Troy Deeney becomes 25th player to score 50 league and cup goals for Watford

A half-century of Hornets goals: Troy Deeney celebrates with Daniel Pudil on Saturday. Picture: Action Images

A half-century of Hornets goals: Troy Deeney celebrates with Daniel Pudil on Saturday. Picture: Action Images

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When Troy Deeney scored Watford’s second goal in Saturday’s 4-0 victory over Blackpool he joined a select scoring club.

The goal was the striker’s 15th of the season in all competitions and ensured he became the 25th player in the club’s history to net 50 times in league and cup games for Watford.

Deeney’s second of the game to round off the Hornets’ fourth straight home league win took him up another place on Watford’s all-time list, above Terry Garbett and within a goal of pulling level with Nigel Callaghan’s total of 52.

Watford’s all-time leading league and cup scorers

Luther Blissett 148 league + 38 cup = 186 goals

Tommy Barnett 144 +19 = 163

Ross Jenkins 118 + 24 = 142

Cliff Holton 96 + 9 = 105

Charlie White 81 + 7 = 88

John Barnes 65 + 20 = 85

Maurice Cook 68 + 13 = 81

Frank McPherson 67 + 10 = 77

Billy Lane 58 + 9 = 77

George James 57 + 9 = 76

Heidar Helguson 66 + 9 = 75

Taffy Davies 69 + 6 = 75

Fred Pagnam 67 + 7 = 74

Tommy Smith 60 + 4 = 64

Tommy Mooney 58 + 5 = 63

George Edmonds 57 + 3 = 60

George Harris 55 + 5 = 60

Charlie Hare 23 + 36 = 59

Gary Porter 46 + 10 = 56

Paul Wilkinson 51 + 4 = 55

Stewart Scullion 49 + 6 = 55

Keith Mercer 46 + 7 = 53

Nigel Callaghan 42 + 10 = 52

Troy Deeney 48 + 3 = 51

Terry Garbett 46 + 4 = 50

Sourced primarily from www.watfordfcarchive.com

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2:51pm Mon 3 Mar 14

bristol hornet says...

He will be overtaking a few good old favourites soon in Gary Porter, Paul Wilkinson, Stewart Scullion, Keith Mercer and Nigel Callaghan.
How about 60 by the end of the season Troy?
He will be overtaking a few good old favourites soon in Gary Porter, Paul Wilkinson, Stewart Scullion, Keith Mercer and Nigel Callaghan. How about 60 by the end of the season Troy? bristol hornet
  • Score: 14

3:32pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Surbiton says...

bristol hornet wrote:
He will be overtaking a few good old favourites soon in Gary Porter, Paul Wilkinson, Stewart Scullion, Keith Mercer and Nigel Callaghan.
How about 60 by the end of the season Troy?
Yes I fancy that with Renagie as his new partner, he will certainly get at least 20 this season, baring injury. Well done Troy and well deserved for the effort during a very difficult year.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: He will be overtaking a few good old favourites soon in Gary Porter, Paul Wilkinson, Stewart Scullion, Keith Mercer and Nigel Callaghan. How about 60 by the end of the season Troy?[/p][/quote]Yes I fancy that with Renagie as his new partner, he will certainly get at least 20 this season, baring injury. Well done Troy and well deserved for the effort during a very difficult year. Surbiton
  • Score: 11

4:07pm Mon 3 Mar 14

andyhooked says...

Troy has improved by leaps and bounds. May not always be the most clinical of finishers but he runs his socks off. Every player may dip a bit nopw and then. I hope his partnership with Renagie develops further. Blackpool are weak side but they did seem to compliment each other. FF can still fill the hole behind a strong front two.
Troy has improved by leaps and bounds. May not always be the most clinical of finishers but he runs his socks off. Every player may dip a bit nopw and then. I hope his partnership with Renagie develops further. Blackpool are weak side but they did seem to compliment each other. FF can still fill the hole behind a strong front two. andyhooked
  • Score: 14

4:52pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Goldenboy1960 says...

The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right.
The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right. Goldenboy1960
  • Score: 8

5:10pm Mon 3 Mar 14

tiger bay says...

Goldenboy1960 wrote:
The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right.
No danger in playing ONE attacking midfielder in a midfield of FIVE!! Even Sannino has realised and implemented leaving 2 up front when defending corners in the realisation that the opposition will leave a minimum of 3 back. The same go's for open play. ..sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere on the half way line. .
[quote][p][bold]Goldenboy1960[/bold] wrote: The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right.[/p][/quote]No danger in playing ONE attacking midfielder in a midfield of FIVE!! Even Sannino has realised and implemented leaving 2 up front when defending corners in the realisation that the opposition will leave a minimum of 3 back. The same go's for open play. ..sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere on the half way line. . tiger bay
  • Score: 12

6:27pm Mon 3 Mar 14

cliff46 says...

Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,
Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!, cliff46
  • Score: 12

6:36pm Mon 3 Mar 14

1234566789 says...

tiger bay wrote:
Goldenboy1960 wrote:
The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right.
No danger in playing ONE attacking midfielder in a midfield of FIVE!! Even Sannino has realised and implemented leaving 2 up front when defending corners in the realisation that the opposition will leave a minimum of 3 back. The same go's for open play. ..sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere on the half way line. .
By that theory you could play 10 strikers and then you would never concede cause the other team would never get out of their half! You have to find the right balance in keeping your own players forward and actually drawing enough back to cope with however many they push forward.

I like the idea of FF behind the strikers but not sure who else in midfield. With Toszer and who else? Merkel, Battocchio and Murray would all be too offensive for me in that line up....
[quote][p][bold]tiger bay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenboy1960[/bold] wrote: The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right.[/p][/quote]No danger in playing ONE attacking midfielder in a midfield of FIVE!! Even Sannino has realised and implemented leaving 2 up front when defending corners in the realisation that the opposition will leave a minimum of 3 back. The same go's for open play. ..sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere on the half way line. .[/p][/quote]By that theory you could play 10 strikers and then you would never concede cause the other team would never get out of their half! You have to find the right balance in keeping your own players forward and actually drawing enough back to cope with however many they push forward. I like the idea of FF behind the strikers but not sure who else in midfield. With Toszer and who else? Merkel, Battocchio and Murray would all be too offensive for me in that line up.... 1234566789
  • Score: 0

9:03pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Watfordfc69 says...

Great achievement, Troy has been outstanding for three years - I just hope that we can keep him!
Great achievement, Troy has been outstanding for three years - I just hope that we can keep him! Watfordfc69
  • Score: 4

10:16pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Poppet Bear says...

cliff46 wrote:
Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,
15 for me. Doesn't time fly when you're enjoying yourself ?
[quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,[/p][/quote]15 for me. Doesn't time fly when you're enjoying yourself ? Poppet Bear
  • Score: 3

5:26am Tue 4 Mar 14

CARDIFFHORN says...

cliff46 wrote:
Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,
16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't.
[quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,[/p][/quote]16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't. CARDIFFHORN
  • Score: 2

6:57am Tue 4 Mar 14

tiger bay says...

1234566789 wrote:
tiger bay wrote:
Goldenboy1960 wrote:
The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right.
No danger in playing ONE attacking midfielder in a midfield of FIVE!! Even Sannino has realised and implemented leaving 2 up front when defending corners in the realisation that the opposition will leave a minimum of 3 back. The same go's for open play. ..sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere on the half way line. .
By that theory you could play 10 strikers and then you would never concede cause the other team would never get out of their half! You have to find the right balance in keeping your own players forward and actually drawing enough back to cope with however many they push forward.

I like the idea of FF behind the strikers but not sure who else in midfield. With Toszer and who else? Merkel, Battocchio and Murray would all be too offensive for me in that line up....
Your obviously not good with numbers Mr 12345 ....suggesting ONE attacking midfielder is hardly gung-ho!! An attacking midfielder supporting 2 forwards isn't exactly revolutionary and still leaves EIGHT other players to keep you fans of defensive yawnball happy. .
[quote][p][bold]1234566789[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tiger bay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenboy1960[/bold] wrote: The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right.[/p][/quote]No danger in playing ONE attacking midfielder in a midfield of FIVE!! Even Sannino has realised and implemented leaving 2 up front when defending corners in the realisation that the opposition will leave a minimum of 3 back. The same go's for open play. ..sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere on the half way line. .[/p][/quote]By that theory you could play 10 strikers and then you would never concede cause the other team would never get out of their half! You have to find the right balance in keeping your own players forward and actually drawing enough back to cope with however many they push forward. I like the idea of FF behind the strikers but not sure who else in midfield. With Toszer and who else? Merkel, Battocchio and Murray would all be too offensive for me in that line up....[/p][/quote]Your obviously not good with numbers Mr 12345 ....suggesting ONE attacking midfielder is hardly gung-ho!! An attacking midfielder supporting 2 forwards isn't exactly revolutionary and still leaves EIGHT other players to keep you fans of defensive yawnball happy. . tiger bay
  • Score: -1

9:03am Tue 4 Mar 14

bristol hornet says...

CARDIFFHORN wrote:
cliff46 wrote:
Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,
16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't.
16 for me as well.....ah so many golden memories!

I was also surprised that Scullion scored so many, more of a goal maker than a goal scorer, but then he did have two stints at the Vic.

Remember that magical moment when he cake walked around the whole of the Stockport defence before slotting in one of the best ever goals seen at the Vic.
[quote][p][bold]CARDIFFHORN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,[/p][/quote]16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't.[/p][/quote]16 for me as well.....ah so many golden memories! I was also surprised that Scullion scored so many, more of a goal maker than a goal scorer, but then he did have two stints at the Vic. Remember that magical moment when he cake walked around the whole of the Stockport defence before slotting in one of the best ever goals seen at the Vic. bristol hornet
  • Score: 4

9:34am Tue 4 Mar 14

corbindallas says...

Where's Nathan Ellington on the list 3.5 million super signing???? I am just jesting!
Where's Nathan Ellington on the list 3.5 million super signing???? I am just jesting! corbindallas
  • Score: 1

9:37am Tue 4 Mar 14

tommy gunn says...

I wonder if there is anyone out there who can remember Tommy Barnet who scored all his goals without taking a penalty. I believe Tommy went on to work at Wembley Stadium as a masseur for the Wembley Lions Ice Hockey team . I remember 15 of the top scorers. My favourite, without a doubt was big Cliff, what a player. I know he scored his goals in a lower division but would be interested to know how many games it took him
I wonder if there is anyone out there who can remember Tommy Barnet who scored all his goals without taking a penalty. I believe Tommy went on to work at Wembley Stadium as a masseur for the Wembley Lions Ice Hockey team . I remember 15 of the top scorers. My favourite, without a doubt was big Cliff, what a player. I know he scored his goals in a lower division but would be interested to know how many games it took him tommy gunn
  • Score: 4

9:45am Tue 4 Mar 14

tommy gunn says...

I wonder if there is still anyone out there who can remember Tommy Barnet who scored all his goals without taking a penalty. I believe when he retired from the game Tommy went to work at Wembley Stadium as a masseur for Wembley Lions Ice Hockey team. I remember 15 of the top scorers, My favourite, without a doubt, Cliff Holton, what a player. I know most of his goals were scored in the lower division but would be interest find out how many games it took him.?
I wonder if there is still anyone out there who can remember Tommy Barnet who scored all his goals without taking a penalty. I believe when he retired from the game Tommy went to work at Wembley Stadium as a masseur for Wembley Lions Ice Hockey team. I remember 15 of the top scorers, My favourite, without a doubt, Cliff Holton, what a player. I know most of his goals were scored in the lower division but would be interest find out how many games it took him.? tommy gunn
  • Score: -1

10:57am Tue 4 Mar 14

Kismet110 says...

Great achievement in a mostly awful season so well done Troy Deeney but one small correction; his second goal was his 16th of the season (15 League, one FAC) not his 15th.

How this season might have been different if Toszer and Ranegie had joined in the summer rather than January!
Great achievement in a mostly awful season so well done Troy Deeney but one small correction; his second goal was his 16th of the season (15 League, one FAC) not his 15th. How this season might have been different if Toszer and Ranegie had joined in the summer rather than January! Kismet110
  • Score: 3

10:58am Tue 4 Mar 14

Kismet110 says...

PS: Just re-read the article so ignore my gripe above!
PS: Just re-read the article so ignore my gripe above! Kismet110
  • Score: 0

11:59am Tue 4 Mar 14

d.j.smith says...

Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?
Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions? d.j.smith
  • Score: 5

12:32pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Travelling Hornet says...

bristol hornet wrote:
CARDIFFHORN wrote:
cliff46 wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,
16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't.
16 for me as well.....ah so many golden memories! I was also surprised that Scullion scored so many, more of a goal maker than a goal scorer, but then he did have two stints at the Vic. Remember that magical moment when he cake walked around the whole of the Stockport defence before slotting in one of the best ever goals seen at the Vic.
Even the ref clapped, if I remember!
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CARDIFFHORN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,[/p][/quote]16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't.[/p][/quote]16 for me as well.....ah so many golden memories! I was also surprised that Scullion scored so many, more of a goal maker than a goal scorer, but then he did have two stints at the Vic. Remember that magical moment when he cake walked around the whole of the Stockport defence before slotting in one of the best ever goals seen at the Vic.[/p][/quote]Even the ref clapped, if I remember! Travelling Hornet
  • Score: 3

1:06pm Tue 4 Mar 14

CARDIFFHORN says...

Travelling Hornet wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
CARDIFFHORN wrote:
cliff46 wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,
16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't.
16 for me as well.....ah so many golden memories! I was also surprised that Scullion scored so many, more of a goal maker than a goal scorer, but then he did have two stints at the Vic. Remember that magical moment when he cake walked around the whole of the Stockport defence before slotting in one of the best ever goals seen at the Vic.
Even the ref clapped, if I remember!
Yep that goal would be the best I've seen at the Vic alongside a certain Deeney goal!
[quote][p][bold]Travelling Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CARDIFFHORN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,[/p][/quote]16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't.[/p][/quote]16 for me as well.....ah so many golden memories! I was also surprised that Scullion scored so many, more of a goal maker than a goal scorer, but then he did have two stints at the Vic. Remember that magical moment when he cake walked around the whole of the Stockport defence before slotting in one of the best ever goals seen at the Vic.[/p][/quote]Even the ref clapped, if I remember![/p][/quote]Yep that goal would be the best I've seen at the Vic alongside a certain Deeney goal! CARDIFFHORN
  • Score: 2

1:43pm Tue 4 Mar 14

No Wheels says...

Just 12 for me, I'm still a nipper

what is the story with Charlie Hare, and how did he manage to score twice as many cup goals as league goals???
Just 12 for me, I'm still a nipper what is the story with Charlie Hare, and how did he manage to score twice as many cup goals as league goals??? No Wheels
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Tue 4 Mar 14

croxley46 says...

cliff46 wrote:
Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,
Yes, 16 for me too. I think we must be the same age, as the "46" in our user names indicates!
[quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,[/p][/quote]Yes, 16 for me too. I think we must be the same age, as the "46" in our user names indicates! croxley46
  • Score: 3

3:11pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Harry's Bar says...

d.j.smith wrote:
Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?
Francino Francis.

Seriously, of strikers not on that list Mo Johnston is the best I've seen.
[quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?[/p][/quote]Francino Francis. Seriously, of strikers not on that list Mo Johnston is the best I've seen. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 3

3:45pm Tue 4 Mar 14

bristol hornet says...

CARDIFFHORN wrote:
Travelling Hornet wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
CARDIFFHORN wrote:
cliff46 wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,
16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't.
16 for me as well.....ah so many golden memories! I was also surprised that Scullion scored so many, more of a goal maker than a goal scorer, but then he did have two stints at the Vic. Remember that magical moment when he cake walked around the whole of the Stockport defence before slotting in one of the best ever goals seen at the Vic.
Even the ref clapped, if I remember!
Yep that goal would be the best I've seen at the Vic alongside a certain Deeney goal!
Yes my friend, cannot argue with that.
[quote][p][bold]CARDIFFHORN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Travelling Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CARDIFFHORN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: Realising that I have watched 16 of the players listed makes me feel older than ever, thank you wobbly!!!,[/p][/quote]16 for me as well, didn't realise my all time favourite player Scully scored so many and that Barry Endean didn't.[/p][/quote]16 for me as well.....ah so many golden memories! I was also surprised that Scullion scored so many, more of a goal maker than a goal scorer, but then he did have two stints at the Vic. Remember that magical moment when he cake walked around the whole of the Stockport defence before slotting in one of the best ever goals seen at the Vic.[/p][/quote]Even the ref clapped, if I remember![/p][/quote]Yep that goal would be the best I've seen at the Vic alongside a certain Deeney goal![/p][/quote]Yes my friend, cannot argue with that. bristol hornet
  • Score: 3

3:48pm Tue 4 Mar 14

soulfulhornet says...

Congrats to Troy. I know he is not everyone's cup of tea, but when he puts in a shift like he did with Marvin just before Sordell left, with Iwulemo and then with Vydra, he is a handful. I think he is at his best when either playing off a big target man a la Ranegie or when his striking partner has pace.

When on his own or with someone who sits a bit deeper like Forestieri or Fabbrini, he gets a bit isolated. This is especially true if the opposition match the 3-5-2 system and he is fighting against three (usually) big men at the back. Then the quality of the midfield support play becomes paramount and without Abdi's supply this term, he has gone through periods where he has struggled. Still 16 goals is still good going and hopefully he will get to 20 by May.
Congrats to Troy. I know he is not everyone's cup of tea, but when he puts in a shift like he did with Marvin just before Sordell left, with Iwulemo and then with Vydra, he is a handful. I think he is at his best when either playing off a big target man a la Ranegie or when his striking partner has pace. When on his own or with someone who sits a bit deeper like Forestieri or Fabbrini, he gets a bit isolated. This is especially true if the opposition match the 3-5-2 system and he is fighting against three (usually) big men at the back. Then the quality of the midfield support play becomes paramount and without Abdi's supply this term, he has gone through periods where he has struggled. Still 16 goals is still good going and hopefully he will get to 20 by May. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 6

3:52pm Tue 4 Mar 14

bristol hornet says...

d.j.smith wrote:
Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?
A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against.

Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons!

You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?
[quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?[/p][/quote]A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against. Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons! You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly? bristol hornet
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3:59pm Tue 4 Mar 14

bristol hornet says...

Apparently Dennis Uphill died in Watford in 2007 aged 75.

He only played really in that promo season of 1959/60 plus a little bit more, and scored 30 goals in just 51 appearances.

Then moved on to Palace with his previous clubs including Spurs, Reading, Coventry and Mansfield. Scored loads of goals at all of them but his best ratio was at Watford, including that magical season alongside Big Cliff. What memories.
Apparently Dennis Uphill died in Watford in 2007 aged 75. He only played really in that promo season of 1959/60 plus a little bit more, and scored 30 goals in just 51 appearances. Then moved on to Palace with his previous clubs including Spurs, Reading, Coventry and Mansfield. Scored loads of goals at all of them but his best ratio was at Watford, including that magical season alongside Big Cliff. What memories. bristol hornet
  • Score: 2

4:12pm Tue 4 Mar 14

bristol hornet says...

No Wheels wrote:
Just 12 for me, I'm still a nipper

what is the story with Charlie Hare, and how did he manage to score twice as many cup goals as league goals???
I think this might be a mistake?

According to Wikipaedia, Charlie only scored 23 goals in 43 games "official" Southern Leage games, but there were a lot of friendlies back in 1898-1900.

However, he still hold the joint Cup record for us with for most FA Cup goals in a season, with seven in the 1899–1900 campaign.
[quote][p][bold]No Wheels[/bold] wrote: Just 12 for me, I'm still a nipper what is the story with Charlie Hare, and how did he manage to score twice as many cup goals as league goals???[/p][/quote]I think this might be a mistake? According to Wikipaedia, Charlie only scored 23 goals in 43 games "official" Southern Leage games, but there were a lot of friendlies back in 1898-1900. However, he still hold the joint Cup record for us with for most FA Cup goals in a season, with seven in the 1899–1900 campaign. bristol hornet
  • Score: 3

5:43pm Tue 4 Mar 14

cliff46 says...

bristol hornet wrote:
d.j.smith wrote:
Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?
A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against.

Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons!

You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?
Mustn't forget Mickey Benning.
Bunce and Benning , they don't come much quicker than those two
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?[/p][/quote]A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against. Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons! You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?[/p][/quote]Mustn't forget Mickey Benning. Bunce and Benning , they don't come much quicker than those two cliff46
  • Score: 2

5:54pm Tue 4 Mar 14

cliff46 says...

bristol hornet wrote:
d.j.smith wrote:
Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?
A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against.

Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons!

You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?
You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff.
When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?[/p][/quote]A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against. Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons! You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?[/p][/quote]You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff. When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did. cliff46
  • Score: 2

11:21pm Tue 4 Mar 14

BryantheOrn says...

cliff46 wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
d.j.smith wrote:
Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?
A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against.

Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons!

You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?
You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff.
When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did.
15 for me, that's since Nov 1964. I only saw Cliff when Furphy brought him back in 65, way past his best by then. You must remember the Brian Owen "In off the Floodlights " goal. By the way Croxley46, Christ knows how you've survived all these years at The Vic, you was getting rid of your season ticket a couple of weeks ago, after the Forest defeat!
[quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?[/p][/quote]A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against. Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons! You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?[/p][/quote]You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff. When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did.[/p][/quote]15 for me, that's since Nov 1964. I only saw Cliff when Furphy brought him back in 65, way past his best by then. You must remember the Brian Owen "In off the Floodlights " goal. By the way Croxley46, Christ knows how you've survived all these years at The Vic, you was getting rid of your season ticket a couple of weeks ago, after the Forest defeat! BryantheOrn
  • Score: 0

12:59pm Wed 5 Mar 14

1234566789 says...

tiger bay wrote:
1234566789 wrote:
tiger bay wrote:
Goldenboy1960 wrote:
The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right.
No danger in playing ONE attacking midfielder in a midfield of FIVE!! Even Sannino has realised and implemented leaving 2 up front when defending corners in the realisation that the opposition will leave a minimum of 3 back. The same go's for open play. ..sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere on the half way line. .
By that theory you could play 10 strikers and then you would never concede cause the other team would never get out of their half! You have to find the right balance in keeping your own players forward and actually drawing enough back to cope with however many they push forward.

I like the idea of FF behind the strikers but not sure who else in midfield. With Toszer and who else? Merkel, Battocchio and Murray would all be too offensive for me in that line up....
Your obviously not good with numbers Mr 12345 ....suggesting ONE attacking midfielder is hardly gung-ho!! An attacking midfielder supporting 2 forwards isn't exactly revolutionary and still leaves EIGHT other players to keep you fans of defensive yawnball happy. .
And you're obviously not very good at reading (or spelling for that matter). If you read my comment, I am supportive of playing FF behind the strikers. Just making light of the idea that "sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere(sic)"
[quote][p][bold]tiger bay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1234566789[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tiger bay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenboy1960[/bold] wrote: The danger of playing FF as an attacking support player for the front 2 is that midfield as a defending requirement becomes a bit lighter. Its always a balance and if you are away from home it is very difficult. Getting a lead is the key though because the home team have to come out and then you can catch on the counter attack. It's always a balance of decisions and is not easy to predict or get right.[/p][/quote]No danger in playing ONE attacking midfielder in a midfield of FIVE!! Even Sannino has realised and implemented leaving 2 up front when defending corners in the realisation that the opposition will leave a minimum of 3 back. The same go's for open play. ..sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere on the half way line. .[/p][/quote]By that theory you could play 10 strikers and then you would never concede cause the other team would never get out of their half! You have to find the right balance in keeping your own players forward and actually drawing enough back to cope with however many they push forward. I like the idea of FF behind the strikers but not sure who else in midfield. With Toszer and who else? Merkel, Battocchio and Murray would all be too offensive for me in that line up....[/p][/quote]Your obviously not good with numbers Mr 12345 ....suggesting ONE attacking midfielder is hardly gung-ho!! An attacking midfielder supporting 2 forwards isn't exactly revolutionary and still leaves EIGHT other players to keep you fans of defensive yawnball happy. .[/p][/quote]And you're obviously not very good at reading (or spelling for that matter). If you read my comment, I am supportive of playing FF behind the strikers. Just making light of the idea that "sides will not throw 7 or 8 players into attacking moves if they see Deeney, Ranegie and Forestiere(sic)" 1234566789
  • Score: 0

1:55pm Wed 5 Mar 14

croxley46 says...

BryantheOrn wrote:
cliff46 wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
d.j.smith wrote:
Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?
A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against.

Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons!

You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?
You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff.
When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did.
15 for me, that's since Nov 1964. I only saw Cliff when Furphy brought him back in 65, way past his best by then. You must remember the Brian Owen "In off the Floodlights " goal. By the way Croxley46, Christ knows how you've survived all these years at The Vic, you was getting rid of your season ticket a couple of weeks ago, after the Forest defeat!
For BryantheOrn - just noticed your last comment about my support - yes, I'm PASSIONATE about the club I've supported since the early - mid '50's with its many ups and downs. When they lose badly (particularly from a winning position) I get upset and take it out on my keyboard - it's a form of releasing my anger and frustration, better out than in, but after a day or so I feel better for it and try to return to 'normal'!
As I say, it's called PASSION.
[quote][p][bold]BryantheOrn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?[/p][/quote]A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against. Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons! You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?[/p][/quote]You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff. When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did.[/p][/quote]15 for me, that's since Nov 1964. I only saw Cliff when Furphy brought him back in 65, way past his best by then. You must remember the Brian Owen "In off the Floodlights " goal. By the way Croxley46, Christ knows how you've survived all these years at The Vic, you was getting rid of your season ticket a couple of weeks ago, after the Forest defeat![/p][/quote]For BryantheOrn - just noticed your last comment about my support - yes, I'm PASSIONATE about the club I've supported since the early - mid '50's with its many ups and downs. When they lose badly (particularly from a winning position) I get upset and take it out on my keyboard - it's a form of releasing my anger and frustration, better out than in, but after a day or so I feel better for it and try to return to 'normal'! As I say, it's called PASSION. croxley46
  • Score: 0

5:39pm Wed 5 Mar 14

BryantheOrn says...

croxley46 wrote:
BryantheOrn wrote:
cliff46 wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
d.j.smith wrote:
Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?
A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against.

Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons!

You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?
You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff.
When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did.
15 for me, that's since Nov 1964. I only saw Cliff when Furphy brought him back in 65, way past his best by then. You must remember the Brian Owen "In off the Floodlights " goal. By the way Croxley46, Christ knows how you've survived all these years at The Vic, you was getting rid of your season ticket a couple of weeks ago, after the Forest defeat!
For BryantheOrn - just noticed your last comment about my support - yes, I'm PASSIONATE about the club I've supported since the early - mid '50's with its many ups and downs. When they lose badly (particularly from a winning position) I get upset and take it out on my keyboard - it's a form of releasing my anger and frustration, better out than in, but after a day or so I feel better for it and try to return to 'normal'!
As I say, it's called PASSION.
Know how you feel Croxley, I was just wondering how you coped from about 72 to 76 when we were bad. I shut myself off from football when we lose, don't read any newspapers, don't listen to radio etc., after a victory I keep studying our league table.
[quote][p][bold]croxley46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BryantheOrn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?[/p][/quote]A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against. Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons! You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?[/p][/quote]You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff. When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did.[/p][/quote]15 for me, that's since Nov 1964. I only saw Cliff when Furphy brought him back in 65, way past his best by then. You must remember the Brian Owen "In off the Floodlights " goal. By the way Croxley46, Christ knows how you've survived all these years at The Vic, you was getting rid of your season ticket a couple of weeks ago, after the Forest defeat![/p][/quote]For BryantheOrn - just noticed your last comment about my support - yes, I'm PASSIONATE about the club I've supported since the early - mid '50's with its many ups and downs. When they lose badly (particularly from a winning position) I get upset and take it out on my keyboard - it's a form of releasing my anger and frustration, better out than in, but after a day or so I feel better for it and try to return to 'normal'! As I say, it's called PASSION.[/p][/quote]Know how you feel Croxley, I was just wondering how you coped from about 72 to 76 when we were bad. I shut myself off from football when we lose, don't read any newspapers, don't listen to radio etc., after a victory I keep studying our league table. BryantheOrn
  • Score: 1

7:55pm Wed 5 Mar 14

croxley46 says...

BryantheOrn wrote:
croxley46 wrote:
BryantheOrn wrote:
cliff46 wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
d.j.smith wrote:
Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?
A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against.

Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons!

You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?
You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff.
When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did.
15 for me, that's since Nov 1964. I only saw Cliff when Furphy brought him back in 65, way past his best by then. You must remember the Brian Owen "In off the Floodlights " goal. By the way Croxley46, Christ knows how you've survived all these years at The Vic, you was getting rid of your season ticket a couple of weeks ago, after the Forest defeat!
For BryantheOrn - just noticed your last comment about my support - yes, I'm PASSIONATE about the club I've supported since the early - mid '50's with its many ups and downs. When they lose badly (particularly from a winning position) I get upset and take it out on my keyboard - it's a form of releasing my anger and frustration, better out than in, but after a day or so I feel better for it and try to return to 'normal'!
As I say, it's called PASSION.
Know how you feel Croxley, I was just wondering how you coped from about 72 to 76 when we were bad. I shut myself off from football when we lose, don't read any newspapers, don't listen to radio etc., after a victory I keep studying our league table.
Yes, BryantheOrn, the early 70's weren't too good were they, until GT arrived later. Luckily I was still playing local amateur football at that time (even played at the Vic in a local cup final under lights - we got hammered 5-1 !) so missed a lot of home games - thankfully!! Then I got married (in that long hot summer of '76) which cheered me up, then under GT I was cheered up even more!
[quote][p][bold]BryantheOrn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]croxley46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BryantheOrn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Of those of us who remember a lot of the goalscorers mentioned here, who would really stand out as the all-time greatest? It surely has to be Luther? Watching videos of him can still excite me - what fantastic movement and grace and has any player been more loyal to this club? I would put big Cliff Holton second; he set the town alight and his partnership with Dennis Uphill (where is he in the list?) was incredibly productive. My third favourite would have to be Ross Jenkins who made such huge improvement and gave us some great memories. Any other suggestions?[/p][/quote]A very impressive top three, and very hard to argue against. Obviously John Barnes has to be up there, but how many would Vydra have scored if he stayed? He would have been on the list in just over two seasons! You mention the great Dennis Uphill who was part of our fab four of Bunce, Holton, Uphill, and Hartle in our first ever promo season with nearly a 100 goals between them. Surely he should be on the list somewhere? Can you oblige us with his goal tally please Wobbly?[/p][/quote]You are probably right about Luther but in terms of impact and influence on the team and lasting impression on the spectators for me it has to be Cliff. When Watford were stupid enough to let him go to Northampton my future father in law who rarely missed a game swore he would never go to Vicarage Road again and sadly he never did.[/p][/quote]15 for me, that's since Nov 1964. I only saw Cliff when Furphy brought him back in 65, way past his best by then. You must remember the Brian Owen "In off the Floodlights " goal. By the way Croxley46, Christ knows how you've survived all these years at The Vic, you was getting rid of your season ticket a couple of weeks ago, after the Forest defeat![/p][/quote]For BryantheOrn - just noticed your last comment about my support - yes, I'm PASSIONATE about the club I've supported since the early - mid '50's with its many ups and downs. When they lose badly (particularly from a winning position) I get upset and take it out on my keyboard - it's a form of releasing my anger and frustration, better out than in, but after a day or so I feel better for it and try to return to 'normal'! As I say, it's called PASSION.[/p][/quote]Know how you feel Croxley, I was just wondering how you coped from about 72 to 76 when we were bad. I shut myself off from football when we lose, don't read any newspapers, don't listen to radio etc., after a victory I keep studying our league table.[/p][/quote]Yes, BryantheOrn, the early 70's weren't too good were they, until GT arrived later. Luckily I was still playing local amateur football at that time (even played at the Vic in a local cup final under lights - we got hammered 5-1 !) so missed a lot of home games - thankfully!! Then I got married (in that long hot summer of '76) which cheered me up, then under GT I was cheered up even more! croxley46
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