Watford confirm the appointment of Giuseppe Sannino as head coach

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Watford have confirmed the appointment of Giuseppe Sannino as head coach.

The 56-year-old starts immediately and will be joined by assistant coaches Francesco Troise, Giovanni Cusatis (both pictured below) and Paolo De Toffol.

Sannino has 17 years coaching experience in his native Italy and whilst his most recent spells at Chievo and Palermo may be deemed as failures, he has enjoyed huge success outside of Serie A.

The Hornets have yet to confirm the length of his contract but a website in Italy is reporting he has signed a deal until the end of the season with the option of an extra year.

Whilst the club have yet to confirm it, the appointment of four new members of coaching staff and a message from Sebastiano Porcu on Twitter appears to indicate his and fellow assistant head coach Adolfo Sormani’s departure.

Porcu’s message read: “A big thank you to all players and supporters for every moment this year. [From] Bastiano Porcu and Adolfo Sormani.”

Sannino, who had a long playing career in the lower leagues of Italian football, flew to England yesterday and was pictured last night in a meeting with owner Gino Pozzo and other senior members of staff.

It is currently unclear whether Alfredo Sebastiani will also be joining the coaching staff. An Italian newspaper published an interview with Sebastiani and an article which had suggested he was joining the Hornets.

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10:39am Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

We're f0cked!
We're f0cked! watfordrick

10:40am Wed 18 Dec 13

Watfordwes says...

They aren't hanging about are they!!!!

Let's go Sannino!!!!
They aren't hanging about are they!!!! Let's go Sannino!!!! Watfordwes

10:42am Wed 18 Dec 13

Bonser Out says...

Excellent news. Good to see a quick and positive decision from the Pozzo's & that it looks like the No.2 position will be sorted out very soon.

COYH!
Excellent news. Good to see a quick and positive decision from the Pozzo's & that it looks like the No.2 position will be sorted out very soon. COYH! Bonser Out

10:44am Wed 18 Dec 13

gasguzzler says...

Mark my words,
By March baldy will be on his bike and we'll be staring down the barrel at relegation.
COYH.
Mark my words, By March baldy will be on his bike and we'll be staring down the barrel at relegation. COYH. gasguzzler

10:49am Wed 18 Dec 13

andyandyandy says...

Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor!
Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor! andyandyandy

10:49am Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

gasguzzler wrote:
Mark my words,
By March baldy will be on his bike and we'll be staring down the barrel at relegation.
COYH.
Agree what makes people think he'll be successful - cos he's foreign and we have foreign players.
[quote][p][bold]gasguzzler[/bold] wrote: Mark my words, By March baldy will be on his bike and we'll be staring down the barrel at relegation. COYH.[/p][/quote]Agree what makes people think he'll be successful - cos he's foreign and we have foreign players. watfordrick

10:52am Wed 18 Dec 13

albertmcglenaghan says...

Can any of the new appointees speak English? Oh, it doesn't matter does it; half our first team squad are Italian speakers anyway. Sorry, just can't see this lasting, happy to be proved wrong.
Can any of the new appointees speak English? Oh, it doesn't matter does it; half our first team squad are Italian speakers anyway. Sorry, just can't see this lasting, happy to be proved wrong. albertmcglenaghan

10:54am Wed 18 Dec 13

pepsiman says...

RIP Watford FC
RIP Watford FC pepsiman

10:55am Wed 18 Dec 13

jasonwatford says...

Glad to see first 7 and moaning !!!!! I guess we wont be seeing you...it will be no loss
Glad to see first 7 and moaning !!!!! I guess we wont be seeing you...it will be no loss jasonwatford

10:55am Wed 18 Dec 13

GoldenManc says...

He has had a management job for 19 years - got 4 promotions & no relegations - I think he's a safe pair of hands
He has had a management job for 19 years - got 4 promotions & no relegations - I think he's a safe pair of hands GoldenManc

10:55am Wed 18 Dec 13

H0RN3TSFAN says...

Whether we agree or not, it has happened. Good that the uncertainty didn't last long. New manager, hopefully new players in the transfer window, and lets get behind the team. COYH.
Whether we agree or not, it has happened. Good that the uncertainty didn't last long. New manager, hopefully new players in the transfer window, and lets get behind the team. COYH. H0RN3TSFAN

10:56am Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

jasonwatford wrote:
Glad to see first 7 and moaning !!!!! I guess we wont be seeing you...it will be no loss
It might be on ground receipts !
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: Glad to see first 7 and moaning !!!!! I guess we wont be seeing you...it will be no loss[/p][/quote]It might be on ground receipts ! watfordrick

11:00am Wed 18 Dec 13

steveherts says...

He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens.
He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens. steveherts

11:01am Wed 18 Dec 13

Ornet1 says...

Are you really that deluded and negative? He's only just been appointed manager and your already condemning him to failure? Give him a chance for god's sake, It's the negative fans like you that make this club go sideways. Onwards and upwards!
Are you really that deluded and negative? He's only just been appointed manager and your already condemning him to failure? Give him a chance for god's sake, It's the negative fans like you that make this club go sideways. Onwards and upwards! Ornet1

11:02am Wed 18 Dec 13

Watfordwes says...

Prefers 4 4 2 but can be flexible, speaks no English though!


Listen to talk sport from 4, w@nker Durham is going to lay into us for sure!!!
Prefers 4 4 2 but can be flexible, speaks no English though! Listen to talk sport from 4, w@nker Durham is going to lay into us for sure!!! Watfordwes

11:05am Wed 18 Dec 13

ForzaWatford says...

Can't we just get behind him?

Morons.
Can't we just get behind him? Morons. ForzaWatford

11:05am Wed 18 Dec 13

thepriceisnickywright says...

A quick appointment which is always a positive. Can't say I am overly thrilled he can't speak English, but then half our squad is Italian/Spanish so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. I just hope he sticks with some of the young English talent we have like Bond, Hoban, Murray, and they don't get frozen out or disillusioned. Onwards and Upwards.
A quick appointment which is always a positive. Can't say I am overly thrilled he can't speak English, but then half our squad is Italian/Spanish so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. I just hope he sticks with some of the young English talent we have like Bond, Hoban, Murray, and they don't get frozen out or disillusioned. Onwards and Upwards. thepriceisnickywright

11:06am Wed 18 Dec 13

MUSTOITALIA says...

I have not posted for a while but I read every comment on every story and I must say it saddens me to see the way people are towards each other. We come here because we share a common interest and that is Watford we are all entitled to our own opinions some think with logic and others think with emotions it doesn't make some one a "tool" "Idiot" or any other insulting comment. I believe Zola had to go but did hope he would have been supported and given a good No2 that was not the case and we are moving on. Judge as you will but if you was the Pozzo's and put millions into an investment you would hire some one you trust to succeed with a good knowledge of how to fix the problems we have and the ability to interact the Italian players and set up we already have. Championship experience im sure we would all prefer but we need a good problem solver and im sure these two are the guys to do it. Have faith all we need to do is add steel to midfield shore up the defence and get another striker I don't have championship experience but im pretty sure that would solve the problems highlighted by our current failings in the league.
I have not posted for a while but I read every comment on every story and I must say it saddens me to see the way people are towards each other. We come here because we share a common interest and that is Watford we are all entitled to our own opinions some think with logic and others think with emotions it doesn't make some one a "tool" "Idiot" or any other insulting comment. I believe Zola had to go but did hope he would have been supported and given a good No2 that was not the case and we are moving on. Judge as you will but if you was the Pozzo's and put millions into an investment you would hire some one you trust to succeed with a good knowledge of how to fix the problems we have and the ability to interact the Italian players and set up we already have. Championship experience im sure we would all prefer but we need a good problem solver and im sure these two are the guys to do it. Have faith all we need to do is add steel to midfield shore up the defence and get another striker I don't have championship experience but im pretty sure that would solve the problems highlighted by our current failings in the league. MUSTOITALIA

11:09am Wed 18 Dec 13

llloydwithathirdl says...

andyandyandy wrote:
Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor!
the people moaning about this appointment are the same people who were moaning that they wanted Zola out. Some people would be miserable if we appointed Alex Ferguson.
[quote][p][bold]andyandyandy[/bold] wrote: Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor![/p][/quote]the people moaning about this appointment are the same people who were moaning that they wanted Zola out. Some people would be miserable if we appointed Alex Ferguson. llloydwithathirdl

11:09am Wed 18 Dec 13

WFC1994 says...

I don't agree with the appointment, but the most important thing as fans is to get behind the decision and to continue our support for the players on the pitch.

(also I'd like to point out Pochettino also had a relegation when he took over at S'hampton) I appreciate different circumstances, but looking for any positives!!
I don't agree with the appointment, but the most important thing as fans is to get behind the decision and to continue our support for the players on the pitch. (also I'd like to point out Pochettino also had a relegation when he took over at S'hampton) I appreciate different circumstances, but looking for any positives!! WFC1994

11:11am Wed 18 Dec 13

Bush Hornet says...

It's a new era. Who wanted Dyche out? Not many, and we were right to question it esp given how well Dyche has done since. Who wanted Zola sacked? A minority. Not me. Who's glad that Zola resigned? Very few. But day always follows night...

It's time to back the new bloke. It's one thing arguing with the small band of keyboard warriors who are up themselves but know very little. But when an event has happened, you move on. There'll be good times. There'll be bad times. I hope the good outweighs the bad, like it has over the past 18 months.

New bloke, whoever you are, welcome. COYH
It's a new era. Who wanted Dyche out? Not many, and we were right to question it esp given how well Dyche has done since. Who wanted Zola sacked? A minority. Not me. Who's glad that Zola resigned? Very few. But day always follows night... It's time to back the new bloke. It's one thing arguing with the small band of keyboard warriors who are up themselves but know very little. But when an event has happened, you move on. There'll be good times. There'll be bad times. I hope the good outweighs the bad, like it has over the past 18 months. New bloke, whoever you are, welcome. COYH Bush Hornet

11:15am Wed 18 Dec 13

Hornets number 12 fan says...

From the Frying pan? DOH!
From the Frying pan? DOH! Hornets number 12 fan

11:17am Wed 18 Dec 13

SimmyB says...

Jurys out for me. Not sure. Seemed to be a little rushed.... why couldnt we just sit tight for a bit and have an interim manager and then think about appointing someone. :/
Jurys out for me. Not sure. Seemed to be a little rushed.... why couldnt we just sit tight for a bit and have an interim manager and then think about appointing someone. :/ SimmyB

11:17am Wed 18 Dec 13

WFCinexile says...

He took Cheivo from the lower leagues, through the divisions and built up a great reputation in the process. That part sounds familiar!! He was a disaster at Palermo, so mixed messages there.

I say give the guy a chance.
He took Cheivo from the lower leagues, through the divisions and built up a great reputation in the process. That part sounds familiar!! He was a disaster at Palermo, so mixed messages there. I say give the guy a chance. WFCinexile

11:17am Wed 18 Dec 13

SimmyB says...

He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!!
He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!! SimmyB

11:19am Wed 18 Dec 13

Colin West's mullet says...

very happy to see a quick decision made, and equally happy that this guy is only confirmed for 6 months.

I can't see him getting us into the Play-Offs, but who knows, I've been wrong before. Frankly, we've taken 4 pts from 27 - he won't have to be a magician to get some quick improvements in place.
very happy to see a quick decision made, and equally happy that this guy is only confirmed for 6 months. I can't see him getting us into the Play-Offs, but who knows, I've been wrong before. Frankly, we've taken 4 pts from 27 - he won't have to be a magician to get some quick improvements in place. Colin West's mullet

11:19am Wed 18 Dec 13

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

Wish you spoke English and had some UK support in his coaching staff but welcome to the Vic Mr Sassino and good luck ! If the results go the right way we'll all grow to love you. If they don't, we wont !
Not that you'd understand what I've just said.....
Wish you spoke English and had some UK support in his coaching staff but welcome to the Vic Mr Sassino and good luck ! If the results go the right way we'll all grow to love you. If they don't, we wont ! Not that you'd understand what I've just said..... Mickey Quinn, not so thin

11:20am Wed 18 Dec 13

@julesmckenzie says...

I don't think he looks like a bad prospect. His early managerial form wasn't top notch but more recently looks like a good safe bet.

He has experience of pulling struggling teams together (we need that), and he has had experience of larger teams with bigger egos (we need that too).

Granted he is not the figurehead that GFZ was (which is unfortunate) but he seems to be quite happy to take the reigns and have a pop.

17 years of experience says he has the credentials to go forward.

Both he and Sebastiani were investigated in the 2011 Scommessopoli scandal but as with Udinese they were both acquitted.

The English barrier is my concern, I have no problem with multinational squads but would like them to communicate in a single language on and off the pitch. I would suggest in England this should be English but I don't want bleeding hearts all over my statement.

Good luck dude. COYH...
I don't think he looks like a bad prospect. His early managerial form wasn't top notch but more recently looks like a good safe bet. He has experience of pulling struggling teams together (we need that), and he has had experience of larger teams with bigger egos (we need that too). Granted he is not the figurehead that GFZ was (which is unfortunate) but he seems to be quite happy to take the reigns and have a pop. 17 years of experience says he has the credentials to go forward. Both he and Sebastiani were investigated in the 2011 Scommessopoli scandal but as with Udinese they were both acquitted. The English barrier is my concern, I have no problem with multinational squads but would like them to communicate in a single language on and off the pitch. I would suggest in England this should be English but I don't want bleeding hearts all over my statement. Good luck dude. COYH... @julesmckenzie

11:21am Wed 18 Dec 13

Bush Hornet says...

SimmyB wrote:
He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!!
But he ISN'T Holloway.

Perhaps all the doom mongers could at least rejoice in that. Start somewhere.
[quote][p][bold]SimmyB[/bold] wrote: He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!![/p][/quote]But he ISN'T Holloway. Perhaps all the doom mongers could at least rejoice in that. Start somewhere. Bush Hornet

11:21am Wed 18 Dec 13

GloryHornetBoy says...

He wont take Deeney stropping about the dressing room, whip em into shape, there will no longer be any ego's so if u dont like it s*d off!!
He wont take Deeney stropping about the dressing room, whip em into shape, there will no longer be any ego's so if u dont like it s*d off!! GloryHornetBoy

11:21am Wed 18 Dec 13

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

WFCinexile wrote:
He took Cheivo from the lower leagues, through the divisions and built up a great reputation in the process. That part sounds familiar!! He was a disaster at Palermo, so mixed messages there.

I say give the guy a chance.
no it was another small team (varese??) that he took up to the 2nd div and nearly the first. 2 subsequent jobs in serie A, including chievo, have not been successful and ended in the sack.
[quote][p][bold]WFCinexile[/bold] wrote: He took Cheivo from the lower leagues, through the divisions and built up a great reputation in the process. That part sounds familiar!! He was a disaster at Palermo, so mixed messages there. I say give the guy a chance.[/p][/quote]no it was another small team (varese??) that he took up to the 2nd div and nearly the first. 2 subsequent jobs in serie A, including chievo, have not been successful and ended in the sack. Mickey Quinn, not so thin

11:22am Wed 18 Dec 13

G_Whiz says...

He know's what he is doing and as long as he doesn't underestimate the Championship we will be fine.

Speculation is just a waste of time everyone, so let's just get behind him and the team....

COYH!
He know's what he is doing and as long as he doesn't underestimate the Championship we will be fine. Speculation is just a waste of time everyone, so let's just get behind him and the team.... COYH! G_Whiz

11:23am Wed 18 Dec 13

GloryHornetBoy says...

Weve already been told he speaks English so forget this as being a problem.
Weve already been told he speaks English so forget this as being a problem. GloryHornetBoy

11:25am Wed 18 Dec 13

@julesmckenzie says...

MUSTOITALIA wrote:
I have not posted for a while but I read every comment on every story and I must say it saddens me to see the way people are towards each other. We come here because we share a common interest and that is Watford we are all entitled to our own opinions some think with logic and others think with emotions it doesn't make some one a "tool" "Idiot" or any other insulting comment. I believe Zola had to go but did hope he would have been supported and given a good No2 that was not the case and we are moving on. Judge as you will but if you was the Pozzo's and put millions into an investment you would hire some one you trust to succeed with a good knowledge of how to fix the problems we have and the ability to interact the Italian players and set up we already have. Championship experience im sure we would all prefer but we need a good problem solver and im sure these two are the guys to do it. Have faith all we need to do is add steel to midfield shore up the defence and get another striker I don't have championship experience but im pretty sure that would solve the problems highlighted by our current failings in the league.
Insecurity thing. They are henpecked at home so they come on here for a fight they might win.

Anyway, football...
[quote][p][bold]MUSTOITALIA[/bold] wrote: I have not posted for a while but I read every comment on every story and I must say it saddens me to see the way people are towards each other. We come here because we share a common interest and that is Watford we are all entitled to our own opinions some think with logic and others think with emotions it doesn't make some one a "tool" "Idiot" or any other insulting comment. I believe Zola had to go but did hope he would have been supported and given a good No2 that was not the case and we are moving on. Judge as you will but if you was the Pozzo's and put millions into an investment you would hire some one you trust to succeed with a good knowledge of how to fix the problems we have and the ability to interact the Italian players and set up we already have. Championship experience im sure we would all prefer but we need a good problem solver and im sure these two are the guys to do it. Have faith all we need to do is add steel to midfield shore up the defence and get another striker I don't have championship experience but im pretty sure that would solve the problems highlighted by our current failings in the league.[/p][/quote]Insecurity thing. They are henpecked at home so they come on here for a fight they might win. Anyway, football... @julesmckenzie

11:26am Wed 18 Dec 13

d.j.smith says...

Good that owners have moved quickly but, unlike Zola, the new manager has no experience of English football. That need not be a disadvantage if he had someone on his team who did know the game here. So why not appoint at least one member of the coaching staff with English experience? Instead, the whole management team look to be Italian and this simply makes no sense. Manchester City have thrived with overseas coaches, but alongside them has been David Platt; the same principle should have been recognised here and an English coach able to advise the incomers appointed. I wish the new team well and hope this works, but I can't help thinking the appointments could have been better with at least some non-Italian input.
Good that owners have moved quickly but, unlike Zola, the new manager has no experience of English football. That need not be a disadvantage if he had someone on his team who did know the game here. So why not appoint at least one member of the coaching staff with English experience? Instead, the whole management team look to be Italian and this simply makes no sense. Manchester City have thrived with overseas coaches, but alongside them has been David Platt; the same principle should have been recognised here and an English coach able to advise the incomers appointed. I wish the new team well and hope this works, but I can't help thinking the appointments could have been better with at least some non-Italian input. d.j.smith

11:38am Wed 18 Dec 13

bushey tales says...

One of the Sannino profiles available on the internet suggests he likes his players to be 'humble and hard-working.' I very much like the sound of that although they're not virtues one would necessarily level at certain members of the current squad. Some fascinating team selections await. Let's get going.
One of the Sannino profiles available on the internet suggests he likes his players to be 'humble and hard-working.' I very much like the sound of that although they're not virtues one would necessarily level at certain members of the current squad. Some fascinating team selections await. Let's get going. bushey tales

11:39am Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

New coach, three new assistants, will have to house them in the YMCA until the new East stand is built.
New coach, three new assistants, will have to house them in the YMCA until the new East stand is built. Boosey

11:39am Wed 18 Dec 13

bristol hornet says...

Bad decision!

We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship!

Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season!
Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season! bristol hornet

11:40am Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

Good luck gentlemen and welcome to our club.
Good luck gentlemen and welcome to our club. Boosey

11:43am Wed 18 Dec 13

lockerbiehornet says...

I guess we'll have to wait and see what he's like but surely if he's such a good defensive coach, the question I'd be asking, is why didn't they bring him in to help GFZ as this was clearly the area we were struggling in?
I guess we'll have to wait and see what he's like but surely if he's such a good defensive coach, the question I'd be asking, is why didn't they bring him in to help GFZ as this was clearly the area we were struggling in? lockerbiehornet

11:45am Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

And if he can't speak English, here is a translation for some of our players, take your poncey tights and gloves off, roll your sleeves up and get stuck in for the new boss.
And if he can't speak English, here is a translation for some of our players, take your poncey tights and gloves off, roll your sleeves up and get stuck in for the new boss. Boosey

11:47am Wed 18 Dec 13

parkhouse hornet says...

I'm not a clapper, but for f*** sake, the bloke hasn't got his coat on the peg yet, and there are people calling for his shiny head.
Let's get behind the guy and show him what our club is about. We like to have a moan and winge, but at the end of the day, we love our club and this guy has been employed to take it onward and upwards to better days.
Shall we at least give him a chance!!!!
I'm not a clapper, but for f*** sake, the bloke hasn't got his coat on the peg yet, and there are people calling for his shiny head. Let's get behind the guy and show him what our club is about. We like to have a moan and winge, but at the end of the day, we love our club and this guy has been employed to take it onward and upwards to better days. Shall we at least give him a chance!!!! parkhouse hornet

11:50am Wed 18 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

Will some of you just give this bloke a chance? He hasn't been hee 2 mins and some people have already starting spouting rubbish.

This season I will genuinely be happy with mid-table. We're currrently heading downwards, and quickly, so just need someone in to steady things and get some sort of coherency in the team.

It's easy to know him as he's unknown, foreign, etc, but sometimes these things can work out for the best.

At the moment, none of us know what's going to happen. Give him some time then we can voice our opinions.

HC
Will some of you just give this bloke a chance? He hasn't been hee 2 mins and some people have already starting spouting rubbish. This season I will genuinely be happy with mid-table. We're currrently heading downwards, and quickly, so just need someone in to steady things and get some sort of coherency in the team. It's easy to know him as he's unknown, foreign, etc, but sometimes these things can work out for the best. At the moment, none of us know what's going to happen. Give him some time then we can voice our opinions. HC Hornet Cornet

11:51am Wed 18 Dec 13

Harry's Bar says...

Good luck Sannino, and I think you're going to need some, certainly more than Zola had this season. Ultimately whether he succeeds will come down to Nani. Zola didn't help himself with the changes he made in the Summer but in the final analysis it was Nani's mistakes that did for Zola.
Good luck Sannino, and I think you're going to need some, certainly more than Zola had this season. Ultimately whether he succeeds will come down to Nani. Zola didn't help himself with the changes he made in the Summer but in the final analysis it was Nani's mistakes that did for Zola. Harry's Bar

11:54am Wed 18 Dec 13

BigBadVirgil says...

So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab
ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England.

He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.
So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England. He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager. BigBadVirgil

11:55am Wed 18 Dec 13

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season!
I love all these phrases that mean nothing!! "rigours of the championship!"
What does that actually mean?
The Championship is a league, the best teams that are capable and do the best will finish top and get out of the league, the same as any other league in this country and any other.
I fully support and trust the Pozzos and am fully behind him. We need some points!
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season![/p][/quote]I love all these phrases that mean nothing!! "rigours of the championship!" What does that actually mean? The Championship is a league, the best teams that are capable and do the best will finish top and get out of the league, the same as any other league in this country and any other. I fully support and trust the Pozzos and am fully behind him. We need some points! Ronny oh Ronny Ronny

11:58am Wed 18 Dec 13

HemelHornet says...

2 Points:

1 - it is unacceptable to appoint a manager in the Championship or any English league for that matter who can not speak English

2 - If you appoint a manager who has no championship experience it is vital that you appoint a no.2 who does

The Pozzo's have failed on both points - I'm Not a happy bunny
2 Points: 1 - it is unacceptable to appoint a manager in the Championship or any English league for that matter who can not speak English 2 - If you appoint a manager who has no championship experience it is vital that you appoint a no.2 who does The Pozzo's have failed on both points - I'm Not a happy bunny HemelHornet

11:59am Wed 18 Dec 13

AngelHornet says...

thepriceisnickywrigh
t
wrote:
A quick appointment which is always a positive. Can't say I am overly thrilled he can't speak English, but then half our squad is Italian/Spanish so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. I just hope he sticks with some of the young English talent we have like Bond, Hoban, Murray, and they don't get frozen out or disillusioned. Onwards and Upwards.
He'll have to have a quota of British players in his squad.

I can't remember exactly how many
[quote][p][bold]thepriceisnickywrigh t[/bold] wrote: A quick appointment which is always a positive. Can't say I am overly thrilled he can't speak English, but then half our squad is Italian/Spanish so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. I just hope he sticks with some of the young English talent we have like Bond, Hoban, Murray, and they don't get frozen out or disillusioned. Onwards and Upwards.[/p][/quote]He'll have to have a quota of British players in his squad. I can't remember exactly how many AngelHornet

12:05pm Wed 18 Dec 13

justahornetfan says...

It's human nature to want to go with what you know and i would have liked to see Di Matteo in with a shout after he brought about an amazing team spirit at Chelsea to win the champions league, but as someone pointed out, we have had a few managers who no one had heard of and they did pretty well for us.
Graham Taylor came to us with a good management record with Lincoln in the old 4th division but nothing in higher leagues, so I'm saying, let's give the new guys our support because we might just be pleasantly surprised and if not then someone else will be brought in.
Lets see what these guys bring to the table before we judge them and they also have a bit of time and a few games before the transfer window to assess the players already here.
Okay in a perfect world Sir Alex would come out of retirement and save Watford (in my dreams maybe)
However, I looked up Giuseppe Sannino on Wikepedia and didn't get too excited with this guy but he and his assistants could do a good job for us and we won't know until they give it a go and we give them a fair go too.
I know many people wanted a British manager or someone with good championship experience but we are owned by Italians so we shouldn't be surprised with what we get and it's still a long way to go to May, COYH
It's human nature to want to go with what you know and i would have liked to see Di Matteo in with a shout after he brought about an amazing team spirit at Chelsea to win the champions league, but as someone pointed out, we have had a few managers who no one had heard of and they did pretty well for us. Graham Taylor came to us with a good management record with Lincoln in the old 4th division but nothing in higher leagues, so I'm saying, let's give the new guys our support because we might just be pleasantly surprised and if not then someone else will be brought in. Lets see what these guys bring to the table before we judge them and they also have a bit of time and a few games before the transfer window to assess the players already here. Okay in a perfect world Sir Alex would come out of retirement and save Watford (in my dreams maybe) However, I looked up Giuseppe Sannino on Wikepedia and didn't get too excited with this guy but he and his assistants could do a good job for us and we won't know until they give it a go and we give them a fair go too. I know many people wanted a British manager or someone with good championship experience but we are owned by Italians so we shouldn't be surprised with what we get and it's still a long way to go to May, COYH justahornetfan

12:05pm Wed 18 Dec 13

DuffmanWFC says...

I can't say I'm happy about this appointment but what I can say is I'll give the new management team my support and at least a chance!
Some peeps on here are are slating him and the owners before he's even taken his first game!!!
Lets all get behind them!
I can't say I'm happy about this appointment but what I can say is I'll give the new management team my support and at least a chance! Some peeps on here are are slating him and the owners before he's even taken his first game!!! Lets all get behind them! DuffmanWFC

12:06pm Wed 18 Dec 13

OliverF1976 says...

I think people need reminding that our owners are the Pozzo family not some new arab owner with no football experience. If we cannot trust the Pozzo's to look after our football club then we can trust nobody. This is not a hobby for some mega wealthy oil baron who knows absolutely nothing about football. This is a serious business venture for them that cannot fail. They will bring us success whether it is in 6 months or 5 years.

I haven't read anywhere reliable that Sannino cannot speak English so won't make any comments on that and even if he doesn't I am not overly concerned. Look at Pocchetino at Southampton.

I am sad that it didn't work out for Zola but we must be realistic things were not happening this season and a change was needed of some sorts. Reading between the lines it was Zola's decision to change his staff this season and it was a huge mistake.

I am happy to see a quick appointment made without having to listen to the same old names being chucked about. They knew who they wanted and they got him. Good Luck Giuseppe and Welcome To Watford!
I think people need reminding that our owners are the Pozzo family not some new arab owner with no football experience. If we cannot trust the Pozzo's to look after our football club then we can trust nobody. This is not a hobby for some mega wealthy oil baron who knows absolutely nothing about football. This is a serious business venture for them that cannot fail. They will bring us success whether it is in 6 months or 5 years. I haven't read anywhere reliable that Sannino cannot speak English so won't make any comments on that and even if he doesn't I am not overly concerned. Look at Pocchetino at Southampton. I am sad that it didn't work out for Zola but we must be realistic things were not happening this season and a change was needed of some sorts. Reading between the lines it was Zola's decision to change his staff this season and it was a huge mistake. I am happy to see a quick appointment made without having to listen to the same old names being chucked about. They knew who they wanted and they got him. Good Luck Giuseppe and Welcome To Watford! OliverF1976

12:06pm Wed 18 Dec 13

bristol hornet says...

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season!
I love all these phrases that mean nothing!! "rigours of the championship!"
What does that actually mean?
The Championship is a league, the best teams that are capable and do the best will finish top and get out of the league, the same as any other league in this country and any other.
I fully support and trust the Pozzos and am fully behind him. We need some points!
I have stated it before, but I will mention it again just for you:

Only ONE foreign manager has EVER taken a Championship club into the Premiership, namely Roberto De Matteo.

This is my point my friend!!

These foreigners have absolutely no idea how tough, challenging, rigourous, and demanding this second tier is. It is like no other leage or division in Europe.

It will take the new bloke at least 3 months to find this out, especially not speaking English (allegedly) and having no British contacts. So expect a relegation battle or take your pram and toys away now!
[quote][p][bold]Ronny oh Ronny Ronny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season![/p][/quote]I love all these phrases that mean nothing!! "rigours of the championship!" What does that actually mean? The Championship is a league, the best teams that are capable and do the best will finish top and get out of the league, the same as any other league in this country and any other. I fully support and trust the Pozzos and am fully behind him. We need some points![/p][/quote]I have stated it before, but I will mention it again just for you: Only ONE foreign manager has EVER taken a Championship club into the Premiership, namely Roberto De Matteo. This is my point my friend!! These foreigners have absolutely no idea how tough, challenging, rigourous, and demanding this second tier is. It is like no other leage or division in Europe. It will take the new bloke at least 3 months to find this out, especially not speaking English (allegedly) and having no British contacts. So expect a relegation battle or take your pram and toys away now! bristol hornet

12:07pm Wed 18 Dec 13

coldplay says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Bad decision!

We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship!

Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season!
Just don't agree with a British manager and knowledge of the Championship being pre-requisites. Strong leadership, excellent coaching and the ability to manage the dressing room and instil discipline, are the key attributes I would hope the new coach and his team bring to the club. Bearing in mind the track record and experience of the owners in the football world I believe they would have done their homework and matched the new man to the situation we need sorted. Not sure any of us know too much about Giuseppe but he deserves our full support, he's our new gaffer and predictions of our demise, before he's even started, are simply wrong and just not warranted, Give the man a chance and get behind him and the team.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season![/p][/quote]Just don't agree with a British manager and knowledge of the Championship being pre-requisites. Strong leadership, excellent coaching and the ability to manage the dressing room and instil discipline, are the key attributes I would hope the new coach and his team bring to the club. Bearing in mind the track record and experience of the owners in the football world I believe they would have done their homework and matched the new man to the situation we need sorted. Not sure any of us know too much about Giuseppe but he deserves our full support, he's our new gaffer and predictions of our demise, before he's even started, are simply wrong and just not warranted, Give the man a chance and get behind him and the team. coldplay

12:09pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Bush Hornet says...

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season!
I love all these phrases that mean nothing!! "rigours of the championship!"
What does that actually mean?
The Championship is a league, the best teams that are capable and do the best will finish top and get out of the league, the same as any other league in this country and any other.
I fully support and trust the Pozzos and am fully behind him. We need some points!
He'll cope with the 'rigours of the championship'. He's mean. He looks like a Bond villain.
[quote][p][bold]Ronny oh Ronny Ronny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season![/p][/quote]I love all these phrases that mean nothing!! "rigours of the championship!" What does that actually mean? The Championship is a league, the best teams that are capable and do the best will finish top and get out of the league, the same as any other league in this country and any other. I fully support and trust the Pozzos and am fully behind him. We need some points![/p][/quote]He'll cope with the 'rigours of the championship'. He's mean. He looks like a Bond villain. Bush Hornet

12:10pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SamTheEagle says...

The Pozzo's have invested a lot of money in the club and I doubt they have made this appointment without considering all the options. It may seem like a hurried decision but, let's be honest, the team have under performed for sometime now. My guess is Sannino was being lined up a few weeks ago and, had GFZ turned the clubs fortunes around, would never have been appointed. Okay, he may not have been everyone's first choice – and whoever was appointed would have upset some – but we should at least give him a chance.
The Pozzo's have invested a lot of money in the club and I doubt they have made this appointment without considering all the options. It may seem like a hurried decision but, let's be honest, the team have under performed for sometime now. My guess is Sannino was being lined up a few weeks ago and, had GFZ turned the clubs fortunes around, would never have been appointed. Okay, he may not have been everyone's first choice – and whoever was appointed would have upset some – but we should at least give him a chance. SamTheEagle

12:15pm Wed 18 Dec 13

bushey tales says...

Will somebody who knows the truth please reveal whether this guy speaks passable English? I've read on various WO threads within the last hour that he definitely does - and that he definitely doesn't. It would be useful to know which is true.......but please don't guess. That's really not helpful.
Will somebody who knows the truth please reveal whether this guy speaks passable English? I've read on various WO threads within the last hour that he definitely does - and that he definitely doesn't. It would be useful to know which is true.......but please don't guess. That's really not helpful. bushey tales

12:17pm Wed 18 Dec 13

4boys says...

Why do a few uneducated people on here keep saying he can't speak English, look up your facts, he can, any by the look of some of the spelling and grammar on here he can probably read and write better than you too!
Great to get someone in so soon as its important to get settled with a busy schedule coming up.
Get behind him and his staff and our players instead of moaning and groaning.
Why do a few uneducated people on here keep saying he can't speak English, look up your facts, he can, any by the look of some of the spelling and grammar on here he can probably read and write better than you too! Great to get someone in so soon as its important to get settled with a busy schedule coming up. Get behind him and his staff and our players instead of moaning and groaning. 4boys

12:18pm Wed 18 Dec 13

demerit says...

andyandyandy wrote:
Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor!
Have you got nothing better to do with your time?
[quote][p][bold]andyandyandy[/bold] wrote: Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor![/p][/quote]Have you got nothing better to do with your time? demerit

12:19pm Wed 18 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

BigBadVirgil wrote:
So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab

ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England.

He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.
On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?!
[quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England. He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.[/p][/quote]On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?! mellow yellow

12:19pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

At least he's in place before the Jan window so can preside over who comes in, who goes out, though he doesn't have too much time to form his own view of the squad. Just hope he can tighten the defence and get more end product up front. We played well vs SW, as many have said, but had only 2(?) on target efforts in the match.
At least he's in place before the Jan window so can preside over who comes in, who goes out, though he doesn't have too much time to form his own view of the squad. Just hope he can tighten the defence and get more end product up front. We played well vs SW, as many have said, but had only 2(?) on target efforts in the match. Mickey Quinn, not so thin

12:20pm Wed 18 Dec 13

GloryHornetBoy says...

He speaks fluent English!!
He speaks fluent English!! GloryHornetBoy

12:20pm Wed 18 Dec 13

demerit says...

llloydwithathirdl wrote:
andyandyandy wrote:
Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor!
the people moaning about this appointment are the same people who were moaning that they wanted Zola out. Some people would be miserable if we appointed Alex Ferguson.
I'm not moaning.
[quote][p][bold]llloydwithathirdl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyandyandy[/bold] wrote: Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor![/p][/quote]the people moaning about this appointment are the same people who were moaning that they wanted Zola out. Some people would be miserable if we appointed Alex Ferguson.[/p][/quote]I'm not moaning. demerit

12:21pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

bushey tales wrote:
Will somebody who knows the truth please reveal whether this guy speaks passable English? I've read on various WO threads within the last hour that he definitely does - and that he definitely doesn't. It would be useful to know which is true.......but please don't guess. That's really not helpful.
...and more to the point, can his 3 coaches speak English ??
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: Will somebody who knows the truth please reveal whether this guy speaks passable English? I've read on various WO threads within the last hour that he definitely does - and that he definitely doesn't. It would be useful to know which is true.......but please don't guess. That's really not helpful.[/p][/quote]...and more to the point, can his 3 coaches speak English ?? Mickey Quinn, not so thin

12:21pm Wed 18 Dec 13

demerit says...

coldplay wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Bad decision!

We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship!

Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season!
Just don't agree with a British manager and knowledge of the Championship being pre-requisites. Strong leadership, excellent coaching and the ability to manage the dressing room and instil discipline, are the key attributes I would hope the new coach and his team bring to the club. Bearing in mind the track record and experience of the owners in the football world I believe they would have done their homework and matched the new man to the situation we need sorted. Not sure any of us know too much about Giuseppe but he deserves our full support, he's our new gaffer and predictions of our demise, before he's even started, are simply wrong and just not warranted, Give the man a chance and get behind him and the team.
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]coldplay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season![/p][/quote]Just don't agree with a British manager and knowledge of the Championship being pre-requisites. Strong leadership, excellent coaching and the ability to manage the dressing room and instil discipline, are the key attributes I would hope the new coach and his team bring to the club. Bearing in mind the track record and experience of the owners in the football world I believe they would have done their homework and matched the new man to the situation we need sorted. Not sure any of us know too much about Giuseppe but he deserves our full support, he's our new gaffer and predictions of our demise, before he's even started, are simply wrong and just not warranted, Give the man a chance and get behind him and the team.[/p][/quote]Spot on. demerit

12:24pm Wed 18 Dec 13

demerit says...

mellow yellow wrote:
BigBadVirgil wrote:
So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab


ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England.

He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.
On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?!
It's easier to be a doubter. It's a way of hedging your bets.
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England. He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.[/p][/quote]On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?![/p][/quote]It's easier to be a doubter. It's a way of hedging your bets. demerit

12:24pm Wed 18 Dec 13

HorshamHornet says...

HOORAY...... Its not Hollowhead!!!!
HOORAY...... Its not Hollowhead!!!! HorshamHornet

12:25pm Wed 18 Dec 13

DuffmanWFC says...

I don't think that we have to have a British manager to get promoted and that a foreign gaffa would fail.... That's rubbish!
The reason there has not been floods of foreign managers that have been promoted from the championship is because foreign managers never previously considered the championship as a viable job!
It's only recently with better funding, bigger clubs and better player attraction that the championship has become a good job option to foreign coaches!
We must give the new man a chance and get behind him!
You can be the best tactician in the world but if you can't get the best out of your players week in week out you won't get anything!
Hopefully the new coach and his team can turn things round and get us back into playoff contention!
I don't think that we have to have a British manager to get promoted and that a foreign gaffa would fail.... That's rubbish! The reason there has not been floods of foreign managers that have been promoted from the championship is because foreign managers never previously considered the championship as a viable job! It's only recently with better funding, bigger clubs and better player attraction that the championship has become a good job option to foreign coaches! We must give the new man a chance and get behind him! You can be the best tactician in the world but if you can't get the best out of your players week in week out you won't get anything! Hopefully the new coach and his team can turn things round and get us back into playoff contention! DuffmanWFC

12:25pm Wed 18 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

GloryHornetBoy wrote:
He speaks fluent English!!
As opposed to some on here who speak effluent English.
[quote][p][bold]GloryHornetBoy[/bold] wrote: He speaks fluent English!![/p][/quote]As opposed to some on here who speak effluent English. mellow yellow

12:29pm Wed 18 Dec 13

demerit says...

In English, his name means...

Heal
Cure
Put right
Restore

That's good isn't it?
In English, his name means... Heal Cure Put right Restore That's good isn't it? demerit

12:30pm Wed 18 Dec 13

InterludeWFC says...

I can't believe the prejudices of some people.

A manager's nationality, or indeed his lack of experience in the English game, is no indication as to how successful he will be - one only has to look at Mauricio Pochettino at Southampton or Michael Laudrup at Swansea to realise this. What experience of English football did Arsene Wenger have before coming to Arsenal?

Managerial success is born out of the individual's personality - his character, his techniques, his approach, his footballing knowledge, and not from his nationality.
I can't believe the prejudices of some people. A manager's nationality, or indeed his lack of experience in the English game, is no indication as to how successful he will be - one only has to look at Mauricio Pochettino at Southampton or Michael Laudrup at Swansea to realise this. What experience of English football did Arsene Wenger have before coming to Arsenal? Managerial success is born out of the individual's personality - his character, his techniques, his approach, his footballing knowledge, and not from his nationality. InterludeWFC

12:37pm Wed 18 Dec 13

grinns67 says...

Oh dear div 1 here we come, his record is crap he speaks hardly any English RIP Watford fc
Oh dear div 1 here we come, his record is crap he speaks hardly any English RIP Watford fc grinns67

12:40pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SimmyB says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
SimmyB wrote:
He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!!
But he ISN'T Holloway.

Perhaps all the doom mongers could at least rejoice in that. Start somewhere.
It was a joke. Trying to be a little lighthearted. Yes I'm unsure but for the club I support we have no option but to give him and his people a go.
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimmyB[/bold] wrote: He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!![/p][/quote]But he ISN'T Holloway. Perhaps all the doom mongers could at least rejoice in that. Start somewhere.[/p][/quote]It was a joke. Trying to be a little lighthearted. Yes I'm unsure but for the club I support we have no option but to give him and his people a go. SimmyB

12:42pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Goldenboy1960 says...

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12:43pm Wed 18 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

grinns67 wrote:
Oh dear div 1 here we come, his record is crap he speaks hardly any English RIP Watford fc
Perhaps it is you who is the div 1?
[quote][p][bold]grinns67[/bold] wrote: Oh dear div 1 here we come, his record is crap he speaks hardly any English RIP Watford fc[/p][/quote]Perhaps it is you who is the div 1? mellow yellow

12:44pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Watforce says...

Sannino whaooo,
Sannino whaoooooooooooooooo,

His head is so shiny,
He comes from Italy.
Alternatively:
He's completely unknown by me

He's the Watford manager now, fact!
Support him, support the team. COYH
Sannino whaooo, Sannino whaoooooooooooooooo, His head is so shiny, He comes from Italy. Alternatively: He's completely unknown by me He's the Watford manager now, fact! Support him, support the team. COYH Watforce

12:48pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SAHornet says...

andyandyandy wrote:
Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor!
Yeah, yeah or Ronald McDonald etc etc. YAWN !
[quote][p][bold]andyandyandy[/bold] wrote: Very worried about this appointment and the people that cant see why are the same clappers that would be thrilled if we appointed Barbara Windsor![/p][/quote]Yeah, yeah or Ronald McDonald etc etc. YAWN ! SAHornet

12:48pm Wed 18 Dec 13

MrMalus says...

Welcome to Watford Mr Sannino

Give the guy a chance!!
Welcome to Watford Mr Sannino Give the guy a chance!! MrMalus

12:48pm Wed 18 Dec 13

abbotshornet says...

steveherts wrote:
He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens.
Let's hope he turns out to be a very good defensive coach, we may not see the exciting stuff we have been used to recently but I for one will enjoy not watching us give away silly and costly goals. Let's all get behind the new coach, does that make me a "happy clapper" what ever that is? COYGB's
[quote][p][bold]steveherts[/bold] wrote: He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens.[/p][/quote]Let's hope he turns out to be a very good defensive coach, we may not see the exciting stuff we have been used to recently but I for one will enjoy not watching us give away silly and costly goals. Let's all get behind the new coach, does that make me a "happy clapper" what ever that is? COYGB's abbotshornet

12:49pm Wed 18 Dec 13

surrid says...

All - Avid Watford fan just dont have money to go to games and live outside watford and no longer have season ticket.

I apperciate everyones responses on here as we have to have different views otherwise we would all be the same. Personally i think this is a clever short term appointment to see if he can get the best out of players he probably knows a few of them and get a run going into the play offs. There has been something wrong with tactics in last 3 months, no team loses 3 nil at home to Yeovil and 4 straight home defeats with the players we have on offfer, admittedely i dont think they all cut the gravy. The first thing i would do is send loanes back from West Brom and Chelsea and Man and start to look at what we have we dont need others cast offs we have enough in what we have. Lets see a few different people given a chance and a few different combinations. This guy will do this and therefore we wont go down and may get playoffs if we dont then at least Pozzos know what we have at club to invest next summer with a new manager to start a challenge. Thats their plan as thats how Italians think....
All - Avid Watford fan just dont have money to go to games and live outside watford and no longer have season ticket. I apperciate everyones responses on here as we have to have different views otherwise we would all be the same. Personally i think this is a clever short term appointment to see if he can get the best out of players he probably knows a few of them and get a run going into the play offs. There has been something wrong with tactics in last 3 months, no team loses 3 nil at home to Yeovil and 4 straight home defeats with the players we have on offfer, admittedely i dont think they all cut the gravy. The first thing i would do is send loanes back from West Brom and Chelsea and Man and start to look at what we have we dont need others cast offs we have enough in what we have. Lets see a few different people given a chance and a few different combinations. This guy will do this and therefore we wont go down and may get playoffs if we dont then at least Pozzos know what we have at club to invest next summer with a new manager to start a challenge. Thats their plan as thats how Italians think.... surrid

12:57pm Wed 18 Dec 13

lincoln horn says...

Good luck Sannino, yeah it could go either way but I'm still excited by change. COYH
Good luck Sannino, yeah it could go either way but I'm still excited by change. COYH lincoln horn

12:59pm Wed 18 Dec 13

endean2 says...

glad to see that we have rolled out the typical WARM WATFORD WELCOME
I am amazed at the negative attitude by so many of our so called fans.

If the BBC were handing out awards last Sunday for football fans support
I don't think many would come Watfords way.
give the man a chance please
glad to see that we have rolled out the typical WARM WATFORD WELCOME I am amazed at the negative attitude by so many of our so called fans. If the BBC were handing out awards last Sunday for football fans support I don't think many would come Watfords way. give the man a chance please endean2

1:01pm Wed 18 Dec 13

abbotshornet says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season!
Bristol Hornet, are you a mate of Hollowhead?
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season![/p][/quote]Bristol Hornet, are you a mate of Hollowhead? abbotshornet

1:05pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Poppet Bear says...

Where have all the "in the Pozzo's we trust" mob gone ????
Where have all the "in the Pozzo's we trust" mob gone ???? Poppet Bear

1:07pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SMP says...

Personal opinion will always cause debate ... that's why we're all entitled to one.

Whether we agree or disagree, the situation is as it is .. as with all walks of life we have to move on. Sannino needs the full backing of all true, loyal Watford supporters otherwise he is on a hiding to nothing before he starts. However, in order for him to have the crowds full support, he will need the professional compere skills of Richard Short at his first home fixture on Boxing Day and not the gentleman who took hold of the reins last Saturday .. a positive atmosphere must be generated.
Personal opinion will always cause debate ... that's why we're all entitled to one. Whether we agree or disagree, the situation is as it is .. as with all walks of life we have to move on. Sannino needs the full backing of all true, loyal Watford supporters otherwise he is on a hiding to nothing before he starts. However, in order for him to have the crowds full support, he will need the professional compere skills of Richard Short at his first home fixture on Boxing Day and not the gentleman who took hold of the reins last Saturday .. a positive atmosphere must be generated. SMP

1:08pm Wed 18 Dec 13

soulfulhornet says...

Truth be told, I am somewhat underwhelmed by the appointment, but then again I was equally underwhelmed by Lewington, Boothroyd, Rodgers, Malky and Sean Dyche's appointments. Prior to Zola, the last time I was excited by a managerial appointment was Vialli and look how that turned out!

I am somewhat concerned that the new manager has no experience of the Championship and English football and there may be a language problem. Apart from di Matteo and Zola last season, the record of foreign managers in this division is not good - remember Berg at Blackburn and the guy at Wolves last term, whose name escapes me.

However every situation is unique and the Pozzos know what there are doing. There must be a good reason behind this appointment. They will not wish us to be in Division 1 or they will lose pots of money - for a start the new stand will be a waste and sponsorship will be under threat!

I think given the speed of the appointment this was on the cards if Zola went. Another poster stated on one thread that Zola offered to resign after the Yeovil game. That may be so and Nani/ Duxbury and/ or Gino Pozzo suggested to Zola that he give it another few games - in reality 3, and then revisit that decision. Also, sadly Zola has recently had the demeanour of a condemned man. Who knows the truth and this is speculation, now history and irrelevant!

In the interim the back-up of Sannino as a manager was put in place if Zola left. The Pozzos are nothing if not pragmatic and decisive. They would not wish to have an extended inter-regnum like Palace recently. We couldn't afford that.

Sonnino is no household name and may not be inspirational like Zola, but lets give him a chance. After all who did we expect ? (Di Matteo would be out of our price range given his £100k+ per week he still gets for not managing Chelsea).

So onwards and hopefully upwards, who's for 3 points at Portman Road!
COYH.
Truth be told, I am somewhat underwhelmed by the appointment, but then again I was equally underwhelmed by Lewington, Boothroyd, Rodgers, Malky and Sean Dyche's appointments. Prior to Zola, the last time I was excited by a managerial appointment was Vialli and look how that turned out! I am somewhat concerned that the new manager has no experience of the Championship and English football and there may be a language problem. Apart from di Matteo and Zola last season, the record of foreign managers in this division is not good - remember Berg at Blackburn and the guy at Wolves last term, whose name escapes me. However every situation is unique and the Pozzos know what there are doing. There must be a good reason behind this appointment. They will not wish us to be in Division 1 or they will lose pots of money - for a start the new stand will be a waste and sponsorship will be under threat! I think given the speed of the appointment this was on the cards if Zola went. Another poster stated on one thread that Zola offered to resign after the Yeovil game. That may be so and Nani/ Duxbury and/ or Gino Pozzo suggested to Zola that he give it another few games - in reality 3, and then revisit that decision. Also, sadly Zola has recently had the demeanour of a condemned man. Who knows the truth and this is speculation, now history and irrelevant! In the interim the back-up of Sannino as a manager was put in place if Zola left. The Pozzos are nothing if not pragmatic and decisive. They would not wish to have an extended inter-regnum like Palace recently. We couldn't afford that. Sonnino is no household name and may not be inspirational like Zola, but lets give him a chance. After all who did we expect ? (Di Matteo would be out of our price range given his £100k+ per week he still gets for not managing Chelsea). So onwards and hopefully upwards, who's for 3 points at Portman Road! COYH. soulfulhornet

1:08pm Wed 18 Dec 13

berkshire orn says...

Welcome Mr Sannino here we go uuuuuoooorrrnnnssss
Welcome Mr Sannino here we go uuuuuoooorrrnnnssss berkshire orn

1:12pm Wed 18 Dec 13

BigBadVirgil says...

demerit wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
BigBadVirgil wrote:
So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab



ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England.

He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.
On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?!
It's easier to be a doubter. It's a way of hedging your bets.
On the basis that he is regarded as being one of the best goalkeeping coaches in the UK.

I am basking in the glory of nothing. If you ask the opinions of any goalkeepers that have gone through the club they will share my opinion.

My point is we are not an experiment, we are a football club supposedly challenging for promotion, or dare I say it, automatic promotion. This amount of change at Christmas is surely going to have an impact on the squad.

This website is a forum to share opinions, you are welcome to yours as I am welcome to mine. I am not here to preach, just because I do not share the same opinion as you, does not make me wrong.
[quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England. He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.[/p][/quote]On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?![/p][/quote]It's easier to be a doubter. It's a way of hedging your bets.[/p][/quote]On the basis that he is regarded as being one of the best goalkeeping coaches in the UK. I am basking in the glory of nothing. If you ask the opinions of any goalkeepers that have gone through the club they will share my opinion. My point is we are not an experiment, we are a football club supposedly challenging for promotion, or dare I say it, automatic promotion. This amount of change at Christmas is surely going to have an impact on the squad. This website is a forum to share opinions, you are welcome to yours as I am welcome to mine. I am not here to preach, just because I do not share the same opinion as you, does not make me wrong. BigBadVirgil

1:22pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Bush Hornet says...

SimmyB wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
SimmyB wrote:
He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!!
But he ISN'T Holloway.

Perhaps all the doom mongers could at least rejoice in that. Start somewhere.
It was a joke. Trying to be a little lighthearted. Yes I'm unsure but for the club I support we have no option but to give him and his people a go.
No one's saying you're a doom monger. Anyway he's better looking than KP and Gollum.
[quote][p][bold]SimmyB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimmyB[/bold] wrote: He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!![/p][/quote]But he ISN'T Holloway. Perhaps all the doom mongers could at least rejoice in that. Start somewhere.[/p][/quote]It was a joke. Trying to be a little lighthearted. Yes I'm unsure but for the club I support we have no option but to give him and his people a go.[/p][/quote]No one's saying you're a doom monger. Anyway he's better looking than KP and Gollum. Bush Hornet

1:26pm Wed 18 Dec 13

demerit says...

BigBadVirgil wrote:
demerit wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
BigBadVirgil wrote:
So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab




ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England.

He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.
On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?!
It's easier to be a doubter. It's a way of hedging your bets.
On the basis that he is regarded as being one of the best goalkeeping coaches in the UK.

I am basking in the glory of nothing. If you ask the opinions of any goalkeepers that have gone through the club they will share my opinion.

My point is we are not an experiment, we are a football club supposedly challenging for promotion, or dare I say it, automatic promotion. This amount of change at Christmas is surely going to have an impact on the squad.

This website is a forum to share opinions, you are welcome to yours as I am welcome to mine. I am not here to preach, just because I do not share the same opinion as you, does not make me wrong.
A bit of the "glass half empty" but I totally agree with your last para.
[quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England. He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.[/p][/quote]On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?![/p][/quote]It's easier to be a doubter. It's a way of hedging your bets.[/p][/quote]On the basis that he is regarded as being one of the best goalkeeping coaches in the UK. I am basking in the glory of nothing. If you ask the opinions of any goalkeepers that have gone through the club they will share my opinion. My point is we are not an experiment, we are a football club supposedly challenging for promotion, or dare I say it, automatic promotion. This amount of change at Christmas is surely going to have an impact on the squad. This website is a forum to share opinions, you are welcome to yours as I am welcome to mine. I am not here to preach, just because I do not share the same opinion as you, does not make me wrong.[/p][/quote]A bit of the "glass half empty" but I totally agree with your last para. demerit

1:27pm Wed 18 Dec 13

1978Smurf says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Ronny oh Ronny Ronny wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season!
I love all these phrases that mean nothing!! "rigours of the championship!"
What does that actually mean?
The Championship is a league, the best teams that are capable and do the best will finish top and get out of the league, the same as any other league in this country and any other.
I fully support and trust the Pozzos and am fully behind him. We need some points!
I have stated it before, but I will mention it again just for you:

Only ONE foreign manager has EVER taken a Championship club into the Premiership, namely Roberto De Matteo.

This is my point my friend!!

These foreigners have absolutely no idea how tough, challenging, rigourous, and demanding this second tier is. It is like no other leage or division in Europe.

It will take the new bloke at least 3 months to find this out, especially not speaking English (allegedly) and having no British contacts. So expect a relegation battle or take your pram and toys away now!
I'm pretty sure Jean Tigana is foreign, unless France is now part of Britain, and he took Fulham into the Premiership....
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ronny oh Ronny Ronny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Bad decision! We needed a British manager who knows all about the rigours of the Championship! Can see a relegation battle now until the end of the season![/p][/quote]I love all these phrases that mean nothing!! "rigours of the championship!" What does that actually mean? The Championship is a league, the best teams that are capable and do the best will finish top and get out of the league, the same as any other league in this country and any other. I fully support and trust the Pozzos and am fully behind him. We need some points![/p][/quote]I have stated it before, but I will mention it again just for you: Only ONE foreign manager has EVER taken a Championship club into the Premiership, namely Roberto De Matteo. This is my point my friend!! These foreigners have absolutely no idea how tough, challenging, rigourous, and demanding this second tier is. It is like no other leage or division in Europe. It will take the new bloke at least 3 months to find this out, especially not speaking English (allegedly) and having no British contacts. So expect a relegation battle or take your pram and toys away now![/p][/quote]I'm pretty sure Jean Tigana is foreign, unless France is now part of Britain, and he took Fulham into the Premiership.... 1978Smurf

1:33pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Watfordwes says...

When the pozzos said they had a plan in place to cover the £900000 owed to LNOC over the bassini affair do you think this is it???

I would imagine this whole coaching team relocating will still earn far less than zola alone.
When the pozzos said they had a plan in place to cover the £900000 owed to LNOC over the bassini affair do you think this is it??? I would imagine this whole coaching team relocating will still earn far less than zola alone. Watfordwes

1:45pm Wed 18 Dec 13

pizinloc says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Will some of you just give this bloke a chance? He hasn't been hee 2 mins and some people have already starting spouting rubbish. This season I will genuinely be happy with mid-table. We're currrently heading downwards, and quickly, so just need someone in to steady things and get some sort of coherency in the team. It's easy to know him as he's unknown, foreign, etc, but sometimes these things can work out for the best. At the moment, none of us know what's going to happen. Give him some time then we can voice our opinions. HC
You remember i say zola gone by january? i tell you so and i tell you a new italian manager coming too.

u listen to me you golder peeple
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Will some of you just give this bloke a chance? He hasn't been hee 2 mins and some people have already starting spouting rubbish. This season I will genuinely be happy with mid-table. We're currrently heading downwards, and quickly, so just need someone in to steady things and get some sort of coherency in the team. It's easy to know him as he's unknown, foreign, etc, but sometimes these things can work out for the best. At the moment, none of us know what's going to happen. Give him some time then we can voice our opinions. HC[/p][/quote]You remember i say zola gone by january? i tell you so and i tell you a new italian manager coming too. u listen to me you golder peeple pizinloc

1:59pm Wed 18 Dec 13

ramage1996 says...

4 promotions in his career, no relegation's, a record of maintaining small teams at levels beyond their normal station, and from what iv looked up on the net he speaks fluent English.

Why the negative comments?
4 promotions in his career, no relegation's, a record of maintaining small teams at levels beyond their normal station, and from what iv looked up on the net he speaks fluent English. Why the negative comments? ramage1996

2:01pm Wed 18 Dec 13

sgevans says...

To those rightly stating the lack of success foreign managers have had getting teams out of the Championship. Respectfully I would argue while that is true, the modern WFC is not constructed like a typical Championship outfit, our structure is more akin to a Premiership "lite" outfit. We have global talent reach and play a style not usually seen in the Championship. I am saying this not because I believe it is better or will even work - I have no crystal ball. But to simply state that is why an international coaching structure makes perfect sense in a globally sourced team and if the Pozzo's trust Italian coaching methods that would also make sense.

We are not Huddersfield, Burnley or even the likes of Hull, we are closer to a Swansea, Southampton or even Wigan model. With a blend of youth team talent and emerging foreigners with a few experienced folks to add balance. Most English coaches are not familiar with this construct and would struggle to get to grips with it - think about the stupid comments last year from "British" managers about WFC. Ironically the only British Manager who has adapted well to the global model is Rodgers...remember him? But as we know he was developed by "the chosen one".

Again this is not to say this will work in the Championship but the decision to hire this guy makes a lot of sense if you step back and look at the new structure at WFC rather than lumping us in the with traditional English outfits.
To those rightly stating the lack of success foreign managers have had getting teams out of the Championship. Respectfully I would argue while that is true, the modern WFC is not constructed like a typical Championship outfit, our structure is more akin to a Premiership "lite" outfit. We have global talent reach and play a style not usually seen in the Championship. I am saying this not because I believe it is better or will even work - I have no crystal ball. But to simply state that is why an international coaching structure makes perfect sense in a globally sourced team and if the Pozzo's trust Italian coaching methods that would also make sense. We are not Huddersfield, Burnley or even the likes of Hull, we are closer to a Swansea, Southampton or even Wigan model. With a blend of youth team talent and emerging foreigners with a few experienced folks to add balance. Most English coaches are not familiar with this construct and would struggle to get to grips with it - think about the stupid comments last year from "British" managers about WFC. Ironically the only British Manager who has adapted well to the global model is Rodgers...remember him? But as we know he was developed by "the chosen one". Again this is not to say this will work in the Championship but the decision to hire this guy makes a lot of sense if you step back and look at the new structure at WFC rather than lumping us in the with traditional English outfits. sgevans

2:03pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Stoney77 says...

If the Pozzos are happy with Sannini then I'm happy with that. Welcome to the club. It should give all players a kick up the backside as they'll all need to impress the new gaffer.
COYH
If the Pozzos are happy with Sannini then I'm happy with that. Welcome to the club. It should give all players a kick up the backside as they'll all need to impress the new gaffer. COYH Stoney77

2:07pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Stoney77 says...

pizinloc wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
Will some of you just give this bloke a chance? He hasn't been hee 2 mins and some people have already starting spouting rubbish. This season I will genuinely be happy with mid-table. We're currrently heading downwards, and quickly, so just need someone in to steady things and get some sort of coherency in the team. It's easy to know him as he's unknown, foreign, etc, but sometimes these things can work out for the best. At the moment, none of us know what's going to happen. Give him some time then we can voice our opinions. HC
You remember i say zola gone by january? i tell you so and i tell you a new italian manager coming too.

u listen to me you golder peeple
Would you believe it, Nostradamus is a Hornet.
[quote][p][bold]pizinloc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Will some of you just give this bloke a chance? He hasn't been hee 2 mins and some people have already starting spouting rubbish. This season I will genuinely be happy with mid-table. We're currrently heading downwards, and quickly, so just need someone in to steady things and get some sort of coherency in the team. It's easy to know him as he's unknown, foreign, etc, but sometimes these things can work out for the best. At the moment, none of us know what's going to happen. Give him some time then we can voice our opinions. HC[/p][/quote]You remember i say zola gone by january? i tell you so and i tell you a new italian manager coming too. u listen to me you golder peeple[/p][/quote]Would you believe it, Nostradamus is a Hornet. Stoney77

2:18pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

Poppet Bear wrote:
Where have all the "in the Pozzo's we trust" mob gone ????
I'm still here!
[quote][p][bold]Poppet Bear[/bold] wrote: Where have all the "in the Pozzo's we trust" mob gone ????[/p][/quote]I'm still here! Boosey

2:18pm Wed 18 Dec 13

CaptainPC says...

watfordrick wrote:
jasonwatford wrote:
Glad to see first 7 and moaning !!!!! I guess we wont be seeing you...it will be no loss
It might be on ground receipts !
I make you right. Why all the haters. Ghost of WFC...
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: Glad to see first 7 and moaning !!!!! I guess we wont be seeing you...it will be no loss[/p][/quote]It might be on ground receipts ![/p][/quote]I make you right. Why all the haters. Ghost of WFC... CaptainPC

2:26pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

Ode to Sannino

He came from the land of pasta,
He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta,
We met Sir Pozzo,
And thought “I’ll have a go”,
And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way).

It reached May next year,
And the Pozzos they shed some tears,
For Watford went up,
And they won the FA Cup,
And all the Warbler could do was snear.

Sannino had a chat with our Loydy,
He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”.
LD scored 10 goals,
He scored against the Poles,
As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy.


I Thank You

HC
Ode to Sannino He came from the land of pasta, He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta, We met Sir Pozzo, And thought “I’ll have a go”, And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way). It reached May next year, And the Pozzos they shed some tears, For Watford went up, And they won the FA Cup, And all the Warbler could do was snear. Sannino had a chat with our Loydy, He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”. LD scored 10 goals, He scored against the Poles, As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy. I Thank You HC Hornet Cornet

2:26pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Jedarado says...

Some of these comments baffle me. The negativity is unvbelievable. He is being judged before a ball has even been kicked. Whats done is done and Zola has gone. Lets move on! Personally Id like to say to welcome to Watford Mr Sannino and and the best of luck!
Some of these comments baffle me. The negativity is unvbelievable. He is being judged before a ball has even been kicked. Whats done is done and Zola has gone. Lets move on! Personally Id like to say to welcome to Watford Mr Sannino and and the best of luck! Jedarado

2:31pm Wed 18 Dec 13

andyrankin says...

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
Wish you spoke English and had some UK support in his coaching staff but welcome to the Vic Mr Sassino and good luck ! If the results go the right way we'll all grow to love you. If they don't, we wont !
Not that you'd understand what I've just said.....
very good
[quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: Wish you spoke English and had some UK support in his coaching staff but welcome to the Vic Mr Sassino and good luck ! If the results go the right way we'll all grow to love you. If they don't, we wont ! Not that you'd understand what I've just said.....[/p][/quote]very good andyrankin

2:34pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

BigBadVirgil wrote:
So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England. He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.
Watching a game recently, I asked my companions if they thought the same as me, If Alex is such a good keeper coach, then why doesn't Almunia or Bond come for crosses to alleviate the pressure on the defenders?
We were in agreement that maybe we are in need of a new keeper coach!
Lutondown stated if we had Tony Coton as the coach not only would the keepers improve but do you think he would take any crap from other players?
Improvements all round.
[quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England. He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.[/p][/quote]Watching a game recently, I asked my companions if they thought the same as me, If Alex is such a good keeper coach, then why doesn't Almunia or Bond come for crosses to alleviate the pressure on the defenders? We were in agreement that maybe we are in need of a new keeper coach! Lutondown stated if we had Tony Coton as the coach not only would the keepers improve but do you think he would take any crap from other players? Improvements all round. Boosey

2:37pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

BigBadVirgil wrote:
demerit wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
BigBadVirgil wrote:
So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab




ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England.

He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.
On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?!
It's easier to be a doubter. It's a way of hedging your bets.
On the basis that he is regarded as being one of the best goalkeeping coaches in the UK.

I am basking in the glory of nothing. If you ask the opinions of any goalkeepers that have gone through the club they will share my opinion.

My point is we are not an experiment, we are a football club supposedly challenging for promotion, or dare I say it, automatic promotion. This amount of change at Christmas is surely going to have an impact on the squad.

This website is a forum to share opinions, you are welcome to yours as I am welcome to mine. I am not here to preach, just because I do not share the same opinion as you, does not make me wrong.
Alex...is that you ??
[quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: So he is looking to get rid of Alec Chamberlain...probab ly one of the best goalkeeping coaches in England. He will get my support, but I doubt this guy has the credentials to be a top Championship manager.[/p][/quote]On what do you base that subjective statement? Have you been trained by Alec Chamberlain? Or are you basking in the glow of the play off semi back in 99. AC has been a long standing constant at the club, but that doesn't mean a new coach has to keep him, does it? Or are you looking for another excuse to moan before the ink is even dry on the contract?![/p][/quote]It's easier to be a doubter. It's a way of hedging your bets.[/p][/quote]On the basis that he is regarded as being one of the best goalkeeping coaches in the UK. I am basking in the glory of nothing. If you ask the opinions of any goalkeepers that have gone through the club they will share my opinion. My point is we are not an experiment, we are a football club supposedly challenging for promotion, or dare I say it, automatic promotion. This amount of change at Christmas is surely going to have an impact on the squad. This website is a forum to share opinions, you are welcome to yours as I am welcome to mine. I am not here to preach, just because I do not share the same opinion as you, does not make me wrong.[/p][/quote]Alex...is that you ?? Mickey Quinn, not so thin

2:37pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

BBC Resume on Sannoni: Giuseppe Sannino is a 56-year-old Italian coach who played as a midfielder for several minor Italian teams. He retired from playing in 1988 and took his first steps in management with lower league Italian side Oltrepo.

Sannino managed in Serie A for the first time in 2011, replacing Antonio Conte at newly promoted side Siena and he kept the club in the top flight, as well as guiding them to the semi-finals of the Coppa Italia.

He took charge of Palermo in June 2012 but after managing to pick up just one point from three games, he was sacked in September that year but returned this March. He became Chievo boss on 1 July, but was sacked last month.
BBC Resume on Sannoni: Giuseppe Sannino is a 56-year-old Italian coach who played as a midfielder for several minor Italian teams. He retired from playing in 1988 and took his first steps in management with lower league Italian side Oltrepo. Sannino managed in Serie A for the first time in 2011, replacing Antonio Conte at newly promoted side Siena and he kept the club in the top flight, as well as guiding them to the semi-finals of the Coppa Italia. He took charge of Palermo in June 2012 but after managing to pick up just one point from three games, he was sacked in September that year but returned this March. He became Chievo boss on 1 July, but was sacked last month. Hornet Cornet

2:38pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted. watfordrick

2:48pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Henry VIII says...

Welcome aboard Mr. Sannino. As I expected, the choice of manager was a surprise, but to my mind that is what is refreshing about our owners. While I can sympathise with fans who are worried and think that this is a poor appointment, logic tells me that everything to date by our owners has been decided on common sense, practical and a sound business practice. Do you really think that the Pozzo family are going to invest in a man that they have little faith in? I doubt it - would you? The phobia about the language barrier is to me outdated, gone are the days of Ardilles and Villa at Tottenham as two 'foreigners'. English is taught and spoken as a second language through most of Europe. Take a look at the Premiership, it is full of multi-nationals and we are currently witnessing some of the most exciting football ever seen in this country. I do not know the man, neither do I know the Pozzo's. However, sometimes in life you have to put your trust in something or someone, and I trust in these guys doing what is right for OUR club. They are not fools, the fool was the one in the builders hat outside the pub across the road. These are professional businessmen - and the new Manager has bought along experienced men to help. Good luck GS and your coaching team - we are ALL in this together, and it will be one game at a time. If we lose at Ipswich, it is not the end. If we win, it is not the greatest result ion the clubs history. As with all new managerial appointments at our club, I am excited. I hope that the majority of you are as well.
Welcome aboard Mr. Sannino. As I expected, the choice of manager was a surprise, but to my mind that is what is refreshing about our owners. While I can sympathise with fans who are worried and think that this is a poor appointment, logic tells me that everything to date by our owners has been decided on common sense, practical and a sound business practice. Do you really think that the Pozzo family are going to invest in a man that they have little faith in? I doubt it - would you? The phobia about the language barrier is to me outdated, gone are the days of Ardilles and Villa at Tottenham as two 'foreigners'. English is taught and spoken as a second language through most of Europe. Take a look at the Premiership, it is full of multi-nationals and we are currently witnessing some of the most exciting football ever seen in this country. I do not know the man, neither do I know the Pozzo's. However, sometimes in life you have to put your trust in something or someone, and I trust in these guys doing what is right for OUR club. They are not fools, the fool was the one in the builders hat outside the pub across the road. These are professional businessmen - and the new Manager has bought along experienced men to help. Good luck GS and your coaching team - we are ALL in this together, and it will be one game at a time. If we lose at Ipswich, it is not the end. If we win, it is not the greatest result ion the clubs history. As with all new managerial appointments at our club, I am excited. I hope that the majority of you are as well. Henry VIII

2:49pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

Watforce wrote:
Sannino whaooo, Sannino whaoooooooooooooooo, His head is so shiny, He comes from Italy. Alternatively: He's completely unknown by me He's the Watford manager now, fact! Support him, support the team. COYH
He's got a new staff of three,
He comes from Italy,
Sannino whaooh!
[quote][p][bold]Watforce[/bold] wrote: Sannino whaooo, Sannino whaoooooooooooooooo, His head is so shiny, He comes from Italy. Alternatively: He's completely unknown by me He's the Watford manager now, fact! Support him, support the team. COYH[/p][/quote]He's got a new staff of three, He comes from Italy, Sannino whaooh! Boosey

2:55pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Stoney77 says...

watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games.
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games. Stoney77

2:58pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name! Boosey

3:02pm Wed 18 Dec 13

mkhornet says...

Let's get behind the guy, even if he looks like Pierluigi Collina's love child. Only time will tell if this is a good appointment or not, let's not make his task more difficult by getting on his back before a ball is kicked. After all we all want the same thing, a successful Watford team..........don't we? Welcome Signor Sannino. COYH.
Let's get behind the guy, even if he looks like Pierluigi Collina's love child. Only time will tell if this is a good appointment or not, let's not make his task more difficult by getting on his back before a ball is kicked. After all we all want the same thing, a successful Watford team..........don't we? Welcome Signor Sannino. COYH. mkhornet

3:02pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Harrydownunder says...

Negative comments are ridiculous... We almost had no club no so long ago -look where we are now? Annoyed that we haven't won the league by christmas!

The pozzos have stated they are here for the long term. If I was them reading half the comments on here I would begin to wonder if I had done the right thing buying this club!

Get behind the new bloke, the team and raise the roof off the Vic at each home game. Make it an intimidating place to visit!

Remember Zola didn't have championship experience and look what he achieved in his first season!!

COYH!
Negative comments are ridiculous... We almost had no club no so long ago -look where we are now? Annoyed that we haven't won the league by christmas! The pozzos have stated they are here for the long term. If I was them reading half the comments on here I would begin to wonder if I had done the right thing buying this club! Get behind the new bloke, the team and raise the roof off the Vic at each home game. Make it an intimidating place to visit! Remember Zola didn't have championship experience and look what he achieved in his first season!! COYH! Harrydownunder

3:02pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Drewoneone says...

SimmyB wrote:
Jurys out for me. Not sure. Seemed to be a little rushed.... why couldnt we just sit tight for a bit and have an interim manager and then think about appointing someone. :/
That sounds like a typical fudge solution SimmyB. Do we really think the Pozzos left this all to the last minute and do not have alternative strategies when things don't go to plan?
[quote][p][bold]SimmyB[/bold] wrote: Jurys out for me. Not sure. Seemed to be a little rushed.... why couldnt we just sit tight for a bit and have an interim manager and then think about appointing someone. :/[/p][/quote]That sounds like a typical fudge solution SimmyB. Do we really think the Pozzos left this all to the last minute and do not have alternative strategies when things don't go to plan? Drewoneone

3:05pm Wed 18 Dec 13

edhorn says...

Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up.
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up. edhorn

3:06pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Harrydownunder says...

Stoney77 wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games.
Too many people playing football manager these days!!!
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games.[/p][/quote]Too many people playing football manager these days!!! Harrydownunder

3:08pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

Stoney77 wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games.
I didn't say I could do a better job but that I could choose a better manager
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games.[/p][/quote]I didn't say I could do a better job but that I could choose a better manager watfordrick

3:11pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

edhorn wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up.
Yes agree ed. Boosey ignorant die hard face painted plastic hooligan sitting with the rest of the mugs !!
[quote][p][bold]edhorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up.[/p][/quote]Yes agree ed. Boosey ignorant die hard face painted plastic hooligan sitting with the rest of the mugs !! watfordrick

3:12pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Stoney77 says...

watfordrick wrote:
Stoney77 wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games.
I didn't say I could do a better job but that I could choose a better manager
Considering the selection of a club's manager is one of the more important tasks a club owner undertakes, I'm not really sure what your point is.
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games.[/p][/quote]I didn't say I could do a better job but that I could choose a better manager[/p][/quote]Considering the selection of a club's manager is one of the more important tasks a club owner undertakes, I'm not really sure what your point is. Stoney77

3:13pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Have you broken up from school already? Get some fresh air!
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Have you broken up from school already? Get some fresh air! watfordrick

3:15pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

Stoney77 wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Stoney77 wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games.
I didn't say I could do a better job but that I could choose a better manager
Considering the selection of a club's manager is one of the more important tasks a club owner undertakes, I'm not really sure what your point is.
I think my point is that its not a very good selection .
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]I imagine the Pozzos had no prior knowledge of Spanish football before taking over Granada..... Haven't done too shabbily there have they? It may take them a while to get used to the English leagues and what's needed etc, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Call me stark raving bonkers if you like but I'd rather have the Pozzos over a crook like Bassini or indeed over a fan that reckons he can do a better job just because he's watched some football games.[/p][/quote]I didn't say I could do a better job but that I could choose a better manager[/p][/quote]Considering the selection of a club's manager is one of the more important tasks a club owner undertakes, I'm not really sure what your point is.[/p][/quote]I think my point is that its not a very good selection . watfordrick

3:15pm Wed 18 Dec 13

hogweed says...

This appointment is mince and I fear for the future.

Hog out
This appointment is mince and I fear for the future. Hog out hogweed

3:16pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Stoney77 says...

watfordrick wrote:
edhorn wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up.
Yes agree ed. Boosey ignorant die hard face painted plastic hooligan sitting with the rest of the mugs !!
I love the hypocrisy of this post
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]edhorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up.[/p][/quote]Yes agree ed. Boosey ignorant die hard face painted plastic hooligan sitting with the rest of the mugs !![/p][/quote]I love the hypocrisy of this post Stoney77

3:17pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Singhorn72 says...

Premier League here we come!!!!
Premier League here we come!!!! Singhorn72

3:26pm Wed 18 Dec 13

ralear49 says...

steveherts wrote:
He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens.
so I guess we can look forward to a string of 0-0 results. Good enough to avoid relegation, boring enough to reduce the gate by 5,000 fans. Hope all the "GZ out"crowd like what they get next.
[quote][p][bold]steveherts[/bold] wrote: He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens.[/p][/quote]so I guess we can look forward to a string of 0-0 results. Good enough to avoid relegation, boring enough to reduce the gate by 5,000 fans. Hope all the "GZ out"crowd like what they get next. ralear49

3:43pm Wed 18 Dec 13

ramage1996 says...

To be honest there are those on here that post regularly that clearly love the club but do not agree with this decision, fair enough I dont agree with you but you obviously have the club at heart.

However there are characters like ralear49 and watfordrick posting on here who I have never seen post before criticising the club and saying nothing constructive. I would suggest they are probably Luton fans and when another new name appears on this article you have never heard of its ignored.
To be honest there are those on here that post regularly that clearly love the club but do not agree with this decision, fair enough I dont agree with you but you obviously have the club at heart. However there are characters like ralear49 and watfordrick posting on here who I have never seen post before criticising the club and saying nothing constructive. I would suggest they are probably Luton fans and when another new name appears on this article you have never heard of its ignored. ramage1996

3:44pm Wed 18 Dec 13

MainStandShambles says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
Truth be told, I am somewhat underwhelmed by the appointment, but then again I was equally underwhelmed by Lewington, Boothroyd, Rodgers, Malky and Sean Dyche's appointments. Prior to Zola, the last time I was excited by a managerial appointment was Vialli and look how that turned out!

I am somewhat concerned that the new manager has no experience of the Championship and English football and there may be a language problem. Apart from di Matteo and Zola last season, the record of foreign managers in this division is not good - remember Berg at Blackburn and the guy at Wolves last term, whose name escapes me.

However every situation is unique and the Pozzos know what there are doing. There must be a good reason behind this appointment. They will not wish us to be in Division 1 or they will lose pots of money - for a start the new stand will be a waste and sponsorship will be under threat!

I think given the speed of the appointment this was on the cards if Zola went. Another poster stated on one thread that Zola offered to resign after the Yeovil game. That may be so and Nani/ Duxbury and/ or Gino Pozzo suggested to Zola that he give it another few games - in reality 3, and then revisit that decision. Also, sadly Zola has recently had the demeanour of a condemned man. Who knows the truth and this is speculation, now history and irrelevant!

In the interim the back-up of Sannino as a manager was put in place if Zola left. The Pozzos are nothing if not pragmatic and decisive. They would not wish to have an extended inter-regnum like Palace recently. We couldn't afford that.

Sonnino is no household name and may not be inspirational like Zola, but lets give him a chance. After all who did we expect ? (Di Matteo would be out of our price range given his £100k+ per week he still gets for not managing Chelsea).

So onwards and hopefully upwards, who's for 3 points at Portman Road!
COYH.
A well reasoned post soulfullhornet.

The posters on here complaining that the appointment is too quick would probably have moaned if it had taken more than a couple of days to get someone in place.

Like the majority of reasoned fans on here i was sorry to see Zola go but accept that the Pozzos must know what they're doing. We should trust their judgement in these situations.

Welcome to Watford Sr Sannino and good luck.

The King is dead....long live the King!
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Truth be told, I am somewhat underwhelmed by the appointment, but then again I was equally underwhelmed by Lewington, Boothroyd, Rodgers, Malky and Sean Dyche's appointments. Prior to Zola, the last time I was excited by a managerial appointment was Vialli and look how that turned out! I am somewhat concerned that the new manager has no experience of the Championship and English football and there may be a language problem. Apart from di Matteo and Zola last season, the record of foreign managers in this division is not good - remember Berg at Blackburn and the guy at Wolves last term, whose name escapes me. However every situation is unique and the Pozzos know what there are doing. There must be a good reason behind this appointment. They will not wish us to be in Division 1 or they will lose pots of money - for a start the new stand will be a waste and sponsorship will be under threat! I think given the speed of the appointment this was on the cards if Zola went. Another poster stated on one thread that Zola offered to resign after the Yeovil game. That may be so and Nani/ Duxbury and/ or Gino Pozzo suggested to Zola that he give it another few games - in reality 3, and then revisit that decision. Also, sadly Zola has recently had the demeanour of a condemned man. Who knows the truth and this is speculation, now history and irrelevant! In the interim the back-up of Sannino as a manager was put in place if Zola left. The Pozzos are nothing if not pragmatic and decisive. They would not wish to have an extended inter-regnum like Palace recently. We couldn't afford that. Sonnino is no household name and may not be inspirational like Zola, but lets give him a chance. After all who did we expect ? (Di Matteo would be out of our price range given his £100k+ per week he still gets for not managing Chelsea). So onwards and hopefully upwards, who's for 3 points at Portman Road! COYH.[/p][/quote]A well reasoned post soulfullhornet. The posters on here complaining that the appointment is too quick would probably have moaned if it had taken more than a couple of days to get someone in place. Like the majority of reasoned fans on here i was sorry to see Zola go but accept that the Pozzos must know what they're doing. We should trust their judgement in these situations. Welcome to Watford Sr Sannino and good luck. The King is dead....long live the King! MainStandShambles

3:45pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SAHornet says...

ralear49 wrote:
steveherts wrote:
He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens.
so I guess we can look forward to a string of 0-0 results. Good enough to avoid relegation, boring enough to reduce the gate by 5,000 fans. Hope all the "GZ out"crowd like what they get next.
but that's just the point ralear, we don't know what we're gonna get yet so why not just support the actions of our owners in the meantime, until you see what the results are
[quote][p][bold]ralear49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steveherts[/bold] wrote: He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens.[/p][/quote]so I guess we can look forward to a string of 0-0 results. Good enough to avoid relegation, boring enough to reduce the gate by 5,000 fans. Hope all the "GZ out"crowd like what they get next.[/p][/quote]but that's just the point ralear, we don't know what we're gonna get yet so why not just support the actions of our owners in the meantime, until you see what the results are SAHornet

3:48pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

ramage1996 wrote:
To be honest there are those on here that post regularly that clearly love the club but do not agree with this decision, fair enough I dont agree with you but you obviously have the club at heart.

However there are characters like ralear49 and watfordrick posting on here who I have never seen post before criticising the club and saying nothing constructive. I would suggest they are probably Luton fans and when another new name appears on this article you have never heard of its ignored.
How dare you Ramage!
[quote][p][bold]ramage1996[/bold] wrote: To be honest there are those on here that post regularly that clearly love the club but do not agree with this decision, fair enough I dont agree with you but you obviously have the club at heart. However there are characters like ralear49 and watfordrick posting on here who I have never seen post before criticising the club and saying nothing constructive. I would suggest they are probably Luton fans and when another new name appears on this article you have never heard of its ignored.[/p][/quote]How dare you Ramage! watfordrick

3:53pm Wed 18 Dec 13

84AGAIN says...

So the rumours are true, Len Goodman is quitting Strictly and getting into football management..........
So the rumours are true, Len Goodman is quitting Strictly and getting into football management.......... 84AGAIN

3:53pm Wed 18 Dec 13

ramage1996 says...

watfordrick wrote:
ramage1996 wrote:
To be honest there are those on here that post regularly that clearly love the club but do not agree with this decision, fair enough I dont agree with you but you obviously have the club at heart.

However there are characters like ralear49 and watfordrick posting on here who I have never seen post before criticising the club and saying nothing constructive. I would suggest they are probably Luton fans and when another new name appears on this article you have never heard of its ignored.
How dare you Ramage!
f**k off scummer, concentrate on Gateshead this weekend and leave this article to us big club supporters.
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramage1996[/bold] wrote: To be honest there are those on here that post regularly that clearly love the club but do not agree with this decision, fair enough I dont agree with you but you obviously have the club at heart. However there are characters like ralear49 and watfordrick posting on here who I have never seen post before criticising the club and saying nothing constructive. I would suggest they are probably Luton fans and when another new name appears on this article you have never heard of its ignored.[/p][/quote]How dare you Ramage![/p][/quote]f**k off scummer, concentrate on Gateshead this weekend and leave this article to us big club supporters. ramage1996

4:04pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

I think its great that many of you are positive with the new appointment. All clubs need these type of fans that are willing to happily follow along with the owners and will support the club through thick and thin. I am Watford fan and have been all my life admittedly some seasons more committed than others (not the premiership ones though I didn't seem to enjoy those). I've been quite a lot this season though not all games and its my choice. Sometimes if we are losing heavily and playing badly I leave and go somewhere else after all its my time and money - sometimes I sit in the bar for the whole of the second half. I know leaving early upsets alot of the diehards but I think its my time and I wanna decent pint so why should they care. I'm disappointed with the choice of manager and hope I'm wrong but I think I have the right to be disappointed and I think I have the right to voice it. What I am saying is including myself not all fans will go week in week out if they lose interest!
I think its great that many of you are positive with the new appointment. All clubs need these type of fans that are willing to happily follow along with the owners and will support the club through thick and thin. I am Watford fan and have been all my life admittedly some seasons more committed than others (not the premiership ones though I didn't seem to enjoy those). I've been quite a lot this season though not all games and its my choice. Sometimes if we are losing heavily and playing badly I leave and go somewhere else after all its my time and money - sometimes I sit in the bar for the whole of the second half. I know leaving early upsets alot of the diehards but I think its my time and I wanna decent pint so why should they care. I'm disappointed with the choice of manager and hope I'm wrong but I think I have the right to be disappointed and I think I have the right to voice it. What I am saying is including myself not all fans will go week in week out if they lose interest! watfordrick

4:21pm Wed 18 Dec 13

longcliffe says...

Welcome to League One!
Welcome to League One! longcliffe

4:53pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

edhorn wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up.
You not doing the same by telling me to grow up, you can do one as well.
[quote][p][bold]edhorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up.[/p][/quote]You not doing the same by telling me to grow up, you can do one as well. Boosey

5:05pm Wed 18 Dec 13

MJ1 says...

It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra!
We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation.
Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice.
It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra! We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation. Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice. MJ1

5:18pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

MJ1 wrote:
It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra! We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation. Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice.
The aim of the Pozzos is the Premiership, Watford were an opportunity to get there on limited costs.
Now do you believe a club the size of Watford will be sustainable for a long period of time outside of the Premiership? No.
We all know they are in it for a return on their investment and the only place to be is the Premiership, do you honestly believe they have just got their buddys in just for fun?
They are business people who want some of the cash cow that is the Premiership. They know what tthey are doing.
[quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra! We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation. Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice.[/p][/quote]The aim of the Pozzos is the Premiership, Watford were an opportunity to get there on limited costs. Now do you believe a club the size of Watford will be sustainable for a long period of time outside of the Premiership? No. We all know they are in it for a return on their investment and the only place to be is the Premiership, do you honestly believe they have just got their buddys in just for fun? They are business people who want some of the cash cow that is the Premiership. They know what tthey are doing. Boosey

5:19pm Wed 18 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

MJ1 wrote:
It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra!
We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation.
Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice.
Some of this is valid, but its not just a Watford problem, and its far greater issue in the top flight. How exactly would fans of Manchester United, Liverpool or Chelsea, to name but a few, EVER get to own 51% of their club? Money talks, my friend, whether we like it or not.

To assume Watford is a mixture of Feudalism and Cosa Nostra is hilarious. Are you aware that over 20% of current land ownership in this country can be traced DIRECTLY back to the cohorts of William the Conqueror? It's not just football, fella.

As for the stuff about community, the club seem to be very good a cultivating a community feel doesn't it? Or are you suggesting a recruitment policy that served the Lisbon Lions so well back in 1967. That's not the way it works anymore, much as I think it has its merits.
[quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra! We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation. Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice.[/p][/quote]Some of this is valid, but its not just a Watford problem, and its far greater issue in the top flight. How exactly would fans of Manchester United, Liverpool or Chelsea, to name but a few, EVER get to own 51% of their club? Money talks, my friend, whether we like it or not. To assume Watford is a mixture of Feudalism and Cosa Nostra is hilarious. Are you aware that over 20% of current land ownership in this country can be traced DIRECTLY back to the cohorts of William the Conqueror? It's not just football, fella. As for the stuff about community, the club seem to be very good a cultivating a community feel doesn't it? Or are you suggesting a recruitment policy that served the Lisbon Lions so well back in 1967. That's not the way it works anymore, much as I think it has its merits. mellow yellow

5:26pm Wed 18 Dec 13

muzzy999 says...

GIVE. HIM. A. CHANCE.
GIVE. HIM. A. CHANCE. muzzy999

5:30pm Wed 18 Dec 13

MJ1 says...

mellow yellow wrote:
MJ1 wrote:
It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra!
We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation.
Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice.
Some of this is valid, but its not just a Watford problem, and its far greater issue in the top flight. How exactly would fans of Manchester United, Liverpool or Chelsea, to name but a few, EVER get to own 51% of their club? Money talks, my friend, whether we like it or not.

To assume Watford is a mixture of Feudalism and Cosa Nostra is hilarious. Are you aware that over 20% of current land ownership in this country can be traced DIRECTLY back to the cohorts of William the Conqueror? It's not just football, fella.

As for the stuff about community, the club seem to be very good a cultivating a community feel doesn't it? Or are you suggesting a recruitment policy that served the Lisbon Lions so well back in 1967. That's not the way it works anymore, much as I think it has its merits.
If you are genuinely interested here is a very informative article on the Bayern Munich model - a club, like all german clubs, 51% owned by the fans.
http://bleacherrepor
t.com/articles/16382
21-is-bayern-munich-
the-perfect-working-
model-of-a-modern-fo
otball-club
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra! We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation. Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice.[/p][/quote]Some of this is valid, but its not just a Watford problem, and its far greater issue in the top flight. How exactly would fans of Manchester United, Liverpool or Chelsea, to name but a few, EVER get to own 51% of their club? Money talks, my friend, whether we like it or not. To assume Watford is a mixture of Feudalism and Cosa Nostra is hilarious. Are you aware that over 20% of current land ownership in this country can be traced DIRECTLY back to the cohorts of William the Conqueror? It's not just football, fella. As for the stuff about community, the club seem to be very good a cultivating a community feel doesn't it? Or are you suggesting a recruitment policy that served the Lisbon Lions so well back in 1967. That's not the way it works anymore, much as I think it has its merits.[/p][/quote]If you are genuinely interested here is a very informative article on the Bayern Munich model - a club, like all german clubs, 51% owned by the fans. http://bleacherrepor t.com/articles/16382 21-is-bayern-munich- the-perfect-working- model-of-a-modern-fo otball-club MJ1

5:37pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordal says...

Totally underwhelmed by the appointment(s), and concerned how long this had been under discussion b4 GFZ "resigned".
While obviously we love the Pozzo's for rescuing our, well their, club, and for so much of last season, are we now obliged to have Italian managers and coaches as infinitum?
Also, any activity in the transfer window or new loanees seem most likely to be sourced from overseas, which may exacerbate further the rumoured unrest in the dressing room... can't honestly see TD bouncing around in excitement at the appointment.
Still as Mickey Quinn said, win more than you lose and we'll all think you're a hero.
Here's hoping......
Totally underwhelmed by the appointment(s), and concerned how long this had been under discussion b4 GFZ "resigned". While obviously we love the Pozzo's for rescuing our, well their, club, and for so much of last season, are we now obliged to have Italian managers and coaches as infinitum? Also, any activity in the transfer window or new loanees seem most likely to be sourced from overseas, which may exacerbate further the rumoured unrest in the dressing room... can't honestly see TD bouncing around in excitement at the appointment. Still as Mickey Quinn said, win more than you lose and we'll all think you're a hero. Here's hoping...... watfordal

5:39pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Boosey says...

watfordrick wrote:
I think its great that many of you are positive with the new appointment. All clubs need these type of fans that are willing to happily follow along with the owners and will support the club through thick and thin. I am Watford fan and have been all my life admittedly some seasons more committed than others (not the premiership ones though I didn't seem to enjoy those). I've been quite a lot this season though not all games and its my choice. Sometimes if we are losing heavily and playing badly I leave and go somewhere else after all its my time and money - sometimes I sit in the bar for the whole of the second half. I know leaving early upsets alot of the diehards but I think its my time and I wanna decent pint so why should they care. I'm disappointed with the choice of manager and hope I'm wrong but I think I have the right to be disappointed and I think I have the right to voice it. What I am saying is including myself not all fans will go week in week out if they lose interest!
You are entitled to sit on your own supping what you call a decent beer, I certainly wouldn't call any beer in the ground decent.
Why don't you join me and the other mugs in the West Herts Club before the game and have a decent beer in decent company and I will prove I am not a hooligan.
P.S. The last time I looked you had 88 thumbs down on your first post, that post is the reason why I slated you.
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: I think its great that many of you are positive with the new appointment. All clubs need these type of fans that are willing to happily follow along with the owners and will support the club through thick and thin. I am Watford fan and have been all my life admittedly some seasons more committed than others (not the premiership ones though I didn't seem to enjoy those). I've been quite a lot this season though not all games and its my choice. Sometimes if we are losing heavily and playing badly I leave and go somewhere else after all its my time and money - sometimes I sit in the bar for the whole of the second half. I know leaving early upsets alot of the diehards but I think its my time and I wanna decent pint so why should they care. I'm disappointed with the choice of manager and hope I'm wrong but I think I have the right to be disappointed and I think I have the right to voice it. What I am saying is including myself not all fans will go week in week out if they lose interest![/p][/quote]You are entitled to sit on your own supping what you call a decent beer, I certainly wouldn't call any beer in the ground decent. Why don't you join me and the other mugs in the West Herts Club before the game and have a decent beer in decent company and I will prove I am not a hooligan. P.S. The last time I looked you had 88 thumbs down on your first post, that post is the reason why I slated you. Boosey

5:45pm Wed 18 Dec 13

hornbob says...

To be honest, none of us know what the future brings. I would like to say though were going to miss you Zola. I for one really liked his managerial skills. Ive seen some fantastic games.
I wish you all the best mate for the future and for you to prove your superiors wrong.
You had no more players to p;ay. You didn't sign them. I know that for a fact.
In Jan he would have bought players in to keep us in safety mode. just because we did well last season doesn't mean we should be better this season. lets face it, we didn't do that well at the end of the season. Look at the STATS.
Good luck to the new manager whatever his name is and talk to the Observer and to us supporters.
To be honest, none of us know what the future brings. I would like to say though were going to miss you Zola. I for one really liked his managerial skills. Ive seen some fantastic games. I wish you all the best mate for the future and for you to prove your superiors wrong. You had no more players to p;ay. You didn't sign them. I know that for a fact. In Jan he would have bought players in to keep us in safety mode. just because we did well last season doesn't mean we should be better this season. lets face it, we didn't do that well at the end of the season. Look at the STATS. Good luck to the new manager whatever his name is and talk to the Observer and to us supporters. hornbob

6:19pm Wed 18 Dec 13

The_Hornet says...

He looks pretty ruthless.. which is something that Zola arguably lacked. One key problem with Zola was that he could be seen as being "too" kind or lenient. This guy, although may or may nor have an amazing career background, has experience, and looks like the kind of guy you'd want to get on the good side of. He, I think, is an ideal manager, who's committed to strong defences. I think this is a promising managerial promotion. People need to stop complaining, and get behind him. Give him a chance for goodness sake.. he's hasn't even started yet, and many of you are already complaining. Get behind him and the boy.. COYH
He looks pretty ruthless.. which is something that Zola arguably lacked. One key problem with Zola was that he could be seen as being "too" kind or lenient. This guy, although may or may nor have an amazing career background, has experience, and looks like the kind of guy you'd want to get on the good side of. He, I think, is an ideal manager, who's committed to strong defences. I think this is a promising managerial promotion. People need to stop complaining, and get behind him. Give him a chance for goodness sake.. he's hasn't even started yet, and many of you are already complaining. Get behind him and the boy.. COYH The_Hornet

6:27pm Wed 18 Dec 13

ralear49 says...

SAHornet wrote:
ralear49 wrote:
steveherts wrote: He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens.
so I guess we can look forward to a string of 0-0 results. Good enough to avoid relegation, boring enough to reduce the gate by 5,000 fans. Hope all the "GZ out"crowd like what they get next.
but that's just the point ralear, we don't know what we're gonna get yet so why not just support the actions of our owners in the meantime, until you see what the results are
It's a fair point (and by the way, I first watched WFC when they played in blue and were the brewers). I live overseas and have rare chances to attend a game . But, the football I saw under GZ was as thrilling as the best days under Taylor and I felt he was let down by failure to address loss of Vydra, Chalobah, and Abdi. If he chose that path, fair enough, I'm just not sure that switching to a whole new team will, in the long term, be for the better. I sincerely hope I am wrong,
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ralear49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steveherts[/bold] wrote: He is a very very good defensive coach who makes his teams very hard to score against. I think he may do the job to the end of the season and it will be good to have experienced staff in place as we have been crying out for a decent defensive coach for a while. Shame they didnt bring him in with Zola but we will see what happens.[/p][/quote]so I guess we can look forward to a string of 0-0 results. Good enough to avoid relegation, boring enough to reduce the gate by 5,000 fans. Hope all the "GZ out"crowd like what they get next.[/p][/quote]but that's just the point ralear, we don't know what we're gonna get yet so why not just support the actions of our owners in the meantime, until you see what the results are[/p][/quote]It's a fair point (and by the way, I first watched WFC when they played in blue and were the brewers). I live overseas and have rare chances to attend a game . But, the football I saw under GZ was as thrilling as the best days under Taylor and I felt he was let down by failure to address loss of Vydra, Chalobah, and Abdi. If he chose that path, fair enough, I'm just not sure that switching to a whole new team will, in the long term, be for the better. I sincerely hope I am wrong, ralear49

6:32pm Wed 18 Dec 13

aperfectcircle says...

Good Luck Cannonball.

You're guna need it.
Good Luck Cannonball. You're guna need it. aperfectcircle

6:34pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
I think its great that many of you are positive with the new appointment. All clubs need these type of fans that are willing to happily follow along with the owners and will support the club through thick and thin. I am Watford fan and have been all my life admittedly some seasons more committed than others (not the premiership ones though I didn't seem to enjoy those). I've been quite a lot this season though not all games and its my choice. Sometimes if we are losing heavily and playing badly I leave and go somewhere else after all its my time and money - sometimes I sit in the bar for the whole of the second half. I know leaving early upsets alot of the diehards but I think its my time and I wanna decent pint so why should they care. I'm disappointed with the choice of manager and hope I'm wrong but I think I have the right to be disappointed and I think I have the right to voice it. What I am saying is including myself not all fans will go week in week out if they lose interest!
You are entitled to sit on your own supping what you call a decent beer, I certainly wouldn't call any beer in the ground decent.
Why don't you join me and the other mugs in the West Herts Club before the game and have a decent beer in decent company and I will prove I am not a hooligan.
P.S. The last time I looked you had 88 thumbs down on your first post, that post is the reason why I slated you.
I leave the ground to have a beer Boosey - Ok maybe I'll join you - will you sign me in?
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: I think its great that many of you are positive with the new appointment. All clubs need these type of fans that are willing to happily follow along with the owners and will support the club through thick and thin. I am Watford fan and have been all my life admittedly some seasons more committed than others (not the premiership ones though I didn't seem to enjoy those). I've been quite a lot this season though not all games and its my choice. Sometimes if we are losing heavily and playing badly I leave and go somewhere else after all its my time and money - sometimes I sit in the bar for the whole of the second half. I know leaving early upsets alot of the diehards but I think its my time and I wanna decent pint so why should they care. I'm disappointed with the choice of manager and hope I'm wrong but I think I have the right to be disappointed and I think I have the right to voice it. What I am saying is including myself not all fans will go week in week out if they lose interest![/p][/quote]You are entitled to sit on your own supping what you call a decent beer, I certainly wouldn't call any beer in the ground decent. Why don't you join me and the other mugs in the West Herts Club before the game and have a decent beer in decent company and I will prove I am not a hooligan. P.S. The last time I looked you had 88 thumbs down on your first post, that post is the reason why I slated you.[/p][/quote]I leave the ground to have a beer Boosey - Ok maybe I'll join you - will you sign me in? watfordrick

6:35pm Wed 18 Dec 13

goldanboy says...

First home game against Millwall. Should get a good idea what the Championship is all about. I do hope he speaks good English, as I feel a foreign speaking coaches can alienate fans .However, if we start playing like Southampton I'll put up with it. Like most people on here I say let's all get behind the new man.
First home game against Millwall. Should get a good idea what the Championship is all about. I do hope he speaks good English, as I feel a foreign speaking coaches can alienate fans .However, if we start playing like Southampton I'll put up with it. Like most people on here I say let's all get behind the new man. goldanboy

6:36pm Wed 18 Dec 13

lutondown says...

SimmyB wrote:
He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!!
No ones as ugly as Holloway except Holloways dad who lurks in a West Country field with a stake up his jacksy and is the Bain of all crows
[quote][p][bold]SimmyB[/bold] wrote: He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!![/p][/quote]No ones as ugly as Holloway except Holloways dad who lurks in a West Country field with a stake up his jacksy and is the Bain of all crows lutondown

6:38pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Colin.Foster's.Left.Boot says...

To sum up: in the pozzos we trust as long as we agree with them. When they make a decision that we don't like then we are doomed. Embarrassed by some comments today
To sum up: in the pozzos we trust as long as we agree with them. When they make a decision that we don't like then we are doomed. Embarrassed by some comments today Colin.Foster's.Left.Boot

6:40pm Wed 18 Dec 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
MJ1 wrote:
It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra! We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation. Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice.
The aim of the Pozzos is the Premiership, Watford were an opportunity to get there on limited costs.
Now do you believe a club the size of Watford will be sustainable for a long period of time outside of the Premiership? No.
We all know they are in it for a return on their investment and the only place to be is the Premiership, do you honestly believe they have just got their buddys in just for fun?
They are business people who want some of the cash cow that is the Premiership. They know what tthey are doing.
Great reply old buddy! Think this was lined up longer than the tool shed crew think.
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MJ1[/bold] wrote: It is an anacronism that in the 14th year of the 21st Century we in England still have a feudal and dysfunctional system of ownership of football clubs that means that we can be taken over and used by egotistical buyers with litle real interest in the fans or the community that the club serves. The appointment of Sannino is just one sorry example of how this feudal system works. Who knows what the future will now bring but the prospects are highly risky. What we do know is that little thought or consideration of the alternatives has been considered. The job wasn't advertised and the best person wasn't appointed after everything was considered. The job was filled in less than 48 hours by someone who must be part of the Pozzo network in Italy, Feudalism mixed with cosa nostra! We need a better system and there are successful models around. By law in Germany, the majority shareholding (51%) must be held by the fans. The management of the club can be held to account by the fans and the local community. Similar rights are afforded to fans in Spain. But in England owners rule with weak regulation. Time to campaign for change before we have to start a FC Watford to give fans a real voice.[/p][/quote]The aim of the Pozzos is the Premiership, Watford were an opportunity to get there on limited costs. Now do you believe a club the size of Watford will be sustainable for a long period of time outside of the Premiership? No. We all know they are in it for a return on their investment and the only place to be is the Premiership, do you honestly believe they have just got their buddys in just for fun? They are business people who want some of the cash cow that is the Premiership. They know what tthey are doing.[/p][/quote]Great reply old buddy! Think this was lined up longer than the tool shed crew think. lutondown

7:02pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Bonser Out says...

The best news of all regarding the appointment is that Hollowhead is still unemployed!
The best news of all regarding the appointment is that Hollowhead is still unemployed! Bonser Out

7:12pm Wed 18 Dec 13

DuffmanWFC says...

The Pozzo's are quality owners that have done everything right so far so for me I'm supporting there decision.
You can't please everyone and some peeps on here would of moaned if we would have signed a manager with a glittering CV!
Football is 11 v 11 and the winners are the ones who score the most goals.... Simple really... Same all over the world.... Being a foreigner don't change sh*t
The Pozzo's are quality owners that have done everything right so far so for me I'm supporting there decision. You can't please everyone and some peeps on here would of moaned if we would have signed a manager with a glittering CV! Football is 11 v 11 and the winners are the ones who score the most goals.... Simple really... Same all over the world.... Being a foreigner don't change sh*t DuffmanWFC

7:20pm Wed 18 Dec 13

b.kelso says...

This guy will get us into the play offs.....think it, believe it, achieve it......you horns....welcome to the Vic Mr Sannino!
This guy will get us into the play offs.....think it, believe it, achieve it......you horns....welcome to the Vic Mr Sannino! b.kelso

7:22pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Bruce.Wayne says...

I'm totally amazed by some of the comments on here. The guy hasn't been in the job five minutes and already - according to some people - we're playing Conference football! Give it a rest!
No-one builds - or holds onto - a multi-million pound/euro fortune by being careless or frivolous in their decision-making. So I'd say the Pozzos have a fair idea of what they're doing. Sure, Sannino has a CV as long as your arm but he's not been out of work, has he?!! That has to count for something.
Maybe the football won't be quite so pretty or thrilling as it was under GFZ ... or maybe, just maybe, it will be! Who knows?!
Let's just get behind the team and the new fella coming in. Give him our full support and encouragement, and let's see how it pans out over the next few months.
The Pozzos are here for one reason and one reason only .... Premiership football and everything that represents. If they believe Sannino is going to help deliver that, then he's going to get my support. COYH!
I'm totally amazed by some of the comments on here. The guy hasn't been in the job five minutes and already - according to some people - we're playing Conference football! Give it a rest! No-one builds - or holds onto - a multi-million pound/euro fortune by being careless or frivolous in their decision-making. So I'd say the Pozzos have a fair idea of what they're doing. Sure, Sannino has a CV as long as your arm but he's not been out of work, has he?!! That has to count for something. Maybe the football won't be quite so pretty or thrilling as it was under GFZ ... or maybe, just maybe, it will be! Who knows?! Let's just get behind the team and the new fella coming in. Give him our full support and encouragement, and let's see how it pans out over the next few months. The Pozzos are here for one reason and one reason only .... Premiership football and everything that represents. If they believe Sannino is going to help deliver that, then he's going to get my support. COYH! Bruce.Wayne

7:28pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SuperHorn says...

Not 100% sure about him. He has my full backing and I reckon he'll do well but he doesn't have ANY experience of British football. Does anyone know if he speaks English per chance?
Not 100% sure about him. He has my full backing and I reckon he'll do well but he doesn't have ANY experience of British football. Does anyone know if he speaks English per chance? SuperHorn

7:44pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Bruce.Wayne says...

SuperHorn wrote:
Not 100% sure about him. He has my full backing and I reckon he'll do well but he doesn't have ANY experience of British football. Does anyone know if he speaks English per chance?
Does it really matter (at this juncture anyway) what languages Sannino does or doesn't speak?
Fabio Capello barely spoke any English when he was appointed to the national side (barely spoke much when he left) and I bet his Russian ain't up to much now.
[quote][p][bold]SuperHorn[/bold] wrote: Not 100% sure about him. He has my full backing and I reckon he'll do well but he doesn't have ANY experience of British football. Does anyone know if he speaks English per chance?[/p][/quote]Does it really matter (at this juncture anyway) what languages Sannino does or doesn't speak? Fabio Capello barely spoke any English when he was appointed to the national side (barely spoke much when he left) and I bet his Russian ain't up to much now. Bruce.Wayne

8:16pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Ode to Sannino

He came from the land of pasta,
He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta,
We met Sir Pozzo,
And thought “I’ll have a go”,
And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way).

It reached May next year,
And the Pozzos they shed some tears,
For Watford went up,
And they won the FA Cup,
And all the Warbler could do was snear.

Sannino had a chat with our Loydy,
He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”.
LD scored 10 goals,
He scored against the Poles,
As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy.


I Thank You

HC
Does no-one like my poetry? I shall have to write another one...
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Ode to Sannino He came from the land of pasta, He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta, We met Sir Pozzo, And thought “I’ll have a go”, And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way). It reached May next year, And the Pozzos they shed some tears, For Watford went up, And they won the FA Cup, And all the Warbler could do was snear. Sannino had a chat with our Loydy, He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”. LD scored 10 goals, He scored against the Poles, As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy. I Thank You HC[/p][/quote]Does no-one like my poetry? I shall have to write another one... Hornet Cornet

8:17pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Abbots hornet says...

Somebody else seems to be Abbots hornet as well ! How weird! Anyway the real Abbots Hornet does not agree that it is a bad decision let's get behind the bloke and give him a chance.We all want success at the vic.Zola was so close but it wasn't to be.This year we have been going downhill There are clearly some egos in the dressing room that need culling.The Almunia business seems strange wonder what's been wrong with him? Nothing probably! I hope this guy sends back some of these inadequate loans we have like Thorne and McEachran.Also against Wednesday not one player in the team was left footed we had become tactically a shambles.The first thing he will realise I hope is that to do well in this league you have to battle and graft a bit .We are a bit powderpuff at present.3 points at Scott Loach land and he will be a hero!
Somebody else seems to be Abbots hornet as well ! How weird! Anyway the real Abbots Hornet does not agree that it is a bad decision let's get behind the bloke and give him a chance.We all want success at the vic.Zola was so close but it wasn't to be.This year we have been going downhill There are clearly some egos in the dressing room that need culling.The Almunia business seems strange wonder what's been wrong with him? Nothing probably! I hope this guy sends back some of these inadequate loans we have like Thorne and McEachran.Also against Wednesday not one player in the team was left footed we had become tactically a shambles.The first thing he will realise I hope is that to do well in this league you have to battle and graft a bit .We are a bit powderpuff at present.3 points at Scott Loach land and he will be a hero! Abbots hornet

8:24pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SuperHorn says...

Bruce.Wayne wrote:
SuperHorn wrote:
Not 100% sure about him. He has my full backing and I reckon he'll do well but he doesn't have ANY experience of British football. Does anyone know if he speaks English per chance?
Does it really matter (at this juncture anyway) what languages Sannino does or doesn't speak?
Fabio Capello barely spoke any English when he was appointed to the national side (barely spoke much when he left) and I bet his Russian ain't up to much now.
Fair comment. I reckon it's probably gotta be better for the non-Italian speaking players though if he does because they'll feel more connected than if they have to have a translator there
[quote][p][bold]Bruce.Wayne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SuperHorn[/bold] wrote: Not 100% sure about him. He has my full backing and I reckon he'll do well but he doesn't have ANY experience of British football. Does anyone know if he speaks English per chance?[/p][/quote]Does it really matter (at this juncture anyway) what languages Sannino does or doesn't speak? Fabio Capello barely spoke any English when he was appointed to the national side (barely spoke much when he left) and I bet his Russian ain't up to much now.[/p][/quote]Fair comment. I reckon it's probably gotta be better for the non-Italian speaking players though if he does because they'll feel more connected than if they have to have a translator there SuperHorn

8:30pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Bruce.Wayne says...

Abbots hornet wrote:
Somebody else seems to be Abbots hornet as well ! How weird! Anyway the real Abbots Hornet does not agree that it is a bad decision let's get behind the bloke and give him a chance.We all want success at the vic.Zola was so close but it wasn't to be.This year we have been going downhill There are clearly some egos in the dressing room that need culling.The Almunia business seems strange wonder what's been wrong with him? Nothing probably! I hope this guy sends back some of these inadequate loans we have like Thorne and McEachran.Also against Wednesday not one player in the team was left footed we had become tactically a shambles.The first thing he will realise I hope is that to do well in this league you have to battle and graft a bit .We are a bit powderpuff at present.3 points at Scott Loach land and he will be a hero!
3 points at The Vic and he'll be a hero!
[quote][p][bold]Abbots hornet[/bold] wrote: Somebody else seems to be Abbots hornet as well ! How weird! Anyway the real Abbots Hornet does not agree that it is a bad decision let's get behind the bloke and give him a chance.We all want success at the vic.Zola was so close but it wasn't to be.This year we have been going downhill There are clearly some egos in the dressing room that need culling.The Almunia business seems strange wonder what's been wrong with him? Nothing probably! I hope this guy sends back some of these inadequate loans we have like Thorne and McEachran.Also against Wednesday not one player in the team was left footed we had become tactically a shambles.The first thing he will realise I hope is that to do well in this league you have to battle and graft a bit .We are a bit powderpuff at present.3 points at Scott Loach land and he will be a hero![/p][/quote]3 points at The Vic and he'll be a hero! Bruce.Wayne

8:34pm Wed 18 Dec 13

cliff46 says...

I was sorry to see Zola leave but I am pleased to see us employing some good experienced coaches.
It will be interesting to see if John Marks gets to interview the new man after the game on Saturday.
I am very supportive of the Pozzo's because they obviously saved us fron Baz as well as certain administration and relegation.
I hate the thought that that horrible man is enjoying watching our recent situation and hope the new man turns things round reasonably quickly..

It was said recently that Zola always made the final decision re player signings which I found a little dubious, following on from that I wonder if Duxbury made the final decision regarding the new coach's appointment?
I strongly doubt it.
However the Pozzo's are entitled to do whatever they wish with the club they own, it would just be interesting to know what the real situation is .
I was sorry to see Zola leave but I am pleased to see us employing some good experienced coaches. It will be interesting to see if John Marks gets to interview the new man after the game on Saturday. I am very supportive of the Pozzo's because they obviously saved us fron Baz as well as certain administration and relegation. I hate the thought that that horrible man is enjoying watching our recent situation and hope the new man turns things round reasonably quickly.. It was said recently that Zola always made the final decision re player signings which I found a little dubious, following on from that I wonder if Duxbury made the final decision regarding the new coach's appointment? I strongly doubt it. However the Pozzo's are entitled to do whatever they wish with the club they own, it would just be interesting to know what the real situation is . cliff46

9:08pm Wed 18 Dec 13

longcliffe says...

I see your new manager has had 15 appointments since 1996.
I can't see this Non-English speaking Italian lasting too long, only until you're in League One.
I see your new manager has had 15 appointments since 1996. I can't see this Non-English speaking Italian lasting too long, only until you're in League One. longcliffe

9:17pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Bruce.Wayne says...

longcliffe wrote:
I see your new manager has had 15 appointments since 1996.
I can't see this Non-English speaking Italian lasting too long, only until you're in League One.
Tw@t. That ain't gonna happen this year, next year, or any time soon.
[quote][p][bold]longcliffe[/bold] wrote: I see your new manager has had 15 appointments since 1996. I can't see this Non-English speaking Italian lasting too long, only until you're in League One.[/p][/quote]Tw@t. That ain't gonna happen this year, next year, or any time soon. Bruce.Wayne

9:23pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Big Cliff was King says...

Boosey wrote:
Poppet Bear wrote:
Where have all the "in the Pozzo's we trust" mob gone ????
I'm still here!
And here.
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poppet Bear[/bold] wrote: Where have all the "in the Pozzo's we trust" mob gone ????[/p][/quote]I'm still here![/p][/quote]And here. Big Cliff was King

9:30pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Man from Pinner says...

Have to give the new guy a chance and support him and the team. just disappointed he must have been approached before GZ resigned. This is disrespectful; as acknowledged by all GZ is a gentleman and deserved better. Begs the question whether he resigned or was encouraged to do so.
Have to give the new guy a chance and support him and the team. just disappointed he must have been approached before GZ resigned. This is disrespectful; as acknowledged by all GZ is a gentleman and deserved better. Begs the question whether he resigned or was encouraged to do so. Man from Pinner

9:38pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Necrophiliac Hornet says...

This guy is going to be a legend. Just wait and see.
This guy is going to be a legend. Just wait and see. Necrophiliac Hornet

9:40pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Larrythe Loafer 'Orn says...

I am ju,st amazed at. Some of the comments on here about. ' can't succeed with championship experience.,'


Ehere have these people been? Lets go backwards, Sean Dyche, Malky Mackey, Brendan Rodgers Aidy Boothroyd, Ray Lewington, Graham Taylor , how many. Of them had proven championship experience -answer NONE.

I suppose we should have appointed a manager with championship experience who had been sacked by another. Club because he couldn't produce the results. Madness.

GZ was a nice man but. Lost without his number t wo who was the tactician. Guess what ? He is being touted as the next WBA manager having failed at Watford. The Pozzos are not idiots and by. The looks of it had already sounded out the successor and GZ jumped before he was pushed and it coincided with two vacancies becoming available. Give them a chance to fulfill the Pozzos plan and reach the Premiership this year or next. COYH
I am ju,st amazed at. Some of the comments on here about. ' can't succeed with championship experience.,' Ehere have these people been? Lets go backwards, Sean Dyche, Malky Mackey, Brendan Rodgers Aidy Boothroyd, Ray Lewington, Graham Taylor , how many. Of them had proven championship experience -answer NONE. I suppose we should have appointed a manager with championship experience who had been sacked by another. Club because he couldn't produce the results. Madness. GZ was a nice man but. Lost without his number t wo who was the tactician. Guess what ? He is being touted as the next WBA manager having failed at Watford. The Pozzos are not idiots and by. The looks of it had already sounded out the successor and GZ jumped before he was pushed and it coincided with two vacancies becoming available. Give them a chance to fulfill the Pozzos plan and reach the Premiership this year or next. COYH Larrythe Loafer 'Orn

9:48pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Vet_kills_puppy says...

Predictions for Saturday:
1. Dipsh#t score first, early on.
2. We equalize on the stroke of half-time, amazingly a headed goal from a corner.
3. Five minutes into the second half we go 2-1 up.
4. We are under the cosh for the rest of the second half.
5. With three minutes left we counter-attack and make it 3-1.
6. The Watford fans sing "Gianfranco, Sannino, we're going on the vino" non-stop until the ref blows the final whistle.
Keep the Faith
VKP
Predictions for Saturday: 1. Dipsh#t score first, early on. 2. We equalize on the stroke of half-time, amazingly a headed goal from a corner. 3. Five minutes into the second half we go 2-1 up. 4. We are under the cosh for the rest of the second half. 5. With three minutes left we counter-attack and make it 3-1. 6. The Watford fans sing "Gianfranco, Sannino, we're going on the vino" non-stop until the ref blows the final whistle. Keep the Faith VKP Vet_kills_puppy

10:05pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SAHornet says...

Man from Pinner wrote:
Have to give the new guy a chance and support him and the team. just disappointed he must have been approached before GZ resigned. This is disrespectful; as acknowledged by all GZ is a gentleman and deserved better. Begs the question whether he resigned or was encouraged to do so.
Did you ever consider that, just possibly, this guy was originally approached to be GZ's second in command and to help out with the defence, just like the majority of us were asking for? Perhaps GZ said that he didn't want help and resigned accordingly.
[quote][p][bold]Man from Pinner[/bold] wrote: Have to give the new guy a chance and support him and the team. just disappointed he must have been approached before GZ resigned. This is disrespectful; as acknowledged by all GZ is a gentleman and deserved better. Begs the question whether he resigned or was encouraged to do so.[/p][/quote]Did you ever consider that, just possibly, this guy was originally approached to be GZ's second in command and to help out with the defence, just like the majority of us were asking for? Perhaps GZ said that he didn't want help and resigned accordingly. SAHornet

10:26pm Wed 18 Dec 13

KeithMercer says...

Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Nice one Boosey !
Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day. KeithMercer

10:32pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote: Ode to Sannino He came from the land of pasta, He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta, We met Sir Pozzo, And thought “I’ll have a go”, And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way). It reached May next year, And the Pozzos they shed some tears, For Watford went up, And they won the FA Cup, And all the Warbler could do was snear. Sannino had a chat with our Loydy, He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”. LD scored 10 goals, He scored against the Poles, As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy. I Thank You HC
Does no-one like my poetry? I shall have to write another one...
My next one is called "How much is that Deeney in the Window"...
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Ode to Sannino He came from the land of pasta, He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta, We met Sir Pozzo, And thought “I’ll have a go”, And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way). It reached May next year, And the Pozzos they shed some tears, For Watford went up, And they won the FA Cup, And all the Warbler could do was snear. Sannino had a chat with our Loydy, He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”. LD scored 10 goals, He scored against the Poles, As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy. I Thank You HC[/p][/quote]Does no-one like my poetry? I shall have to write another one...[/p][/quote]My next one is called "How much is that Deeney in the Window"... Hornet Cornet

10:34pm Wed 18 Dec 13

KeithMercer says...

lutondown wrote:
SimmyB wrote:
He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!!
No ones as ugly as Holloway except Holloways dad who lurks in a West Country field with a stake up his jacksy and is the Bain of all crows
Good to see you back LD and very funny post !!
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimmyB[/bold] wrote: He also looks a cross between Kevin Phillips and Ian Holloway!!![/p][/quote]No ones as ugly as Holloway except Holloways dad who lurks in a West Country field with a stake up his jacksy and is the Bain of all crows[/p][/quote]Good to see you back LD and very funny post !! KeithMercer

10:45pm Wed 18 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

KeithMercer wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Nice one Boosey !
Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.
Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?
[quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.[/p][/quote]Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates? watfordrick

11:09pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Mr Dactyl says...

No experience in English football, crap record in Italy apart from the equivalent of League 2/Conference level...hope he does well or we might be playing nearer his level next season in League 1!!!
No experience in English football, crap record in Italy apart from the equivalent of League 2/Conference level...hope he does well or we might be playing nearer his level next season in League 1!!! Mr Dactyl

11:48pm Wed 18 Dec 13

DazzyD says...

The Posso`s are not going to make a stupid appointment - they have also had a taste of Championship experience now and will have brought in the right man based on what they have seen,
also lets hope the new manager can add a different dimension to the division (like Zola did first season) bring in a few signings and shore up the defense and get back on track towards the Play-offs - with a solid team winning games achieving the play offs will be a breeze.
Onwards and upwards!
The Posso`s are not going to make a stupid appointment - they have also had a taste of Championship experience now and will have brought in the right man based on what they have seen, also lets hope the new manager can add a different dimension to the division (like Zola did first season) bring in a few signings and shore up the defense and get back on track towards the Play-offs - with a solid team winning games achieving the play offs will be a breeze. Onwards and upwards! DazzyD

11:51pm Wed 18 Dec 13

the jesterwestport says...

got fed up reading half these comments so negative rubbish being spouted out, hard facts is gfz resigned on mon replaced tue evening by an unknown quantity but he was replaced by the pozzos who have given us a fantastic 17 odd months . they have proven their football savy with what they did withe udinese champions lge etc, theyve proven with savy with what they did wih granada up to tenth now in la liga and i believe they are doing quite a good job here too. play off finals etc . weve some winable games coming up this new brush will i believe sweep clean (or so the saying goes) . a clean slate where all players are now fighting for their place!!!! LOVED ZOLA BUT IN POZZOS I TRUST
got fed up reading half these comments so negative rubbish being spouted out, hard facts is gfz resigned on mon replaced tue evening by an unknown quantity but he was replaced by the pozzos who have given us a fantastic 17 odd months . they have proven their football savy with what they did withe udinese champions lge etc, theyve proven with savy with what they did wih granada up to tenth now in la liga and i believe they are doing quite a good job here too. play off finals etc . weve some winable games coming up this new brush will i believe sweep clean (or so the saying goes) . a clean slate where all players are now fighting for their place!!!! LOVED ZOLA BUT IN POZZOS I TRUST the jesterwestport

12:09am Thu 19 Dec 13

micksolly says...

Bruce.Wayne wrote:
longcliffe wrote:
I see your new manager has had 15 appointments since 1996.
I can't see this Non-English speaking Italian lasting too long, only until you're in League One.
Tw@t. That ain't gonna happen this year, next year, or any time soon.
You always get one I just don't understand people who do not support Watford have to make comments on the WFC site. It's a bit sad really and perhaps is intended as a wind up, basically get a life!
[quote][p][bold]Bruce.Wayne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longcliffe[/bold] wrote: I see your new manager has had 15 appointments since 1996. I can't see this Non-English speaking Italian lasting too long, only until you're in League One.[/p][/quote]Tw@t. That ain't gonna happen this year, next year, or any time soon.[/p][/quote]You always get one I just don't understand people who do not support Watford have to make comments on the WFC site. It's a bit sad really and perhaps is intended as a wind up, basically get a life! micksolly

6:40am Thu 19 Dec 13

rowlingstone says...

Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me.
Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me. rowlingstone

6:57am Thu 19 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote: Ode to Sannino He came from the land of pasta, He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta, We met Sir Pozzo, And thought “I’ll have a go”, And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way). It reached May next year, And the Pozzos they shed some tears, For Watford went up, And they won the FA Cup, And all the Warbler could do was snear. Sannino had a chat with our Loydy, He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”. LD scored 10 goals, He scored against the Poles, As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy. I Thank You HC
Does no-one like my poetry? I shall have to write another one...
My next one is called "How much is that Deeney in the Window"...
That's the first time you've been funny for ages, HC. ;)
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Ode to Sannino He came from the land of pasta, He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta, We met Sir Pozzo, And thought “I’ll have a go”, And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way). It reached May next year, And the Pozzos they shed some tears, For Watford went up, And they won the FA Cup, And all the Warbler could do was snear. Sannino had a chat with our Loydy, He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”. LD scored 10 goals, He scored against the Poles, As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy. I Thank You HC[/p][/quote]Does no-one like my poetry? I shall have to write another one...[/p][/quote]My next one is called "How much is that Deeney in the Window"...[/p][/quote]That's the first time you've been funny for ages, HC. ;) mellow yellow

7:02am Thu 19 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

rowlingstone wrote:
Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me.
They are professionals. How many managers has Doyley had?! If anyone is the continuum at this club, it is he. Perhaps this man will bring in fresh ideas. Perhaps the players will adapt and thrive. Some will. Some won't. It is highly naive to assume they will leave just because they have a new boss. Or do you leave a job every time your boss changes?
[quote][p][bold]rowlingstone[/bold] wrote: Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me.[/p][/quote]They are professionals. How many managers has Doyley had?! If anyone is the continuum at this club, it is he. Perhaps this man will bring in fresh ideas. Perhaps the players will adapt and thrive. Some will. Some won't. It is highly naive to assume they will leave just because they have a new boss. Or do you leave a job every time your boss changes? mellow yellow

7:23am Thu 19 Dec 13

rowlingstone says...

mellow yellow wrote:
rowlingstone wrote:
Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me.
They are professionals. How many managers has Doyley had?! If anyone is the continuum at this club, it is he. Perhaps this man will bring in fresh ideas. Perhaps the players will adapt and thrive. Some will. Some won't. It is highly naive to assume they will leave just because they have a new boss. Or do you leave a job every time your boss changes?
Mellow Yellow, you missed my point. Of course players shouldn't leave when a new manager comes in as you are right, they are professionals but my thoughts are that the manner in which the appointment was made sends the wrong message to the players. Normally clubs interview several candidates and take some time, well at least a week or two. Having Zola in one day, a new manager within a few days I personally think is too quick. However having said that, maybe the players knew in advance hence why recent performances had dropped???
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rowlingstone[/bold] wrote: Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me.[/p][/quote]They are professionals. How many managers has Doyley had?! If anyone is the continuum at this club, it is he. Perhaps this man will bring in fresh ideas. Perhaps the players will adapt and thrive. Some will. Some won't. It is highly naive to assume they will leave just because they have a new boss. Or do you leave a job every time your boss changes?[/p][/quote]Mellow Yellow, you missed my point. Of course players shouldn't leave when a new manager comes in as you are right, they are professionals but my thoughts are that the manner in which the appointment was made sends the wrong message to the players. Normally clubs interview several candidates and take some time, well at least a week or two. Having Zola in one day, a new manager within a few days I personally think is too quick. However having said that, maybe the players knew in advance hence why recent performances had dropped??? rowlingstone

8:00am Thu 19 Dec 13

akureyri says...

Aidy Boothroyd, Malky Mackay, Brendan, Rodgers, Sean Dyche and even Graham Taylor were unknowns when they arrived ar Watford and look what they achieved, OK so AB is not doing so well now. Giuseppe Sannini deserves to be given a chance, and the contract is for only six months anyway. The Pozzos, as stated earlier in this list of comments, are not going to jeopardise their project by employing someone the think is not up to the job.
Aidy Boothroyd, Malky Mackay, Brendan, Rodgers, Sean Dyche and even Graham Taylor were unknowns when they arrived ar Watford and look what they achieved, OK so AB is not doing so well now. Giuseppe Sannini deserves to be given a chance, and the contract is for only six months anyway. The Pozzos, as stated earlier in this list of comments, are not going to jeopardise their project by employing someone the think is not up to the job. akureyri

8:14am Thu 19 Dec 13

chitster says...

Is Watford FC beginning to lose it's identity? I for one thinks it is becoming Udinesse UK FC. I miss the old Watford (not Bassini etc of course).
Is Watford FC beginning to lose it's identity? I for one thinks it is becoming Udinesse UK FC. I miss the old Watford (not Bassini etc of course). chitster

8:55am Thu 19 Dec 13

northofwatfordpete says...

Saturday's team selection should be very interesting.
Saturday's team selection should be very interesting. northofwatfordpete

9:17am Thu 19 Dec 13

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
Ode to Sannino

He came from the land of pasta,
He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta,
We met Sir Pozzo,
And thought “I’ll have a go”,
And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way).

It reached May next year,
And the Pozzos they shed some tears,
For Watford went up,
And they won the FA Cup,
And all the Warbler could do was snear.

Sannino had a chat with our Loydy,
He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”.
LD scored 10 goals,
He scored against the Poles,
As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy.


I Thank You

HC
Does no-one like my poetry? I shall have to write another one...
no, you're a ****
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: Ode to Sannino He came from the land of pasta, He’s bald, he ain’t no rasta, We met Sir Pozzo, And thought “I’ll have a go”, And he sorted the defence with a plaster (pronounced in the northern way). It reached May next year, And the Pozzos they shed some tears, For Watford went up, And they won the FA Cup, And all the Warbler could do was snear. Sannino had a chat with our Loydy, He said “LD don’t be paranoidy”. LD scored 10 goals, He scored against the Poles, As Jamaica won 2018 in the Russian coldy. I Thank You HC[/p][/quote]Does no-one like my poetry? I shall have to write another one...[/p][/quote]no, you're a **** Mickey Quinn, not so thin

9:21am Thu 19 Dec 13

ChrisG85 says...

Looking at the factors presented in this appointment of Sannino, and his staff, this could have been in the pipeline for a couple of weeks/a week at least. Zola may have offered his resignaton up a few games before but stayed in place until a replacement was ready to come in with a team of backroom staff and hit the ground running. As for the club losing its identity, whilst it isn't what it used to be, we've had a makeover and changed our appearance on the surface. I still feel i support Watford, the club still feels the same to me and I still head to Vicarage Road. This is part of a new era in Watford FC. Change was needed to move us away from the brink of administration. The difference between our owners and other foriegn owners is that they aren't after a quick financial return which is good for us as the fans.

If they feel Sannino is the man to be head-coach then I will trust them on that. After all, I am sure they will know more about the guy than a few repeated articles in the media. We've always taken risks, why change that?
Looking at the factors presented in this appointment of Sannino, and his staff, this could have been in the pipeline for a couple of weeks/a week at least. Zola may have offered his resignaton up a few games before but stayed in place until a replacement was ready to come in with a team of backroom staff and hit the ground running. As for the club losing its identity, whilst it isn't what it used to be, we've had a makeover and changed our appearance on the surface. I still feel i support Watford, the club still feels the same to me and I still head to Vicarage Road. This is part of a new era in Watford FC. Change was needed to move us away from the brink of administration. The difference between our owners and other foriegn owners is that they aren't after a quick financial return which is good for us as the fans. If they feel Sannino is the man to be head-coach then I will trust them on that. After all, I am sure they will know more about the guy than a few repeated articles in the media. We've always taken risks, why change that? ChrisG85

9:51am Thu 19 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

rowlingstone wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
rowlingstone wrote:
Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me.
They are professionals. How many managers has Doyley had?! If anyone is the continuum at this club, it is he. Perhaps this man will bring in fresh ideas. Perhaps the players will adapt and thrive. Some will. Some won't. It is highly naive to assume they will leave just because they have a new boss. Or do you leave a job every time your boss changes?
Mellow Yellow, you missed my point. Of course players shouldn't leave when a new manager comes in as you are right, they are professionals but my thoughts are that the manner in which the appointment was made sends the wrong message to the players. Normally clubs interview several candidates and take some time, well at least a week or two. Having Zola in one day, a new manager within a few days I personally think is too quick. However having said that, maybe the players knew in advance hence why recent performances had dropped???
But you are dealing with unknowns. As am I. Unless you know the players, especially the 'promising English players', and have some insight into their feelings right now, all you are observing is pure conjecture. It's as meaningful as assuming half of them thought Zola was naive and defensively inept and a glad a new man has arrived.
[quote][p][bold]rowlingstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rowlingstone[/bold] wrote: Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me.[/p][/quote]They are professionals. How many managers has Doyley had?! If anyone is the continuum at this club, it is he. Perhaps this man will bring in fresh ideas. Perhaps the players will adapt and thrive. Some will. Some won't. It is highly naive to assume they will leave just because they have a new boss. Or do you leave a job every time your boss changes?[/p][/quote]Mellow Yellow, you missed my point. Of course players shouldn't leave when a new manager comes in as you are right, they are professionals but my thoughts are that the manner in which the appointment was made sends the wrong message to the players. Normally clubs interview several candidates and take some time, well at least a week or two. Having Zola in one day, a new manager within a few days I personally think is too quick. However having said that, maybe the players knew in advance hence why recent performances had dropped???[/p][/quote]But you are dealing with unknowns. As am I. Unless you know the players, especially the 'promising English players', and have some insight into their feelings right now, all you are observing is pure conjecture. It's as meaningful as assuming half of them thought Zola was naive and defensively inept and a glad a new man has arrived. mellow yellow

11:13am Thu 19 Dec 13

Veally01 says...

Into the unknown once more then, fellow Hornets. Having followed Watford for over 40 years this is now the most uncertain time I can remember but I am more positive about it than negative as there is no evidence that I can assimilate to suggest otherwise - no Management team is going to deliberately recruit a failure!!

I believe that we have as talented and skilful a squad as there is in this division and very much hope that the new manager and his cohorts can get them back to the sort of form and performances we all were thrilled and excited by for the whole (or most?!!) of last season. Confidence in professional sportspeople is a fickle thing and regardless of the reverence and respect GFZ was and is held in as a player, there are still gaps in his management abilities which he has been big enough to acknowledge. Maybe the new guy is a classic example of a relatively low achiever (as a player) who has the more essential attributes necessary to translate ideas and theories into a successful end product - familiar idea to us? GT? AB? SD? MM?

Anyway. We have a busy period coming up and a baptism of fire for the team. I hope we can get behind them as a collective support unit as we all have the same ultimate ideals I would imagine; a good result in the Fens on Saturday, and then 4 or six points from Millwall and QPR might have us all becoming converts although that might be too much to hope for!!?
Into the unknown once more then, fellow Hornets. Having followed Watford for over 40 years this is now the most uncertain time I can remember but I am more positive about it than negative as there is no evidence that I can assimilate to suggest otherwise - no Management team is going to deliberately recruit a failure!! I believe that we have as talented and skilful a squad as there is in this division and very much hope that the new manager and his cohorts can get them back to the sort of form and performances we all were thrilled and excited by for the whole (or most?!!) of last season. Confidence in professional sportspeople is a fickle thing and regardless of the reverence and respect GFZ was and is held in as a player, there are still gaps in his management abilities which he has been big enough to acknowledge. Maybe the new guy is a classic example of a relatively low achiever (as a player) who has the more essential attributes necessary to translate ideas and theories into a successful end product - familiar idea to us? GT? AB? SD? MM? Anyway. We have a busy period coming up and a baptism of fire for the team. I hope we can get behind them as a collective support unit as we all have the same ultimate ideals I would imagine; a good result in the Fens on Saturday, and then 4 or six points from Millwall and QPR might have us all becoming converts although that might be too much to hope for!!? Veally01

11:22am Thu 19 Dec 13

CaptainPC says...

Itr's one of them isn't it?

I hope we do get relegated and the Italians slope off. Bassini was a bit of a twonk but at least he was English and could point out Watford on a map....

The Ponzis chose Watford because it was near to Harry Potter world....
Itr's one of them isn't it? I hope we do get relegated and the Italians slope off. Bassini was a bit of a twonk but at least he was English and could point out Watford on a map.... The Ponzis chose Watford because it was near to Harry Potter world.... CaptainPC

11:26am Thu 19 Dec 13

Boosey says...

watfordrick wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote: I think its great that many of you are positive with the new appointment. All clubs need these type of fans that are willing to happily follow along with the owners and will support the club through thick and thin. I am Watford fan and have been all my life admittedly some seasons more committed than others (not the premiership ones though I didn't seem to enjoy those). I've been quite a lot this season though not all games and its my choice. Sometimes if we are losing heavily and playing badly I leave and go somewhere else after all its my time and money - sometimes I sit in the bar for the whole of the second half. I know leaving early upsets alot of the diehards but I think its my time and I wanna decent pint so why should they care. I'm disappointed with the choice of manager and hope I'm wrong but I think I have the right to be disappointed and I think I have the right to voice it. What I am saying is including myself not all fans will go week in week out if they lose interest!
You are entitled to sit on your own supping what you call a decent beer, I certainly wouldn't call any beer in the ground decent. Why don't you join me and the other mugs in the West Herts Club before the game and have a decent beer in decent company and I will prove I am not a hooligan. P.S. The last time I looked you had 88 thumbs down on your first post, that post is the reason why I slated you.
I leave the ground to have a beer Boosey - Ok maybe I'll join you - will you sign me in?
Not a problem, you're welcome anytime.
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: I think its great that many of you are positive with the new appointment. All clubs need these type of fans that are willing to happily follow along with the owners and will support the club through thick and thin. I am Watford fan and have been all my life admittedly some seasons more committed than others (not the premiership ones though I didn't seem to enjoy those). I've been quite a lot this season though not all games and its my choice. Sometimes if we are losing heavily and playing badly I leave and go somewhere else after all its my time and money - sometimes I sit in the bar for the whole of the second half. I know leaving early upsets alot of the diehards but I think its my time and I wanna decent pint so why should they care. I'm disappointed with the choice of manager and hope I'm wrong but I think I have the right to be disappointed and I think I have the right to voice it. What I am saying is including myself not all fans will go week in week out if they lose interest![/p][/quote]You are entitled to sit on your own supping what you call a decent beer, I certainly wouldn't call any beer in the ground decent. Why don't you join me and the other mugs in the West Herts Club before the game and have a decent beer in decent company and I will prove I am not a hooligan. P.S. The last time I looked you had 88 thumbs down on your first post, that post is the reason why I slated you.[/p][/quote]I leave the ground to have a beer Boosey - Ok maybe I'll join you - will you sign me in?[/p][/quote]Not a problem, you're welcome anytime. Boosey

11:36am Thu 19 Dec 13

Boosey says...

watfordrick wrote:
KeithMercer wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.
Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?
No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up!
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.[/p][/quote]Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?[/p][/quote]No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up! Boosey

11:37am Thu 19 Dec 13

londomollari says...

Well, I go away for a few days, come back, and look what's happened. Can't leave you lot alone for a minute!
Most has been said already, but just a few personal comments.
Warnock (as unpleasant as it may be) said, some time ago, that a manager cannot be judged on his ability until we see how he deals with a crisis. Well, GZ met a crisis and, it appears from the interview after the SW match, he metaphorically threw his hands into the air and said he didn't know what to do.
Old boys with 50 years of Watford, like myself, Lutondown and so on, may not make good managers, or even be great judges of players, but we have seen managers of all levels of ability. We KNOW when a manager is struggling. And as likeable and as honourable a man as Zola is----he was struggling. In retrospect, the signs were there at the end of last season, but certainly I ignored them, and entered this season with unjustified optimism. I should have followed my gut instincts.
The approach to the new coach days before Zola's resignation showed that the Pozzo's, like most of us on here, certainly knew the coaching back-up to Zola was not good enough. Further, such an approach made Zola's position untenable---and indicated to him his time was coming to an end. As I've posted on here before, the Pozzo's are not patient men---I expected them to act in January, but the SW result was so bad---. The speed of appointment of the new guys says it all---moves were already being made.
I know nothing about the new guys---let's give 'em a chance, please.
I spoke to my Italian friends--- they feel the new guy is very much a temporary measure. They regard him as a competent pair of hands who will keep the club out of relegation trouble and 'steady the ship'. He is reputed to be a good coach, if, possibly, not so good a manager. He is, perhaps, the type of guy someone puts in to cover until a quality man is available, knowing that he will do a competent, steady job.
Well, I go away for a few days, come back, and look what's happened. Can't leave you lot alone for a minute! Most has been said already, but just a few personal comments. Warnock (as unpleasant as it may be) said, some time ago, that a manager cannot be judged on his ability until we see how he deals with a crisis. Well, GZ met a crisis and, it appears from the interview after the SW match, he metaphorically threw his hands into the air and said he didn't know what to do. Old boys with 50 years of Watford, like myself, Lutondown and so on, may not make good managers, or even be great judges of players, but we have seen managers of all levels of ability. We KNOW when a manager is struggling. And as likeable and as honourable a man as Zola is----he was struggling. In retrospect, the signs were there at the end of last season, but certainly I ignored them, and entered this season with unjustified optimism. I should have followed my gut instincts. The approach to the new coach days before Zola's resignation showed that the Pozzo's, like most of us on here, certainly knew the coaching back-up to Zola was not good enough. Further, such an approach made Zola's position untenable---and indicated to him his time was coming to an end. As I've posted on here before, the Pozzo's are not patient men---I expected them to act in January, but the SW result was so bad---. The speed of appointment of the new guys says it all---moves were already being made. I know nothing about the new guys---let's give 'em a chance, please. I spoke to my Italian friends--- they feel the new guy is very much a temporary measure. They regard him as a competent pair of hands who will keep the club out of relegation trouble and 'steady the ship'. He is reputed to be a good coach, if, possibly, not so good a manager. He is, perhaps, the type of guy someone puts in to cover until a quality man is available, knowing that he will do a competent, steady job. londomollari

11:49am Thu 19 Dec 13

SAHornet says...

the jesterwestport wrote:
got fed up reading half these comments so negative rubbish being spouted out, hard facts is gfz resigned on mon replaced tue evening by an unknown quantity but he was replaced by the pozzos who have given us a fantastic 17 odd months . they have proven their football savy with what they did withe udinese champions lge etc, theyve proven with savy with what they did wih granada up to tenth now in la liga and i believe they are doing quite a good job here too. play off finals etc . weve some winable games coming up this new brush will i believe sweep clean (or so the saying goes) . a clean slate where all players are now fighting for their place!!!! LOVED ZOLA BUT IN POZZOS I TRUST
Jester, your posts are worth reading for their insightful content but can't you just take the little bit of extra time to punctuate, add capitals etc etc. They take so long to read otherwise and like the first sentence of your post, I just get fed-up trying to understand what you are saying.
[quote][p][bold]the jesterwestport[/bold] wrote: got fed up reading half these comments so negative rubbish being spouted out, hard facts is gfz resigned on mon replaced tue evening by an unknown quantity but he was replaced by the pozzos who have given us a fantastic 17 odd months . they have proven their football savy with what they did withe udinese champions lge etc, theyve proven with savy with what they did wih granada up to tenth now in la liga and i believe they are doing quite a good job here too. play off finals etc . weve some winable games coming up this new brush will i believe sweep clean (or so the saying goes) . a clean slate where all players are now fighting for their place!!!! LOVED ZOLA BUT IN POZZOS I TRUST[/p][/quote]Jester, your posts are worth reading for their insightful content but can't you just take the little bit of extra time to punctuate, add capitals etc etc. They take so long to read otherwise and like the first sentence of your post, I just get fed-up trying to understand what you are saying. SAHornet

11:50am Thu 19 Dec 13

londomollari says...

mellow yellow wrote:
rowlingstone wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
rowlingstone wrote:
Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me.
They are professionals. How many managers has Doyley had?! If anyone is the continuum at this club, it is he. Perhaps this man will bring in fresh ideas. Perhaps the players will adapt and thrive. Some will. Some won't. It is highly naive to assume they will leave just because they have a new boss. Or do you leave a job every time your boss changes?
Mellow Yellow, you missed my point. Of course players shouldn't leave when a new manager comes in as you are right, they are professionals but my thoughts are that the manner in which the appointment was made sends the wrong message to the players. Normally clubs interview several candidates and take some time, well at least a week or two. Having Zola in one day, a new manager within a few days I personally think is too quick. However having said that, maybe the players knew in advance hence why recent performances had dropped???
But you are dealing with unknowns. As am I. Unless you know the players, especially the 'promising English players', and have some insight into their feelings right now, all you are observing is pure conjecture. It's as meaningful as assuming half of them thought Zola was naive and defensively inept and a glad a new man has arrived.
They are professional players. Only real hotheads will slap in transfer requests in January---or players who know, and dislike, the new man. Any real unrest will resolve itself at season's end, or from players who find themselves ignored and playing with the also-rans. The impression I have, from my Italian friends, is that this guy will not take dressing room unrest. That may not be a bad thing.
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rowlingstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rowlingstone[/bold] wrote: Ok, give the guy a chance but I am seriously concerned. Imagine being one of the WFC players right now and how deflated they must feel. Especially our promising English players. I can honestly see an exodus of players either handing in transfer requests or leaving in Jan. I hope I am wrong and it is a success but this is what my gut feeling is telling me.[/p][/quote]They are professionals. How many managers has Doyley had?! If anyone is the continuum at this club, it is he. Perhaps this man will bring in fresh ideas. Perhaps the players will adapt and thrive. Some will. Some won't. It is highly naive to assume they will leave just because they have a new boss. Or do you leave a job every time your boss changes?[/p][/quote]Mellow Yellow, you missed my point. Of course players shouldn't leave when a new manager comes in as you are right, they are professionals but my thoughts are that the manner in which the appointment was made sends the wrong message to the players. Normally clubs interview several candidates and take some time, well at least a week or two. Having Zola in one day, a new manager within a few days I personally think is too quick. However having said that, maybe the players knew in advance hence why recent performances had dropped???[/p][/quote]But you are dealing with unknowns. As am I. Unless you know the players, especially the 'promising English players', and have some insight into their feelings right now, all you are observing is pure conjecture. It's as meaningful as assuming half of them thought Zola was naive and defensively inept and a glad a new man has arrived.[/p][/quote]They are professional players. Only real hotheads will slap in transfer requests in January---or players who know, and dislike, the new man. Any real unrest will resolve itself at season's end, or from players who find themselves ignored and playing with the also-rans. The impression I have, from my Italian friends, is that this guy will not take dressing room unrest. That may not be a bad thing. londomollari

12:07pm Thu 19 Dec 13

jasonwatford says...

A few facts for you as I'm getting bored with some of this did they approach etc ?? Zola had a meeting with Gino Pozzo after the Yeovil game and handed his resignation....this was refused by Mr Pozzo. They had a discussion and Zola was asked to sack 2 backroom members of staff and they would help by getting 3/4 new members in to help him with the training , After a day Zola refused to sack anyone and agreed he would stay on until they had sorted a replacement as they had a game at Burnley on the Tuesday evening followed by Leeds on the Saturday , The pozzo went looking and after the Leeds game Zola was again asked to stay and sack the backroom staff for new people the pozzo had found. Again Zola refused to do this and after the Sheff Wed game he was told they would now accept his resignation as they didn't want to sack him. This shows class on both sides I think. Sannino has brought in 4 members and one of those is to work soley on defence. Yes he does speak English to a certain fashion and he and his team will be going to English lessons just as all the players have been doing. Some people will read this and have their own thoughts others including some that know me will know this is what happened. So onwards and upwards and lets all just buckle up and start the next ride
A few facts for you as I'm getting bored with some of this did they approach etc ?? Zola had a meeting with Gino Pozzo after the Yeovil game and handed his resignation....this was refused by Mr Pozzo. They had a discussion and Zola was asked to sack 2 backroom members of staff and they would help by getting 3/4 new members in to help him with the training , After a day Zola refused to sack anyone and agreed he would stay on until they had sorted a replacement as they had a game at Burnley on the Tuesday evening followed by Leeds on the Saturday , The pozzo went looking and after the Leeds game Zola was again asked to stay and sack the backroom staff for new people the pozzo had found. Again Zola refused to do this and after the Sheff Wed game he was told they would now accept his resignation as they didn't want to sack him. This shows class on both sides I think. Sannino has brought in 4 members and one of those is to work soley on defence. Yes he does speak English to a certain fashion and he and his team will be going to English lessons just as all the players have been doing. Some people will read this and have their own thoughts others including some that know me will know this is what happened. So onwards and upwards and lets all just buckle up and start the next ride jasonwatford

1:08pm Thu 19 Dec 13

soulfulhornet says...

jasonwatford wrote:
A few facts for you as I'm getting bored with some of this did they approach etc ?? Zola had a meeting with Gino Pozzo after the Yeovil game and handed his resignation....this was refused by Mr Pozzo. They had a discussion and Zola was asked to sack 2 backroom members of staff and they would help by getting 3/4 new members in to help him with the training , After a day Zola refused to sack anyone and agreed he would stay on until they had sorted a replacement as they had a game at Burnley on the Tuesday evening followed by Leeds on the Saturday , The pozzo went looking and after the Leeds game Zola was again asked to stay and sack the backroom staff for new people the pozzo had found. Again Zola refused to do this and after the Sheff Wed game he was told they would now accept his resignation as they didn't want to sack him. This shows class on both sides I think. Sannino has brought in 4 members and one of those is to work soley on defence. Yes he does speak English to a certain fashion and he and his team will be going to English lessons just as all the players have been doing. Some people will read this and have their own thoughts others including some that know me will know this is what happened. So onwards and upwards and lets all just buckle up and start the next ride
Great summary. Sounds plausible, Jason, and I don't know you. Given Zola's demeanour/ press comments after recent games, I don't think any of us were that surprised by Monday's events. What you say is not only plausible, but logical and fits in with perceptions of how the Pozzos operate and Zola's integrity.

Regardless of our views on Zola (+ or -), there were certain coaching failings esp this season, but also last - for example the lack of defensive organisation at corners/ free kicks or the ineffectiveness of our corners since Abdi's injury.

Even in the Prem let alone the Championship, a high % of goals are scored or conceded at set pieces. You are giving yourself a mountain to climb if you are poor in both boxes with them. This cannot be counteracted simply by playing good football unless you are Barcelona or Bayern Munich (they both have good defences however). Efficent teams are often described in the media as 'well organised' (i.e a bit boring), Zola's team could never be described as such.

If we can see the shortcomings I am sure Gino Pozzo and the other directors could too. The coaching appointments esp defensive you mention may have rectified these deficiencies, but you can see why Zola might not accept them as he would be become something of a figurehead/ PR manager rather than the real coach/ manager.

Expect the horns to be more organised, slightly less exciting but hopefully more successful this term.
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: A few facts for you as I'm getting bored with some of this did they approach etc ?? Zola had a meeting with Gino Pozzo after the Yeovil game and handed his resignation....this was refused by Mr Pozzo. They had a discussion and Zola was asked to sack 2 backroom members of staff and they would help by getting 3/4 new members in to help him with the training , After a day Zola refused to sack anyone and agreed he would stay on until they had sorted a replacement as they had a game at Burnley on the Tuesday evening followed by Leeds on the Saturday , The pozzo went looking and after the Leeds game Zola was again asked to stay and sack the backroom staff for new people the pozzo had found. Again Zola refused to do this and after the Sheff Wed game he was told they would now accept his resignation as they didn't want to sack him. This shows class on both sides I think. Sannino has brought in 4 members and one of those is to work soley on defence. Yes he does speak English to a certain fashion and he and his team will be going to English lessons just as all the players have been doing. Some people will read this and have their own thoughts others including some that know me will know this is what happened. So onwards and upwards and lets all just buckle up and start the next ride[/p][/quote]Great summary. Sounds plausible, Jason, and I don't know you. Given Zola's demeanour/ press comments after recent games, I don't think any of us were that surprised by Monday's events. What you say is not only plausible, but logical and fits in with perceptions of how the Pozzos operate and Zola's integrity. Regardless of our views on Zola (+ or -), there were certain coaching failings esp this season, but also last - for example the lack of defensive organisation at corners/ free kicks or the ineffectiveness of our corners since Abdi's injury. Even in the Prem let alone the Championship, a high % of goals are scored or conceded at set pieces. You are giving yourself a mountain to climb if you are poor in both boxes with them. This cannot be counteracted simply by playing good football unless you are Barcelona or Bayern Munich (they both have good defences however). Efficent teams are often described in the media as 'well organised' (i.e a bit boring), Zola's team could never be described as such. If we can see the shortcomings I am sure Gino Pozzo and the other directors could too. The coaching appointments esp defensive you mention may have rectified these deficiencies, but you can see why Zola might not accept them as he would be become something of a figurehead/ PR manager rather than the real coach/ manager. Expect the horns to be more organised, slightly less exciting but hopefully more successful this term. soulfulhornet

2:23pm Thu 19 Dec 13

lutondown says...

londomollari wrote:
Well, I go away for a few days, come back, and look what's happened. Can't leave you lot alone for a minute!
Most has been said already, but just a few personal comments.
Warnock (as unpleasant as it may be) said, some time ago, that a manager cannot be judged on his ability until we see how he deals with a crisis. Well, GZ met a crisis and, it appears from the interview after the SW match, he metaphorically threw his hands into the air and said he didn't know what to do.
Old boys with 50 years of Watford, like myself, Lutondown and so on, may not make good managers, or even be great judges of players, but we have seen managers of all levels of ability. We KNOW when a manager is struggling. And as likeable and as honourable a man as Zola is----he was struggling. In retrospect, the signs were there at the end of last season, but certainly I ignored them, and entered this season with unjustified optimism. I should have followed my gut instincts.
The approach to the new coach days before Zola's resignation showed that the Pozzo's, like most of us on here, certainly knew the coaching back-up to Zola was not good enough. Further, such an approach made Zola's position untenable---and indicated to him his time was coming to an end. As I've posted on here before, the Pozzo's are not patient men---I expected them to act in January, but the SW result was so bad---. The speed of appointment of the new guys says it all---moves were already being made.
I know nothing about the new guys---let's give 'em a chance, please.
I spoke to my Italian friends--- they feel the new guy is very much a temporary measure. They regard him as a competent pair of hands who will keep the club out of relegation trouble and 'steady the ship'. He is reputed to be a good coach, if, possibly, not so good a manager. He is, perhaps, the type of guy someone puts in to cover until a quality man is available, knowing that he will do a competent, steady job.
Great post LM!
[quote][p][bold]londomollari[/bold] wrote: Well, I go away for a few days, come back, and look what's happened. Can't leave you lot alone for a minute! Most has been said already, but just a few personal comments. Warnock (as unpleasant as it may be) said, some time ago, that a manager cannot be judged on his ability until we see how he deals with a crisis. Well, GZ met a crisis and, it appears from the interview after the SW match, he metaphorically threw his hands into the air and said he didn't know what to do. Old boys with 50 years of Watford, like myself, Lutondown and so on, may not make good managers, or even be great judges of players, but we have seen managers of all levels of ability. We KNOW when a manager is struggling. And as likeable and as honourable a man as Zola is----he was struggling. In retrospect, the signs were there at the end of last season, but certainly I ignored them, and entered this season with unjustified optimism. I should have followed my gut instincts. The approach to the new coach days before Zola's resignation showed that the Pozzo's, like most of us on here, certainly knew the coaching back-up to Zola was not good enough. Further, such an approach made Zola's position untenable---and indicated to him his time was coming to an end. As I've posted on here before, the Pozzo's are not patient men---I expected them to act in January, but the SW result was so bad---. The speed of appointment of the new guys says it all---moves were already being made. I know nothing about the new guys---let's give 'em a chance, please. I spoke to my Italian friends--- they feel the new guy is very much a temporary measure. They regard him as a competent pair of hands who will keep the club out of relegation trouble and 'steady the ship'. He is reputed to be a good coach, if, possibly, not so good a manager. He is, perhaps, the type of guy someone puts in to cover until a quality man is available, knowing that he will do a competent, steady job.[/p][/quote]Great post LM! lutondown

2:26pm Thu 19 Dec 13

lutondown says...

edhorn wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up.
Boosey is all grown up..he's even stopped wearing grey flannel shorts and winkle pickers...and Ed horn, lighten up...
[quote][p][bold]edhorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Sad that people aren't allowed to make a comment without someone like you reverting to abuse. Grow up.[/p][/quote]Boosey is all grown up..he's even stopped wearing grey flannel shorts and winkle pickers...and Ed horn, lighten up... lutondown

2:29pm Thu 19 Dec 13

lutondown says...

Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
KeithMercer wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.
Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?
No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up!
Well it'll be interesting if he joins us for a group hug on Boxing Day then! Love to see my old nemesis Harry's bra there, so we can show him we have left the caves ;)
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.[/p][/quote]Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?[/p][/quote]No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up![/p][/quote]Well it'll be interesting if he joins us for a group hug on Boxing Day then! Love to see my old nemesis Harry's bra there, so we can show him we have left the caves ;) lutondown

4:26pm Thu 19 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
KeithMercer wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.
Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?
No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up!
I can't wait Boosey. Hopefully you and the boys will be able to point me in the right direction regarding my opinions on the new coach. Also I'll be working on my school boy humour up to boxing day so I can join in.
I got one Boosey you missed a b out of your name....
Like it Keith (Boobsey - just in case you didn't know where to put the b).
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.[/p][/quote]Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?[/p][/quote]No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up![/p][/quote]I can't wait Boosey. Hopefully you and the boys will be able to point me in the right direction regarding my opinions on the new coach. Also I'll be working on my school boy humour up to boxing day so I can join in. I got one Boosey you missed a b out of your name.... Like it Keith (Boobsey - just in case you didn't know where to put the b). watfordrick

4:28pm Thu 19 Dec 13

longcliffe says...

Oh how the Watford fans celebrated when they got to Wembley. But they were a humiliation. Zola this, Zola that, how what a great manager he is. How they were certainties to be promoted and that GFZ was so brilliant.
Well he isn't so good now is he?
Now you're lumbered with an unknown Italian who can't keep a job for longer than a month!!!
Oh how the Watford fans celebrated when they got to Wembley. But they were a humiliation. Zola this, Zola that, how what a great manager he is. How they were certainties to be promoted and that GFZ was so brilliant. Well he isn't so good now is he? Now you're lumbered with an unknown Italian who can't keep a job for longer than a month!!! longcliffe

5:13pm Thu 19 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

longcliffe wrote:
Oh how the Watford fans celebrated when they got to Wembley. But they were a humiliation. Zola this, Zola that, how what a great manager he is. How they were certainties to be promoted and that GFZ was so brilliant.
Well he isn't so good now is he?
Now you're lumbered with an unknown Italian who can't keep a job for longer than a month!!!
And who, exactly, are you...?
[quote][p][bold]longcliffe[/bold] wrote: Oh how the Watford fans celebrated when they got to Wembley. But they were a humiliation. Zola this, Zola that, how what a great manager he is. How they were certainties to be promoted and that GFZ was so brilliant. Well he isn't so good now is he? Now you're lumbered with an unknown Italian who can't keep a job for longer than a month!!![/p][/quote]And who, exactly, are you...? mellow yellow

6:26pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Boosey says...

watfordrick wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
KeithMercer wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.
Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?
No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up!
I can't wait Boosey. Hopefully you and the boys will be able to point me in the right direction regarding my opinions on the new coach. Also I'll be working on my school boy humour up to boxing day so I can join in. I got one Boosey you missed a b out of your name.... Like it Keith (Boobsey - just in case you didn't know where to put the b).
You're not invited, i'm bored with you already.
[quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.[/p][/quote]Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?[/p][/quote]No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up![/p][/quote]I can't wait Boosey. Hopefully you and the boys will be able to point me in the right direction regarding my opinions on the new coach. Also I'll be working on my school boy humour up to boxing day so I can join in. I got one Boosey you missed a b out of your name.... Like it Keith (Boobsey - just in case you didn't know where to put the b).[/p][/quote]You're not invited, i'm bored with you already. Boosey

6:42pm Thu 19 Dec 13

watfordrick says...

Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote:
KeithMercer wrote:
Boosey wrote:
watfordrick wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.
You missed a P out in your name!
Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.
Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?
No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up!
I can't wait Boosey. Hopefully you and the boys will be able to point me in the right direction regarding my opinions on the new coach. Also I'll be working on my school boy humour up to boxing day so I can join in. I got one Boosey you missed a b out of your name.... Like it Keith (Boobsey - just in case you didn't know where to put the b).
You're not invited, i'm bored with you already.
Dam you come across as such a nice bunch of guys. Oh well !
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]watfordrick[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep saying the Pozzo's know what they are doing? They have no prior knowledge of English Football. Personally I been watching Football 30 years or more most of it in the second tier and I reckon I got more of an idea as to how this division works than they have. There is no evidence to suggest that the Manager and coaching staff will get us promoted.[/p][/quote]You missed a P out in your name![/p][/quote]Nice one Boosey ! Good luck to the new management, see you and the boys on boxing day.[/p][/quote]Yeah nice one Boosey keep em coming.. Is this just a love in between mates?[/p][/quote]No, sometimes your wife joins in! One minute you want to join me for a beer, the next you're having a go again, make your mind up![/p][/quote]I can't wait Boosey. Hopefully you and the boys will be able to point me in the right direction regarding my opinions on the new coach. Also I'll be working on my school boy humour up to boxing day so I can join in. I got one Boosey you missed a b out of your name.... Like it Keith (Boobsey - just in case you didn't know where to put the b).[/p][/quote]You're not invited, i'm bored with you already.[/p][/quote]Dam you come across as such a nice bunch of guys. Oh well ! watfordrick

8:57pm Thu 19 Dec 13

longcliffe says...

League One beckons for all you deluded idiots. Automatic promotion? You lot do not have a clue, despite all your Udinese players you will be going down!!!
League One beckons for all you deluded idiots. Automatic promotion? You lot do not have a clue, despite all your Udinese players you will be going down!!! longcliffe

9:12pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Ramageland says...

longcliffe wrote:
League One beckons for all you deluded idiots. Automatic promotion? You lot do not have a clue, despite all your Udinese players you will be going down!!!
You must have a really exciting life, going onto other clubs' news sites and making unfunny comments. Has mummy gone out and left her laptop on? Night night!
[quote][p][bold]longcliffe[/bold] wrote: League One beckons for all you deluded idiots. Automatic promotion? You lot do not have a clue, despite all your Udinese players you will be going down!!![/p][/quote]You must have a really exciting life, going onto other clubs' news sites and making unfunny comments. Has mummy gone out and left her laptop on? Night night! Ramageland

2:11pm Fri 20 Dec 13

jasonwatford says...

longcliffe wrote:
League One beckons for all you deluded idiots. Automatic promotion? You lot do not have a clue, despite all your Udinese players you will be going down!!!
Maybe...but we are still not a pub team like you up M1
[quote][p][bold]longcliffe[/bold] wrote: League One beckons for all you deluded idiots. Automatic promotion? You lot do not have a clue, despite all your Udinese players you will be going down!!![/p][/quote]Maybe...but we are still not a pub team like you up M1 jasonwatford

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