Watford insists Udinese don't control their recruitment policy and Gianfranco Zola has final say

This Is Local London: Gino Pozzo is now living in London and attends most home matches. Picture: Holly Cant Gino Pozzo is now living in London and attends most home matches. Picture: Holly Cant

Watford have denied fellow Pozzo-owned club Udinese apply pressure on the Hornets’ recruitment policy and insist Gianfranco Zola has the final decision on all signings.

Udinese owner Gianpaolo Pozzo has no formal role at the Hornets and it is his son Gino who works closely with chief executive Scott Duxbury and technical director Gian Luca Nani.

Gino Pozzo does have excellent knowledge of Udinese’s players and unrivalled contacts at the Serie A club, having held positions at the club in the past.

The majority of Watford’s signings in the last 18 months have come from Udinese or Granada, the two other clubs owned by the Pozzo family.

On the whole it has proved very beneficial but there have been a few players who have failed to make a positive impact and that point was raised at the fans’ forum on Monday night, where the panel consisted of Zola, Duxbury, Nani and non-executive director Stuart Timperley.

One supporter queried whether the Hornets, and particularly Zola, controlled the club’s transfer policy or whether it was imposed on them.

Duxbury replied: “The best way to describe it is that we are independent and as a group we [Zola, Nani, Gino Pozzo and Duxbury] decide which players are needed to benefit the team.

“We have the advantage that we have a good relationship with Udinese and Granada and we decide which players at those clubs would benefit Watford. If the player wants to come and we can reach an agreement, then clearly we have an advantage when trying to get those players.

“But we are not restricted to players from Udinese or Granada. We are looking at players from the UK and the rest of the world but we have the advantage of the relationship with Udinese and Granada. The decision on whether we want those players lies entirely with those at this football club. It would be silly not to utilise that relationship but we are certainly not restricted. It is always our choice and then it is like any other negotiation regarding whether the player will come here.”

When asked how much independence Zola has, Nani added: “We work like a team. We have scouts all around the world and together we get a decision. Sometimes Gianfranco spends 20 hours of a day on his job so he doesn’t always have the time to travel to watch a player. That is my job and the scouting network’s.

“We really trust each other. We try to share opinion together. This year the owner (Gino Pozzo) moved to London so we now have the advantage of his great knowledge of football. We all work like a team.”

The recruitment of a player usually starts with Zola and the Hornets’ hierarchy identifying where the squad needs strengthening. The scouting network and Nani then compile a list of four or five potential signings who could be suitable. Zola will then view DVDs of the targets and potentially watch a player live and then the Italian decides which player he wants.

Zola explained: “In this country you are used to the manager who does everything; he picks the team, gets the players and has to deal with all the agents. The structure at the majority of the bigger clubs in Europe is different. The manager or head coach works with the team.

“Of course the club doesn’t go and buy players by chance, they follow the logic. The club knows I like to play a certain way, I give the club directions and the idea of what I need such as the type of player.

“The good thing about this club is they can give me not one or two choices but four or five choices in that position. So if you play 3-5-2, you need wide players with certain qualities and they will give me four or five choices which other clubs maybe can’t do.

“I am offered a selection of players and then I say ‘I like him’. That is an asset and the know-how has been a big asset at other clubs and it is here. So far it has worked well.”

One fan queried why the Hornets had similar players in the same position, although he refused to name who he was referring to when asked by the panel.

Duxbury replied: “There are a lot of Saturday and then Tuesday games in the Championship and last season there were almost two separate teams playing, so we sat down at the end of the season and were mindful that we needed several players for the one position depending on the formation we were going to play.

“Hindsight is a wonderful thing. We really did think that we had the blend in the squad and the right players for this campaign. It is easy to look back now and say maybe we got that wrong.

“We did build the squad with the number of fixtures in the Championship in mind. It is our squad and we take the responsibility for where we are now.

“We believe in the squad, we believe in the composition and we believe we will achieve success,” the Watford chief executive added.

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8:05am Sun 15 Dec 13

endean2 says...

WOW ,with all that knowledge and team work, with the global contacts we have we should have some team on the pitch.
WOW ,with all that knowledge and team work, with the global contacts we have we should have some team on the pitch. endean2

8:27am Sun 15 Dec 13

Bigads123 says...

It's amazing with such a network available we only had one striker in the squad yesterday
It's amazing with such a network available we only had one striker in the squad yesterday Bigads123

8:41am Sun 15 Dec 13

The BestTrip2011 says...

Interesting timing of this article!
Interesting timing of this article! The BestTrip2011

9:41am Sun 15 Dec 13

Mr Watford of Watford says...

if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker? Mr Watford of Watford

9:44am Sun 15 Dec 13

goldanboy says...

The reason why Zola left his job at West Ham was lack of control over player purchases. He wouldn't put up with this issue again. Selling club players (Britt) is out of managers hands at most clubs. I think we have a huge pool of players to pick from which most clubs would envy. Some Championship sides have small squads ie, Burnley and find a suitable style. What needs to happen is for the strikers to have a huge kick up the backside and to be told to run into good positions and stop being wasteful. Having said all that, Zola must be at a loss to see what's going on with Vydra at WBA. Still, now they've sacked Clarke, we might get him back.
The reason why Zola left his job at West Ham was lack of control over player purchases. He wouldn't put up with this issue again. Selling club players (Britt) is out of managers hands at most clubs. I think we have a huge pool of players to pick from which most clubs would envy. Some Championship sides have small squads ie, Burnley and find a suitable style. What needs to happen is for the strikers to have a huge kick up the backside and to be told to run into good positions and stop being wasteful. Having said all that, Zola must be at a loss to see what's going on with Vydra at WBA. Still, now they've sacked Clarke, we might get him back. goldanboy

9:58am Sun 15 Dec 13

kojak17 says...

I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me. kojak17

10:01am Sun 15 Dec 13

Hornets number 12 fan says...

They are putting the record straight and letting us all know the current situation is down to ZOLA before they cut him loose.
They are putting the record straight and letting us all know the current situation is down to ZOLA before they cut him loose. Hornets number 12 fan

10:15am Sun 15 Dec 13

andyrankin says...

kojak17 wrote:
I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
Do you actually know anything about the game at all?
How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship.
You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.
[quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.[/p][/quote]Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training. andyrankin

10:18am Sun 15 Dec 13

andyrankin says...

Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
They are putting the record straight and letting us all know the current situation is down to ZOLA before they cut him loose.
I agree. This story was from 6 days ago but is published now?
Even Zola is saying I don't know what to do, I don't understand, I don't know wether I can turn it around.
It would actually cruel to a lovely bloke to let him carry on.
Steve Clark anyone?
[quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: They are putting the record straight and letting us all know the current situation is down to ZOLA before they cut him loose.[/p][/quote]I agree. This story was from 6 days ago but is published now? Even Zola is saying I don't know what to do, I don't understand, I don't know wether I can turn it around. It would actually cruel to a lovely bloke to let him carry on. Steve Clark anyone? andyrankin

10:20am Sun 15 Dec 13

kojak17 says...

andyrankin wrote:
kojak17 wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.
Zola and Clark are great friends. Even if Clark came in on a temporary basis while he is out of work it would be a great help to Zola.
[quote][p][bold]andyrankin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.[/p][/quote]Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.[/p][/quote]Zola and Clark are great friends. Even if Clark came in on a temporary basis while he is out of work it would be a great help to Zola. kojak17

10:24am Sun 15 Dec 13

lincoln horn says...

So far it's a failure, regardless . Who ever chose some of these players chose unwisely, yes in hindsight the people responsible would have not brought over the likes of Iriney and co as they have struggled in every game which felt like the opposition had some motivation. My fear is having the time this season to make the required changes before too many more league positions are lost. GZ did amazing things last season as did the players,. This time, due to a worse squad and injuries, we are suffering. To add GZ is making which appears baffling team selections and formations. I'm as fickle as the next man and no expert but experience has told me that change is probably overdue at WFC.
So far it's a failure, regardless . Who ever chose some of these players chose unwisely, yes in hindsight the people responsible would have not brought over the likes of Iriney and co as they have struggled in every game which felt like the opposition had some motivation. My fear is having the time this season to make the required changes before too many more league positions are lost. GZ did amazing things last season as did the players,. This time, due to a worse squad and injuries, we are suffering. To add GZ is making which appears baffling team selections and formations. I'm as fickle as the next man and no expert but experience has told me that change is probably overdue at WFC. lincoln horn

10:26am Sun 15 Dec 13

kojak17 says...

WE MUST TRY AND GET STEVE CLARK...One of the best coaches around
WE MUST TRY AND GET STEVE CLARK...One of the best coaches around kojak17

10:35am Sun 15 Dec 13

endean2 says...

quite frankly anybody coming in would be a big plus at the moment.
my old gran could certainly point Zola in the right direction, unfortunately she is still
in preliminary talks with Real Madrid.
quite frankly anybody coming in would be a big plus at the moment. my old gran could certainly point Zola in the right direction, unfortunately she is still in preliminary talks with Real Madrid. endean2

10:42am Sun 15 Dec 13

bristol hornet says...

andyrankin wrote:
kojak17 wrote:
I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
Do you actually know anything about the game at all?
How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship.
You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.
He could do what McLaren did as at QPR earlier this season, until the right job comes up, as it did with Derby.

Quite simple really, as they good friends, and it could prove to be a fruitful partnership.

Zola is poor on his own, and definitely needs an experienced man alongside him.
[quote][p][bold]andyrankin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.[/p][/quote]Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.[/p][/quote]He could do what McLaren did as at QPR earlier this season, until the right job comes up, as it did with Derby. Quite simple really, as they good friends, and it could prove to be a fruitful partnership. Zola is poor on his own, and definitely needs an experienced man alongside him. bristol hornet

10:56am Sun 15 Dec 13

JohnnyBarnes says...

kojak17 wrote:
andyrankin wrote:
kojak17 wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.
Zola and Clark are great friends. Even if Clark came in on a temporary basis while he is out of work it would be a great help to Zola.
You're right - it would be great! and is entirely unrealistic

Managers out of work look for work, find work, apply for work, prepare for an interview and then start work. If I lost my job, I wouldn't phone my best mate up and say 'Alright pal?!... I've just been sacked! Want me to come round and help you do your job for a couple of months?!' Mental.

Steve Clarke will want to spend his time reflecting on what went wrong at West Brom and deciding on his next move, end of.
If Zola jumps or is pushed (and I hope neither happens) then we'd still have a job on convincing Clarke to come to us as number one, but that's certainly the only scenario whereby he's stood on the Vicarage Road touchline with a Watford badge on his chest.
[quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyrankin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.[/p][/quote]Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.[/p][/quote]Zola and Clark are great friends. Even if Clark came in on a temporary basis while he is out of work it would be a great help to Zola.[/p][/quote]You're right - it would be great! and is entirely unrealistic Managers out of work look for work, find work, apply for work, prepare for an interview and then start work. If I lost my job, I wouldn't phone my best mate up and say 'Alright pal?!... I've just been sacked! Want me to come round and help you do your job for a couple of months?!' Mental. Steve Clarke will want to spend his time reflecting on what went wrong at West Brom and deciding on his next move, end of. If Zola jumps or is pushed (and I hope neither happens) then we'd still have a job on convincing Clarke to come to us as number one, but that's certainly the only scenario whereby he's stood on the Vicarage Road touchline with a Watford badge on his chest. JohnnyBarnes

11:29am Sun 15 Dec 13

Boosey says...

Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
[quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker? Boosey

11:35am Sun 15 Dec 13

Hornets number 12 fan says...

Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Brit Assombalonga! DOH!
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Brit Assombalonga! DOH! Hornets number 12 fan

11:37am Sun 15 Dec 13

ForzaWatford says...

Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Zola
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Zola ForzaWatford

11:43am Sun 15 Dec 13

Boosey says...

Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Brit Assombalonga! DOH!
And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH!
[quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Brit Assombalonga! DOH![/p][/quote]And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH! Boosey

11:44am Sun 15 Dec 13

Hornets number 12 fan says...

Boosey wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Brit Assombalonga! DOH!
And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH!
And there lies the problem DOH!
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Brit Assombalonga! DOH![/p][/quote]And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH![/p][/quote]And there lies the problem DOH! Hornets number 12 fan

11:49am Sun 15 Dec 13

Boosey says...

Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Brit Assombalonga! DOH!
And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH!
And there lies the problem DOH!
It's in your name, he would only have made the bench. No.12
[quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Brit Assombalonga! DOH![/p][/quote]And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH![/p][/quote]And there lies the problem DOH![/p][/quote]It's in your name, he would only have made the bench. No.12 Boosey

11:54am Sun 15 Dec 13

Hornets number 12 fan says...

Boosey wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Brit Assombalonga! DOH!
And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH!
And there lies the problem DOH!
It's in your name, he would only have made the bench. No.12
We'll never know because he never got the chance!
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Brit Assombalonga! DOH![/p][/quote]And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH![/p][/quote]And there lies the problem DOH![/p][/quote]It's in your name, he would only have made the bench. No.12[/p][/quote]We'll never know because he never got the chance! Hornets number 12 fan

12:03pm Sun 15 Dec 13

GoldenManc says...

JohnnyBarnes wrote:
kojak17 wrote:
andyrankin wrote:
kojak17 wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.
Zola and Clark are great friends. Even if Clark came in on a temporary basis while he is out of work it would be a great help to Zola.
You're right - it would be great! and is entirely unrealistic

Managers out of work look for work, find work, apply for work, prepare for an interview and then start work. If I lost my job, I wouldn't phone my best mate up and say 'Alright pal?!... I've just been sacked! Want me to come round and help you do your job for a couple of months?!' Mental.

Steve Clarke will want to spend his time reflecting on what went wrong at West Brom and deciding on his next move, end of.
If Zola jumps or is pushed (and I hope neither happens) then we'd still have a job on convincing Clarke to come to us as number one, but that's certainly the only scenario whereby he's stood on the Vicarage Road touchline with a Watford badge on his chest.
Unless Zola asked him to come & help him out ... unlikely, but no job going at the moment & it'd be great for Zola & might save his position
[quote][p][bold]JohnnyBarnes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyrankin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.[/p][/quote]Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.[/p][/quote]Zola and Clark are great friends. Even if Clark came in on a temporary basis while he is out of work it would be a great help to Zola.[/p][/quote]You're right - it would be great! and is entirely unrealistic Managers out of work look for work, find work, apply for work, prepare for an interview and then start work. If I lost my job, I wouldn't phone my best mate up and say 'Alright pal?!... I've just been sacked! Want me to come round and help you do your job for a couple of months?!' Mental. Steve Clarke will want to spend his time reflecting on what went wrong at West Brom and deciding on his next move, end of. If Zola jumps or is pushed (and I hope neither happens) then we'd still have a job on convincing Clarke to come to us as number one, but that's certainly the only scenario whereby he's stood on the Vicarage Road touchline with a Watford badge on his chest.[/p][/quote]Unless Zola asked him to come & help him out ... unlikely, but no job going at the moment & it'd be great for Zola & might save his position GoldenManc

12:12pm Sun 15 Dec 13

endean2 says...

bristol hornet wrote:
andyrankin wrote:
kojak17 wrote:
I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
Do you actually know anything about the game at all?
How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship.
You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.
He could do what McLaren did as at QPR earlier this season, until the right job comes up, as it did with Derby.

Quite simple really, as they good friends, and it could prove to be a fruitful partnership.

Zola is poor on his own, and definitely needs an experienced man alongside him.
GOD?
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyrankin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.[/p][/quote]Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.[/p][/quote]He could do what McLaren did as at QPR earlier this season, until the right job comes up, as it did with Derby. Quite simple really, as they good friends, and it could prove to be a fruitful partnership. Zola is poor on his own, and definitely needs an experienced man alongside him.[/p][/quote]GOD? endean2

12:54pm Sun 15 Dec 13

allgood says...

goldanboy wrote:
The reason why Zola left his job at West Ham was lack of control over player purchases. He wouldn't put up with this issue again. Selling club players (Britt) is out of managers hands at most clubs. I think we have a huge pool of players to pick from which most clubs would envy. Some Championship sides have small squads ie, Burnley and find a suitable style. What needs to happen is for the strikers to have a huge kick up the backside and to be told to run into good positions and stop being wasteful. Having said all that, Zola must be at a loss to see what's going on with Vydra at WBA. Still, now they've sacked Clarke, we might get him back.
Didn't he get the sack?
[quote][p][bold]goldanboy[/bold] wrote: The reason why Zola left his job at West Ham was lack of control over player purchases. He wouldn't put up with this issue again. Selling club players (Britt) is out of managers hands at most clubs. I think we have a huge pool of players to pick from which most clubs would envy. Some Championship sides have small squads ie, Burnley and find a suitable style. What needs to happen is for the strikers to have a huge kick up the backside and to be told to run into good positions and stop being wasteful. Having said all that, Zola must be at a loss to see what's going on with Vydra at WBA. Still, now they've sacked Clarke, we might get him back.[/p][/quote]Didn't he get the sack? allgood

12:56pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Harrydownunder says...

kojak17 wrote:
I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
quality post.... at last someone talking sense...

we are so very luck to have Zola. We need to stick with the "project" through thick and thin rather than calling for managers head when things dont quite go to plan...
[quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.[/p][/quote]quality post.... at last someone talking sense... we are so very luck to have Zola. We need to stick with the "project" through thick and thin rather than calling for managers head when things dont quite go to plan... Harrydownunder

12:58pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Guy Bov says...

So the Assombalonga debate continues.

Last year we were scoring goals for fun so there was little prospect of Britt getting game time and he wanted to leave

A good deal for an unproven player and who forecast we would be struggling?

Most on here were saying we had the best squad in the division and we would **** the league

Those stupid idiots are the ones calling for Zola's head
So the Assombalonga debate continues. Last year we were scoring goals for fun so there was little prospect of Britt getting game time and he wanted to leave A good deal for an unproven player and who forecast we would be struggling? Most on here were saying we had the best squad in the division and we would **** the league Those stupid idiots are the ones calling for Zola's head Guy Bov

1:16pm Sun 15 Dec 13

goldanboy says...

allgood wrote:
goldanboy wrote:
The reason why Zola left his job at West Ham was lack of control over player purchases. He wouldn't put up with this issue again. Selling club players (Britt) is out of managers hands at most clubs. I think we have a huge pool of players to pick from which most clubs would envy. Some Championship sides have small squads ie, Burnley and find a suitable style. What needs to happen is for the strikers to have a huge kick up the backside and to be told to run into good positions and stop being wasteful. Having said all that, Zola must be at a loss to see what's going on with Vydra at WBA. Still, now they've sacked Clarke, we might get him back.
Didn't he get the sack?
Zola was released or sacked as they say. O'sullivan put the whole West Ham squad up for sale. The first Zola new about it was in the papers. They didn't speak to one another all summer and was released before he walked . They weren't playing well which worked in everyone's favour. I'm sure Zola would have read the 'small print' before signing for Watford.
I'm told by a West Ham supporter that under Zola they played really good football to watch, but couldn't put the ball in the back of the net....
[quote][p][bold]allgood[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]goldanboy[/bold] wrote: The reason why Zola left his job at West Ham was lack of control over player purchases. He wouldn't put up with this issue again. Selling club players (Britt) is out of managers hands at most clubs. I think we have a huge pool of players to pick from which most clubs would envy. Some Championship sides have small squads ie, Burnley and find a suitable style. What needs to happen is for the strikers to have a huge kick up the backside and to be told to run into good positions and stop being wasteful. Having said all that, Zola must be at a loss to see what's going on with Vydra at WBA. Still, now they've sacked Clarke, we might get him back.[/p][/quote]Didn't he get the sack?[/p][/quote]Zola was released or sacked as they say. O'sullivan put the whole West Ham squad up for sale. The first Zola new about it was in the papers. They didn't speak to one another all summer and was released before he walked . They weren't playing well which worked in everyone's favour. I'm sure Zola would have read the 'small print' before signing for Watford. I'm told by a West Ham supporter that under Zola they played really good football to watch, but couldn't put the ball in the back of the net.... goldanboy

1:25pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Hornets number 12 fan says...

Guy Bov wrote:
So the Assombalonga debate continues.

Last year we were scoring goals for fun so there was little prospect of Britt getting game time and he wanted to leave

A good deal for an unproven player and who forecast we would be struggling?

Most on here were saying we had the best squad in the division and we would **** the league

Those stupid idiots are the ones calling for Zola's head
Way to go calling everyone that can see that Zolas not a good manage idiots! your debating skills are top notch!
[quote][p][bold]Guy Bov[/bold] wrote: So the Assombalonga debate continues. Last year we were scoring goals for fun so there was little prospect of Britt getting game time and he wanted to leave A good deal for an unproven player and who forecast we would be struggling? Most on here were saying we had the best squad in the division and we would **** the league Those stupid idiots are the ones calling for Zola's head[/p][/quote]Way to go calling everyone that can see that Zolas not a good manage idiots! your debating skills are top notch! Hornets number 12 fan

2:11pm Sun 15 Dec 13

JohnnyHornet says...

endean2 wrote:
WOW ,with all that knowledge and team work, with the global contacts we have we should have some team on the pitch.
My only query would be why has it taken so long to identify we need an additional striker !"!
[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: WOW ,with all that knowledge and team work, with the global contacts we have we should have some team on the pitch.[/p][/quote]My only query would be why has it taken so long to identify we need an additional striker !"! JohnnyHornet

2:12pm Sun 15 Dec 13

jaemae2 says...

because you all are idiot, it's pretty simple to see if you actually have a brain...
because you all are idiot, it's pretty simple to see if you actually have a brain... jaemae2

2:15pm Sun 15 Dec 13

jaemae2 says...

One of the biggest issues is Forrestieri, he's really completely rubbish. You can all admire how hard he works or the "effort" he puts in and look at the results and think about if those are the results from all that effort he's really a **** poor player.
One of the biggest issues is Forrestieri, he's really completely rubbish. You can all admire how hard he works or the "effort" he puts in and look at the results and think about if those are the results from all that effort he's really a **** poor player. jaemae2

2:35pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Hornets number 12 fan says...

jaemae2 wrote:
because you all are idiot, it's pretty simple to see if you actually have a brain...
er ok mate time for your medication!
[quote][p][bold]jaemae2[/bold] wrote: because you all are idiot, it's pretty simple to see if you actually have a brain...[/p][/quote]er ok mate time for your medication! Hornets number 12 fan

3:05pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Johnny Ryden says...

I hope Gianfranco doesn't go. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think what has happened is that having lost players mostly due to injury, he has ended up changing the team too much; the side has become unsettled and this in turn has led to a big hit on confidence. GFZ sides have played some of the best football I have ever seen at the Vic, he needs our support and the Pozzo's backing. Maybe a new No.2 would help but please stay GFZ!
I hope Gianfranco doesn't go. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I think what has happened is that having lost players mostly due to injury, he has ended up changing the team too much; the side has become unsettled and this in turn has led to a big hit on confidence. GFZ sides have played some of the best football I have ever seen at the Vic, he needs our support and the Pozzo's backing. Maybe a new No.2 would help but please stay GFZ! Johnny Ryden

3:26pm Sun 15 Dec 13

andyhooked says...

Cut things short. Zola has lost the plot. Some of the Udinese players are at best very average look nice on the ball for about 10 seconds and then fall over. Tactics wrong. Did not get anyone in to help out Troy. FF is a good player but no good against a robust defence. On form, we have dropped from being promotion hopefuls to one of, if the not the worst team result-wise, in the Division. The only people to blame for not gettinga striker are either Zola or it goes right up to the top to our saviours.
Cut things short. Zola has lost the plot. Some of the Udinese players are at best very average look nice on the ball for about 10 seconds and then fall over. Tactics wrong. Did not get anyone in to help out Troy. FF is a good player but no good against a robust defence. On form, we have dropped from being promotion hopefuls to one of, if the not the worst team result-wise, in the Division. The only people to blame for not gettinga striker are either Zola or it goes right up to the top to our saviours. andyhooked

4:44pm Sun 15 Dec 13

techguide says...

Of our 85 goals last season Vydra, Abdi and Chalobah got 37 of them. They could not predict Abdi would be out but Zola has lost the spine of the team also losing Hogg and Eustace. The reality is Watford could almost certainly have retained Vydra and Chalobah and took the risk not too. If Zola goes it won't improve much without some better players. This season may well be over for Watford, let's hope we stay up, I suspect that will be our focus from Feb onwards .
Of our 85 goals last season Vydra, Abdi and Chalobah got 37 of them. They could not predict Abdi would be out but Zola has lost the spine of the team also losing Hogg and Eustace. The reality is Watford could almost certainly have retained Vydra and Chalobah and took the risk not too. If Zola goes it won't improve much without some better players. This season may well be over for Watford, let's hope we stay up, I suspect that will be our focus from Feb onwards . techguide

4:55pm Sun 15 Dec 13

bushey tales says...

I also hope he doesn't go, but this shows all the signs of a classic 'hang him out to dry' campaign. If one of Duxbury, Nani and Zola has to be made a scapegoat, then either of the other two would get my vote.
I also hope he doesn't go, but this shows all the signs of a classic 'hang him out to dry' campaign. If one of Duxbury, Nani and Zola has to be made a scapegoat, then either of the other two would get my vote. bushey tales

5:19pm Sun 15 Dec 13

15minutes says...

Oh, it is poetic how when we beat you on the 19th October, and a large amount of your contributors gave it very large, many comments saying things like "there are two types of football in this division, our sexy football, and the rubbish that Derby play" and "how could we lose to a team like Derby?" and "couldn't watch Derby" - that marked the end of your 15 minutes of fame. You are Watford. 15,000 for your home games. You are where you are based on what you've done, and when a team rolls up and beats you on your own field, don't ever forget you are Watford, and show some bloody respect. Don't get rid of Zola, he will turn it round. Good luck for the rest of the season.
Oh, it is poetic how when we beat you on the 19th October, and a large amount of your contributors gave it very large, many comments saying things like "there are two types of football in this division, our sexy football, and the rubbish that Derby play" and "how could we lose to a team like Derby?" and "couldn't watch Derby" - that marked the end of your 15 minutes of fame. You are Watford. 15,000 for your home games. You are where you are based on what you've done, and when a team rolls up and beats you on your own field, don't ever forget you are Watford, and show some bloody respect. Don't get rid of Zola, he will turn it round. Good luck for the rest of the season. 15minutes

5:59pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Harold Hornet says...

bushey tales wrote:
I also hope he doesn't go, but this shows all the signs of a classic 'hang him out to dry' campaign. If one of Duxbury, Nani and Zola has to be made a scapegoat, then either of the other two would get my vote.
What on earth has Duxbury done to upset you? He comes across well and appears to be doing a great job as Chief Excecutive.
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: I also hope he doesn't go, but this shows all the signs of a classic 'hang him out to dry' campaign. If one of Duxbury, Nani and Zola has to be made a scapegoat, then either of the other two would get my vote.[/p][/quote]What on earth has Duxbury done to upset you? He comes across well and appears to be doing a great job as Chief Excecutive. Harold Hornet

6:02pm Sun 15 Dec 13

demerit says...

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Interesting timing of this article!
Yes, it means another nail in Zola's coffin and paves the way for someone else to come in that knows he will have the final say.....clever move.
[quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: Interesting timing of this article![/p][/quote]Yes, it means another nail in Zola's coffin and paves the way for someone else to come in that knows he will have the final say.....clever move. demerit

6:05pm Sun 15 Dec 13

demerit says...

The Watford Warbler wrote:
Reading everyone's opinions its good to see how many people care about Watford but also sad to see so much in house fighting. The Watford warbler is calling all Watford fans to stop fighting, be careful as on this site there are a few closet luton fans purposely stirring things up, the Watford warbler has already exposed one of them last night. The Watford warbler has told you all for months zola must go, so that is the end of it, and I wont let you down I will have him out of the job before Christmas. WHEN THE WATFORD WARBLER TALKS, YOU LISTEN!
Whilst I agree that Zola must go, why don't you change "Warbler" to "W****r"?
[quote][p][bold]The Watford Warbler[/bold] wrote: Reading everyone's opinions its good to see how many people care about Watford but also sad to see so much in house fighting. The Watford warbler is calling all Watford fans to stop fighting, be careful as on this site there are a few closet luton fans purposely stirring things up, the Watford warbler has already exposed one of them last night. The Watford warbler has told you all for months zola must go, so that is the end of it, and I wont let you down I will have him out of the job before Christmas. WHEN THE WATFORD WARBLER TALKS, YOU LISTEN![/p][/quote]Whilst I agree that Zola must go, why don't you change "Warbler" to "W****r"? demerit

6:45pm Sun 15 Dec 13

ramage1996 says...

Totl change of emphasis is needed, we had a great academy before it was reduced to a category C, we should re-invest in youth and play the youth players.
We could even try and buy back Assombalonga, we have a buy back which is probably at the 3 million mark, he is going to be worth three times that at least so worth doing.
Totl change of emphasis is needed, we had a great academy before it was reduced to a category C, we should re-invest in youth and play the youth players. We could even try and buy back Assombalonga, we have a buy back which is probably at the 3 million mark, he is going to be worth three times that at least so worth doing. ramage1996

7:14pm Sun 15 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

ramage1996 wrote:
Totl change of emphasis is needed, we had a great academy before it was reduced to a category C, we should re-invest in youth and play the youth players.
We could even try and buy back Assombalonga, we have a buy back which is probably at the 3 million mark, he is going to be worth three times that at least so worth doing.
Please don't drag the category argument back into the debate. If you read the rules you would understand staying in top academy status is essentially allowing your club to be pillaged. The academy is fine. Move on with this one.
[quote][p][bold]ramage1996[/bold] wrote: Totl change of emphasis is needed, we had a great academy before it was reduced to a category C, we should re-invest in youth and play the youth players. We could even try and buy back Assombalonga, we have a buy back which is probably at the 3 million mark, he is going to be worth three times that at least so worth doing.[/p][/quote]Please don't drag the category argument back into the debate. If you read the rules you would understand staying in top academy status is essentially allowing your club to be pillaged. The academy is fine. Move on with this one. mellow yellow

7:24pm Sun 15 Dec 13

ramage1996 says...

mellow yellow wrote:
ramage1996 wrote:
Totl change of emphasis is needed, we had a great academy before it was reduced to a category C, we should re-invest in youth and play the youth players.
We could even try and buy back Assombalonga, we have a buy back which is probably at the 3 million mark, he is going to be worth three times that at least so worth doing.
Please don't drag the category argument back into the debate. If you read the rules you would understand staying in top academy status is essentially allowing your club to be pillaged. The academy is fine. Move on with this one.
Total rubbish, our academy can be 'pillaged' if we are Cat C, Cat B or Cat A. The difference is that at Cat A we would be playing the best young players in the country as opposed to Stevenage, Luton and Northampton's.

I would like our youth team to be Cat A so we play the best week in week out and that parents who are deciding whether to send there talented young player to our academy know that we are serious as they are talented im sure that QPR, West Ham and Spurs etc will also be interested in taking them. If we can only offer them playing crap league 2 youth tams every week then they wont chose Watford.
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramage1996[/bold] wrote: Totl change of emphasis is needed, we had a great academy before it was reduced to a category C, we should re-invest in youth and play the youth players. We could even try and buy back Assombalonga, we have a buy back which is probably at the 3 million mark, he is going to be worth three times that at least so worth doing.[/p][/quote]Please don't drag the category argument back into the debate. If you read the rules you would understand staying in top academy status is essentially allowing your club to be pillaged. The academy is fine. Move on with this one.[/p][/quote]Total rubbish, our academy can be 'pillaged' if we are Cat C, Cat B or Cat A. The difference is that at Cat A we would be playing the best young players in the country as opposed to Stevenage, Luton and Northampton's. I would like our youth team to be Cat A so we play the best week in week out and that parents who are deciding whether to send there talented young player to our academy know that we are serious as they are talented im sure that QPR, West Ham and Spurs etc will also be interested in taking them. If we can only offer them playing crap league 2 youth tams every week then they wont chose Watford. ramage1996

8:17pm Sun 15 Dec 13

cliff46 says...

Maybe club management need to look at getting rid of some of the non performing players rather than Zola.
Having said that when most of the incoming players last season were loan players getting rid was not a problem but now most of them are on permanent contracts it wil probably be more difficult and more costly to do so.

One size did very well I thought given it was his first game of the season.
Maybe club management need to look at getting rid of some of the non performing players rather than Zola. Having said that when most of the incoming players last season were loan players getting rid was not a problem but now most of them are on permanent contracts it wil probably be more difficult and more costly to do so. One size did very well I thought given it was his first game of the season. cliff46

8:28pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Man from Pinner says...

JohnnyBarnes wrote:
kojak17 wrote:
andyrankin wrote:
kojak17 wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.
Zola and Clark are great friends. Even if Clark came in on a temporary basis while he is out of work it would be a great help to Zola.
You're right - it would be great! and is entirely unrealistic

Managers out of work look for work, find work, apply for work, prepare for an interview and then start work. If I lost my job, I wouldn't phone my best mate up and say 'Alright pal?!... I've just been sacked! Want me to come round and help you do your job for a couple of months?!' Mental.

Steve Clarke will want to spend his time reflecting on what went wrong at West Brom and deciding on his next move, end of.
If Zola jumps or is pushed (and I hope neither happens) then we'd still have a job on convincing Clarke to come to us as number one, but that's certainly the only scenario whereby he's stood on the Vicarage Road touchline with a Watford badge on his chest.
Steve Clark is on garden leave at WBA. If he takes another job he will stop being paid. Could his pay at Watford compensate for this?
[quote][p][bold]JohnnyBarnes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyrankin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.[/p][/quote]Do you actually know anything about the game at all? How would a premiership manager then be a No2 in the championship. You may as well say , let's get Alex Fergusan in to help collect the balls after training.[/p][/quote]Zola and Clark are great friends. Even if Clark came in on a temporary basis while he is out of work it would be a great help to Zola.[/p][/quote]You're right - it would be great! and is entirely unrealistic Managers out of work look for work, find work, apply for work, prepare for an interview and then start work. If I lost my job, I wouldn't phone my best mate up and say 'Alright pal?!... I've just been sacked! Want me to come round and help you do your job for a couple of months?!' Mental. Steve Clarke will want to spend his time reflecting on what went wrong at West Brom and deciding on his next move, end of. If Zola jumps or is pushed (and I hope neither happens) then we'd still have a job on convincing Clarke to come to us as number one, but that's certainly the only scenario whereby he's stood on the Vicarage Road touchline with a Watford badge on his chest.[/p][/quote]Steve Clark is on garden leave at WBA. If he takes another job he will stop being paid. Could his pay at Watford compensate for this? Man from Pinner

8:43pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Goldentrue1 says...

Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Brit Assombalonga! DOH!
When in earth will we lose this nonsensensical view that Britt would have been the answer to our prayers. The whole of the coaching squad at watford who will have seen him in training, friendliest etc, decided he was probably not good enough for the championship or higher, and a bunch of people who have never seen him play but just follow the results think they know better!
Clutching at straws
[quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Brit Assombalonga! DOH![/p][/quote]When in earth will we lose this nonsensensical view that Britt would have been the answer to our prayers. The whole of the coaching squad at watford who will have seen him in training, friendliest etc, decided he was probably not good enough for the championship or higher, and a bunch of people who have never seen him play but just follow the results think they know better! Clutching at straws Goldentrue1

8:45pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Goldentrue1 says...

Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Brit Assombalonga! DOH!
And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH!
And there lies the problem DOH!
It's in your name, he would only have made the bench. No.12
We'll never know because he never got the chance!
Yes he did. He trained with the team every day, he played in matches at training, he played in friendlies and he was deemed not good enough. Accept it and move on
[quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Brit Assombalonga! DOH![/p][/quote]And theres me thinking he played for Peterborough DOH![/p][/quote]And there lies the problem DOH![/p][/quote]It's in your name, he would only have made the bench. No.12[/p][/quote]We'll never know because he never got the chance![/p][/quote]Yes he did. He trained with the team every day, he played in matches at training, he played in friendlies and he was deemed not good enough. Accept it and move on Goldentrue1

8:46pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Chris the Vic says...

Quotes and articles like this ...... so its all the fault of gfz....strange that chairman the world over make no comment in good times but rush to allocate the blame in the bad times.

Away from home we are not doing badly...but at home the crowd and team are verging on absolute rubbish and the manager feels football comes before winning!!!!!!

We have a problem Houston
Quotes and articles like this ...... so its all the fault of gfz....strange that chairman the world over make no comment in good times but rush to allocate the blame in the bad times. Away from home we are not doing badly...but at home the crowd and team are verging on absolute rubbish and the manager feels football comes before winning!!!!!! We have a problem Houston Chris the Vic

8:47pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Goldentrue1 says...

Harrydownunder wrote:
kojak17 wrote:
I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.
quality post.... at last someone talking sense...

we are so very luck to have Zola. We need to stick with the "project" through thick and thin rather than calling for managers head when things dont quite go to plan...
Absolutely spot on! Why on earth do people always think sacking the manager is the answer.
[quote][p][bold]Harrydownunder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kojak17[/bold] wrote: I f I was a director of Watford FC I would act now. Zola should not be sacked . He over performed last year and we have expected too much. I would move very quickly for Steve Clark and let them manage together. Get rid of our number 2....Seems simple to me.[/p][/quote]quality post.... at last someone talking sense... we are so very luck to have Zola. We need to stick with the "project" through thick and thin rather than calling for managers head when things dont quite go to plan...[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on! Why on earth do people always think sacking the manager is the answer. Goldentrue1

8:49pm Sun 15 Dec 13

Goldentrue1 says...

Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Guy Bov wrote:
So the Assombalonga debate continues.

Last year we were scoring goals for fun so there was little prospect of Britt getting game time and he wanted to leave

A good deal for an unproven player and who forecast we would be struggling?

Most on here were saying we had the best squad in the division and we would **** the league

Those stupid idiots are the ones calling for Zola's head
Way to go calling everyone that can see that Zolas not a good manage idiots! your debating skills are top notch!
Debating skills aside, he is right!
[quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guy Bov[/bold] wrote: So the Assombalonga debate continues. Last year we were scoring goals for fun so there was little prospect of Britt getting game time and he wanted to leave A good deal for an unproven player and who forecast we would be struggling? Most on here were saying we had the best squad in the division and we would **** the league Those stupid idiots are the ones calling for Zola's head[/p][/quote]Way to go calling everyone that can see that Zolas not a good manage idiots! your debating skills are top notch![/p][/quote]Debating skills aside, he is right! Goldentrue1

8:56pm Sun 15 Dec 13

ramage1996 says...

Goldentrue1 wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Brit Assombalonga! DOH!
When in earth will we lose this nonsensensical view that Britt would have been the answer to our prayers. The whole of the coaching squad at watford who will have seen him in training, friendliest etc, decided he was probably not good enough for the championship or higher, and a bunch of people who have never seen him play but just follow the results think they know better!
Clutching at straws
Oh well he is gone now, pace, power, poacher, long range goals, dribbling ability, good in the air, sets up goals thats scored 16 goals already this season!

Im sure we can get a 20 year striker like that coming through our youth team again.
[quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Brit Assombalonga! DOH![/p][/quote]When in earth will we lose this nonsensensical view that Britt would have been the answer to our prayers. The whole of the coaching squad at watford who will have seen him in training, friendliest etc, decided he was probably not good enough for the championship or higher, and a bunch of people who have never seen him play but just follow the results think they know better! Clutching at straws[/p][/quote]Oh well he is gone now, pace, power, poacher, long range goals, dribbling ability, good in the air, sets up goals thats scored 16 goals already this season! Im sure we can get a 20 year striker like that coming through our youth team again. ramage1996

11:16pm Sun 15 Dec 13

mkhornet says...

We've taken less than 50% of the points from our last 35 games (43 out of 105 to be precise) Won 11 Drawn 10 Lost 14 Mid table form at best! The problem goes back a lot further than this season. Our form deserted us after we threw away a win by letting in the late goal at Wolves last season and that was on March 1st, we haven't really looked the same team since.
We've taken less than 50% of the points from our last 35 games (43 out of 105 to be precise) Won 11 Drawn 10 Lost 14 Mid table form at best! The problem goes back a lot further than this season. Our form deserted us after we threw away a win by letting in the late goal at Wolves last season and that was on March 1st, we haven't really looked the same team since. mkhornet

11:51pm Sun 15 Dec 13

rogeruk says...

andyrankin wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
They are putting the record straight and letting us all know the current situation is down to ZOLA before they cut him loose.
I agree. This story was from 6 days ago but is published now?
Even Zola is saying I don't know what to do, I don't understand, I don't know wether I can turn it around.
It would actually cruel to a lovely bloke to let him carry on.
Steve Clark anyone?
Never mind Zola feeling or pride, what about the tens of thousands of Watford fan's feelings, they are feeling pretty peed right now.
[quote][p][bold]andyrankin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: They are putting the record straight and letting us all know the current situation is down to ZOLA before they cut him loose.[/p][/quote]I agree. This story was from 6 days ago but is published now? Even Zola is saying I don't know what to do, I don't understand, I don't know wether I can turn it around. It would actually cruel to a lovely bloke to let him carry on. Steve Clark anyone?[/p][/quote]Never mind Zola feeling or pride, what about the tens of thousands of Watford fan's feelings, they are feeling pretty peed right now. rogeruk

7:40am Mon 16 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

ramage1996 wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
ramage1996 wrote:
Totl change of emphasis is needed, we had a great academy before it was reduced to a category C, we should re-invest in youth and play the youth players.
We could even try and buy back Assombalonga, we have a buy back which is probably at the 3 million mark, he is going to be worth three times that at least so worth doing.
Please don't drag the category argument back into the debate. If you read the rules you would understand staying in top academy status is essentially allowing your club to be pillaged. The academy is fine. Move on with this one.
Total rubbish, our academy can be 'pillaged' if we are Cat C, Cat B or Cat A. The difference is that at Cat A we would be playing the best young players in the country as opposed to Stevenage, Luton and Northampton's.

I would like our youth team to be Cat A so we play the best week in week out and that parents who are deciding whether to send there talented young player to our academy know that we are serious as they are talented im sure that QPR, West Ham and Spurs etc will also be interested in taking them. If we can only offer them playing crap league 2 youth tams every week then they wont chose Watford.
Utter tripe..
[quote][p][bold]ramage1996[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ramage1996[/bold] wrote: Totl change of emphasis is needed, we had a great academy before it was reduced to a category C, we should re-invest in youth and play the youth players. We could even try and buy back Assombalonga, we have a buy back which is probably at the 3 million mark, he is going to be worth three times that at least so worth doing.[/p][/quote]Please don't drag the category argument back into the debate. If you read the rules you would understand staying in top academy status is essentially allowing your club to be pillaged. The academy is fine. Move on with this one.[/p][/quote]Total rubbish, our academy can be 'pillaged' if we are Cat C, Cat B or Cat A. The difference is that at Cat A we would be playing the best young players in the country as opposed to Stevenage, Luton and Northampton's. I would like our youth team to be Cat A so we play the best week in week out and that parents who are deciding whether to send there talented young player to our academy know that we are serious as they are talented im sure that QPR, West Ham and Spurs etc will also be interested in taking them. If we can only offer them playing crap league 2 youth tams every week then they wont chose Watford.[/p][/quote]Utter tripe.. mellow yellow

9:17am Mon 16 Dec 13

bristol hornet says...

Have faith friends even if Zola stays, which I do not think he should do.

We will finish mid table because our away form is far too good for us to be relegated.

Unbeaten in five away now, only one defeat in seven, our lucky ground of Ipswich up next, and nothing to fear about going to the likes of Yeovil, Sheff Wed, Charlton, Donny, Millwall, Bournemouth, Bolton, Wigan and the rest!

And we are bound to pick up some points at the Vic.........aren't we? Surely we cannot continue to lose every game......five is enough!!
Have faith friends even if Zola stays, which I do not think he should do. We will finish mid table because our away form is far too good for us to be relegated. Unbeaten in five away now, only one defeat in seven, our lucky ground of Ipswich up next, and nothing to fear about going to the likes of Yeovil, Sheff Wed, Charlton, Donny, Millwall, Bournemouth, Bolton, Wigan and the rest! And we are bound to pick up some points at the Vic.........aren't we? Surely we cannot continue to lose every game......five is enough!! bristol hornet

9:52am Mon 16 Dec 13

grahamwfc says...

ramage1996 wrote:
Goldentrue1 wrote:
Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Boosey wrote:
Mr Watford of Watford wrote:
if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?
Who is the decent striker?
Brit Assombalonga! DOH!
When in earth will we lose this nonsensensical view that Britt would have been the answer to our prayers. The whole of the coaching squad at watford who will have seen him in training, friendliest etc, decided he was probably not good enough for the championship or higher, and a bunch of people who have never seen him play but just follow the results think they know better!
Clutching at straws
Oh well he is gone now, pace, power, poacher, long range goals, dribbling ability, good in the air, sets up goals thats scored 16 goals already this season!

Im sure we can get a 20 year striker like that coming through our youth team again.
That's the coaching staff who are doing such a great job at present then...............j
ust more evidence of their inability and insight
[quote][p][bold]ramage1996[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornets number 12 fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Watford of Watford[/bold] wrote: if they realised they would need several players for one position, why do we only have 1 decent striker and 1 rubbish striker?[/p][/quote]Who is the decent striker?[/p][/quote]Brit Assombalonga! DOH![/p][/quote]When in earth will we lose this nonsensensical view that Britt would have been the answer to our prayers. The whole of the coaching squad at watford who will have seen him in training, friendliest etc, decided he was probably not good enough for the championship or higher, and a bunch of people who have never seen him play but just follow the results think they know better! Clutching at straws[/p][/quote]Oh well he is gone now, pace, power, poacher, long range goals, dribbling ability, good in the air, sets up goals thats scored 16 goals already this season! Im sure we can get a 20 year striker like that coming through our youth team again.[/p][/quote]That's the coaching staff who are doing such a great job at present then...............j ust more evidence of their inability and insight grahamwfc

10:35am Mon 16 Dec 13

endean2 says...

The big question for me is how with the size of squad we have do we have only the one PROPER centre forward.

its beyond belief that our transfer policy is so woeful and short sighted.
I did say "big question", obviously many others to be answered!
The big question for me is how with the size of squad we have do we have only the one PROPER centre forward. its beyond belief that our transfer policy is so woeful and short sighted. I did say "big question", obviously many others to be answered! endean2

10:52am Mon 16 Dec 13

Harry's Bar says...

cliff46 wrote:
Maybe club management need to look at getting rid of some of the non performing players rather than Zola.
Having said that when most of the incoming players last season were loan players getting rid was not a problem but now most of them are on permanent contracts it wil probably be more difficult and more costly to do so.

One size did very well I thought given it was his first game of the season.
Yes, I thought he looked very comfortable considering he hasn't played for so long. A pity that Cassetti and Thorne were rather less assured.
[quote][p][bold]cliff46[/bold] wrote: Maybe club management need to look at getting rid of some of the non performing players rather than Zola. Having said that when most of the incoming players last season were loan players getting rid was not a problem but now most of them are on permanent contracts it wil probably be more difficult and more costly to do so. One size did very well I thought given it was his first game of the season.[/p][/quote]Yes, I thought he looked very comfortable considering he hasn't played for so long. A pity that Cassetti and Thorne were rather less assured. Harry's Bar

11:42am Mon 16 Dec 13

MJ1 says...

Sorry but I don't buy this spin that the Pozzos do not control recruitment policy.
Our squad may have diminished from the 45 at the beginning of the 2012/13 season to 28 today but of them only 9 survive from the pre-Pozzo era (and that includes recently promoted academy players) with 19 brought in by the Pozzos. Of those 15 are from Udinese/Granada. If our pre Pozzo squad - only four survive as regular players - Deeney, Doyley, Nosworthy and Murray. we have transferred out very good squad players who are first choice at their new clubs e.g. Eustace, Forsyth, Hogg, Assimbolonga. Our squad is now unbalanced with so-called strikers who are incapable of putting away the simplest of chances.
We are now 18 months into the Pozzo experiment and things have gone pear-shaped. It's difficult to see how we are going to get out of this cycle that could see us relegated on current form - just 4 points out of 27 and no win since 5th October is relegation form. There is no resilience in the sqaud, no leadership on the field and arguably no leadership off it. The Pozzo plan (if we can call it that - more like a business model) is a castle built on sand. Forget promotion; this season is now about survival and we will only do that with a new manager who can marshall the inadequate squad we have and stop the rot.
Sorry but I don't buy this spin that the Pozzos do not control recruitment policy. Our squad may have diminished from the 45 at the beginning of the 2012/13 season to 28 today but of them only 9 survive from the pre-Pozzo era (and that includes recently promoted academy players) with 19 brought in by the Pozzos. Of those 15 are from Udinese/Granada. If our pre Pozzo squad - only four survive as regular players - Deeney, Doyley, Nosworthy and Murray. we have transferred out very good squad players who are first choice at their new clubs e.g. Eustace, Forsyth, Hogg, Assimbolonga. Our squad is now unbalanced with so-called strikers who are incapable of putting away the simplest of chances. We are now 18 months into the Pozzo experiment and things have gone pear-shaped. It's difficult to see how we are going to get out of this cycle that could see us relegated on current form - just 4 points out of 27 and no win since 5th October is relegation form. There is no resilience in the sqaud, no leadership on the field and arguably no leadership off it. The Pozzo plan (if we can call it that - more like a business model) is a castle built on sand. Forget promotion; this season is now about survival and we will only do that with a new manager who can marshall the inadequate squad we have and stop the rot. MJ1

12:10pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards !

Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived....

Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both.
If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards ! Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived.... Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both. Mickey Quinn, not so thin

12:26pm Mon 16 Dec 13

endean2 says...

both
both endean2

12:33pm Mon 16 Dec 13

demerit says...

The Watford Warbler wrote:
demerit wrote:
The Watford Warbler wrote:
Reading everyone's opinions its good to see how many people care about Watford but also sad to see so much in house fighting. The Watford warbler is calling all Watford fans to stop fighting, be careful as on this site there are a few closet luton fans purposely stirring things up, the Watford warbler has already exposed one of them last night. The Watford warbler has told you all for months zola must go, so that is the end of it, and I wont let you down I will have him out of the job before Christmas. WHEN THE WATFORD WARBLER TALKS, YOU LISTEN!
Whilst I agree that Zola must go, why don't you change "Warbler" to "W****r"?
Because it would be a bit arrogant although correct to call my self the watford winner. Why did you use ***** in the middle of winner its not that hard to spell. Dont worry the WATFORD WARBLER will take you under his mighty wing and keep an eye on you ;)
I have already apologised WW so please don't take it too personally - which you clearly haven't!
[quote][p][bold]The Watford Warbler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Watford Warbler[/bold] wrote: Reading everyone's opinions its good to see how many people care about Watford but also sad to see so much in house fighting. The Watford warbler is calling all Watford fans to stop fighting, be careful as on this site there are a few closet luton fans purposely stirring things up, the Watford warbler has already exposed one of them last night. The Watford warbler has told you all for months zola must go, so that is the end of it, and I wont let you down I will have him out of the job before Christmas. WHEN THE WATFORD WARBLER TALKS, YOU LISTEN![/p][/quote]Whilst I agree that Zola must go, why don't you change "Warbler" to "W****r"?[/p][/quote]Because it would be a bit arrogant although correct to call my self the watford winner. Why did you use ***** in the middle of winner its not that hard to spell. Dont worry the WATFORD WARBLER will take you under his mighty wing and keep an eye on you ;)[/p][/quote]I have already apologised WW so please don't take it too personally - which you clearly haven't! demerit

12:36pm Mon 16 Dec 13

demerit says...

The Watford Warbler wrote:
demerit wrote:
The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Interesting timing of this article!
Yes, it means another nail in Zola's coffin and paves the way for someone else to come in that knows he will have the final say.....clever move.
clever and calculated move, however there have been a few people posting on here the board need to make a comment, so they have! People have also been saying the board need to come out and back the manager, yet the board have never ever done anything to undermine Zola or bad mouth him, by comming out and saying they back him the dreaded vote of confidence it would put him under more pressure. The WATFORD WARBLERS final thought, zola is a great man but terrible manager with no tactical knowledge, he should do the hounerable thing and leave, its not like he needs the money! The WATFORD WARBLER will have him removed by Christmas though what ever happens so rest assuared
Agreed. Depends on what happens in the next match. If we win, he may last into January.

I have given you a positive score so one more vote and you'll be on zero...
[quote][p][bold]The Watford Warbler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: Interesting timing of this article![/p][/quote]Yes, it means another nail in Zola's coffin and paves the way for someone else to come in that knows he will have the final say.....clever move.[/p][/quote]clever and calculated move, however there have been a few people posting on here the board need to make a comment, so they have! People have also been saying the board need to come out and back the manager, yet the board have never ever done anything to undermine Zola or bad mouth him, by comming out and saying they back him the dreaded vote of confidence it would put him under more pressure. The WATFORD WARBLERS final thought, zola is a great man but terrible manager with no tactical knowledge, he should do the hounerable thing and leave, its not like he needs the money! The WATFORD WARBLER will have him removed by Christmas though what ever happens so rest assuared[/p][/quote]Agreed. Depends on what happens in the next match. If we win, he may last into January. I have given you a positive score so one more vote and you'll be on zero... demerit

1:57pm Mon 16 Dec 13

KeithMercer says...

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards !

Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived....

Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both.
Throw POOR support into that equation !! Even at Wembley in a winner takes all game we couldnt get most of you loud mouth moaners to make a sound.
Now its everybody elses fault of course.
[quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards ! Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived.... Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both.[/p][/quote]Throw POOR support into that equation !! Even at Wembley in a winner takes all game we couldnt get most of you loud mouth moaners to make a sound. Now its everybody elses fault of course. KeithMercer

2:33pm Mon 16 Dec 13

SAHornet says...

KeithMercer wrote:
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards !

Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived....

Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both.
Throw POOR support into that equation !! Even at Wembley in a winner takes all game we couldnt get most of you loud mouth moaners to make a sound.
Now its everybody elses fault of course.
Very good point you make there J. As you know, I can't get to games but I was there at Wembley and was frankly embarrassed at how we were out-sung and generally out-supported throughout that game. I would love to hear a players perspective on what that feels like at a home game. I don't think it applies away from home as I can clearly hear the away Watford fans throughout away games as I listen on Hornets Player here in SA. That, at least makes me proud.
[quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards ! Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived.... Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both.[/p][/quote]Throw POOR support into that equation !! Even at Wembley in a winner takes all game we couldnt get most of you loud mouth moaners to make a sound. Now its everybody elses fault of course.[/p][/quote]Very good point you make there J. As you know, I can't get to games but I was there at Wembley and was frankly embarrassed at how we were out-sung and generally out-supported throughout that game. I would love to hear a players perspective on what that feels like at a home game. I don't think it applies away from home as I can clearly hear the away Watford fans throughout away games as I listen on Hornets Player here in SA. That, at least makes me proud. SAHornet

2:54pm Mon 16 Dec 13

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

KeithMercer wrote:
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards !

Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived....

Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both.
Throw POOR support into that equation !! Even at Wembley in a winner takes all game we couldnt get most of you loud mouth moaners to make a sound.
Now its everybody elses fault of course.
Can't be denied but Wembley was partly due to the spreading out of the vocal element and the awful spineless disinterested performance by the team. We all know our support is most valuable when things aren't going well but its so difficult to create noise and support when you don't see the effort/leadership on the pitch, as was the case on Saturday. Agree its better away but then the results have not been so dire away from home.
[quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards ! Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived.... Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both.[/p][/quote]Throw POOR support into that equation !! Even at Wembley in a winner takes all game we couldnt get most of you loud mouth moaners to make a sound. Now its everybody elses fault of course.[/p][/quote]Can't be denied but Wembley was partly due to the spreading out of the vocal element and the awful spineless disinterested performance by the team. We all know our support is most valuable when things aren't going well but its so difficult to create noise and support when you don't see the effort/leadership on the pitch, as was the case on Saturday. Agree its better away but then the results have not been so dire away from home. Mickey Quinn, not so thin

3:06pm Mon 16 Dec 13

bushey tales says...

.......and I always thought the pithy wisdom and insight of SA Hornet was emanating from St Albans. Who knows............may
be he's in Saudi Arabia?
.......and I always thought the pithy wisdom and insight of SA Hornet was emanating from St Albans. Who knows............may be he's in Saudi Arabia? bushey tales

3:17pm Mon 16 Dec 13

KeithMercer says...

SAHornet wrote:
KeithMercer wrote:
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards !

Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived....

Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both.
Throw POOR support into that equation !! Even at Wembley in a winner takes all game we couldnt get most of you loud mouth moaners to make a sound.
Now its everybody elses fault of course.
Very good point you make there J. As you know, I can't get to games but I was there at Wembley and was frankly embarrassed at how we were out-sung and generally out-supported throughout that game. I would love to hear a players perspective on what that feels like at a home game. I don't think it applies away from home as I can clearly hear the away Watford fans throughout away games as I listen on Hornets Player here in SA. That, at least makes me proud.
Dave I was lucky enough to be at the Fans Forum at the Vic last week and GFZ made several veiled pleas for the Supporters to create some noise/atmosphere !! his actual words were that it like having 12000 hands pushing the ball towards the opposition goal and that it made a hell of a difference to the players mindset and confidence . He also understands that it is up to the players to give the crowd something to get excited about.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: If they ARE going to make a change, better to do it before the Jan window than afterwards ! Still not sure who we could get to replace GZ. Clarke/Di Matteo would not be interested in dropping a league to a small club with questionable say over which players are brought in. A trad English manager would not work with the Italian ownership connection and largely overseas players. I had a nightmare last night that Di Canio arrived.... Still not sure if we just have a poor manager, or just poor players, or both.[/p][/quote]Throw POOR support into that equation !! Even at Wembley in a winner takes all game we couldnt get most of you loud mouth moaners to make a sound. Now its everybody elses fault of course.[/p][/quote]Very good point you make there J. As you know, I can't get to games but I was there at Wembley and was frankly embarrassed at how we were out-sung and generally out-supported throughout that game. I would love to hear a players perspective on what that feels like at a home game. I don't think it applies away from home as I can clearly hear the away Watford fans throughout away games as I listen on Hornets Player here in SA. That, at least makes me proud.[/p][/quote]Dave I was lucky enough to be at the Fans Forum at the Vic last week and GFZ made several veiled pleas for the Supporters to create some noise/atmosphere !! his actual words were that it like having 12000 hands pushing the ball towards the opposition goal and that it made a hell of a difference to the players mindset and confidence . He also understands that it is up to the players to give the crowd something to get excited about. KeithMercer

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