap this kid up in a hurry. He is a great prospect, must be some kind of method in this madness...I hope there is anyway ??
Clough will snap this kid up in a hurry. He is a great prospect, must be some kind of method in this madness...I hope there is anyway ?? holtonian
  • Score: 2

2:05pm Mon 31 Mar 14

JohnnyBarnes says...

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
Bizzare situation. He's still a kid, the manager loves him, great attitude and yet we might be prepared to let him go ??? If he want's 1st team football, sign him up, give him the security of a new contract and then loan him out to a div 1 or div 2 team next year ? Why on earth is he playing for Sheff Utd's under 21s ??
The club refusing to comment is standard practice now. It is not the same thing as "we might be prepared to let him go."

He's playing for Sheff Utd U21s to get game time.
[quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: Bizzare situation. He's still a kid, the manager loves him, great attitude and yet we might be prepared to let him go ??? If he want's 1st team football, sign him up, give him the security of a new contract and then loan him out to a div 1 or div 2 team next year ? Why on earth is he playing for Sheff Utd's under 21s ??[/p][/quote]The club refusing to comment is standard practice now. It is not the same thing as "we might be prepared to let him go." He's playing for Sheff Utd U21s to get game time. JohnnyBarnes
  • Score: 5

2:37pm Mon 31 Mar 14

D.unstable says...

jasonwatford wrote:
If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
Manchester City and Chelsea do not need to bring through home grown players, because they buy whoever they want, Watford on the other hand, despite getting rid of Bassini and falling on our feet are not yet in the same position and have an ultimate aim and directive from the Pozzo's of becoming self sufficient as a club. To do this we will need to get promoted but also continue to bring through or nurture the occasional diamond, an example being the signing of Uche earlier in the season, a prospect with a high possibility of becoming the real deal.

If ultimately Luke is deemed as not having what is required to make it on the big stage in the next 2-3 years then I agree with you, but this is not what I am hearing and he is being touted as one of the hottest prospects to come through since Ashley Young.

I think this will be a big sign on our future aspirations if we let him walk to for a small amount of compensation, although cannot see it.
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?[/p][/quote]Manchester City and Chelsea do not need to bring through home grown players, because they buy whoever they want, Watford on the other hand, despite getting rid of Bassini and falling on our feet are not yet in the same position and have an ultimate aim and directive from the Pozzo's of becoming self sufficient as a club. To do this we will need to get promoted but also continue to bring through or nurture the occasional diamond, an example being the signing of Uche earlier in the season, a prospect with a high possibility of becoming the real deal. If ultimately Luke is deemed as not having what is required to make it on the big stage in the next 2-3 years then I agree with you, but this is not what I am hearing and he is being touted as one of the hottest prospects to come through since Ashley Young. I think this will be a big sign on our future aspirations if we let him walk to for a small amount of compensation, although cannot see it. D.unstable
  • Score: 12

3:09pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Voice of reason 7 says...

jasonwatford wrote:
If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
Well, Southampton, Swansea and Everton have all done alright in the last few years playing products from the youth team! Very few players are ready to play first team football at 19, the point is he has potential. From what you are saying why don't we just scrap the whole youth set up and reley on players being released by other clubs becuase they wen'et good enough for them?! Watford should be a club that keeps hold of it's young players, and brings them into the team gradually and hope they will improve, if they don't, and not all of them will, then at least we gave it a go and are doing things they way GT beleived they should be done.
Players take time to become premiership stnadard, look at the boy Flannagan at Liverpool, he looked top class yesterday, yet a couple of years ago he seemed to struggle most times he played. I would play O'Nien over Merkel (Who is on loan isn't he? Either way I woulld rather see a young lad that we have produced running aroung giving 100% than this lightweight coasting through games and getting caught in possesion!) Tozer is also on loan, no gurantee he will be here next year. Abdi might have serious injury issues, and now all of a sudden, yes there is room in the squad for a promising 19 year old who works hard and loves the club.
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?[/p][/quote]Well, Southampton, Swansea and Everton have all done alright in the last few years playing products from the youth team! Very few players are ready to play first team football at 19, the point is he has potential. From what you are saying why don't we just scrap the whole youth set up and reley on players being released by other clubs becuase they wen'et good enough for them?! Watford should be a club that keeps hold of it's young players, and brings them into the team gradually and hope they will improve, if they don't, and not all of them will, then at least we gave it a go and are doing things they way GT beleived they should be done. Players take time to become premiership stnadard, look at the boy Flannagan at Liverpool, he looked top class yesterday, yet a couple of years ago he seemed to struggle most times he played. I would play O'Nien over Merkel (Who is on loan isn't he? Either way I woulld rather see a young lad that we have produced running aroung giving 100% than this lightweight coasting through games and getting caught in possesion!) Tozer is also on loan, no gurantee he will be here next year. Abdi might have serious injury issues, and now all of a sudden, yes there is room in the squad for a promising 19 year old who works hard and loves the club. Voice of reason 7
  • Score: 8

3:16pm Mon 31 Mar 14

mooneysmagic says...

Probably his Agent influencing the lad as to where they can BOTH make the most money. Not Vydra's agent is it?oba
Probably his Agent influencing the lad as to where they can BOTH make the most money. Not Vydra's agent is it?oba mooneysmagic
  • Score: -1

3:17pm Mon 31 Mar 14

jasonwatford says...

D.unstable wrote:
jasonwatford wrote:
If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
Manchester City and Chelsea do not need to bring through home grown players, because they buy whoever they want, Watford on the other hand, despite getting rid of Bassini and falling on our feet are not yet in the same position and have an ultimate aim and directive from the Pozzo's of becoming self sufficient as a club. To do this we will need to get promoted but also continue to bring through or nurture the occasional diamond, an example being the signing of Uche earlier in the season, a prospect with a high possibility of becoming the real deal.

If ultimately Luke is deemed as not having what is required to make it on the big stage in the next 2-3 years then I agree with you, but this is not what I am hearing and he is being touted as one of the hottest prospects to come through since Ashley Young.

I think this will be a big sign on our future aspirations if we let him walk to for a small amount of compensation, although cannot see it.
Then your hearing wrong I'm afraid , Not even in the same league as Ashley Young , He will go for free as it will be the clubs way of helping him find a career. If he was a hot as Ashley he would be playing by now and the club would not be looking to a seasoned pro like Albert Reira to come in. Also if he was that good we wouldn't be throwing away millions of pounds.
[quote][p][bold]D.unstable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?[/p][/quote]Manchester City and Chelsea do not need to bring through home grown players, because they buy whoever they want, Watford on the other hand, despite getting rid of Bassini and falling on our feet are not yet in the same position and have an ultimate aim and directive from the Pozzo's of becoming self sufficient as a club. To do this we will need to get promoted but also continue to bring through or nurture the occasional diamond, an example being the signing of Uche earlier in the season, a prospect with a high possibility of becoming the real deal. If ultimately Luke is deemed as not having what is required to make it on the big stage in the next 2-3 years then I agree with you, but this is not what I am hearing and he is being touted as one of the hottest prospects to come through since Ashley Young. I think this will be a big sign on our future aspirations if we let him walk to for a small amount of compensation, although cannot see it.[/p][/quote]Then your hearing wrong I'm afraid , Not even in the same league as Ashley Young , He will go for free as it will be the clubs way of helping him find a career. If he was a hot as Ashley he would be playing by now and the club would not be looking to a seasoned pro like Albert Reira to come in. Also if he was that good we wouldn't be throwing away millions of pounds. jasonwatford
  • Score: -17

4:15pm Mon 31 Mar 14

andyhooked says...

Playing for Sheff. United under 21s does not make much sense to me. I suspect though that joining Wealdstone late in the week may explain why he was a non-playing sub for Wealdstone? If he is returning to Wealdstone they must play him. Needs game time is a fair comment but up in Sheffield? Too early for me for conspiracy theories or speculation that either Nani or an agent has some cunning plan. If Beppe rates him enough to bring him on as a late sub then, hopefully, that is more than just a token thank you for how hard that Luke is committed to being a professional footballer with WFC.
Playing for Sheff. United under 21s does not make much sense to me. I suspect though that joining Wealdstone late in the week may explain why he was a non-playing sub for Wealdstone? If he is returning to Wealdstone they must play him. Needs game time is a fair comment but up in Sheffield? Too early for me for conspiracy theories or speculation that either Nani or an agent has some cunning plan. If Beppe rates him enough to bring him on as a late sub then, hopefully, that is more than just a token thank you for how hard that Luke is committed to being a professional footballer with WFC. andyhooked
  • Score: 1

4:18pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Imnotadonkey says...

jasonwatford wrote:
If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
Spot on... If he simply isn't good enough for first team let him go.. No room for passengers on the promotion express chooo choooo!
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?[/p][/quote]Spot on... If he simply isn't good enough for first team let him go.. No room for passengers on the promotion express chooo choooo! Imnotadonkey
  • Score: -6

4:18pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Imnotadonkey says...

jasonwatford wrote:
If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
Spot on... If he simply isn't good enough for first team let him go.. No room for passengers on the promotion express chooo choooo!
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?[/p][/quote]Spot on... If he simply isn't good enough for first team let him go.. No room for passengers on the promotion express chooo choooo! Imnotadonkey
  • Score: -10

4:27pm Mon 31 Mar 14

JohnnyBarnes says...

Imnotadonkey wrote:
jasonwatford wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
Spot on... If he simply isn't good enough for first team let him go.. No room for passengers on the promotion express chooo choooo!
and how many players develop later on in their careers?!
Not every good or great Premier League player was a good or great player at 18 years of age.
[quote][p][bold]Imnotadonkey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?[/p][/quote]Spot on... If he simply isn't good enough for first team let him go.. No room for passengers on the promotion express chooo choooo![/p][/quote]and how many players develop later on in their careers?! Not every good or great Premier League player was a good or great player at 18 years of age. JohnnyBarnes
  • Score: 7

5:15pm Mon 31 Mar 14

bushey tales says...

Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'
Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.' bushey tales
  • Score: 4

5:46pm Mon 31 Mar 14

D.unstable says...

jasonwatford wrote:
D.unstable wrote:
jasonwatford wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
Manchester City and Chelsea do not need to bring through home grown players, because they buy whoever they want, Watford on the other hand, despite getting rid of Bassini and falling on our feet are not yet in the same position and have an ultimate aim and directive from the Pozzo's of becoming self sufficient as a club. To do this we will need to get promoted but also continue to bring through or nurture the occasional diamond, an example being the signing of Uche earlier in the season, a prospect with a high possibility of becoming the real deal. If ultimately Luke is deemed as not having what is required to make it on the big stage in the next 2-3 years then I agree with you, but this is not what I am hearing and he is being touted as one of the hottest prospects to come through since Ashley Young. I think this will be a big sign on our future aspirations if we let him walk to for a small amount of compensation, although cannot see it.
Then your hearing wrong I'm afraid , Not even in the same league as Ashley Young , He will go for free as it will be the clubs way of helping him find a career. If he was a hot as Ashley he would be playing by now and the club would not be looking to a seasoned pro like Albert Reira to come in. Also if he was that good we wouldn't be throwing away millions of pounds.
Well ultimately it is those on the inside that have to make those decisions as they did with Assombolonga, either way I know that my club is in better hands now than it was 20 months back and that if players are let go it is not purely for one persons ultimate gain.

I am sure they dont want him or any others they let go prove them wrong.
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]D.unstable[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?[/p][/quote]Manchester City and Chelsea do not need to bring through home grown players, because they buy whoever they want, Watford on the other hand, despite getting rid of Bassini and falling on our feet are not yet in the same position and have an ultimate aim and directive from the Pozzo's of becoming self sufficient as a club. To do this we will need to get promoted but also continue to bring through or nurture the occasional diamond, an example being the signing of Uche earlier in the season, a prospect with a high possibility of becoming the real deal. If ultimately Luke is deemed as not having what is required to make it on the big stage in the next 2-3 years then I agree with you, but this is not what I am hearing and he is being touted as one of the hottest prospects to come through since Ashley Young. I think this will be a big sign on our future aspirations if we let him walk to for a small amount of compensation, although cannot see it.[/p][/quote]Then your hearing wrong I'm afraid , Not even in the same league as Ashley Young , He will go for free as it will be the clubs way of helping him find a career. If he was a hot as Ashley he would be playing by now and the club would not be looking to a seasoned pro like Albert Reira to come in. Also if he was that good we wouldn't be throwing away millions of pounds.[/p][/quote]Well ultimately it is those on the inside that have to make those decisions as they did with Assombolonga, either way I know that my club is in better hands now than it was 20 months back and that if players are let go it is not purely for one persons ultimate gain. I am sure they dont want him or any others they let go prove them wrong. D.unstable
  • Score: 7

5:51pm Mon 31 Mar 14

D.unstable says...

Demba Ba anyone?
Demba Ba anyone? D.unstable
  • Score: 3

5:52pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Goldenboy1960 says...

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
Bizzare situation. He's still a kid, the manager loves him, great attitude and yet we might be prepared to let him go ??? If he want's 1st team football, sign him up, give him the security of a new contract and then loan him out to a div 1 or div 2 team next year ? Why on earth is he playing for Sheff Utd's under 21s ??
probably the connection with Cox and Stephenson at Sheff Utd.
[quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: Bizzare situation. He's still a kid, the manager loves him, great attitude and yet we might be prepared to let him go ??? If he want's 1st team football, sign him up, give him the security of a new contract and then loan him out to a div 1 or div 2 team next year ? Why on earth is he playing for Sheff Utd's under 21s ??[/p][/quote]probably the connection with Cox and Stephenson at Sheff Utd. Goldenboy1960
  • Score: 2

6:09pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ramage1996 says...

I have only seen him play a few times for the youth teams and reserves, he looked okay.

To be honest though, a month into next season he will be 20 and that is quite old for a player that hardly ever makes our bench.

George Byers is a much better prospect in his position and is a few years younger, Sean Murray is a year older than O'Nien and has played 64 times for us rather than O'Nien's 2 minutes.
I have only seen him play a few times for the youth teams and reserves, he looked okay. To be honest though, a month into next season he will be 20 and that is quite old for a player that hardly ever makes our bench. George Byers is a much better prospect in his position and is a few years younger, Sean Murray is a year older than O'Nien and has played 64 times for us rather than O'Nien's 2 minutes. ramage1996
  • Score: 5

6:16pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ramage1996 says...

The player that is stand out is Rosenthal imho, 1st year scholar but needs to be offered a contract before e is poached.
The player that is stand out is Rosenthal imho, 1st year scholar but needs to be offered a contract before e is poached. ramage1996
  • Score: 8

6:29pm Mon 31 Mar 14

mickallen57 says...

On a different note has any one else heard the rumour that Beppe will leave the Hornets at the end of the season the Pozzos' giving him a job in Italy . Malky is going to come back and manage the Horns with Vydra also signing as a permanent player . The Gossip is Matty is buying a house in Watford .

The last time this source spilled the beans he was right all be it on a smaller scale . He said Ikpeasu would not be at Watford for long and Watford would sign Woods . Both well before any mention in the media
On a different note has any one else heard the rumour that Beppe will leave the Hornets at the end of the season the Pozzos' giving him a job in Italy . Malky is going to come back and manage the Horns with Vydra also signing as a permanent player . The Gossip is Matty is buying a house in Watford . The last time this source spilled the beans he was right all be it on a smaller scale . He said Ikpeasu would not be at Watford for long and Watford would sign Woods . Both well before any mention in the media mickallen57
  • Score: 3

7:15pm Mon 31 Mar 14

lutondown says...

jasonwatford wrote:
If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?
Totally agree
This dewy eyed mythical one eyed romanticism and hand wringing about our so called elite academy is nauseas.
The lower leagues and conference are littered with our yield.
Last time I saw O'nien play he looked out of his depth.. He may however make a certain amateur photographers legends team along with a load of other failures.
Pah! Get the thumbs down going tool shed
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: If we give him a 1 year deal are we not just prolonging the decision that will have to be made in the end ? Do we as a club want to get into the Prem asap as if we do we need players like Albert Riera not youngsters like Luke. Luke is nearly the last line of the previous owners harefield boys , Is he ready to play in the Prem if we get there net year ? Is he ready to play in our first team now on a regular basis ahead of Mcgugan , Merkel , Abdi , Toszer , Battchhio , Murray ?? Maybe we have to let him go so he can find a level to start playing at. In the Prem how many homegrown academy lads break into the first team at 19 or before ?[/p][/quote]Totally agree This dewy eyed mythical one eyed romanticism and hand wringing about our so called elite academy is nauseas. The lower leagues and conference are littered with our yield. Last time I saw O'nien play he looked out of his depth.. He may however make a certain amateur photographers legends team along with a load of other failures. Pah! Get the thumbs down going tool shed lutondown
  • Score: -13

7:16pm Mon 31 Mar 14

lutondown says...

bushey tales wrote:
Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'
Two words
So what
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'[/p][/quote]Two words So what lutondown
  • Score: -6

7:36pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ramage1996 says...

lutondown wrote:
bushey tales wrote:
Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'
Two words
So what
On that basis are we never to release any players that the club do not deem good enough?

I have seen O'Nien for our youth and reserves and he is a decent player but not stand out, from what Sannino has said he has a good attitude so that will hold him in good stead for his future career.

What is the point of a player who will be 20 at the start of next year being nowhere near the first tam, he isnt even near our bench.
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'[/p][/quote]Two words So what[/p][/quote]On that basis are we never to release any players that the club do not deem good enough? I have seen O'Nien for our youth and reserves and he is a decent player but not stand out, from what Sannino has said he has a good attitude so that will hold him in good stead for his future career. What is the point of a player who will be 20 at the start of next year being nowhere near the first tam, he isnt even near our bench. ramage1996
  • Score: 1

7:38pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ramage1996 says...

Sorry lutondown, that last comment was directed towards bushey tales
Sorry lutondown, that last comment was directed towards bushey tales ramage1996
  • Score: -1

7:48pm Mon 31 Mar 14

lutondown says...

D.unstable wrote:
Demba Ba anyone?
Aidy Boothroyd. Mmmm
A different time Tonio
We will all receive the new stand that previous owners welched on with open arms, we now have to accept we are a different club for good and for bad.
Yes we will let good players slip through the net as hindsight is a great thing.
It's a cruel game, but then so is life.
I for one hate that stupid he's one of our own chant...are they not all that? I find it insulting to all the other players in the yellow shirt..including loanees from QPR
[quote][p][bold]D.unstable[/bold] wrote: Demba Ba anyone?[/p][/quote]Aidy Boothroyd. Mmmm A different time Tonio We will all receive the new stand that previous owners welched on with open arms, we now have to accept we are a different club for good and for bad. Yes we will let good players slip through the net as hindsight is a great thing. It's a cruel game, but then so is life. I for one hate that stupid he's one of our own chant...are they not all that? I find it insulting to all the other players in the yellow shirt..including loanees from QPR lutondown
  • Score: 3

7:49pm Mon 31 Mar 14

lutondown says...

ramage1996 wrote:
Sorry lutondown, that last comment was directed towards bushey tales
No worries.
I'm awaiting the old relics smarmy reply
[quote][p][bold]ramage1996[/bold] wrote: Sorry lutondown, that last comment was directed towards bushey tales[/p][/quote]No worries. I'm awaiting the old relics smarmy reply lutondown
  • Score: -1

8:14pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ramage1996 says...

bushey tales wrote:
Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'
Kevin Phillips was a left back when released by Southampton, Baldock FC turned him into a striker and we signed him.
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'[/p][/quote]Kevin Phillips was a left back when released by Southampton, Baldock FC turned him into a striker and we signed him. ramage1996
  • Score: 1

8:19pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Imnotadonkey says...

lutondown wrote:
D.unstable wrote:
Demba Ba anyone?
Aidy Boothroyd. Mmmm
A different time Tonio
We will all receive the new stand that previous owners welched on with open arms, we now have to accept we are a different club for good and for bad.
Yes we will let good players slip through the net as hindsight is a great thing.
It's a cruel game, but then so is life.
I for one hate that stupid he's one of our own chant...are they not all that? I find it insulting to all the other players in the yellow shirt..including loanees from QPR
Again Mr Lutondown you are spot on, it amazes me that all our home grown academy players are deemed World beaters, well they don't even make the bench ... We have some absolute quality in the ranks, the Pozzos are building our future, they are bringing in quality We have possibly one of the hottest prospects in the World in our academy at the moment in Panos, Our goalkeeper Arie will be the next permanent goalkeeper it won't be Bond, anyone in the know will realise that the funding / academy status was cut back as there is no real need fir it, the Pozzos bring in who they want ... We are in very safe hands for at least the next 18 years... Thank God.
Any player wearing the shirt should be classed as one of our own... Those that boo the players, hang your heads in shame ....
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]D.unstable[/bold] wrote: Demba Ba anyone?[/p][/quote]Aidy Boothroyd. Mmmm A different time Tonio We will all receive the new stand that previous owners welched on with open arms, we now have to accept we are a different club for good and for bad. Yes we will let good players slip through the net as hindsight is a great thing. It's a cruel game, but then so is life. I for one hate that stupid he's one of our own chant...are they not all that? I find it insulting to all the other players in the yellow shirt..including loanees from QPR[/p][/quote]Again Mr Lutondown you are spot on, it amazes me that all our home grown academy players are deemed World beaters, well they don't even make the bench ... We have some absolute quality in the ranks, the Pozzos are building our future, they are bringing in quality We have possibly one of the hottest prospects in the World in our academy at the moment in Panos, Our goalkeeper Arie will be the next permanent goalkeeper it won't be Bond, anyone in the know will realise that the funding / academy status was cut back as there is no real need fir it, the Pozzos bring in who they want ... We are in very safe hands for at least the next 18 years... Thank God. Any player wearing the shirt should be classed as one of our own... Those that boo the players, hang your heads in shame .... Imnotadonkey
  • Score: -1

8:21pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Imnotadonkey says...

ramage1996 wrote:
bushey tales wrote:
Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'
Kevin Phillips was a left back when released by Southampton, Baldock FC turned him into a striker and we signed him.
So no credit to Watford... All to Baldock FC for finding his best position.... We signed him, Sunderland made him the player he was
[quote][p][bold]ramage1996[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'[/p][/quote]Kevin Phillips was a left back when released by Southampton, Baldock FC turned him into a striker and we signed him.[/p][/quote]So no credit to Watford... All to Baldock FC for finding his best position.... We signed him, Sunderland made him the player he was Imnotadonkey
  • Score: 1

8:24pm Mon 31 Mar 14

84AGAIN says...

Absolute no brainer, just sign him! Cannot believe that in the course of a month he has gone from fantastic prospect with great ability and attitude with a certain Watford future to surplus to requirements. Is this supposed to be a demonstration of how Watford treat their best hardworking academy players?
Give him the contract, I'll contribute a tenner!
Absolute no brainer, just sign him! Cannot believe that in the course of a month he has gone from fantastic prospect with great ability and attitude with a certain Watford future to surplus to requirements. Is this supposed to be a demonstration of how Watford treat their best hardworking academy players? Give him the contract, I'll contribute a tenner! 84AGAIN
  • Score: 5

12:07am Tue 1 Apr 14

SuperHorns says...

There is some complete dead brains on here to think youth is a handicap. Do you remember a Micheal Owen playing for England at the age of 18 and scoring a wonder goal?
I'm not suggesting O'Nien is of the quality of Own, but GIVE YOUTH A CHANCE
There is some complete dead brains on here to think youth is a handicap. Do you remember a Micheal Owen playing for England at the age of 18 and scoring a wonder goal? I'm not suggesting O'Nien is of the quality of Own, but GIVE YOUTH A CHANCE SuperHorns
  • Score: 0

12:34am Tue 1 Apr 14

Imnotadonkey says...

SuperHorns wrote:
There is some complete dead brains on here to think youth is a handicap. Do you remember a Micheal Owen playing for England at the age of 18 and scoring a wonder goal?
I'm not suggesting O'Nien is of the quality of Own, but GIVE YOUTH A CHANCE
'Are' not 'is' 'Michael' not 'Micheal' 'Owen' not 'Own' ..... Those in glass houses
[quote][p][bold]SuperHorns[/bold] wrote: There is some complete dead brains on here to think youth is a handicap. Do you remember a Micheal Owen playing for England at the age of 18 and scoring a wonder goal? I'm not suggesting O'Nien is of the quality of Own, but GIVE YOUTH A CHANCE[/p][/quote]'Are' not 'is' 'Michael' not 'Micheal' 'Owen' not 'Own' ..... Those in glass houses Imnotadonkey
  • Score: 0

5:51am Tue 1 Apr 14

lutondown says...

Imnotadonkey wrote:
SuperHorns wrote:
There is some complete dead brains on here to think youth is a handicap. Do you remember a Micheal Owen playing for England at the age of 18 and scoring a wonder goal?
I'm not suggesting O'Nien is of the quality of Own, but GIVE YOUTH A CHANCE
'Are' not 'is' 'Michael' not 'Micheal' 'Owen' not 'Own' ..... Those in glass houses
Lol
Wasn't someone saying something about dead brains?
Ha ha
All you do is f'ing are.... Ooh are....
All we are saying is give yoof a chance....
Don't you just love it croc man? ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Imnotadonkey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperHorns[/bold] wrote: There is some complete dead brains on here to think youth is a handicap. Do you remember a Micheal Owen playing for England at the age of 18 and scoring a wonder goal? I'm not suggesting O'Nien is of the quality of Own, but GIVE YOUTH A CHANCE[/p][/quote]'Are' not 'is' 'Michael' not 'Micheal' 'Owen' not 'Own' ..... Those in glass houses[/p][/quote]Lol Wasn't someone saying something about dead brains? Ha ha All you do is f'ing are.... Ooh are.... All we are saying is give yoof a chance.... Don't you just love it croc man? ;-) lutondown
  • Score: -1

8:07am Tue 1 Apr 14

Imnotadonkey says...

lutondown wrote:
Imnotadonkey wrote:
SuperHorns wrote:
There is some complete dead brains on here to think youth is a handicap. Do you remember a Micheal Owen playing for England at the age of 18 and scoring a wonder goal?
I'm not suggesting O'Nien is of the quality of Own, but GIVE YOUTH A CHANCE
'Are' not 'is' 'Michael' not 'Micheal' 'Owen' not 'Own' ..... Those in glass houses
Lol
Wasn't someone saying something about dead brains?
Ha ha
All you do is f'ing are.... Ooh are....
All we are saying is give yoof a chance....
Don't you just love it croc man? ;-)
Aaaaaarrrhhh aaaaaarrhhhh chooo choooo
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Imnotadonkey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperHorns[/bold] wrote: There is some complete dead brains on here to think youth is a handicap. Do you remember a Micheal Owen playing for England at the age of 18 and scoring a wonder goal? I'm not suggesting O'Nien is of the quality of Own, but GIVE YOUTH A CHANCE[/p][/quote]'Are' not 'is' 'Michael' not 'Micheal' 'Owen' not 'Own' ..... Those in glass houses[/p][/quote]Lol Wasn't someone saying something about dead brains? Ha ha All you do is f'ing are.... Ooh are.... All we are saying is give yoof a chance.... Don't you just love it croc man? ;-)[/p][/quote]Aaaaaarrrhhh aaaaaarrhhhh chooo choooo Imnotadonkey
  • Score: 0

10:32am Tue 1 Apr 14

Imnotadonkey says...

bushey tales wrote:
Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'
You Cupid Stunt ... What has he got to do with anything?

How's about...
Kevin and Miller?
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: Two words. 'Kevin' and 'Phillips.'[/p][/quote]You Cupid Stunt ... What has he got to do with anything? How's about... Kevin and Miller? Imnotadonkey
  • Score: 0

12:13pm Tue 1 Apr 14

JonBoy says...

Sannino brought him on as a late sub for a reason. Perhaps he was signalling something to Nani?
Sannino brought him on as a late sub for a reason. Perhaps he was signalling something to Nani? JonBoy
  • Score: 0

11:05pm Thu 3 Apr 14

PozzoHornet says...

JonBoy wrote:
Sannino brought him on as a late sub for a reason. Perhaps he was signalling something to Nani?
Or perhaps he was just giving him his long overdue debut (after being named on the bench numerous times) in a game that was already won? There doesn't have to be a sinister reason behind every decision made.
[quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote: Sannino brought him on as a late sub for a reason. Perhaps he was signalling something to Nani?[/p][/quote]Or perhaps he was just giving him his long overdue debut (after being named on the bench numerous times) in a game that was already won? There doesn't have to be a sinister reason behind every decision made. PozzoHornet
  • Score: -1

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