Watford target pacey striker and holding midfielder in January transfer window

Javier Acuna has left Watford on loan. Picture: Holly Cant

Javier Acuna has left Watford on loan. Picture: Holly Cant

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The Hornets hope to sign another striker and holding midfielder before the transfer window closes at the end of January, the Watford Observer understands.

Watford completed the permanent acquisition of 6ft 5in striker Mathias Ranegie and the loan signing of Alexander Merkel last Friday.

But we understand the Golden Boys want to sign two players who can help fill the voids left by Matej Vydra and Jonathan Hogg, who both left in the summer.

The Hornets want to sign a pacey striker who can play on the shoulder of the last defender and also an ‘enforcer’ midfielder who can break up play.

When asked about the club’s transfer policy this month, head coach Beppe Sannino replied: “Some players are leaving but, before the end of the transfer window, the squad will be complete and we will be able to match other teams in terms of numbers and quality.”

He added: “I don’t know how many [players the club will sign] but in my opinion it is best to have a good squad assembled, although I don’t want to have too many players in the squad because we need to consider a lot of aspects in the Championship.

“So the total number of players shouldn’t be too high. I don’t want to have too many players to train.”

“I have spoken with the club and they know what my ideas are. Some will be leaving and some will be arriving,” Sannino added.

George Thorne impressed in the holding midfield role but the Hornets always expected the player to go back to West Bromwich Albion when his loan expired at the weekend and a return to Vicarage Road appears unlikely.

Merkel, who also had offers from the Bundesliga and German second division before joining Watford, can play in the defensive midfield role but he is more of a creative player and may lack the physique to break up play in the way the Hornets regime want.

Iriney performed well in front of the back three at Bristol City on Saturday but after the game Sannino refused to confirm whether the experienced Brazilian had done enough to hold down the place.

He said: “We will have time to assess the team now. I am happy with Iriney tonight but it is too early to speak about the future.”

This Is Local London: Watford's Connor Smith has agreed a new contract. Picture: Holly Cant

The club have tried to play academy graduate Connor Smith as a holding midfielder at times this season but on Wednesday he was loaned out to League One Gillingham until the end of the season.

Sannino said: “I agreed for Connor to go on loan because he needs some minutes. He is a good player and deserves to play. For his development it is very important he plays.”

It has been agreed that Watford striker Javier Acuna will be loaned out to La Liga side Osasuna until the end of the season.

The former Real Madrid B striker joined Watford from Udinese in the summer on a three-year contract and the Hornets hope the player will find some form before rejoining the Golden Boys squad in the summer.

Like Merkel, it was confirmed last Friday that Arsenal wing back Hector Bellerin, who impressed in his first six-match stay at Watford, had joined the Hornets on a temporary deal until the summer.

Bellerin had initially joined the club on an emergency loan at the end of November and the Hornets also confirmed on Monday that Fitz Hall had signed another one-month deal – the third time he has joined the club.

However, we understand that whilst the club will still use the emergency loan system to their advantage, the club ideally want to sign players permanently and then supplement the squad with temporary additions who join for longer periods of time.

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7:19am Fri 10 Jan 14

demerit says...

Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one. demerit
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7:34am Fri 10 Jan 14

Baz loves porridge says...

Hugo Rodallega?
Hugo Rodallega? Baz loves porridge
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7:39am Fri 10 Jan 14

mellow yellow says...

demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
So you adding Troy to your prediction of Anya and Fessi then?

I guess if you name enough of them one will eventually come true. You don't work for The Sun do you?!
[quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]So you adding Troy to your prediction of Anya and Fessi then? I guess if you name enough of them one will eventually come true. You don't work for The Sun do you?! mellow yellow
  • Score: 67

7:49am Fri 10 Jan 14

SuperHorn says...

Forestieri plays well enough as your pacey striker in my eyes, apart from when he gets a knock we don't really, any suggestions?. I imagine well go for a BPL centre mid on loan, frimpong is available I think
Forestieri plays well enough as your pacey striker in my eyes, apart from when he gets a knock we don't really, any suggestions?. I imagine well go for a BPL centre mid on loan, frimpong is available I think SuperHorn
  • Score: -38

8:58am Fri 10 Jan 14

rayman01 says...

Iriney definitely deserves another chance. He has been caught napping a couple of tmes but other than that has IMO performed well. Just like Hogg he is underated. Every time needs a 'hod-carrier' and until we get somebody else in he is our best bet. Getting chemistry right in midfield is key to rest of our season. Losing Chalobah, Hogg and Abdi as well as Vydra's pace/goals gave Zola big void to fill. And one more pacey striker would give more options. Can't see Troy going either. 3 points tomorrow against Reading would be ideal. Luv the Horns!
Iriney definitely deserves another chance. He has been caught napping a couple of tmes but other than that has IMO performed well. Just like Hogg he is underated. Every time needs a 'hod-carrier' and until we get somebody else in he is our best bet. Getting chemistry right in midfield is key to rest of our season. Losing Chalobah, Hogg and Abdi as well as Vydra's pace/goals gave Zola big void to fill. And one more pacey striker would give more options. Can't see Troy going either. 3 points tomorrow against Reading would be ideal. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 39

9:11am Fri 10 Jan 14

tonupchris says...

demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume
[quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume tonupchris
  • Score: 23

9:17am Fri 10 Jan 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

SuperHorn wrote:
Forestieri plays well enough as your pacey striker in my eyes, apart from when he gets a knock we don't really, any suggestions?. I imagine well go for a BPL centre mid on loan, frimpong is available I think
F is really NOT a pacey striker !! We need someone who plays on the shoulder, can break clear of the last man, and finish.

These are the 2 positions we desperately need to fill so good news that that's what the club is looking for. Whether we get anyone decent in is of course another matter ! Nakhi Wells ? I've read Burnley have bid £1.5m which is within our price range for someone who could be worth 2x or 3x that after he's scored a few goals at Champ level.
[quote][p][bold]SuperHorn[/bold] wrote: Forestieri plays well enough as your pacey striker in my eyes, apart from when he gets a knock we don't really, any suggestions?. I imagine well go for a BPL centre mid on loan, frimpong is available I think[/p][/quote]F is really NOT a pacey striker !! We need someone who plays on the shoulder, can break clear of the last man, and finish. These are the 2 positions we desperately need to fill so good news that that's what the club is looking for. Whether we get anyone decent in is of course another matter ! Nakhi Wells ? I've read Burnley have bid £1.5m which is within our price range for someone who could be worth 2x or 3x that after he's scored a few goals at Champ level. Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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9:18am Fri 10 Jan 14

demerit says...

tonupchris wrote:
demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume
Well actually, when typing it in haste, I has in my mind that he would now be side-lined rather than physically leave the club, although that is a possibility. The fact is that if he had performed this season as everyone was expecting, we wouldn't be looking for new strikers at all.
[quote][p][bold]tonupchris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume[/p][/quote]Well actually, when typing it in haste, I has in my mind that he would now be side-lined rather than physically leave the club, although that is a possibility. The fact is that if he had performed this season as everyone was expecting, we wouldn't be looking for new strikers at all. demerit
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9:19am Fri 10 Jan 14

demerit says...

tonupchris wrote:
demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume
Well actually, when typing it in haste, I had in my mind that he would now be side-lined rather than physically leave the club, although that is a possibility. The fact is that if he had performed this season as everyone was expecting, we wouldn't be looking for new strikers at all.
[quote][p][bold]tonupchris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume[/p][/quote]Well actually, when typing it in haste, I had in my mind that he would now be side-lined rather than physically leave the club, although that is a possibility. The fact is that if he had performed this season as everyone was expecting, we wouldn't be looking for new strikers at all. demerit
  • Score: -17

9:26am Fri 10 Jan 14

Hampshire hornet says...

demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
I think you are correct ..
Hogg massively over rated - Iriney is a different class compared to him.

Troy - yes his days are certainly numbered, his performances have been poor this season, he seems to not gel with teh team and appears moody when things dont go his way... he is not the payer he was last season, IU say cash in and lets just remember that goal against Leicester before it all turns really sour.
[quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]I think you are correct .. Hogg massively over rated - Iriney is a different class compared to him. Troy - yes his days are certainly numbered, his performances have been poor this season, he seems to not gel with teh team and appears moody when things dont go his way... he is not the payer he was last season, IU say cash in and lets just remember that goal against Leicester before it all turns really sour. Hampshire hornet
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9:34am Fri 10 Jan 14

gloryhornet4 says...

mellow yellow wrote:
demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
So you adding Troy to your prediction of Anya and Fessi then?

I guess if you name enough of them one will eventually come true. You don't work for The Sun do you?!
Maybe he does work for the Sun as he can't spell.

there NOT their.
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]So you adding Troy to your prediction of Anya and Fessi then? I guess if you name enough of them one will eventually come true. You don't work for The Sun do you?![/p][/quote]Maybe he does work for the Sun as he can't spell. there NOT their. gloryhornet4
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9:45am Fri 10 Jan 14

JohnnyBarnes says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
demerit wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
I think you are correct .. Hogg massively over rated - Iriney is a different class compared to him. Troy - yes his days are certainly numbered, his performances have been poor this season, he seems to not gel with teh team and appears moody when things dont go his way... he is not the payer he was last season, IU say cash in and lets just remember that goal against Leicester before it all turns really sour.
I don't really see where all of this 'the end for Troy' talk is coming from. We're massively light on strikers and have been all season. We need to be adding, not changing!

Certainly Deeney's not hit the heights of last season, but he was never likely to. Quite aside from being a marked man, he's having to play a different role now given Vydra's absence, Abdi is a HUGE miss for him because his first thought is always feeding the strikers... and the team overall has struggled to find its style.

An on-the-shoulder striker would add to Deeney's all-round game, the target man option we now have with Ranegie's arrival, and two skilful number 10s. For me, that's every box ticked up there.

Oh, and get Thorne back - I like him!... although I agree with one of the previous comments that Santos should be given more of a shot. He's got class... and Sannino would add a workrate to his game as well.

I'm very excited about the second half of the season. We're still well in the hunt having had an awful couple of months, we've got couple of really exciting new players to throw in - Merkel in particular is ridiculous! - and a seemingly very capable manager.

Onwards and upwards!
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]I think you are correct .. Hogg massively over rated - Iriney is a different class compared to him. Troy - yes his days are certainly numbered, his performances have been poor this season, he seems to not gel with teh team and appears moody when things dont go his way... he is not the payer he was last season, IU say cash in and lets just remember that goal against Leicester before it all turns really sour.[/p][/quote]I don't really see where all of this 'the end for Troy' talk is coming from. We're massively light on strikers and have been all season. We need to be adding, not changing! Certainly Deeney's not hit the heights of last season, but he was never likely to. Quite aside from being a marked man, he's having to play a different role now given Vydra's absence, Abdi is a HUGE miss for him because his first thought is always feeding the strikers... and the team overall has struggled to find its style. An on-the-shoulder striker would add to Deeney's all-round game, the target man option we now have with Ranegie's arrival, and two skilful number 10s. For me, that's every box ticked up there. Oh, and get Thorne back - I like him!... although I agree with one of the previous comments that Santos should be given more of a shot. He's got class... and Sannino would add a workrate to his game as well. I'm very excited about the second half of the season. We're still well in the hunt having had an awful couple of months, we've got couple of really exciting new players to throw in - Merkel in particular is ridiculous! - and a seemingly very capable manager. Onwards and upwards! JohnnyBarnes
  • Score: 44

9:54am Fri 10 Jan 14

84AGAIN says...

Seems like a lot of decisions re players moved on last year are now being regretted. Hogg very underrated and one of those players who's contributions often go unnoticed. A simple stable core team with the occasional change to the line up rather than the present merry-go-round of players would work wonders but I fear that we will go through the rest of the season with a different line up for every match and finish in no mans land around mid table as a result.
Seems like a lot of decisions re players moved on last year are now being regretted. Hogg very underrated and one of those players who's contributions often go unnoticed. A simple stable core team with the occasional change to the line up rather than the present merry-go-round of players would work wonders but I fear that we will go through the rest of the season with a different line up for every match and finish in no mans land around mid table as a result. 84AGAIN
  • Score: -1

9:54am Fri 10 Jan 14

Stoney77 says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
I think you are correct ..
Hogg massively over rated - Iriney is a different class compared to him.

Troy - yes his days are certainly numbered, his performances have been poor this season, he seems to not gel with teh team and appears moody when things dont go his way... he is not the payer he was last season, IU say cash in and lets just remember that goal against Leicester before it all turns really sour.
I disagree re Troy. We are a completely different outfit from last season and play a different style. Last year Troy had an actual strike partner in Vydra, who played alongside Troy. This allowed Troy to roam further if he wanted, to get stuck in, to chase down more, to roam further from his centre forward position in the knowledge that Vydra would hold a central role if Troy roamed, and vice versa. We broke with pace and so, more often than not, 2 opposition defenders would track Vydra which created so much more space for Troy.
This year Troy has played alongside FF or Fabrrini who essentially play a free role and roam from their position often coming deep and being picked up by opposition midfielders rather than opposition defence, which leaves the opposition defence to double up on Troy. We have also played without pace and a sideways game for most of this season (much to our frustration) which means the opposition has time to re-group and re-shape and man mark Deeney whenever we regain possession. Furthermore, whilst FF and Fabrrini roam around this means that Deeney MUST hold his central position up front - after all, the last time I checked, you cant play football with no strikers. This may be perceived by some as showing a lack of effort, but perhaps he is simply following instructions to 'Hold Position'.
He has proved this season that his finishing ability is as good as last year good but he simply sees less of the ball, has fewer chances and is man marked out of most games.
Judging by my calculations he is on for around 20 goals per season again - which is pretty much the same as he bagged last year.
Anyway, this is just the way I see it. On a tactical side, there's more to it than simply scoring goals and running around like a headless chicken chasing every ball down
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]I think you are correct .. Hogg massively over rated - Iriney is a different class compared to him. Troy - yes his days are certainly numbered, his performances have been poor this season, he seems to not gel with teh team and appears moody when things dont go his way... he is not the payer he was last season, IU say cash in and lets just remember that goal against Leicester before it all turns really sour.[/p][/quote]I disagree re Troy. We are a completely different outfit from last season and play a different style. Last year Troy had an actual strike partner in Vydra, who played alongside Troy. This allowed Troy to roam further if he wanted, to get stuck in, to chase down more, to roam further from his centre forward position in the knowledge that Vydra would hold a central role if Troy roamed, and vice versa. We broke with pace and so, more often than not, 2 opposition defenders would track Vydra which created so much more space for Troy. This year Troy has played alongside FF or Fabrrini who essentially play a free role and roam from their position often coming deep and being picked up by opposition midfielders rather than opposition defence, which leaves the opposition defence to double up on Troy. We have also played without pace and a sideways game for most of this season (much to our frustration) which means the opposition has time to re-group and re-shape and man mark Deeney whenever we regain possession. Furthermore, whilst FF and Fabrrini roam around this means that Deeney MUST hold his central position up front - after all, the last time I checked, you cant play football with no strikers. This may be perceived by some as showing a lack of effort, but perhaps he is simply following instructions to 'Hold Position'. He has proved this season that his finishing ability is as good as last year good but he simply sees less of the ball, has fewer chances and is man marked out of most games. Judging by my calculations he is on for around 20 goals per season again - which is pretty much the same as he bagged last year. Anyway, this is just the way I see it. On a tactical side, there's more to it than simply scoring goals and running around like a headless chicken chasing every ball down Stoney77
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10:13am Fri 10 Jan 14

Smudger Jnr says...

demerit wrote:
tonupchris wrote:
demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume
Well actually, when typing it in haste, I had in my mind that he would now be side-lined rather than physically leave the club, although that is a possibility. The fact is that if he had performed this season as everyone was expecting, we wouldn't be looking for new strikers at all.
Troy Deeney currently has 11 league goals, 1 more than he did at this point last season. He has been single handedly carrying our attack all season. He has 1 less league goal than Leicester's top scorer, Nugent, who in case you hadn't noticed are top. The same amount as Charlie Austin and McGoldrick. 1 more than Vaughan, Ince, LeFondre and Reid (these the club top scorers of teams all above us in the league table).

Please explain to me on what basis you have decided he is having such a shocker!!! Moron
[quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonupchris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume[/p][/quote]Well actually, when typing it in haste, I had in my mind that he would now be side-lined rather than physically leave the club, although that is a possibility. The fact is that if he had performed this season as everyone was expecting, we wouldn't be looking for new strikers at all.[/p][/quote]Troy Deeney currently has 11 league goals, 1 more than he did at this point last season. He has been single handedly carrying our attack all season. He has 1 less league goal than Leicester's top scorer, Nugent, who in case you hadn't noticed are top. The same amount as Charlie Austin and McGoldrick. 1 more than Vaughan, Ince, LeFondre and Reid (these the club top scorers of teams all above us in the league table). Please explain to me on what basis you have decided he is having such a shocker!!! Moron Smudger Jnr
  • Score: 45

10:27am Fri 10 Jan 14

VOReason says...

Deeney has improved his work rate in recent weeks.

We must remember he played up front alone a fair bit under dyche successfully and partnered fessi a fair bit especially at home last season.

For me he had the hump with something or someone but seems back focused again now!
Deeney has improved his work rate in recent weeks. We must remember he played up front alone a fair bit under dyche successfully and partnered fessi a fair bit especially at home last season. For me he had the hump with something or someone but seems back focused again now! VOReason
  • Score: 10

11:31am Fri 10 Jan 14

Letsalldothecongaforbrittassombalonga says...

People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way.
Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before.
Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield.
His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved.
On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog.

Thoughts?

COYH!!!
People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way. Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before. Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield. His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved. On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog. Thoughts? COYH!!! Letsalldothecongaforbrittassombalonga
  • Score: 13

11:32am Fri 10 Jan 14

LifeLongHornet says...

As far as the attacking partnerships go, this is how it will always be from now on:

'Ranégie or Deeney' with 'Fabbrini, Forestieri or this new pacey striker'

It will not be the end of Deeney, after a few games where Ranégie has started I predict Troy will start to feel the heat for his place, and start performing like he did last year. The reason he was so good last year was because last year he was fighting for a place in the team with Geijo, who was a class player who would start for any team in the Championship without question.

Fabbrini and Forestieri are not strikers, they're CAMs, played out of position because they're not defensive enough to challenge Abdi or (yes I'm going to say it) McGugan; who although doesn't actually do much in defence, does at least go back when we are not in possession. In the formation 3-5-2 that we currently play, unfortunately there is no place for either Fabbrini or Forestieri anywhere but the bench, as both make great impact substitutes and can change the game when we play 4-3-3.

As for this pacey striker, there are strong suggestions that Matej Vydra will return next season at Watford. That in mind I don't see any transfers taking place, another loan deal is far more likely. So players I wouldn't be surprised to see join; Will Keane, Isaac Success (another Udinese youngster), Yaya Sanogo. If I was going to buy a new striker though I can't think of a better player, realistically, than Craig Mackail-Smith, a Watford lad himself.

COYHS lets push on and up the table! Bring on the playoffs.
As far as the attacking partnerships go, this is how it will always be from now on: 'Ranégie or Deeney' with 'Fabbrini, Forestieri or this new pacey striker' It will not be the end of Deeney, after a few games where Ranégie has started I predict Troy will start to feel the heat for his place, and start performing like he did last year. The reason he was so good last year was because last year he was fighting for a place in the team with Geijo, who was a class player who would start for any team in the Championship without question. Fabbrini and Forestieri are not strikers, they're CAMs, played out of position because they're not defensive enough to challenge Abdi or (yes I'm going to say it) McGugan; who although doesn't actually do much in defence, does at least go back when we are not in possession. In the formation 3-5-2 that we currently play, unfortunately there is no place for either Fabbrini or Forestieri anywhere but the bench, as both make great impact substitutes and can change the game when we play 4-3-3. As for this pacey striker, there are strong suggestions that Matej Vydra will return next season at Watford. That in mind I don't see any transfers taking place, another loan deal is far more likely. So players I wouldn't be surprised to see join; Will Keane, Isaac Success (another Udinese youngster), Yaya Sanogo. If I was going to buy a new striker though I can't think of a better player, realistically, than Craig Mackail-Smith, a Watford lad himself. COYHS lets push on and up the table! Bring on the playoffs. LifeLongHornet
  • Score: 4

11:33am Fri 10 Jan 14

Dr,Oftaw says...

Patrick Bamford?
Patrick Bamford? Dr,Oftaw
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11:37am Fri 10 Jan 14

Ricky Holden says...

Deeney over achieved last season mainly thanks to his partnership with Vydra, Vydra's movement creating space and the momentum behind the team and club. This season was always likely to be difficult for him being a marked man but his contribution and play has improve massively in the past year. His goal tally equally is not too shabby given some pretty woeful performances. He needs help aligned to someone with pace, movement and a different option.

As for Hoggy, loved him and was sad to see him go but to suggest our failings this year are down to him moving on are short sighted. A factor maybe but not a major one that's Abdi, Vydra and Chalobah.
Deeney over achieved last season mainly thanks to his partnership with Vydra, Vydra's movement creating space and the momentum behind the team and club. This season was always likely to be difficult for him being a marked man but his contribution and play has improve massively in the past year. His goal tally equally is not too shabby given some pretty woeful performances. He needs help aligned to someone with pace, movement and a different option. As for Hoggy, loved him and was sad to see him go but to suggest our failings this year are down to him moving on are short sighted. A factor maybe but not a major one that's Abdi, Vydra and Chalobah. Ricky Holden
  • Score: 11

11:55am Fri 10 Jan 14

D.unstable says...

That boy Vydra at WBA looks quick and can barely get a game, maybe we can see if we can get him on loan? Worth having a word with his agent.
That boy Vydra at WBA looks quick and can barely get a game, maybe we can see if we can get him on loan? Worth having a word with his agent. D.unstable
  • Score: 8

12:07pm Fri 10 Jan 14

demerit says...

Smudger Jnr wrote:
demerit wrote:
tonupchris wrote:
demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume
Well actually, when typing it in haste, I had in my mind that he would now be side-lined rather than physically leave the club, although that is a possibility. The fact is that if he had performed this season as everyone was expecting, we wouldn't be looking for new strikers at all.
Troy Deeney currently has 11 league goals, 1 more than he did at this point last season. He has been single handedly carrying our attack all season. He has 1 less league goal than Leicester's top scorer, Nugent, who in case you hadn't noticed are top. The same amount as Charlie Austin and McGoldrick. 1 more than Vaughan, Ince, LeFondre and Reid (these the club top scorers of teams all above us in the league table).

Please explain to me on what basis you have decided he is having such a shocker!!! Moron
What a sad loser you are. Why end it with "moron"? Pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]Smudger Jnr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonupchris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]Why is Troy leaving? Even if we sign a pacey striker we would still only have 3 out and out strikers. 2+2 according to you = 5, I presume[/p][/quote]Well actually, when typing it in haste, I had in my mind that he would now be side-lined rather than physically leave the club, although that is a possibility. The fact is that if he had performed this season as everyone was expecting, we wouldn't be looking for new strikers at all.[/p][/quote]Troy Deeney currently has 11 league goals, 1 more than he did at this point last season. He has been single handedly carrying our attack all season. He has 1 less league goal than Leicester's top scorer, Nugent, who in case you hadn't noticed are top. The same amount as Charlie Austin and McGoldrick. 1 more than Vaughan, Ince, LeFondre and Reid (these the club top scorers of teams all above us in the league table). Please explain to me on what basis you have decided he is having such a shocker!!! Moron[/p][/quote]What a sad loser you are. Why end it with "moron"? Pathetic. demerit
  • Score: -18

12:09pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Stoney77 says...

Letsalldothecongafor
brittassombalonga
wrote:
People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way.
Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before.
Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield.
His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved.
On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog.

Thoughts?

COYH!!!
Had a chat with a mate who is a season ticket holder at Reading on Tuesday. Seems like they are in a bit of a crisis. He said under Adkins all they do is go sideways, sideways and back, playing themselves into trouble and then hoofing it upfield and there's no urgency and no movement from anyone!!....... sound familiar?!?!?
None of their supporters know why Adkins never starts Le Fondre, and their form is similar to ours during November. Off the pitch they are in disarray with the Russian millionaire who took over 51% of the club from Madejski in the summer seemingly jumping ship and has farked off back to Russia.

Anyway come tomorrow Lets hope they are still on the downward trend on the pitch whilst we continue on the upward trend.

Re injuries Anya, Faraoni and Cassetti out injured so I would say:

Almunia
Doyley, Angella, Ekstrand
Pudil Murray Iriney McGugan (or hopefully Merkel) Bellerin
FF, Deeney
Bench: Bond, Hall, Fab, Merkel (or McG), Ranegie, Battochio, O'Nien

Heard Ranegie may not be fit so if not Ranegie then Mensah or Ikpeazu
[quote][p][bold]Letsalldothecongafor brittassombalonga[/bold] wrote: People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way. Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before. Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield. His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved. On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog. Thoughts? COYH!!![/p][/quote]Had a chat with a mate who is a season ticket holder at Reading on Tuesday. Seems like they are in a bit of a crisis. He said under Adkins all they do is go sideways, sideways and back, playing themselves into trouble and then hoofing it upfield and there's no urgency and no movement from anyone!!....... sound familiar?!?!? None of their supporters know why Adkins never starts Le Fondre, and their form is similar to ours during November. Off the pitch they are in disarray with the Russian millionaire who took over 51% of the club from Madejski in the summer seemingly jumping ship and has farked off back to Russia. Anyway come tomorrow Lets hope they are still on the downward trend on the pitch whilst we continue on the upward trend. Re injuries Anya, Faraoni and Cassetti out injured so I would say: Almunia Doyley, Angella, Ekstrand Pudil Murray Iriney McGugan (or hopefully Merkel) Bellerin FF, Deeney Bench: Bond, Hall, Fab, Merkel (or McG), Ranegie, Battochio, O'Nien Heard Ranegie may not be fit so if not Ranegie then Mensah or Ikpeazu Stoney77
  • Score: 8

12:27pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

Stoney77 wrote:
Letsalldothecongafor

brittassombalonga
wrote:
People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way.
Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before.
Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield.
His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved.
On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog.

Thoughts?

COYH!!!
Had a chat with a mate who is a season ticket holder at Reading on Tuesday. Seems like they are in a bit of a crisis. He said under Adkins all they do is go sideways, sideways and back, playing themselves into trouble and then hoofing it upfield and there's no urgency and no movement from anyone!!....... sound familiar?!?!?
None of their supporters know why Adkins never starts Le Fondre, and their form is similar to ours during November. Off the pitch they are in disarray with the Russian millionaire who took over 51% of the club from Madejski in the summer seemingly jumping ship and has farked off back to Russia.

Anyway come tomorrow Lets hope they are still on the downward trend on the pitch whilst we continue on the upward trend.

Re injuries Anya, Faraoni and Cassetti out injured so I would say:

Almunia
Doyley, Angella, Ekstrand
Pudil Murray Iriney McGugan (or hopefully Merkel) Bellerin
FF, Deeney
Bench: Bond, Hall, Fab, Merkel (or McG), Ranegie, Battochio, O'Nien

Heard Ranegie may not be fit so if not Ranegie then Mensah or Ikpeazu
looks about right though Merkel might replace Murray rather than McG - hopefully not !!
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Letsalldothecongafor brittassombalonga[/bold] wrote: People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way. Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before. Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield. His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved. On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog. Thoughts? COYH!!![/p][/quote]Had a chat with a mate who is a season ticket holder at Reading on Tuesday. Seems like they are in a bit of a crisis. He said under Adkins all they do is go sideways, sideways and back, playing themselves into trouble and then hoofing it upfield and there's no urgency and no movement from anyone!!....... sound familiar?!?!? None of their supporters know why Adkins never starts Le Fondre, and their form is similar to ours during November. Off the pitch they are in disarray with the Russian millionaire who took over 51% of the club from Madejski in the summer seemingly jumping ship and has farked off back to Russia. Anyway come tomorrow Lets hope they are still on the downward trend on the pitch whilst we continue on the upward trend. Re injuries Anya, Faraoni and Cassetti out injured so I would say: Almunia Doyley, Angella, Ekstrand Pudil Murray Iriney McGugan (or hopefully Merkel) Bellerin FF, Deeney Bench: Bond, Hall, Fab, Merkel (or McG), Ranegie, Battochio, O'Nien Heard Ranegie may not be fit so if not Ranegie then Mensah or Ikpeazu[/p][/quote]looks about right though Merkel might replace Murray rather than McG - hopefully not !! Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 6

12:29pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Boosey says...

Stoney77 wrote:
Letsalldothecongafor brittassombalonga wrote: People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way. Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before. Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield. His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved. On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog. Thoughts? COYH!!!
Had a chat with a mate who is a season ticket holder at Reading on Tuesday. Seems like they are in a bit of a crisis. He said under Adkins all they do is go sideways, sideways and back, playing themselves into trouble and then hoofing it upfield and there's no urgency and no movement from anyone!!....... sound familiar?!?!? None of their supporters know why Adkins never starts Le Fondre, and their form is similar to ours during November. Off the pitch they are in disarray with the Russian millionaire who took over 51% of the club from Madejski in the summer seemingly jumping ship and has farked off back to Russia. Anyway come tomorrow Lets hope they are still on the downward trend on the pitch whilst we continue on the upward trend. Re injuries Anya, Faraoni and Cassetti out injured so I would say: Almunia Doyley, Angella, Ekstrand Pudil Murray Iriney McGugan (or hopefully Merkel) Bellerin FF, Deeney Bench: Bond, Hall, Fab, Merkel (or McG), Ranegie, Battochio, O'Nien Heard Ranegie may not be fit so if not Ranegie then Mensah or Ikpeazu
Must admit I am not a fan of McGugan but maybe if Merkel starts I would like to see McGugan play just behind Deeney which unfortunately leaves FF out.
Just maybe with Merkel in the side it will be the making of McGugan.
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Letsalldothecongafor brittassombalonga[/bold] wrote: People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way. Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before. Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield. His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved. On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog. Thoughts? COYH!!![/p][/quote]Had a chat with a mate who is a season ticket holder at Reading on Tuesday. Seems like they are in a bit of a crisis. He said under Adkins all they do is go sideways, sideways and back, playing themselves into trouble and then hoofing it upfield and there's no urgency and no movement from anyone!!....... sound familiar?!?!? None of their supporters know why Adkins never starts Le Fondre, and their form is similar to ours during November. Off the pitch they are in disarray with the Russian millionaire who took over 51% of the club from Madejski in the summer seemingly jumping ship and has farked off back to Russia. Anyway come tomorrow Lets hope they are still on the downward trend on the pitch whilst we continue on the upward trend. Re injuries Anya, Faraoni and Cassetti out injured so I would say: Almunia Doyley, Angella, Ekstrand Pudil Murray Iriney McGugan (or hopefully Merkel) Bellerin FF, Deeney Bench: Bond, Hall, Fab, Merkel (or McG), Ranegie, Battochio, O'Nien Heard Ranegie may not be fit so if not Ranegie then Mensah or Ikpeazu[/p][/quote]Must admit I am not a fan of McGugan but maybe if Merkel starts I would like to see McGugan play just behind Deeney which unfortunately leaves FF out. Just maybe with Merkel in the side it will be the making of McGugan. Boosey
  • Score: 6

1:36pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Larrythe Loafer 'Orn says...

Why do people say we miss Chalobah so much?
He is certainly talented but insisted on 'tekkers' skill all the time. Drag backs etc which are fine when you are quick, but he certainly tired after 60 mins and as he got that bit slower - kept losing the ball.
Has a great shot as he showed against Leicester but could not tackle as he showed against Peterborough when twice men went past him like he wasn't there.
We need a creative enforcer in midfield.
What about this alternative
3 - 1 - 5 - 2 with Angella playing in front of a back three, or
4 - 1- 4 -2 again with Angella in front of a back four with Nosworthy and Hall in the middle plus Bellerin / Doyle/ Ekstrand and of course Abdi when fit.
Why do people say we miss Chalobah so much? He is certainly talented but insisted on 'tekkers' skill all the time. Drag backs etc which are fine when you are quick, but he certainly tired after 60 mins and as he got that bit slower - kept losing the ball. Has a great shot as he showed against Leicester but could not tackle as he showed against Peterborough when twice men went past him like he wasn't there. We need a creative enforcer in midfield. What about this alternative 3 - 1 - 5 - 2 with Angella playing in front of a back three, or 4 - 1- 4 -2 again with Angella in front of a back four with Nosworthy and Hall in the middle plus Bellerin / Doyle/ Ekstrand and of course Abdi when fit. Larrythe Loafer 'Orn
  • Score: -8

1:55pm Fri 10 Jan 14

LifeLongHornet says...

Larrythe Loafer 'Orn wrote:
Why do people say we miss Chalobah so much?
He is certainly talented but insisted on 'tekkers' skill all the time. Drag backs etc which are fine when you are quick, but he certainly tired after 60 mins and as he got that bit slower - kept losing the ball.
Has a great shot as he showed against Leicester but could not tackle as he showed against Peterborough when twice men went past him like he wasn't there.
We need a creative enforcer in midfield.
What about this alternative
3 - 1 - 5 - 2 with Angella playing in front of a back three, or
4 - 1- 4 -2 again with Angella in front of a back four with Nosworthy and Hall in the middle plus Bellerin / Doyle/ Ekstrand and of course Abdi when fit.
Both those teams have 12 men in them... So no I don't think those formations work.
[quote][p][bold]Larrythe Loafer 'Orn[/bold] wrote: Why do people say we miss Chalobah so much? He is certainly talented but insisted on 'tekkers' skill all the time. Drag backs etc which are fine when you are quick, but he certainly tired after 60 mins and as he got that bit slower - kept losing the ball. Has a great shot as he showed against Leicester but could not tackle as he showed against Peterborough when twice men went past him like he wasn't there. We need a creative enforcer in midfield. What about this alternative 3 - 1 - 5 - 2 with Angella playing in front of a back three, or 4 - 1- 4 -2 again with Angella in front of a back four with Nosworthy and Hall in the middle plus Bellerin / Doyle/ Ekstrand and of course Abdi when fit.[/p][/quote]Both those teams have 12 men in them... So no I don't think those formations work. LifeLongHornet
  • Score: 15

2:04pm Fri 10 Jan 14

1982WFC says...

3 - 1 - 5 - 2 = 11
4 - 1 - 4 - 2 = 11

Should be fun with no keeper ;)
Please tell me you were joking
3 - 1 - 5 - 2 = 11 4 - 1 - 4 - 2 = 11 Should be fun with no keeper ;) Please tell me you were joking 1982WFC
  • Score: 10

2:35pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Jamesyhornetboy says...

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dsfsdf Jamesyhornetboy
  • Score: -2

2:36pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Jamesyhornetboy says...

Acuna never got a proper chance to show what he could do. Looked very promising against Grenada in the summer, albeit it was a friendly.

Alexander Merkel????

is that not the German Chancellor?

#to55ers
Acuna never got a proper chance to show what he could do. Looked very promising against Grenada in the summer, albeit it was a friendly. Alexander Merkel???? is that not the German Chancellor? #to55ers Jamesyhornetboy
  • Score: -8

2:53pm Fri 10 Jan 14

demerit says...

Jamesyhornetboy wrote:
Acuna never got a proper chance to show what he could do. Looked very promising against Grenada in the summer, albeit it was a friendly.

Alexander Merkel????

is that not the German Chancellor?

#to55ers
I have just been dwelling on the vision of her in a hornets kit.....nice.
[quote][p][bold]Jamesyhornetboy[/bold] wrote: Acuna never got a proper chance to show what he could do. Looked very promising against Grenada in the summer, albeit it was a friendly. Alexander Merkel???? is that not the German Chancellor? #to55ers[/p][/quote]I have just been dwelling on the vision of her in a hornets kit.....nice. demerit
  • Score: -5

2:55pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Jamesyhornetboy says...

Given her fondess for loans in Europe I expect she'd fit in just fine!
Given her fondess for loans in Europe I expect she'd fit in just fine! Jamesyhornetboy
  • Score: 1

3:41pm Fri 10 Jan 14

SuperHorn says...

Stoney77 wrote:
Letsalldothecongafor

brittassombalonga
wrote:
People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way.
Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before.
Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield.
His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved.
On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog.

Thoughts?

COYH!!!
Had a chat with a mate who is a season ticket holder at Reading on Tuesday. Seems like they are in a bit of a crisis. He said under Adkins all they do is go sideways, sideways and back, playing themselves into trouble and then hoofing it upfield and there's no urgency and no movement from anyone!!....... sound familiar?!?!?
None of their supporters know why Adkins never starts Le Fondre, and their form is similar to ours during November. Off the pitch they are in disarray with the Russian millionaire who took over 51% of the club from Madejski in the summer seemingly jumping ship and has farked off back to Russia.

Anyway come tomorrow Lets hope they are still on the downward trend on the pitch whilst we continue on the upward trend.

Re injuries Anya, Faraoni and Cassetti out injured so I would say:

Almunia
Doyley, Angella, Ekstrand
Pudil Murray Iriney McGugan (or hopefully Merkel) Bellerin
FF, Deeney
Bench: Bond, Hall, Fab, Merkel (or McG), Ranegie, Battochio, O'Nien

Heard Ranegie may not be fit so if not Ranegie then Mensah or Ikpeazu
Mensahs gone to Braintree
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Letsalldothecongafor brittassombalonga[/bold] wrote: People on here having a go at Troy are showing themselves up in a big way. Anyone wanting him to leave is mad. If Troy goes we are left with two (highly rated) kids in Ikpeazu and Mensah and a giant who is not match-fit and has never played in the country before. Demerit, you really need to think before posting. If Troy is not doing well then I'd say 11 goals so far is pretty great for an under-performing player. Especially one who has gone half a season without a partner or much service from midfield. His goal against Ipswich shows exactly why he is so important to us. A goal from nothing that saved us a point. It is scraps like that that he has had to live off all season. I think he should be commended for what he has achieved. On to tomorrow, what does everyone see as our most likely/best starting 11? It seems as if everyone is back fit apart from Belkalem, Hoban and Abdi. Reckon we might just shade Reading tomorrow, they have a fare few injuries and ALF is unsettled so they will be relying heavily on the Pog. Thoughts? COYH!!![/p][/quote]Had a chat with a mate who is a season ticket holder at Reading on Tuesday. Seems like they are in a bit of a crisis. He said under Adkins all they do is go sideways, sideways and back, playing themselves into trouble and then hoofing it upfield and there's no urgency and no movement from anyone!!....... sound familiar?!?!? None of their supporters know why Adkins never starts Le Fondre, and their form is similar to ours during November. Off the pitch they are in disarray with the Russian millionaire who took over 51% of the club from Madejski in the summer seemingly jumping ship and has farked off back to Russia. Anyway come tomorrow Lets hope they are still on the downward trend on the pitch whilst we continue on the upward trend. Re injuries Anya, Faraoni and Cassetti out injured so I would say: Almunia Doyley, Angella, Ekstrand Pudil Murray Iriney McGugan (or hopefully Merkel) Bellerin FF, Deeney Bench: Bond, Hall, Fab, Merkel (or McG), Ranegie, Battochio, O'Nien Heard Ranegie may not be fit so if not Ranegie then Mensah or Ikpeazu[/p][/quote]Mensahs gone to Braintree SuperHorn
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Fri 10 Jan 14

SAHornet says...

LifeLongHornet wrote:
Larrythe Loafer 'Orn wrote:
Why do people say we miss Chalobah so much?
He is certainly talented but insisted on 'tekkers' skill all the time. Drag backs etc which are fine when you are quick, but he certainly tired after 60 mins and as he got that bit slower - kept losing the ball.
Has a great shot as he showed against Leicester but could not tackle as he showed against Peterborough when twice men went past him like he wasn't there.
We need a creative enforcer in midfield.
What about this alternative
3 - 1 - 5 - 2 with Angella playing in front of a back three, or
4 - 1- 4 -2 again with Angella in front of a back four with Nosworthy and Hall in the middle plus Bellerin / Doyle/ Ekstrand and of course Abdi when fit.
Both those teams have 12 men in them... So no I don't think those formations work.
OMG, try counting why doncha?
[quote][p][bold]LifeLongHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Larrythe Loafer 'Orn[/bold] wrote: Why do people say we miss Chalobah so much? He is certainly talented but insisted on 'tekkers' skill all the time. Drag backs etc which are fine when you are quick, but he certainly tired after 60 mins and as he got that bit slower - kept losing the ball. Has a great shot as he showed against Leicester but could not tackle as he showed against Peterborough when twice men went past him like he wasn't there. We need a creative enforcer in midfield. What about this alternative 3 - 1 - 5 - 2 with Angella playing in front of a back three, or 4 - 1- 4 -2 again with Angella in front of a back four with Nosworthy and Hall in the middle plus Bellerin / Doyle/ Ekstrand and of course Abdi when fit.[/p][/quote]Both those teams have 12 men in them... So no I don't think those formations work.[/p][/quote]OMG, try counting why doncha? SAHornet
  • Score: 3

4:18pm Fri 10 Jan 14

demerit says...

SAHornet wrote:
LifeLongHornet wrote:
Larrythe Loafer 'Orn wrote:
Why do people say we miss Chalobah so much?
He is certainly talented but insisted on 'tekkers' skill all the time. Drag backs etc which are fine when you are quick, but he certainly tired after 60 mins and as he got that bit slower - kept losing the ball.
Has a great shot as he showed against Leicester but could not tackle as he showed against Peterborough when twice men went past him like he wasn't there.
We need a creative enforcer in midfield.
What about this alternative
3 - 1 - 5 - 2 with Angella playing in front of a back three, or
4 - 1- 4 -2 again with Angella in front of a back four with Nosworthy and Hall in the middle plus Bellerin / Doyle/ Ekstrand and of course Abdi when fit.
Both those teams have 12 men in them... So no I don't think those formations work.
OMG, try counting why doncha?
I think he's put 2 and 2 together and got 5.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LifeLongHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Larrythe Loafer 'Orn[/bold] wrote: Why do people say we miss Chalobah so much? He is certainly talented but insisted on 'tekkers' skill all the time. Drag backs etc which are fine when you are quick, but he certainly tired after 60 mins and as he got that bit slower - kept losing the ball. Has a great shot as he showed against Leicester but could not tackle as he showed against Peterborough when twice men went past him like he wasn't there. We need a creative enforcer in midfield. What about this alternative 3 - 1 - 5 - 2 with Angella playing in front of a back three, or 4 - 1- 4 -2 again with Angella in front of a back four with Nosworthy and Hall in the middle plus Bellerin / Doyle/ Ekstrand and of course Abdi when fit.[/p][/quote]Both those teams have 12 men in them... So no I don't think those formations work.[/p][/quote]OMG, try counting why doncha?[/p][/quote]I think he's put 2 and 2 together and got 5. demerit
  • Score: 1

4:23pm Fri 10 Jan 14

WFC FANMAN says...

We are in talk with Fulhams midfielder read here http://www1.skysport
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This player has. Not been player since the summer transfer.
We are in talk with Fulhams midfielder read here http://www1.skysport s.com/football/news/ 12040/9109624/transf er-news-watford-inte rested-in-fulham-mid fielder-derek-boaten g This player has. Not been player since the summer transfer. WFC FANMAN
  • Score: 1

6:31pm Fri 10 Jan 14

bert slater says...

slowly slowly catchy monkey we are going in the right direction tomorrows result should tell us what the rest of the season holds four games 1 win 3 draws no loses come on you HORNS
slowly slowly catchy monkey we are going in the right direction tomorrows result should tell us what the rest of the season holds four games 1 win 3 draws no loses come on you HORNS bert slater
  • Score: 3

6:47pm Fri 10 Jan 14

berkshire orn says...

Watford 3 Reading 1 come on you horns
Watford 3 Reading 1 come on you horns berkshire orn
  • Score: 2

7:15pm Fri 10 Jan 14

JohnnyHornet says...

OK then, Nakhi Wells to Huddersfield obviously is not the pacey forward we're after.
OK then, Nakhi Wells to Huddersfield obviously is not the pacey forward we're after. JohnnyHornet
  • Score: 2

7:30pm Fri 10 Jan 14

lutondown says...

mellow yellow wrote:
demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
So you adding Troy to your prediction of Anya and Fessi then?

I guess if you name enough of them one will eventually come true. You don't work for The Sun do you?!
Troys going mellow
It's just a case of when
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]So you adding Troy to your prediction of Anya and Fessi then? I guess if you name enough of them one will eventually come true. You don't work for The Sun do you?![/p][/quote]Troys going mellow It's just a case of when lutondown
  • Score: 4

8:37pm Fri 10 Jan 14

D.unstable says...

lutondown wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
demerit wrote:
Bye-bye Troy then.

When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.
So you adding Troy to your prediction of Anya and Fessi then?

I guess if you name enough of them one will eventually come true. You don't work for The Sun do you?!
Troys going mellow
It's just a case of when
Need to cash in sooner rather than later. Start the bidding.....
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: Bye-bye Troy then. When Hogg left, was their a void? I didn't see one.[/p][/quote]So you adding Troy to your prediction of Anya and Fessi then? I guess if you name enough of them one will eventually come true. You don't work for The Sun do you?![/p][/quote]Troys going mellow It's just a case of when[/p][/quote]Need to cash in sooner rather than later. Start the bidding..... D.unstable
  • Score: 5

9:34pm Fri 10 Jan 14

D.unstable says...

Derek Boatang at Fulham is heavily linked as the holding / defensive midfielder.
Derek Boatang at Fulham is heavily linked as the holding / defensive midfielder. D.unstable
  • Score: 4

5:23pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Goldenboy1960 says...

1982WFC wrote:
3 - 1 - 5 - 2 = 11
4 - 1 - 4 - 2 = 11

Should be fun with no keeper ;)
Please tell me you were joking
Glad you're not picking the team...
[quote][p][bold]1982WFC[/bold] wrote: 3 - 1 - 5 - 2 = 11 4 - 1 - 4 - 2 = 11 Should be fun with no keeper ;) Please tell me you were joking[/p][/quote]Glad you're not picking the team... Goldenboy1960
  • Score: 0

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