Troy Deeney scores late on to salvage 3-3 draw for Watford against Leeds United in the Championship

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Troy Deeney scored two goals, including one four minutes from time, to salvage a valuable point for Watford in an enthralling 3-3 draw at Leeds United.

The Hornets led 2-0 at half-time after a superb counter-attacking display in the first half saw Deeney and Cristian Battocchio find the net.

Leeds though came back brilliantly in the second period and turned the game on its head with goals from Danny Pugh, Matt Smith and Ross McCormack.

Just as all three points looked to be going to the home side however, Deeney stunned Elland Road with a late goal to ensure the spoils were shared.

Gianfranco Zola made two changes to the side which battled its way to a 0-0 draw at Burnley on Tuesday night but kept faith with the same 4-5-1 formation.

Daniel Pudil came in at left-back for Marco Cassetti, while the fit-again and new-look Ikechi Anya – after having his hair shaved off – replaced Sean Murray on the left side of midfield.

Leeds came into the game seeking a fifth win in six matches – and a sixth straight home success – and Brian McDermott made just the one change with Sam Byram replacing Tom Lees, who was not involved.

Jonathan Bond was the first keeper to be pressed into action in the third minute when the ball was worked to McCormack on the left and his cross was met by Matt Smith, who got above Joel Ekstrand, but the Hornets stopper was not unduly troubled.

Moments later, Rodolph Austin chanced his arm with a left-footed strike from 20 or so yards out but dragged it wide of Bond’s left-hand post.

There was no surprise the hosts were trying to force the early running and they had another opening when a free-kick from the left was headed over the top by Marius Zaliukas. Soon after though, Battocchio latched on to a loose ball in midfield and broke down the right before standing up a cross which Hector Bellerin glanced wide of the upright.

But Watford could have found themselves behind in the ninth minute when Nyron Nosworthy gave away possession and Austin broke through on goal but saw his shot blocked by Bond and Murphy fired the rebound over the rebound from the edge of the area.

Having survived that scare, Watford weren’t too far away from taking the lead when excellent work from Davide Faraoni breaking forward from right-back saw him set up Anya, who got goal-side of Zaliuklas but saw his shot well saved by Paddy Kenny.

The opening exchanges were very open but with their next opportunity the Hornets did make the breakthrough to end their three-game barren run in front of goal.

Lewis McGugan initially looked as if he would try and play in Bellerin to his right but after getting a favourable bounce off a defender, he came inside the penalty area before another helpful ricochet saw the ball break loose and Deeney didn’t need a second invitation, hitting a first-time right-footed finish from around 15 yards which surprised Kenny as it beat him at his near post to net his eighth of the season.

A succession of free-kicks then saw the match became rather scrappy but the next reasonable chance fell the visitors’ way in the 24th minute when McGugan put Anya in on the left side of the area and he hit a left-footed strike across goal which beat the dive of Kenny but also the far post.

McCormack saw a 25-yard free-kick blocked behind for a corner before Byram played a superb ball in from the right which Nosworthy just got enough on to take it away from McCormack and behind for another set piece.

Another chance came and went for the hosts in the 30th minute when a through ball rebounded off Ekstrand and fell nicely for Smith on the edge of the area but he pulled his shot narrowly wide of the far post.

Either side of that though, Pudil had needed treatment after Austin had thundered into a challenge to cleanly win the ball and then a visibly angry George Thorne also required the help of the phsyio after being caught in the face by an elbow – an incident missed by referee Trevor Kettle.

A fine reverse pass from McCormack but Smith through on goal in the 38th minute but the assistant’s flag was already raised before his attempted left-footed finish was helped over the target by a fine stop from Bond.

Danny Pugh was the first player to be booked a minute from the end of normal time at the end of the first half for diving in the penalty area but Nosworthy was again fortunate because he chested the ball down, dwelt briefly and hung out a leg.

But that was rapidly forgotten though, as within a minute the Hornets had established clear daylight over their opponents with a brilliant counter-attacking goal.

It originated after Leeds, much to Ekstrand’s annoyance, were awarded a free-kick towards the right side of the penalty area.

Byram whipped in the ball at pace, Bond did well to get through a crowd of players and punch it clear to the edge of the area where Bellerin picked up the ball and accelerated downfield on the left.

Before Watford knew it, they were four-on-one and the Arsenal loanee deserved credit for having the awareness to lay the ball inside to Battocchio.

Initially it looked as if he might the spurn the chance as he checked inside and then out again but in the end he managed to slide the ball into the net via Kenny’s left-hand post to make it 2-0 at the break.

There was no surprise that Leeds were quickly out of the blocks after the restart and within 30 seconds a back-tracking Bond was having to tip a looping Smith header over his own bar. The Hornets keeper was then blocked off as he tried to reach the resultant corner from the left and Smith got up highest to head over the top.

With their next chance though, Leeds did score.

The visitors made a mess of attempting to clear a low ball in from the right from McCormack as Thorne’s attempted clearance rebounded off a teammate and across to the other side of the area to Pugh, who got around Nosworthy and with Bond committed and going to ground, the left-sided midfielder lifted the ball across goal and into the far corner to reduce the deficit to 2-1.

Within six minutes, the game was all-square.

The Hornets were appealing for a free-kick after losing the ball in midfield and were opened up as Peltier played a fine cross-field ball out to the right where McCormack advanced before standing up a cross to Smith, who rose highest at the back post to head down and past Bond.

Having been pegged back, Watford desperately needed to regain their composure but how they got through the next five minutes without conceding at least one more is anyone’s guess.

Initially at least it was thanks to Bond’s heroics, as he produced a magnificent reaction stop to deny Austin as the ball was played in from the right and then somehow deflect the United midfielder’s follow-up behind for a corner.

Then from the resultant corner, the Hornets stopper produced another magnificent save to push over McCormack’s header. Still the onslaught continued as from the next corner, an Alex Mowatt shot was deflected up and onto the bar from an outstretched Watford leg.

But having got through that spell, the Hornets almost defied the way the game had gone since the goal as McGugan cut in from the left and his bending effort from 25 yards forced Kenny into a diving save.

With the home fans on their feet, Leeds continued to pile the pressure on the Watford goal but the Hornets survived a raucous ten-minute spell without conceding again.

Zola replaced the impressive but tiring McGugan with Sean Murray just before the hour and Leeds’ assault on the visitors’ goal began to subside slightly. Faraoni was brought off for Marco Cassetti as the Hornets looked to gain a foothold in the match.

On 75 minutes the stadium erupted again though when Smith thought he had given his team a 3-2 lead as he headed home at the back post but Leeds’ celebrations were curtailed by the linesman’s offside flag.

Four minutes later however, the hosts did take the lead. Austin’s straight ball over the top caught out Nosworthy as McCormack peeled off the defender’s shoulder before poking the ball past Bond and into the net.

With the game turned on its head, Leeds suddenly started to sit back. Battocchio tested Kenny with a tame shot from the edge of the area but the veteran stopper held on.

Watford started to enjoy possession for the first time in the half and with just four minutes left on the clock, the visitors drew level.

Thorne hit a rasping shot from long range and while Kenny was equal to it, he could only parry the ball into the path of Deeney who slammed home for 3-3.

Both teams went in search of a late winner but it was Watford who could have stolen all three points at the death as Deeney broke down the right and picked out Joel Ekstrand at the back post but the centre half was unable to finish.

Watford remain 12th in the Championship. The Hornets' next game is at home to Sheffield Wednesday.

Leeds United: Kenny; Peltier, Zaliukas, Pearce; Byram, Murphy, Mowatt, Pugh; Austin; Smith, McCormack. Not used: Cairns, Drury, Varney, Warnock, Brown, Tonge, Poleon.

Watford: Bond; Faraoni (Cassetti 73), Nosworthy, Ekstrand, Pudil; Bellerin, Battocchio, (Hall 90) Thorne, McGugan (Murray 67), Anya; Deeney. Not used: Woods, Forestieri, Fabbrini, Iriney.

Bookings: Pugh for simulation (44); Ekstrand for a foul (90).

Attendance: 23,445

Referee: Trevor Kettle.

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5:22pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Bush Hornet says...

2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.
2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done. Bush Hornet

5:25pm Sat 7 Dec 13

stevemag says...

Derek Payne couldn't understand why McGugan was subbed as he was having a brilliant game. Would love to hear opinion of anyone who was at the game
Derek Payne couldn't understand why McGugan was subbed as he was having a brilliant game. Would love to hear opinion of anyone who was at the game stevemag

5:25pm Sat 7 Dec 13

paultheshrink says...

Wow! I'd have taken that at 3 pm.
Wow! I'd have taken that at 3 pm. paultheshrink

5:26pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Boosey says...

A very good point or two dropped? I don't honestly know, certainly feels disappointing after being two up but hopefully three points next week.
A very good point or two dropped? I don't honestly know, certainly feels disappointing after being two up but hopefully three points next week. Boosey

5:28pm Sat 7 Dec 13

-Nightingale- says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.
i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.[/p][/quote]i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches -Nightingale-

5:31pm Sat 7 Dec 13

WessexLad says...

Wow! What a game - I do hope it's the lead on the Football League show. It would take the whole programme to do it justice, though.

I don'r know how the players are feeling, but Jon Marks superb commentary on 3CR has left me totally spent. When we went 3-2 down, he did suggest that Gianfranco might come under pressure, but not in my book if we continue to play like that, even if we had lost.

Now let's make the Vic a happy hunting ground again! COYH!
Wow! What a game - I do hope it's the lead on the Football League show. It would take the whole programme to do it justice, though. I don'r know how the players are feeling, but Jon Marks superb commentary on 3CR has left me totally spent. When we went 3-2 down, he did suggest that Gianfranco might come under pressure, but not in my book if we continue to play like that, even if we had lost. Now let's make the Vic a happy hunting ground again! COYH! WessexLad

5:32pm Sat 7 Dec 13

mickallen57 says...

Sounds like a great game listening on 3CR . Nice to see Anya back and in such good form. Also good to see Troy back in goal scoring mood.
Thought at half time that we were going to take all three points, but although disappointed at the Leeds come back was proud of the Horns fight to get back in the game and nearly nicked it in the end. Corner turned I think COYH
Sounds like a great game listening on 3CR . Nice to see Anya back and in such good form. Also good to see Troy back in goal scoring mood. Thought at half time that we were going to take all three points, but although disappointed at the Leeds come back was proud of the Horns fight to get back in the game and nearly nicked it in the end. Corner turned I think COYH mickallen57

5:33pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Watfordwes says...

It's nice to feel disappointed with a high scoring draw though, roll on a couple of disappointing 1 nil home wins ...
It's nice to feel disappointed with a high scoring draw though, roll on a couple of disappointing 1 nil home wins ... Watfordwes

5:39pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Stoney77 says...

Sounds like a fantastic game of football and that Leeds had the better chances so I'm pretty happy with the result. Disappointing to draw after having been 2-0 up but credit to Leeds for coming out strongly after half time and fantastic for us to battle back for a draw after going behind though, it's nice to be on the right end of a late goal! Reading the twitter feed is a total joke during games. I cannot believe how fickle some people are:
We go from being the greatest team in the world now back in form and are going to storm the league, to sacking Zola within 20 minutes!!
Anyway, Leeds are a decent side in great form, we're a decent side in poor form so you've got to be content with 3-3.... Need to take these improved performances back to The Vic and tighten up at the back.
Sounds like a fantastic game of football and that Leeds had the better chances so I'm pretty happy with the result. Disappointing to draw after having been 2-0 up but credit to Leeds for coming out strongly after half time and fantastic for us to battle back for a draw after going behind though, it's nice to be on the right end of a late goal! Reading the twitter feed is a total joke during games. I cannot believe how fickle some people are: We go from being the greatest team in the world now back in form and are going to storm the league, to sacking Zola within 20 minutes!! Anyway, Leeds are a decent side in great form, we're a decent side in poor form so you've got to be content with 3-3.... Need to take these improved performances back to The Vic and tighten up at the back. Stoney77

5:40pm Sat 7 Dec 13

watford1881 says...

Display almost as important as the score.. Started scoring again but still can't defend.. At the end anybody but Joel Ex....
Display almost as important as the score.. Started scoring again but still can't defend.. At the end anybody but Joel Ex.... watford1881

5:42pm Sat 7 Dec 13

paultheshrink says...

-Nightingale- wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.
i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches
Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain.
Did that help?
[quote][p][bold]-Nightingale-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.[/p][/quote]i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches[/p][/quote]Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain. Did that help? paultheshrink

5:48pm Sat 7 Dec 13

watford4ever says...

Sounded like a great game listening on Hornet player. Always disappointing to concede a 0-2 lead but this is still a good result for us away to an inform team. Lot's of positive don't understand how "fans" can be knocking Zola for this result.
Sounded like a great game listening on Hornet player. Always disappointing to concede a 0-2 lead but this is still a good result for us away to an inform team. Lot's of positive don't understand how "fans" can be knocking Zola for this result. watford4ever

5:53pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny says...

Happily in the pro Zola camp, although I would suggest Troy saved him his job today.
Time to kick on now with a massive home game coming, Sheffield Wednesday is very winnable, we can gain some momentum if we do.
Just hope the lads can relax and play our football, with Anya back, Abdi and Angella to come things may finally be looking up!
Happily in the pro Zola camp, although I would suggest Troy saved him his job today. Time to kick on now with a massive home game coming, Sheffield Wednesday is very winnable, we can gain some momentum if we do. Just hope the lads can relax and play our football, with Anya back, Abdi and Angella to come things may finally be looking up! Ronny oh Ronny Ronny

6:07pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Abbots hornet says...

Sounded like a great game.Great commentary by Jon Marks.Would have taken a point from both Turf Moor and Elland Road so fair play this week! Showed character after taking a battering by Leeds in the second half Bond made some great saves.heart was in my mouth when Ekstrand had a chance to win it! Massive game next Saturday must get behind them hopefully with Abdi back!
Sounded like a great game.Great commentary by Jon Marks.Would have taken a point from both Turf Moor and Elland Road so fair play this week! Showed character after taking a battering by Leeds in the second half Bond made some great saves.heart was in my mouth when Ekstrand had a chance to win it! Massive game next Saturday must get behind them hopefully with Abdi back! Abbots hornet

6:09pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Poppet Bear says...

At last !!!.............a late goal for us ...... Whoopee !!!!
At last !!!.............a late goal for us ...... Whoopee !!!! Poppet Bear

6:12pm Sat 7 Dec 13

garry.armstrong232@btinternet.com says...

ROLL ON THE 14TH LETS GET BACK TO WINNING WAYS AGAIN
ROLL ON THE 14TH LETS GET BACK TO WINNING WAYS AGAIN garry.armstrong232@btinternet.com

6:16pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

paultheshrink wrote:
-Nightingale- wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.
i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches
Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain.
Did that help?
surely that makes 1-0 even more dangerous?
[quote][p][bold]paultheshrink[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]-Nightingale-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.[/p][/quote]i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches[/p][/quote]Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain. Did that help?[/p][/quote]surely that makes 1-0 even more dangerous? Hornet Cornet

6:16pm Sat 7 Dec 13

endean2 says...

Just back to the hotel after the gamt, great away support,very vocal and right to the end
want to know what sort of club Leeds are? For the minutes silence, they announced that Mandela and BRemener had anniversary dates for their deaths!!!!'!!!!!!! Pure class from a **** club.

The game? We have no idea whatsoever how to defend,at the start of the 2nh half we went to pieces,I have never seen a Watford team less effective
In the air. iT took Leeds a while to work out that all they need to do was lump
The ball into the area and GOAL. That simple!

It was a point gained not 3 lost as they battered us for the last 45mins
Some good performances but Deaney left to forage on his lonesome
And poor old Noss, we'll
I think Hall should have started as he is the only player we have who has
Aerial presence, great excitement but dire in defenses
We're from here.
Just back to the hotel after the gamt, great away support,very vocal and right to the end want to know what sort of club Leeds are? For the minutes silence, they announced that Mandela and BRemener had anniversary dates for their deaths!!!!'!!!!!!! Pure class from a **** club. The game? We have no idea whatsoever how to defend,at the start of the 2nh half we went to pieces,I have never seen a Watford team less effective In the air. iT took Leeds a while to work out that all they need to do was lump The ball into the area and GOAL. That simple! It was a point gained not 3 lost as they battered us for the last 45mins Some good performances but Deaney left to forage on his lonesome And poor old Noss, we'll I think Hall should have started as he is the only player we have who has Aerial presence, great excitement but dire in defenses We're from here. endean2

6:37pm Sat 7 Dec 13

AngelHornet says...

stevemag wrote:
Derek Payne couldn't understand why McGugan was subbed as he was having a brilliant game. Would love to hear opinion of anyone who was at the game
I was informed by someone at the game that McGugan and Pudil were poor
[quote][p][bold]stevemag[/bold] wrote: Derek Payne couldn't understand why McGugan was subbed as he was having a brilliant game. Would love to hear opinion of anyone who was at the game[/p][/quote]I was informed by someone at the game that McGugan and Pudil were poor AngelHornet

6:44pm Sat 7 Dec 13

-Nightingale- says...

paultheshrink wrote:
-Nightingale- wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.
i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches
Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain.
Did that help?
No. If Watford score they are 3-0 up. I'd rather be 2-0 up than 0-0 . I wish we had a 'dangerous' 2-0 half time lead every week.
[quote][p][bold]paultheshrink[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]-Nightingale-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.[/p][/quote]i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches[/p][/quote]Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain. Did that help?[/p][/quote]No. If Watford score they are 3-0 up. I'd rather be 2-0 up than 0-0 . I wish we had a 'dangerous' 2-0 half time lead every week. -Nightingale-

6:45pm Sat 7 Dec 13

-Nightingale- says...

paultheshrink wrote:
-Nightingale- wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.
i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches
Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain.
Did that help?
No. If Watford score they are 3-0 up. I'd rather be 2-0 up than 0-0 . I wish we had a 'dangerous' 2-0 half time lead every week.
[quote][p][bold]paultheshrink[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]-Nightingale-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.[/p][/quote]i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches[/p][/quote]Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain. Did that help?[/p][/quote]No. If Watford score they are 3-0 up. I'd rather be 2-0 up than 0-0 . I wish we had a 'dangerous' 2-0 half time lead every week. -Nightingale-

6:49pm Sat 7 Dec 13

grinns67 says...

Zola out!!!!!!!!
Zola out!!!!!!!! grinns67

7:13pm Sat 7 Dec 13

SCMW57 says...

grinns67 wrote:
Zola out!!!!!!!!
We need a defensive coach to work alongside Zola.
We are light years ahead of where we were 2 years ago - on and off the pitch.
.....so comments like yours are a waste of space.
[quote][p][bold]grinns67[/bold] wrote: Zola out!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]We need a defensive coach to work alongside Zola. We are light years ahead of where we were 2 years ago - on and off the pitch. .....so comments like yours are a waste of space. SCMW57

7:14pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do.

I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era.

There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go.

HC
I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do. I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era. There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go. HC Hornet Cornet

7:37pm Sat 7 Dec 13

errollg says...

The guys worked hard. I hate to say it but we could have easily conceded 6. Nyron gave away 2 really poor goals. The last was a simple punt forward. There are a good number of things to fix, but really pleased with a point.coyh
The guys worked hard. I hate to say it but we could have easily conceded 6. Nyron gave away 2 really poor goals. The last was a simple punt forward. There are a good number of things to fix, but really pleased with a point.coyh errollg

7:47pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Bobbyhowfield says...

Good battling performance
Good battling performance Bobbyhowfield

7:49pm Sat 7 Dec 13

WessexLad says...

Battochio v England in Manaus?
Battochio v England in Manaus? WessexLad

7:51pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Paulh1 says...

endean2 wrote:
Just back to the hotel after the gamt, great away support,very vocal and right to the end
want to know what sort of club Leeds are? For the minutes silence, they announced that Mandela and BRemener had anniversary dates for their deaths!!!!'!!!!!!! Pure class from a **** club.

The game? We have no idea whatsoever how to defend,at the start of the 2nh half we went to pieces,I have never seen a Watford team less effective
In the air. iT took Leeds a while to work out that all they need to do was lump
The ball into the area and GOAL. That simple!

It was a point gained not 3 lost as they battered us for the last 45mins
Some good performances but Deaney left to forage on his lonesome
And poor old Noss, we'll
I think Hall should have started as he is the only player we have who has
Aerial presence, great excitement but dire in defenses
We're from here.
Absolute rubbish criticism of Leeds United FC... All due respect for what Mandela has done for certain people but he's hasn't directly affected many people at today's game. Bremner is idolised by many at Elland road so he deserved his applause on the anniversary of his death. Did you expect us to leave it until next week to do it... Erm... Not a chance !
[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: Just back to the hotel after the gamt, great away support,very vocal and right to the end want to know what sort of club Leeds are? For the minutes silence, they announced that Mandela and BRemener had anniversary dates for their deaths!!!!'!!!!!!! Pure class from a **** club. The game? We have no idea whatsoever how to defend,at the start of the 2nh half we went to pieces,I have never seen a Watford team less effective In the air. iT took Leeds a while to work out that all they need to do was lump The ball into the area and GOAL. That simple! It was a point gained not 3 lost as they battered us for the last 45mins Some good performances but Deaney left to forage on his lonesome And poor old Noss, we'll I think Hall should have started as he is the only player we have who has Aerial presence, great excitement but dire in defenses We're from here.[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish criticism of Leeds United FC... All due respect for what Mandela has done for certain people but he's hasn't directly affected many people at today's game. Bremner is idolised by many at Elland road so he deserved his applause on the anniversary of his death. Did you expect us to leave it until next week to do it... Erm... Not a chance ! Paulh1

7:52pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Bobbyhowfield says...

Sometime we don't realise how good our football is.
On the way out of the ground I heard a Leeds fan say to his mate that could not see how we have not won in 7 games.
He thought we played an exciting style which was better than any other team this year.
Sometime we don't realise how good our football is. On the way out of the ground I heard a Leeds fan say to his mate that could not see how we have not won in 7 games. He thought we played an exciting style which was better than any other team this year. Bobbyhowfield

7:54pm Sat 7 Dec 13

There was only one Scully says...

We really do seem to have a lot of keyboard doom subscribers on here who are eager to come up with the negatives but are slow when it comes to the positives like today.
This is all about carving out a result and building confidence and the last two games this week have started that road back for us.
Roll on next Saturday, I think we could be in for a treat and a good positive result for us.
We really do seem to have a lot of keyboard doom subscribers on here who are eager to come up with the negatives but are slow when it comes to the positives like today. This is all about carving out a result and building confidence and the last two games this week have started that road back for us. Roll on next Saturday, I think we could be in for a treat and a good positive result for us. There was only one Scully

7:55pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny says...

What's with all the thumbs down??? Does everyone want Zola out or something?
What's with all the thumbs down??? Does everyone want Zola out or something? Ronny oh Ronny Ronny

8:56pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Meridenman says...

Paulh1 wrote:
endean2 wrote:
Just back to the hotel after the gamt, great away support,very vocal and right to the end
want to know what sort of club Leeds are? For the minutes silence, they announced that Mandela and BRemener had anniversary dates for their deaths!!!!'!!!!!!! Pure class from a **** club.

The game? We have no idea whatsoever how to defend,at the start of the 2nh half we went to pieces,I have never seen a Watford team less effective
In the air. iT took Leeds a while to work out that all they need to do was lump
The ball into the area and GOAL. That simple!

It was a point gained not 3 lost as they battered us for the last 45mins
Some good performances but Deaney left to forage on his lonesome
And poor old Noss, we'll
I think Hall should have started as he is the only player we have who has
Aerial presence, great excitement but dire in defenses
We're from here.
Absolute rubbish criticism of Leeds United FC... All due respect for what Mandela has done for certain people but he's hasn't directly affected many people at today's game. Bremner is idolised by many at Elland road so he deserved his applause on the anniversary of his death. Did you expect us to leave it until next week to do it... Erm... Not a chance !
Spot on, no one quibbling over showing respect for mr Mandela but billy Bremner was mr Leeds so it is possible to show due respect for both gentlemen at what happened to be the same occasion. Let's face it would we have felt any different if it had been at the Vic honouring keith Dublin?
[quote][p][bold]Paulh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: Just back to the hotel after the gamt, great away support,very vocal and right to the end want to know what sort of club Leeds are? For the minutes silence, they announced that Mandela and BRemener had anniversary dates for their deaths!!!!'!!!!!!! Pure class from a **** club. The game? We have no idea whatsoever how to defend,at the start of the 2nh half we went to pieces,I have never seen a Watford team less effective In the air. iT took Leeds a while to work out that all they need to do was lump The ball into the area and GOAL. That simple! It was a point gained not 3 lost as they battered us for the last 45mins Some good performances but Deaney left to forage on his lonesome And poor old Noss, we'll I think Hall should have started as he is the only player we have who has Aerial presence, great excitement but dire in defenses We're from here.[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish criticism of Leeds United FC... All due respect for what Mandela has done for certain people but he's hasn't directly affected many people at today's game. Bremner is idolised by many at Elland road so he deserved his applause on the anniversary of his death. Did you expect us to leave it until next week to do it... Erm... Not a chance ![/p][/quote]Spot on, no one quibbling over showing respect for mr Mandela but billy Bremner was mr Leeds so it is possible to show due respect for both gentlemen at what happened to be the same occasion. Let's face it would we have felt any different if it had been at the Vic honouring keith Dublin? Meridenman

8:57pm Sat 7 Dec 13

lockerbiehornet says...

grinns67 wrote:
Zola out!!!!!!!!
Complete Dinlow
[quote][p][bold]grinns67[/bold] wrote: Zola out!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Complete Dinlow lockerbiehornet

9:43pm Sat 7 Dec 13

huntingdon hornet says...

grinns67 wrote:
Zola out!!!!!!!!
Not this tool again...

...these last 2 away performances could well be the corner turned. Now grind out a couple of gritty wins and I believe we will be back in the play-off mix by the New Year, and with a manager who has learned some valuable lessons about the balance between pure football and the steel & determination required to get a team out of the championship.

I agree with those who cite a defensive coach or experienced no2 as being of benefit to GFZ, as this would accelerate the learning process. However, love the journey we are on....be patient and remember where the club was at a few short years ago.
[quote][p][bold]grinns67[/bold] wrote: Zola out!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Not this tool again... ...these last 2 away performances could well be the corner turned. Now grind out a couple of gritty wins and I believe we will be back in the play-off mix by the New Year, and with a manager who has learned some valuable lessons about the balance between pure football and the steel & determination required to get a team out of the championship. I agree with those who cite a defensive coach or experienced no2 as being of benefit to GFZ, as this would accelerate the learning process. However, love the journey we are on....be patient and remember where the club was at a few short years ago. huntingdon hornet

10:04pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Cuetip says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do.

I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era.

There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go.

HC
Strange these negative scores. Can it be Leeds fans? 2 nil up every week will suit.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do. I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era. There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go. HC[/p][/quote]Strange these negative scores. Can it be Leeds fans? 2 nil up every week will suit. Cuetip

10:15pm Sat 7 Dec 13

MainStandShambles says...

There was only one Scully wrote:
We really do seem to have a lot of keyboard doom subscribers on here who are eager to come up with the negatives but are slow when it comes to the positives like today.
This is all about carving out a result and building confidence and the last two games this week have started that road back for us.
Roll on next Saturday, I think we could be in for a treat and a good positive result for us.
I couldn't agree more with the above sentiments but we mustn't take Wednesday for granted and assume that there are 3 points for the taking, they're a very wounded beast at the moment.

Two excellent points gained this week and we're scoring again so with points being dropped by teams above us let us all hope that we really are emerging from this season's slump.

Come on everybody let's BELIEVE we can do it.
[quote][p][bold]There was only one Scully[/bold] wrote: We really do seem to have a lot of keyboard doom subscribers on here who are eager to come up with the negatives but are slow when it comes to the positives like today. This is all about carving out a result and building confidence and the last two games this week have started that road back for us. Roll on next Saturday, I think we could be in for a treat and a good positive result for us.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more with the above sentiments but we mustn't take Wednesday for granted and assume that there are 3 points for the taking, they're a very wounded beast at the moment. Two excellent points gained this week and we're scoring again so with points being dropped by teams above us let us all hope that we really are emerging from this season's slump. Come on everybody let's BELIEVE we can do it. MainStandShambles

10:30pm Sat 7 Dec 13

paultheshrink says...

Cuetip wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do.

I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era.

There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go.

HC
Strange these negative scores. Can it be Leeds fans? 2 nil up every week will suit.
There's a problem with the site. I just gave you a thumbs up and it looked as if your score had gone up, but when I refreshed the page, it had gone down. Probably linked to the air traffic control thing!!!
[quote][p][bold]Cuetip[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do. I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era. There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go. HC[/p][/quote]Strange these negative scores. Can it be Leeds fans? 2 nil up every week will suit.[/p][/quote]There's a problem with the site. I just gave you a thumbs up and it looked as if your score had gone up, but when I refreshed the page, it had gone down. Probably linked to the air traffic control thing!!! paultheshrink

11:03pm Sat 7 Dec 13

justahornetfan says...

Slightly disappointed not to have won it 4-3 but 3-3 is a good result against Leeds at this time and we could have also lost 6-3 on the chances they had .

An important thing in my mind is the good overall performance and only a couple of changes from the team at Burnley. Also pleased that Bond kept his place as he deserved it.

Most importantly for the players, I think we need to be very vocal in our support from the moment the teams come out and up to the final whistle at the next home game as 4 previous home defeats and some Boos need to be exorcised from the players minds and the crowd can do all that is needed to make that happen.
I say welcome the team and Mr Zola back, show em we still love em and lets beat Sheffield Wednesday together. COYH
Slightly disappointed not to have won it 4-3 but 3-3 is a good result against Leeds at this time and we could have also lost 6-3 on the chances they had . An important thing in my mind is the good overall performance and only a couple of changes from the team at Burnley. Also pleased that Bond kept his place as he deserved it. Most importantly for the players, I think we need to be very vocal in our support from the moment the teams come out and up to the final whistle at the next home game as 4 previous home defeats and some Boos need to be exorcised from the players minds and the crowd can do all that is needed to make that happen. I say welcome the team and Mr Zola back, show em we still love em and lets beat Sheffield Wednesday together. COYH justahornetfan

11:47pm Sat 7 Dec 13

matey_from_brighton says...

AngelHornet wrote:
stevemag wrote:
Derek Payne couldn't understand why McGugan was subbed as he was having a brilliant game. Would love to hear opinion of anyone who was at the game
I was informed by someone at the game that McGugan and Pudil were poor
Well I was at the game and I think Mcgugan played well and brought a great save out of Kenny with score at 2-2(I think). He is creative going forward but I think Zola may have been thinking that we needed fresh legs in midfield as Leeds were generally on top. You could say it worked as we probably finished stronger than Leeds.
[quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevemag[/bold] wrote: Derek Payne couldn't understand why McGugan was subbed as he was having a brilliant game. Would love to hear opinion of anyone who was at the game[/p][/quote]I was informed by someone at the game that McGugan and Pudil were poor[/p][/quote]Well I was at the game and I think Mcgugan played well and brought a great save out of Kenny with score at 2-2(I think). He is creative going forward but I think Zola may have been thinking that we needed fresh legs in midfield as Leeds were generally on top. You could say it worked as we probably finished stronger than Leeds. matey_from_brighton

12:41am Sun 8 Dec 13

Dino1982 says...

WessexLad wrote:
Battochio v England in Manaus?
No chance!

Could be one for the future in Italy first 11, but he will have to continue and play well in the next 3-4 years.

Midfielders tend to be in the Italy team from about the age of 24 onwards, so bit time for him yet.

I think the likes of Pirlo, Motta, Montolivio, De Rossi, Marchisio and Diamati are just a little ahead of him just now, don't you think.

He always gives 100% and we need him in the WAtford side I think all the time.
[quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: Battochio v England in Manaus?[/p][/quote]No chance! Could be one for the future in Italy first 11, but he will have to continue and play well in the next 3-4 years. Midfielders tend to be in the Italy team from about the age of 24 onwards, so bit time for him yet. I think the likes of Pirlo, Motta, Montolivio, De Rossi, Marchisio and Diamati are just a little ahead of him just now, don't you think. He always gives 100% and we need him in the WAtford side I think all the time. Dino1982

2:05am Sun 8 Dec 13

watford4ever says...

Someone has hacked this site and set up a script to give thumbs down scores.
Watford observer please sort this out.
Someone has hacked this site and set up a script to give thumbs down scores. Watford observer please sort this out. watford4ever

10:24am Sun 8 Dec 13

CheshamMike60 says...

I've just watched the highlights of the game. Great result, but did you notice TD's reaction after his second goal. I hope I'm wrong, but there seems to be a major problem there.
I've just watched the highlights of the game. Great result, but did you notice TD's reaction after his second goal. I hope I'm wrong, but there seems to be a major problem there. CheshamMike60

10:32am Sun 8 Dec 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

-Nightingale- wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.
i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches
I agree with BH. It is dangerous because at 2-0 at HT, the game isn't put to bed. There is still a chance and the other team then comes out with all guns blazing. It then either works for them (as evidenced by what happened yesterday) or backfires. It is difficult at 3-0 down at HT to muster the confidence to come back from that.

Whilst typing, why have the first 4 posts got such awful votes. They all seem fairly innoculus to me.
[quote][p][bold]-Nightingale-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.[/p][/quote]i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches[/p][/quote]I agree with BH. It is dangerous because at 2-0 at HT, the game isn't put to bed. There is still a chance and the other team then comes out with all guns blazing. It then either works for them (as evidenced by what happened yesterday) or backfires. It is difficult at 3-0 down at HT to muster the confidence to come back from that. Whilst typing, why have the first 4 posts got such awful votes. They all seem fairly innoculus to me. Eastsussexhornet

10:34am Sun 8 Dec 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

-Nightingale- wrote:
paultheshrink wrote:
-Nightingale- wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.
i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches
Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain.
Did that help?
No. If Watford score they are 3-0 up. I'd rather be 2-0 up than 0-0 . I wish we had a 'dangerous' 2-0 half time lead every week.
Nightingale, please fly off to Berkley Square....
[quote][p][bold]-Nightingale-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paultheshrink[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]-Nightingale-[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline at HT but nevertheless the team have battled hard. And to get a point at Elland Road - which has been a fortress for the last 5 games with visitors leaving with nothing - just shows how well the boys have done.[/p][/quote]i have no idea why 2-0 is a dangerous scoreline. One of those annoying cliches[/p][/quote]Because if the other team score, they suddenly have the momentum - the side who concede move from being pretty comfortable to knowing a moments lapse and all the good work is in vain. Did that help?[/p][/quote]No. If Watford score they are 3-0 up. I'd rather be 2-0 up than 0-0 . I wish we had a 'dangerous' 2-0 half time lead every week.[/p][/quote]Nightingale, please fly off to Berkley Square.... Eastsussexhornet

10:53am Sun 8 Dec 13

KeithMercer says...

CheshamMike60 wrote:
I've just watched the highlights of the game. Great result, but did you notice TD's reaction after his second goal. I hope I'm wrong, but there seems to be a major problem there.
I think you have that wrong Mike , Troy was getting dogs abuse from the Leeds fans behind the goal, so he gave them the finger to mouth (shut up) and generally done his best to wind them up!. I may have it wrong as I was not actually there, but thats how it looked to me .
[quote][p][bold]CheshamMike60[/bold] wrote: I've just watched the highlights of the game. Great result, but did you notice TD's reaction after his second goal. I hope I'm wrong, but there seems to be a major problem there.[/p][/quote]I think you have that wrong Mike , Troy was getting dogs abuse from the Leeds fans behind the goal, so he gave them the finger to mouth (shut up) and generally done his best to wind them up!. I may have it wrong as I was not actually there, but thats how it looked to me . KeithMercer

11:15am Sun 8 Dec 13

HunsburyHornet4 says...

CheshamMike60 wrote:
I've just watched the highlights of the game. Great result, but did you notice TD's reaction after his second goal. I hope I'm wrong, but there seems to be a major problem there.
I was at the game, and when Troy scored his second goal, he spent more time in front of the Leeds crowd than with our lot. Couldn't understand it. Would have taken a draw before the game, so have to be happy with the result. A gutsy performance. COYH.
[quote][p][bold]CheshamMike60[/bold] wrote: I've just watched the highlights of the game. Great result, but did you notice TD's reaction after his second goal. I hope I'm wrong, but there seems to be a major problem there.[/p][/quote]I was at the game, and when Troy scored his second goal, he spent more time in front of the Leeds crowd than with our lot. Couldn't understand it. Would have taken a draw before the game, so have to be happy with the result. A gutsy performance. COYH. HunsburyHornet4

12:16pm Sun 8 Dec 13

dal8oy says...

It still looked like there's some discontent between deeney and the others. It did look as if he shrugged off whoever it was came to congratulate him. There really does seem to be a real problem in the dressing room that needs to be sorted. There are teams with a lot less talent than us doing better as they are a more cohesive unit which counts for more than mere talent. It needs sorting before we can move on up I reckon.
It still looked like there's some discontent between deeney and the others. It did look as if he shrugged off whoever it was came to congratulate him. There really does seem to be a real problem in the dressing room that needs to be sorted. There are teams with a lot less talent than us doing better as they are a more cohesive unit which counts for more than mere talent. It needs sorting before we can move on up I reckon. dal8oy

12:42pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Stoney77 says...

dal8oy wrote:
It still looked like there's some discontent between deeney and the others. It did look as if he shrugged off whoever it was came to congratulate him. There really does seem to be a real problem in the dressing room that needs to be sorted. There are teams with a lot less talent than us doing better as they are a more cohesive unit which counts for more than mere talent. It needs sorting before we can move on up I reckon.
Players shrug team-mates of all of the time when celebrating. The goalscorer wants to celebrate his goal his own way, and doesn't want teammates jumping in him to prevent him from doing this.
Not saying that there is definitely no problem in the dressing room, maybe there is? who knows?. Certainly none of us!
Personally we all know Troy is pretty full of himself, I think it's just him being arrogant. Great to see him back in the goals. Great finish for the first, great anticipation for the 2nd. Of course the cynics amongst us will point to the impending transfer window and cite that as the reason for his 'upturn in form'!!
[quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: It still looked like there's some discontent between deeney and the others. It did look as if he shrugged off whoever it was came to congratulate him. There really does seem to be a real problem in the dressing room that needs to be sorted. There are teams with a lot less talent than us doing better as they are a more cohesive unit which counts for more than mere talent. It needs sorting before we can move on up I reckon.[/p][/quote]Players shrug team-mates of all of the time when celebrating. The goalscorer wants to celebrate his goal his own way, and doesn't want teammates jumping in him to prevent him from doing this. Not saying that there is definitely no problem in the dressing room, maybe there is? who knows?. Certainly none of us! Personally we all know Troy is pretty full of himself, I think it's just him being arrogant. Great to see him back in the goals. Great finish for the first, great anticipation for the 2nd. Of course the cynics amongst us will point to the impending transfer window and cite that as the reason for his 'upturn in form'!! Stoney77

1:06pm Sun 8 Dec 13

buck-stops says...

Unbeaten in 5 away from home. Now for the home form. And if the supporters turn up, we might get 3 points...
Unbeaten in 5 away from home. Now for the home form. And if the supporters turn up, we might get 3 points... buck-stops

1:48pm Sun 8 Dec 13

anywayasiwasaying says...

dal8oy wrote:
It still looked like there's some discontent between deeney and the others. It did look as if he shrugged off whoever it was came to congratulate him. There really does seem to be a real problem in the dressing room that needs to be sorted. There are teams with a lot less talent than us doing better as they are a more cohesive unit which counts for more than mere talent. It needs sorting before we can move on up I reckon.
First things first well done to the team on a point away at Elland Road which has become something of a fortress of late for Leeds. Also well done to the fans who travelled and provided great vocal support.. Is their any factual evidence to support the statement of real problems in the dressing room or are you just repeating what you've heard, which if the latter, doesn't really provide any useful insight in to the matter...just interested.
[quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: It still looked like there's some discontent between deeney and the others. It did look as if he shrugged off whoever it was came to congratulate him. There really does seem to be a real problem in the dressing room that needs to be sorted. There are teams with a lot less talent than us doing better as they are a more cohesive unit which counts for more than mere talent. It needs sorting before we can move on up I reckon.[/p][/quote]First things first well done to the team on a point away at Elland Road which has become something of a fortress of late for Leeds. Also well done to the fans who travelled and provided great vocal support.. Is their any factual evidence to support the statement of real problems in the dressing room or are you just repeating what you've heard, which if the latter, doesn't really provide any useful insight in to the matter...just interested. anywayasiwasaying

2:01pm Sun 8 Dec 13

soulfulhornet says...

Sounded like an excellent football match. Played well on the break first half with Anya and McGugan causing problems. After half time it seemed we did not handle the pressure well and their influence faded. We did not crumble however.

First Leeds goal seemed a lucky break off the chest of our defender that broke to Pugh, who 9 times out of ten would not have finished from that angle. Jon Marks seemed to think there was a foul on Anya in the build up to the second, but BBC highlights didn't show this bit. Any insights from those present?

That Ross McCormack looks a good player and Nosworthy couldn;'t cope and Smith was too tall for him on the second. Agree Fitz Hall might have coped better but is he match fit especially against a physical side like Leeds?

Great if unexpected comeback that shows the lads do have the character to play in the Championship. Could have nicked it (undeservedly at the death?). That's two draws from difficult places to go.

Can't wait for Abdi to return, think that the formation 4-5-1 might just suit him as he has the combination of passing, dribbling skills plus vision as well as the ability to take the shot himself. With pacy options now on either side with Anya and Bellerin/ Faroini we should find opening teams up easier. and we seemed more of a threat. We will just need to ensure we get players in the box for the chances created.

Can't wait for the next match
Sounded like an excellent football match. Played well on the break first half with Anya and McGugan causing problems. After half time it seemed we did not handle the pressure well and their influence faded. We did not crumble however. First Leeds goal seemed a lucky break off the chest of our defender that broke to Pugh, who 9 times out of ten would not have finished from that angle. Jon Marks seemed to think there was a foul on Anya in the build up to the second, but BBC highlights didn't show this bit. Any insights from those present? That Ross McCormack looks a good player and Nosworthy couldn;'t cope and Smith was too tall for him on the second. Agree Fitz Hall might have coped better but is he match fit especially against a physical side like Leeds? Great if unexpected comeback that shows the lads do have the character to play in the Championship. Could have nicked it (undeservedly at the death?). That's two draws from difficult places to go. Can't wait for Abdi to return, think that the formation 4-5-1 might just suit him as he has the combination of passing, dribbling skills plus vision as well as the ability to take the shot himself. With pacy options now on either side with Anya and Bellerin/ Faroini we should find opening teams up easier. and we seemed more of a threat. We will just need to ensure we get players in the box for the chances created. Can't wait for the next match soulfulhornet

2:12pm Sun 8 Dec 13

mellow yellow says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
Sounded like an excellent football match. Played well on the break first half with Anya and McGugan causing problems. After half time it seemed we did not handle the pressure well and their influence faded. We did not crumble however.

First Leeds goal seemed a lucky break off the chest of our defender that broke to Pugh, who 9 times out of ten would not have finished from that angle. Jon Marks seemed to think there was a foul on Anya in the build up to the second, but BBC highlights didn't show this bit. Any insights from those present?

That Ross McCormack looks a good player and Nosworthy couldn;'t cope and Smith was too tall for him on the second. Agree Fitz Hall might have coped better but is he match fit especially against a physical side like Leeds?

Great if unexpected comeback that shows the lads do have the character to play in the Championship. Could have nicked it (undeservedly at the death?). That's two draws from difficult places to go.

Can't wait for Abdi to return, think that the formation 4-5-1 might just suit him as he has the combination of passing, dribbling skills plus vision as well as the ability to take the shot himself. With pacy options now on either side with Anya and Bellerin/ Faroini we should find opening teams up easier. and we seemed more of a threat. We will just need to ensure we get players in the box for the chances created.

Can't wait for the next match
Abdi should be made captain on his return. He speaks four languages and is at the heart of most things, being an immensely talented central midfielder.
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Sounded like an excellent football match. Played well on the break first half with Anya and McGugan causing problems. After half time it seemed we did not handle the pressure well and their influence faded. We did not crumble however. First Leeds goal seemed a lucky break off the chest of our defender that broke to Pugh, who 9 times out of ten would not have finished from that angle. Jon Marks seemed to think there was a foul on Anya in the build up to the second, but BBC highlights didn't show this bit. Any insights from those present? That Ross McCormack looks a good player and Nosworthy couldn;'t cope and Smith was too tall for him on the second. Agree Fitz Hall might have coped better but is he match fit especially against a physical side like Leeds? Great if unexpected comeback that shows the lads do have the character to play in the Championship. Could have nicked it (undeservedly at the death?). That's two draws from difficult places to go. Can't wait for Abdi to return, think that the formation 4-5-1 might just suit him as he has the combination of passing, dribbling skills plus vision as well as the ability to take the shot himself. With pacy options now on either side with Anya and Bellerin/ Faroini we should find opening teams up easier. and we seemed more of a threat. We will just need to ensure we get players in the box for the chances created. Can't wait for the next match[/p][/quote]Abdi should be made captain on his return. He speaks four languages and is at the heart of most things, being an immensely talented central midfielder. mellow yellow

2:56pm Sun 8 Dec 13

neil-bs says...

Two good points away from home and I hope this means they are now improving. However, over the last ten games we are the worst team in the division. This is relegation form.
Two good points away from home and I hope this means they are now improving. However, over the last ten games we are the worst team in the division. This is relegation form. neil-bs

3:13pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

mellow yellow wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote: Sounded like an excellent football match. Played well on the break first half with Anya and McGugan causing problems. After half time it seemed we did not handle the pressure well and their influence faded. We did not crumble however. First Leeds goal seemed a lucky break off the chest of our defender that broke to Pugh, who 9 times out of ten would not have finished from that angle. Jon Marks seemed to think there was a foul on Anya in the build up to the second, but BBC highlights didn't show this bit. Any insights from those present? That Ross McCormack looks a good player and Nosworthy couldn;'t cope and Smith was too tall for him on the second. Agree Fitz Hall might have coped better but is he match fit especially against a physical side like Leeds? Great if unexpected comeback that shows the lads do have the character to play in the Championship. Could have nicked it (undeservedly at the death?). That's two draws from difficult places to go. Can't wait for Abdi to return, think that the formation 4-5-1 might just suit him as he has the combination of passing, dribbling skills plus vision as well as the ability to take the shot himself. With pacy options now on either side with Anya and Bellerin/ Faroini we should find opening teams up easier. and we seemed more of a threat. We will just need to ensure we get players in the box for the chances created. Can't wait for the next match
Abdi should be made captain on his return. He speaks four languages and is at the heart of most things, being an immensely talented central midfielder.
As a club, we're missing leadership on the pitch. Eustace had it and, for me, Hogg could have been a captain had he still been with us. Abid is the one player that I thnk can fill this void. We need someone on the pitch that can organise and motivate this lot, and Abdi is, for me then man.

On a separate note, Chalobah frustrated me a bit last season but is evidently quality. .. I wonder if there's any way we can nick him off Forest?

HC
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Sounded like an excellent football match. Played well on the break first half with Anya and McGugan causing problems. After half time it seemed we did not handle the pressure well and their influence faded. We did not crumble however. First Leeds goal seemed a lucky break off the chest of our defender that broke to Pugh, who 9 times out of ten would not have finished from that angle. Jon Marks seemed to think there was a foul on Anya in the build up to the second, but BBC highlights didn't show this bit. Any insights from those present? That Ross McCormack looks a good player and Nosworthy couldn;'t cope and Smith was too tall for him on the second. Agree Fitz Hall might have coped better but is he match fit especially against a physical side like Leeds? Great if unexpected comeback that shows the lads do have the character to play in the Championship. Could have nicked it (undeservedly at the death?). That's two draws from difficult places to go. Can't wait for Abdi to return, think that the formation 4-5-1 might just suit him as he has the combination of passing, dribbling skills plus vision as well as the ability to take the shot himself. With pacy options now on either side with Anya and Bellerin/ Faroini we should find opening teams up easier. and we seemed more of a threat. We will just need to ensure we get players in the box for the chances created. Can't wait for the next match[/p][/quote]Abdi should be made captain on his return. He speaks four languages and is at the heart of most things, being an immensely talented central midfielder.[/p][/quote]As a club, we're missing leadership on the pitch. Eustace had it and, for me, Hogg could have been a captain had he still been with us. Abid is the one player that I thnk can fill this void. We need someone on the pitch that can organise and motivate this lot, and Abdi is, for me then man. On a separate note, Chalobah frustrated me a bit last season but is evidently quality. .. I wonder if there's any way we can nick him off Forest? HC Hornet Cornet

3:15pm Sun 8 Dec 13

soulfulhornet says...

Discontent between Deeney and the others - where's the evidence and sources. Deeney has denied it on his twitter feed, for what it's worth

Deeney is captain at present, so must overcame this if and it's a big if it exists. And if it does so what. Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham weren't the best of mates - couldn't stand each other allegedly, but didn't stop both of them being successfully with United.
Discontent between Deeney and the others - where's the evidence and sources. Deeney has denied it on his twitter feed, for what it's worth Deeney is captain at present, so must overcame this if and it's a big if it exists. And if it does so what. Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham weren't the best of mates - couldn't stand each other allegedly, but didn't stop both of them being successfully with United. soulfulhornet

5:41pm Sun 8 Dec 13

SAHornet says...

From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares?
From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares? SAHornet

6:06pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

SAHornet wrote:
From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares?
Yep I'd agree. There just doesn't seem to be any understanding within the defence. The fact we haven't had a stable back 4 hasn't helped, but it's clear that they're not communicating well enough.

HC
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares?[/p][/quote]Yep I'd agree. There just doesn't seem to be any understanding within the defence. The fact we haven't had a stable back 4 hasn't helped, but it's clear that they're not communicating well enough. HC Hornet Cornet

6:17pm Sun 8 Dec 13

HunsburyHornet4 says...

SAHornet wrote:
From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares?
Nos did not have one his best games, and lost possession a few times. For what it's worth, Deeney was indirectly at fault for their 3rd goal when he slipped over and lost possession. It led to the goal, although he redeemed himself with the equaliser. Bond played well and stopped the score from being a lot worse. Bellerin had a good game, he's got some class. I was at the game.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares?[/p][/quote]Nos did not have one his best games, and lost possession a few times. For what it's worth, Deeney was indirectly at fault for their 3rd goal when he slipped over and lost possession. It led to the goal, although he redeemed himself with the equaliser. Bond played well and stopped the score from being a lot worse. Bellerin had a good game, he's got some class. I was at the game. HunsburyHornet4

6:54pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Drewoneone says...

Stoney77 wrote:
Sounds like a fantastic game of football and that Leeds had the better chances so I'm pretty happy with the result. Disappointing to draw after having been 2-0 up but credit to Leeds for coming out strongly after half time and fantastic for us to battle back for a draw after going behind though, it's nice to be on the right end of a late goal! Reading the twitter feed is a total joke during games. I cannot believe how fickle some people are:
We go from being the greatest team in the world now back in form and are going to storm the league, to sacking Zola within 20 minutes!!
Anyway, Leeds are a decent side in great form, we're a decent side in poor form so you've got to be content with 3-3.... Need to take these improved performances back to The Vic and tighten up at the back.
Agree with Stoney77 about the Twitter feed. I don't normally read it on Hornet Player, and now I know why. Mostly drivel written by children.
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a fantastic game of football and that Leeds had the better chances so I'm pretty happy with the result. Disappointing to draw after having been 2-0 up but credit to Leeds for coming out strongly after half time and fantastic for us to battle back for a draw after going behind though, it's nice to be on the right end of a late goal! Reading the twitter feed is a total joke during games. I cannot believe how fickle some people are: We go from being the greatest team in the world now back in form and are going to storm the league, to sacking Zola within 20 minutes!! Anyway, Leeds are a decent side in great form, we're a decent side in poor form so you've got to be content with 3-3.... Need to take these improved performances back to The Vic and tighten up at the back.[/p][/quote]Agree with Stoney77 about the Twitter feed. I don't normally read it on Hornet Player, and now I know why. Mostly drivel written by children. Drewoneone

8:35pm Sun 8 Dec 13

lockerbiehornet says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do.

I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era.

There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go.

HC
Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans!
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do. I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era. There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go. HC[/p][/quote]Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans! lockerbiehornet

8:41pm Sun 8 Dec 13

No Wheels says...

Paulh1 wrote:
endean2 wrote:
Just back to the hotel after the gamt, great away support,very vocal and right to the end
want to know what sort of club Leeds are? For the minutes silence, they announced that Mandela and BRemener had anniversary dates for their deaths!!!!'!!!!!!! Pure class from a **** club.

The game? We have no idea whatsoever how to defend,at the start of the 2nh half we went to pieces,I have never seen a Watford team less effective
In the air. iT took Leeds a while to work out that all they need to do was lump
The ball into the area and GOAL. That simple!

It was a point gained not 3 lost as they battered us for the last 45mins
Some good performances but Deaney left to forage on his lonesome
And poor old Noss, we'll
I think Hall should have started as he is the only player we have who has
Aerial presence, great excitement but dire in defenses
We're from here.
Absolute rubbish criticism of Leeds United FC... All due respect for what Mandela has done for certain people but he's hasn't directly affected many people at today's game. Bremner is idolised by many at Elland road so he deserved his applause on the anniversary of his death. Did you expect us to leave it until next week to do it... Erm... Not a chance !
think this is my favourite picure of billy bremner.... http://i19.photobuck
et.com/albums/b160/n
orthender/billy16mx2
.jpg
[quote][p][bold]Paulh1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: Just back to the hotel after the gamt, great away support,very vocal and right to the end want to know what sort of club Leeds are? For the minutes silence, they announced that Mandela and BRemener had anniversary dates for their deaths!!!!'!!!!!!! Pure class from a **** club. The game? We have no idea whatsoever how to defend,at the start of the 2nh half we went to pieces,I have never seen a Watford team less effective In the air. iT took Leeds a while to work out that all they need to do was lump The ball into the area and GOAL. That simple! It was a point gained not 3 lost as they battered us for the last 45mins Some good performances but Deaney left to forage on his lonesome And poor old Noss, we'll I think Hall should have started as he is the only player we have who has Aerial presence, great excitement but dire in defenses We're from here.[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish criticism of Leeds United FC... All due respect for what Mandela has done for certain people but he's hasn't directly affected many people at today's game. Bremner is idolised by many at Elland road so he deserved his applause on the anniversary of his death. Did you expect us to leave it until next week to do it... Erm... Not a chance ![/p][/quote]think this is my favourite picure of billy bremner.... http://i19.photobuck et.com/albums/b160/n orthender/billy16mx2 .jpg No Wheels

8:53pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do.

I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era.

There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go.

HC
Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans!
Thank you Lockerbie. As I've said beforehand, I won't resort to name-calling. I merely state my views, sometimes say a few things that gets a bit of debate going, and try and keep a light-hearted take on things.

My views are that Zola is struggling and I don't think he will succeed UNLESS he gets the right number 2 in. If he doesn't think he needs one (e.g. Boothroyd) then he deserves to get the sack. How can anyone argue otherwise.

Right, now we've got that out of the way, what's your prediction for the Sheff Weds game? I obviously want us to win but I reckon it might be another draw.

HC
[quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do. I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era. There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go. HC[/p][/quote]Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans![/p][/quote]Thank you Lockerbie. As I've said beforehand, I won't resort to name-calling. I merely state my views, sometimes say a few things that gets a bit of debate going, and try and keep a light-hearted take on things. My views are that Zola is struggling and I don't think he will succeed UNLESS he gets the right number 2 in. If he doesn't think he needs one (e.g. Boothroyd) then he deserves to get the sack. How can anyone argue otherwise. Right, now we've got that out of the way, what's your prediction for the Sheff Weds game? I obviously want us to win but I reckon it might be another draw. HC Hornet Cornet

9:04pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

sorry the e.g. Boothroyd is that Boofers thought he didn't need a number 2, not that we should get him back at the club
sorry the e.g. Boothroyd is that Boofers thought he didn't need a number 2, not that we should get him back at the club Hornet Cornet

9:46pm Sun 8 Dec 13

There was only one Scully says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares?
Yep I'd agree. There just doesn't seem to be any understanding within the defence. The fact we haven't had a stable back 4 hasn't helped, but it's clear that they're not communicating well enough.

HC
Early doors for these players who have just got back into the side from injury etc. Give them time.
To many quick to judge who have no perception. It takes time to get back to match fitness.
In GFZ, I trust.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares?[/p][/quote]Yep I'd agree. There just doesn't seem to be any understanding within the defence. The fact we haven't had a stable back 4 hasn't helped, but it's clear that they're not communicating well enough. HC[/p][/quote]Early doors for these players who have just got back into the side from injury etc. Give them time. To many quick to judge who have no perception. It takes time to get back to match fitness. In GFZ, I trust. There was only one Scully

9:45am Mon 9 Dec 13

Harry's Bar says...

SAHornet wrote:
From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares?
For Leeds 1st goal Nosworthy should have done better and Bond's positioning is all wrong, he seems to be covering the side netting.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: From the highlights, am I correct in thinking that Nos & to some extent Bond ad 'mares?[/p][/quote]For Leeds 1st goal Nosworthy should have done better and Bond's positioning is all wrong, he seems to be covering the side netting. Harry's Bar

10:38am Mon 9 Dec 13

JohnnyHornet says...

KeithMercer wrote:
CheshamMike60 wrote:
I've just watched the highlights of the game. Great result, but did you notice TD's reaction after his second goal. I hope I'm wrong, but there seems to be a major problem there.
I think you have that wrong Mike , Troy was getting dogs abuse from the Leeds fans behind the goal, so he gave them the finger to mouth (shut up) and generally done his best to wind them up!. I may have it wrong as I was not actually there, but thats how it looked to me .
The best way to shut an opposing crowd up is to stick a few in the net, well done Troy for reminding them abuse doesn't generally work.
[quote][p][bold]KeithMercer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CheshamMike60[/bold] wrote: I've just watched the highlights of the game. Great result, but did you notice TD's reaction after his second goal. I hope I'm wrong, but there seems to be a major problem there.[/p][/quote]I think you have that wrong Mike , Troy was getting dogs abuse from the Leeds fans behind the goal, so he gave them the finger to mouth (shut up) and generally done his best to wind them up!. I may have it wrong as I was not actually there, but thats how it looked to me .[/p][/quote]The best way to shut an opposing crowd up is to stick a few in the net, well done Troy for reminding them abuse doesn't generally work. JohnnyHornet

2:36pm Mon 9 Dec 13

abbotshornet says...

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny wrote:
What's with all the thumbs down??? Does everyone want Zola out or something?
All the anti Zola thumbs down is obviouly not Watford supporters, I think there must be a group of L*t*n fans trying to wind us up!
COYGB's
[quote][p][bold]Ronny oh Ronny Ronny[/bold] wrote: What's with all the thumbs down??? Does everyone want Zola out or something?[/p][/quote]All the anti Zola thumbs down is obviouly not Watford supporters, I think there must be a group of L*t*n fans trying to wind us up! COYGB's abbotshornet

5:33pm Mon 9 Dec 13

demerit says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do.

I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era.

There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go.

HC
Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans!
Thank you Lockerbie. As I've said beforehand, I won't resort to name-calling. I merely state my views, sometimes say a few things that gets a bit of debate going, and try and keep a light-hearted take on things.

My views are that Zola is struggling and I don't think he will succeed UNLESS he gets the right number 2 in. If he doesn't think he needs one (e.g. Boothroyd) then he deserves to get the sack. How can anyone argue otherwise.

Right, now we've got that out of the way, what's your prediction for the Sheff Weds game? I obviously want us to win but I reckon it might be another draw.

HC
Yes, I think Lockerbie's got something nasty stuck in his sporran today. I reckon 3-1 to us with them scoring first...I'll enjoy the week now, thinking about that (not the sporran, the score).
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do. I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era. There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go. HC[/p][/quote]Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans![/p][/quote]Thank you Lockerbie. As I've said beforehand, I won't resort to name-calling. I merely state my views, sometimes say a few things that gets a bit of debate going, and try and keep a light-hearted take on things. My views are that Zola is struggling and I don't think he will succeed UNLESS he gets the right number 2 in. If he doesn't think he needs one (e.g. Boothroyd) then he deserves to get the sack. How can anyone argue otherwise. Right, now we've got that out of the way, what's your prediction for the Sheff Weds game? I obviously want us to win but I reckon it might be another draw. HC[/p][/quote]Yes, I think Lockerbie's got something nasty stuck in his sporran today. I reckon 3-1 to us with them scoring first...I'll enjoy the week now, thinking about that (not the sporran, the score). demerit

11:43pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

demerit wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do.

I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era.

There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go.

HC
Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans!
Thank you Lockerbie. As I've said beforehand, I won't resort to name-calling. I merely state my views, sometimes say a few things that gets a bit of debate going, and try and keep a light-hearted take on things.

My views are that Zola is struggling and I don't think he will succeed UNLESS he gets the right number 2 in. If he doesn't think he needs one (e.g. Boothroyd) then he deserves to get the sack. How can anyone argue otherwise.

Right, now we've got that out of the way, what's your prediction for the Sheff Weds game? I obviously want us to win but I reckon it might be another draw.

HC
Yes, I think Lockerbie's got something nasty stuck in his sporran today. I reckon 3-1 to us with them scoring first...I'll enjoy the week now, thinking about that (not the sporran, the score).
I will happily take your prediction dude. Whats a sporran made from anyway?
[quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do. I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era. There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go. HC[/p][/quote]Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans![/p][/quote]Thank you Lockerbie. As I've said beforehand, I won't resort to name-calling. I merely state my views, sometimes say a few things that gets a bit of debate going, and try and keep a light-hearted take on things. My views are that Zola is struggling and I don't think he will succeed UNLESS he gets the right number 2 in. If he doesn't think he needs one (e.g. Boothroyd) then he deserves to get the sack. How can anyone argue otherwise. Right, now we've got that out of the way, what's your prediction for the Sheff Weds game? I obviously want us to win but I reckon it might be another draw. HC[/p][/quote]Yes, I think Lockerbie's got something nasty stuck in his sporran today. I reckon 3-1 to us with them scoring first...I'll enjoy the week now, thinking about that (not the sporran, the score).[/p][/quote]I will happily take your prediction dude. Whats a sporran made from anyway? Hornet Cornet

7:26am Tue 10 Dec 13

demerit says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
demerit wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do.

I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era.

There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go.

HC
Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans!
Thank you Lockerbie. As I've said beforehand, I won't resort to name-calling. I merely state my views, sometimes say a few things that gets a bit of debate going, and try and keep a light-hearted take on things.

My views are that Zola is struggling and I don't think he will succeed UNLESS he gets the right number 2 in. If he doesn't think he needs one (e.g. Boothroyd) then he deserves to get the sack. How can anyone argue otherwise.

Right, now we've got that out of the way, what's your prediction for the Sheff Weds game? I obviously want us to win but I reckon it might be another draw.

HC
Yes, I think Lockerbie's got something nasty stuck in his sporran today. I reckon 3-1 to us with them scoring first...I'll enjoy the week now, thinking about that (not the sporran, the score).
I will happily take your prediction dude. Whats a sporran made from anyway?
Not sure. I don't think it's a living organism though although it does move sometimes...
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]demerit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I'm loving all these negative scores. Someone out there obviously has nothing better to do. I'm glad we got the draw in the end, but still think that something fundamental needs to change for us to start playing well (and consistently so). Many people have said get a decent number 2, and there's a lot of mileage in that as we found out in the Boothroyd era. There, I've said something true and not negative. Let's see how negative my score can go. HC[/p][/quote]Your a bit of pratt aren't you Cornet? 7 days ago you were one of the strapons calling for Zolas head, now it's just a case of a decent number 2... Dinlow!! As for the negative scores I suspect the pikeys down the road have infiltrated our website and given them as they have nothing to do once the horses have been shod and gas canisters changed on their caravans![/p][/quote]Thank you Lockerbie. As I've said beforehand, I won't resort to name-calling. I merely state my views, sometimes say a few things that gets a bit of debate going, and try and keep a light-hearted take on things. My views are that Zola is struggling and I don't think he will succeed UNLESS he gets the right number 2 in. If he doesn't think he needs one (e.g. Boothroyd) then he deserves to get the sack. How can anyone argue otherwise. Right, now we've got that out of the way, what's your prediction for the Sheff Weds game? I obviously want us to win but I reckon it might be another draw. HC[/p][/quote]Yes, I think Lockerbie's got something nasty stuck in his sporran today. I reckon 3-1 to us with them scoring first...I'll enjoy the week now, thinking about that (not the sporran, the score).[/p][/quote]I will happily take your prediction dude. Whats a sporran made from anyway?[/p][/quote]Not sure. I don't think it's a living organism though although it does move sometimes... demerit

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