Secrecy and deception: An extensive breakdown into Watford and Laurence Bassini's misconduct charge

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Secrecy and deception. False and misleading. A reckless disregard of the regulations. And inexcusable. These are just some of the terms used in the Football Disciplinary Commission’s findings into the misconduct charges against Watford and their former owner Laurence Bassini.

An extensive report from deputy group sports editor Frank Smith based on the documents released by the Football League this morning.

Watford and Mr Bassini were charged with misconduct by the Football League last summer due to breaches of the governing body’s regulations regarding two separate transactions that took place in 2011 between the Hornets and a finance company called LNOC Limited.

The Football Disciplinary Commission (FDC) today released its findings into the Football League versus Watford and Mr Bassini case.

Mr Bassini has been banned from owning or holding any position of authority in a Football League club for a period of three years.

Watford did not receive a points deduction or fine but have been placed under a transfer embargo until the end of the summer transfer window, which should be on August 31.

However, the Hornets released a statement this morning which explained that whilst a transfer embargo is in place, the club could still sign players as long as they have the written consent of the football authorities.

The club statement read: “This is not an absolute bar on transfers, but rather a mechanism by which transfer business can be conducted by the club provided that the prior authorization of the relevant football authorities has been obtained.”

The Football League regulations go into very little detail, simply stating clubs “shall not be permitted to register any player with that club without the prior written consent of the executive”.

A Football League spokesman has been unavailable to comment today.

The FDC released two documents this morning relating to the misconduct charge. It confirmed that Watford should have been under a transfer embargo for 11 months, starting from September 26 2011, due one of the loan agreements.

However, Watford continued to sign and register players during that time and retained the services of eight new players, according to one of the reports.

The FDC said: “It is not possible to say to what extent, if at all, the club derived sporting advantage from those transactions, but it is appropriate to assume that it probably did to some degree, because the purpose of the transactions was, self-evidently, to maximise the club’s sporting performance. It is noted that the club finished the season in a mid-table position.”

“The FDC concludes that, even if unwittingly, the club had an advantage over its fellow competitors in the Championship, which it would not otherwise have had,” the FDC added.

“We take the view that the registration embargo referred to above is a sufficiently serious sanction to mark all the club’s breaches of the regulations, in particular having regard to the club’s current position in the Championship and the prospects of its promotion to the Premier League next season.”

The FDC confirmed our reports in the summer that Watford had indeed been under a transfer embargo between June 12 and July 31 this year due to previous to the matter.

Watford and Mr Bassini were charged by the Football League in August and the Football Disciplinary Commission was set up in October, but the story didn’t break until we reported on the situation in November.

The hearing began on January 28 and both sides finished given evidence to the panel three days later.

The Football League has this morning released two documents from the FDC titled ‘Determination Following Substantive Hearing’, which was issued on February 11, and ‘Determination Of Sanctions’ Watford were accused of breaching regulations 44.2, 48.1 and 19. Mr Bassini was accused of misconduct based upon his activities in relation to those alleged breaches.

Regulation 44.2.2 states the Football League secretary should be notified if there is “any contract a club proposes to enter into (save for a representation contract with an agent) which gives the club or any other party to the proposed contract the right to receive payments in respect of a player.”

The Football League brought the misconduct charge because it entered into a contract with LNOC without providing the governing body with a copy of the contract and without seeking the League’s approval.

Watford breached regulation 48.1 because LNOC was not a financial institution and no approval had been obtained, which could have made the club exempt from the provisions.

Regulation 19 states that entering into loan agreements for payments from the League’s Pool Account should result in a transfer embargo until the money is repaid.

Watford should have notified the League within 24 hours of the forward funding arrangement and failure to do so meant they were able to sign players when they should have been under an embargo.

The League decided to bring a case against Mr Bassini as he was the owner and director and was deemed to be directly involved and responsible for the club.

Mr Bassini has subsequently left Watford but the League brought charges under regulations 76.1.3 and 80.2.

The FDC said: “His activities in each case caused or facilitated the breaches, and each case this is alleged to amount to “misconduct” on his part.”

In the first document, it starts by confirming Mr Bassini was a director at Watford and that “at all relevant times represented himself to the League and to the club as the beneficial owner of the shares in the club.

However, it adds that in his second witness statement, he claimed he subsequently held 50 per cent of the shares on behalf of Valley Grown Salads Unlimited, which is currently being disputed by its owners the Russo brothers, who are former directors of the club. For more information, see here.

Mr Bassini claimed he had arranged for due diligence to be completed before he purchased Watford in 2011 but accepted that he had not used accountants to perform any checks upon the club’s finances and confirmed he was not an accountant himself.

The League highlighted that a meeting between Mr Bassini, his advisor Angelo Barrea, and the League’s director of legal affairs, chief operating officer and finance director took place on March 28 2011, where the League regulations and scrutiny of finances were explained.

Mr Bassini claims the club’s financial status and cash-flow situation was worse than expected when he took over the club so, alongside Mr Barrea, started to look into means of increasing the club’s cash-flow.

It was then that they contacted a company trading as “Good For Sport”, whose directors were Nigel Weiss and Mark Wollner.

Mr Weiss and Mr Wollner suggested the club consider ‘forward funding’, which effectively means loans secured against money being loaned or sourced from elsewhere in the future, such as anticipated part-payment from player sales or distribution of money due from the League’s Pool Account.

Such agreements are not prohibited by football’s governing bodies but they do come under the Football League’s remit and would need ratifying. Watford had used such agreements in the past and so had long-serving directors and members of staff at the club.

At the beginning of the 2011/12 season, the League introduced a regulation which meant that clubs would be placed under a transfer embargo if they agreed loans against money they were due to receive from the League Pool Account. Emails showed Mr Craig and Mr Weiss were aware of this change.

In the summer of 2010, the League also created rules, under Regulations 44 and 48, which stated forward funding must be preceded by approval from the League.

Mr Weiss met with Mr Barrea to discuss funding options on July 8 2011 and Mr Wollner wrote to Mr Barrea on August 11 with proposals. Mr Wollner then met Mr Bassini six days later and it was confirmed via email later in the day that the Hornets owner would be using their company. The issue of League regulations was not addressed at this time.

Good For Sport proposed the use of LNOC Ltd, which is wholly owned by Nicholas Francis and Lesley Francis. LNOC was incorporated in September 2010, operated out of a business centre in Egham and had not returned any accounts to Companies House at the time a search was carried out. No other significant details about LNOC was provided to the FDC and neither of the company’s owners was a witness before the panel as part of the misconduct hearings.

And importantly, the company is not a “financial institution” as defined by the Football League’s regulations, and it didn’t claim to be, so forward funding with LNOC would not have been allowed by the League.

Danny Graham and John Eustace were praised by Malky Mackay after 3-2 win at Norwich City. Picture: Action Images

Danny Graham was sold to Swansea City on July 1 2011 and £2.5m of the £3.5m transfer fee was paid by September 1 2011.

The remaining £1m was due in two instalments of £500,000 on January 1 2012 and March 1 2012.

Mr Weiss, Mr Wollner, Mr Bassini and Mr Barrea met on September 5 2011 and a draft letter was provided to the club representatives for them to complete and return. It was designed to accompany two promissory notes, and to be addressed to LNOC.

It also referred to a letter from the Hornets to the League which was to be held “in escrow” by Mr Weiss and would only be sent to the League in the event of default in payment by Swansea. It was dated September 13 2011.

The draft letter envisaged payments direct to LNOC, and not via the League Transfer Accounts, and the letters were both ‘executed’ by Mr Barrea on behalf of the club.

The League argued that the club must have realised it was deliberately flouting regulations by entering into this transaction due to the letter and promissory notes being held in escrow, as the governing body would have only been made aware of the agreement if there was a failure to pay – with the letter used as a threat of disciplinary consequences.

Mr Weiss apparently went to Swansea in person to collect and return the signed promissory notes, which were dated September 13 2011. At no point during this process did Watford inform the League of the arrangement and no other person within the club were asked to play a role in the events.

The documentation sent to LNOC required the signature of company secretary Peter Wastall. The FDC document explains: “Mr Wastall gave evidence and stated that he recalled having attended the club on a couple of days in mid-September 2011, specifically the 16th and the 19th.

“He had some recollection of being asked by Mr Bassini to sign documents, but stated that he did not read them and took them on trust.

“He had some recollection of signing documents for earlier player transfer funding deals and thought nothing of this. These documents were handed straight back to Mr Bassini who retained them, and Mr Wastall was not given copies.

“No evidence has been shown to us to suggest that any written record of the arrangement was placed on the files of the club.

“Apart from Mr Wastall’s limited role just mentioned, the only persons from within the club structure to play any part in the arrangement or correspondence were Mr Bassini and his representative, Mr Barrea.”

Mr Barrea is a solicitor who is a sole practitioner and had worked with Mr Bassini for ten years. He was described by Mr Bassini as a consultant and was made a signatory to the club’s bank account and on his own admission, had effectively become chief executive, although he was never an employee of the club.

Mr Bassini claimed he told the other directors about the forward funding for the Danny Graham transfer but directors Stuart Timperley, David Fransen and Andrew Wilson gave evidence stating the former owner did not discuss the arrangements with them.

LNOC paid Watford £951,041 on September 21 2011, with the company set to receive £1m. The money was not paid into the club account but that of Mr Bassini’s holding company Watford FC Limited.

The FDC said: “Whatever the reason for using that account to receive the funds, one effect of this arrangement is that no funds arrived in the club account which might have alerted the finance staff or other directors to the LNOC agreement.”

The documents do not go into detail but Mr Bassini regularly transferred money from his Watford FC Limited account intothe Hornets’ club account.

Mr Bassini and Mr Barrea gave evidence claiming they believed Mr Weiss had made all the necessary arrangements with the League, highlighting the fact Mr Weiss was a solicitor. But it is claimed Mr Weiss did not suggest he was acting as solicitor on behalf of the club.

It is claimed other members of staff at Watford first became aware of the name LNOC in December 2011 when Swansea were asked by Mr Weiss to contact the Premier League or Football League to request that the £500,000 due to Watford on January 1 2012 was paid directly to LNOC.

Swansea contacted the Premier League who subsequently spoke to the Football League, where staff were unaware of LNOC as no prior information had been provided.

The Football League passed the message on to Watford’s club secretary Michelle Ives and then head of finance Katie Wareham. The pair said they were unaware of LNOC so there was no reason why the funds should be paid to the finance company.

Swansea subsequently put the money in the Premier League Transfer Account and LNOC’s first payment was made on January 19 2012 from Watford FC Limited. The club’s board were not notified and neither were the members of staff it is claimed.

The final £500,000 was again paid to the League account by Swansea and then given to the club directly instead of LNOC, who are still waiting for the payment.

Marvin Sordell celebrates after first England Under-21 goal. Picture: Action Images

Watford wanted additional future funding following Marvin Sordell’s sale to Bolton Wanderers in January 2012 and Mr Bassini and Mr Barrea asked Mr Weiss to contact the League.

The League rejected requests for agreements with JG Funding Ltd and then Jordan International Bank as it was unclear whether the companies were the ultimate beneficiaries as per the governing body’s regulations.

The funding therefore didn’t proceed but the League were not notified of the previous arrangements with LNOC, as they would have expected.

Whilst the Swansea forward funding was being agreed, further documentation was drawn up for £1.8m of money the club were due to receive from the League’s Pool Account.

Mr Weiss and Mr Bassini both had dialogue with the League in September 2011 where it was made clear that entering into such an agreement would results in a transfer embargo.

In a conversation with the League, Mr Bassini said he would not enter into the agreement if it would result in an embargo but four days after the phone call, he entered into a forward funding arrangement with LNOC for the Pool Account money and the League were not informed.

Both Mr Bassini and Mr Wastall signed two promissory notes and other documentation on club-headed paper for LNOC, with the company secretary again signing “without reading or querying them”.

In a letter to LNOC, it was suggested once more that documentation for the Football League be held in escrow.

FDC said: “The League advances the argument that this arrangement was in the nature of a threat to Mr Bassini and the club, which would only have been effective if Mr Bassini were aware that League Regulation 19 was being broken by the nonnotification to it of the Pooling Account forward funding agreement with LNOC.”

LNOC subsequently paid Mr Bassini’s company Watford FC Limited £1.660,595 on September 26 2011. It is claimed the former owner and Mr Barrea were the only individuals from the club involved in negotiations, apart from Mr Wastall’s signatures on the documentation.

The £1.8m owed to LNOC was to be paid in two instalments, the first of which was due in February 2012.

Mr Barrea made a request to Ms Wareham for a cheque of £900,000 payable to LNOC for “SW corner works” and “stadium redevelopment”. He later added “so far as I am aware it’s a payment on account for the stand inc VAT”.

Ms Wareham raised the issue with Mr Bassini as the club account could not afford to cover the cheque and the Stanmore businessman said the funds would be transferred to cover the sum.

Mr Bassini told the FDC that when the £1.66m was loaned, it was originally for stadium redevelopment work but that existing debt and cash-flow requirements had absorbed the money by February 2012.

Mr Barrea claims to have consulted with the accountants and they said to include the payment under that heading for accounting purposes as it could be sorted out before the end of the accounting year.

Mr Bassini claimed to have told other directors about the forward funding but at the February 25 board meeting, there was no indication in the meeting’s minutes that he reminded them of the LNOC payment or used the opportunity to link the payment and the agreement.

The directors recall asking for additional information about the “development” payment, which was promised by Mr Bassini.

The former owner didn’t attend the March 14 board meeting but Mr Barrea did and because he knew of the LNOC agreement, the FDC claimed “he chose to keep that information to himself”.

The FDC added: “No evidence has been produced that suggests that the board of the club was at any time provided with the information requested of Mr Bassini and Mr Barrea – at any rate prior to the League investigations.”

Swansea paid the final Danny Graham instalment but it is claimed no arrangements were made to repay LNOC the second sum they were due. In May 2012, LNOC wrote to Swansea requesting the money and so did Mr Weiss on June 6.

Swansea then forwarded documentation to the Football League and that was the first time the governing body had seen the letter from Watford dated September 13 2011.

The League’s director of legal affairs, Mr Craig, looked into the matter and his evidence suggested the governing body had not been notified of the agreement, so he asked for a transfer embargo and a suspension of further Pool Account payments to the club.

The FDC said it relied upon and accepted most, if not all, of the evidence provided by the witnesses acting on behalf of Watford.

Picture: Pippa Douglas

The Hornets’ defence started with the claim that “Mr Bassini acted without board knowledge or consent in much of what he did, and that the club was and is not bound by his actions because he was not acting in the best interests of the club in committing it to the transactions in question.”

The Hornets also argued that “LNOC was not acting in good faith in entering into both sets of forward funding transactions with the club, because it had knowledge through Mr Weiss acting as its agent that Mr Bassini was obviously acting to the detriment of the club he claimed to represent and that he could not and would not have obtained the consent of the board of directors to those transactions. “ Watford argued the transactions were void, the actions of Mr Bassini were not those of the club and therefore could not be placed in breach of the regulations.

However, the League responded with: “Whilst it did not dispute that Mr Bassini may have misled, or at least bypassed other directors, he remained the undisputed owner of the club and was at all material times a director with authority to enter into transactions of the type in question. It would follow that he was entitled to bind the club.

“The transactions he entered into on behalf of the club were not of their nature unlawful or for an improper purpose. They did however involve regulatory consequences for the club in terms of an embargo and disciplinary measures. Whilst Mr Weiss may well have known - as the League conceded - that the transactions as undertaken would place the club in breach of the regulations, that was a position which was open to the club. Moreover, Mr Weiss was not an adviser to the club, which had its own legal advisers.”

The FDC added: “This was not a situation in which it was suggested that Mr Bassini was personally enriching himself at the expense of the club. The entry into the arrangements was not plainly contrary to the best interests of the club, just because there may be some element of regulatory disadvantage to the club. The motive behind the transactions was to benefit the club by providing necessary cash-flow to fund its various activities.”

Mr Bassini’s defence was that he “did not know or understand the full detail of the League Regulations”.

The former owner also stressed he had “relied” upon Mr Weiss as his adviser and that he was entitled to do so considering Mr Weiss’ description of himself.

The FDC acknowledged Mr Bassini’s evidence was “at odds” with the Hornets as he claimed to have informed the other directors of his actions and that Mr Weiss should have notified the League. He denied receiving an email from Mr Weiss on September 20 2011 which would have “placed him on notice” about the problems with the regulations.

The documentation released today explained: “The League’s response to this defence was twofold - that knowledge of the regulations on the part of an owner and director of a league club is to be presumed, and in any event that there was ample evidence that Mr Bassini did in fact know that his actions were placing the club in breach, and that his behaviour was sufficient to demonstrate actual knowledge on his part.

“The responsibility which comes with that could not be avoided by seeking to blame a third party, particularly when that third party obviously acted for another. Mr Weiss was not the agent of Mr Bassini or any company controlled by Mr Bassini, but for LNOC, and at no time offered to or purported to advise Mr Bassini as his solicitor.”

The League “conceded” that the FDC could not find Mr Bassini guilty of misconduct if the club were not punished as well because “if there were no breaches by the club, there could be no misconduct by Mr Bassini”.

Watford had argued the transactions showed Mr Bassini was acting for his own benefit but that was rejected by the FDC.

The commission accepted the state of Watford’s finances were worse than he initially expected and that the club may have been in jeopardy had the cash-flow not improved.

The FDC added: “We were somewhat surprised at the wholly inadequate nature of the “due diligence” performed prior to his purchase, but that was a commercial decision which was his to take.

“Our conclusion is that Mr Bassini believed that he was acting, in entering into the forward funding transactions on behalf of the club, in the club’s best interests.”

Further down in the document, it adds: “If Mr Bassini is deemed to have failed in his fiduciary duties to the club, then the club would be entitled to take action against him. That is not what this FDC has to decide upon and we make no finding in that regard. It does however mean that recourse against Mr Bassini is available to the club if it views his actions as having failed it.”

A large part of Mr Bassini’s defence relates to him being new to football and that he had no knowledge of the regulation’s ‘intricacies’. However, the FDC highlight the previous meeting with several League officials and stated copies of the regulations would have been available to him and the club.

The FDC highlighted the “reservoir of skill and experience among several long-standing directors and staff members” at Watford who could have provided advice and guidance.

Mr Bassini claimed there was “resentment and obstruction from that quarter” but the commission stressed that if it was the case, then he should have sought independent advice.

It is claimed the Stanmore businessman’s only due diligence when he bought Watford was his use of solicitors Howard Kennedy and the club also had access to the firm SA Law, so the FDC described his failure to seek independent legal advice regarding the regulations as “inexcusable”.

On Mr Barrea, it said he “had no football experience, denied he was acting as a lawyer, and does not seem to have provided any clearly identifiable expertise”.

The FDC claim “neither Mr Bassini or Mr Barrea told the truth” regarding seeing an email from Mr Weiss in September 2011, which highlighted the potential arguments the owner should raise with the League over the agreements.

On the claims of notifying the other Watford directors, the FDC findings stated: “We find as a fact that Mr Bassini did not, as he claimed, inform his fellow directors of the arranged forward funding from LNOC. We found the evidence of Mr Fransen, Professor Timperley and Mr Wilson to be cogent and persuasive on this point.

“There has been no evidence placed before us as to why the three men should conspire to lie about this topic, whereas Mr Bassini has an obvious reason for claiming that he had told them. In addition, we would have expected any information of the type which Mr Bassini says he passed to them to be followed up by some written correspondence and to be recorded in the board minutes, but it was not.”

It continued: “If that were not sufficient, our view is reinforced by Mr Bassini’s assertion in evidence that he had informed Mr Fransen about the forward funding by telephone at Mr Fransen’s home in Switzerland.

“Mr Barrea, who had apparently not been present when that evidence emerged, was to say on the second day of our hearing that he had been present when Mr Fransen was told at a football match “around a table”. This contradiction, asserted with certainty, left us with the very clear impression that Mr Barrea was prepared to say whatever he thought would assist Mr Bassini, without concern for the truth.”

The fact Mr Wastall signed the documents did not amount to disclosure to the board in the commission’s view. It said Mr Wastall signed documents without reading them “simply trusting to the integrity of Mr Bassini”.

The FDC said Mr Wastall did not read most or any of the documents he was asked to sign and suggested this indicates “a failure to grasp the role and obligations of a company secretary”.

Mr Wastall highlighted the fact he was “an occasional visitor” to the club who worked around 40 to 50 hours per month. He said he wouldn’t necessarily know if a document had already been submitted to the board for approval.

The FDC had strong words for Mr Bassini and Mr Barrea when it made its judgement.

It described the information provided in the February 2012 board meeting as “false and misleading” – adding the commission believed the pair intended for it to be so.

It followed that up by saying the claims that the £900,000 LNOC payment was being used for stadium redevelopments, when it was used for cash-flow, was “a smoke-screen to hide the earlier transaction from the board”.

It added: “The secrecy and deception practised by Mr Bassini and Mr Barrea are not, of course “misconduct” per se, even if they constitute disreputable behaviour. They are pointers, however, to the state of mind of Mr Bassini, and factors which we must weigh in the balance when considering the explanations given for his behaviour. They are in our view clear indicators that he knew that his actions placed the club in breach of the regulations, and that he chose to hide this from his staff and fellow directors.”

The FDC stated it was satisfied that misconduct could be demonstrated because at the very least Mr Bassini showed a “reckless disregard of the regulations” relating to the two transactions and believed he took “positive steps” to keep the regulation breaches hidden from the League and his colleagues.

The commission added: “We are satisfied that Mr Barrea knowingly and actively assisted him in this, although Mr Barrea is not subject to any “misconduct” charge, precisely because his position at the club was not regularised.”

The League withheld £1.2m of the transfer money Watford were due following the sale of Adrian Mariappa due to the ongoing situation with LNOC.

The Premier League were reimbursed the £606,302 it paid Swansea City so the club could discharge its liability to LNOC.

The other £593,698 was retained to offset potential liability to LNOC but it was gradually released back to the Hornets as it withheld a further £900,000.

Watford have an ongoing issue with LNOC and the League have withheld £900,000 in payments and says it is “considering whether to intervene in the current litigation between the two parties”.

Both Watford and Bassini have to pay their own legal costs and the League’s costs were split, with Bassini being ordered to pay 75 per cent and Watford 25 per cent.

Comments(75)

hornet88 says...
1:14am Tue 19 Mar 13

That's too much info for me to digest right now. But fair play for writing probably the longest report on watford f.c. ever!

Traceyhornet says...
6:14am Tue 19 Mar 13

Staggering!!! Wonder where we'd be if the Pozzos' hadn't come along?

Play-Off Pete says...
6:33am Tue 19 Mar 13

There's still more to come out, especially the part VGS played in supporting Bassini taking the club over:
"... he claimed he subsequently held 50 per cent of the shares on behalf of Valley Grown Salads Unlimited".

andyhooked says...
8:07am Tue 19 Mar 13

Lots more murky stuff to come out including WFC's actions against LNOC and whether the FL will intervene and then the actions being taken by the Russos and how this may kick back against WFC. Staggered by the revelations that we had a company secretary that did not read documentation before signing. I wonder what sort of retainer he was was on and what he actually did to justify his existance at the club. I join in congratulating Frank Smith in presenting the findings in the documentation. When all is over and dusted it could form the basis of a fascinating documentary about how a football club can be driven to the brink.

Chris the Vic says...
8:58am Tue 19 Mar 13

A great article by Frank and congratulations to the FDC.

We now have evidence indicating that LB and the lovely Angelo had a tendency towards cowboy behaviour.

However, LB was selected by most of the board and Lord A as suitable buyers of the club after the tidal wave of problems generated under Homer's reign.

Did it not seem to the then owners very odd that their was no due diligence, and did this not start alarm bells ringing with GT and his board who remained under LB.

Whilst I suspect the board and Ms Wareham were told little I wonder why given all the signs that must have been there to see not worry them sufficiently for them to report matters to the authorities.

Then there were the club auditors what were they doing and did they again not seek satisfactory answers. Bear in mind they are expected to carry our their duties with a questioning and cynical mind.

These revelations beggar belief, thank heavens for the Pozzos.

Supporter in Spain says...
9:00am Tue 19 Mar 13

To me the most interesting comment is that if they didn't find the club guilty Bassini couldn't be found guilty either. In other words, they were only really after Bassini, who they felt was solely responsible in practical terms, and they do't want him involved with football in the future. That explains why the sanction on the club is so light. After all, if the league approve every request for a transfer, the effect of the punishment on the club will be nil. I believe that the league only went for a three year ban on Bassini, because any longer he might have challenged it and it might not be enforcable in law.

jasonwatford says...
9:29am Tue 19 Mar 13

Reading all this i'm sure if the Pozzo family knew all of this they may well have deceided to go to Charlton !! Thank god my football team were taken over and we are now where we are. As fans we have never really said thank you to the pozzo family for what they have done and are doing. How as fans can we Thank them for this ??? Does anyone here own a printing company where we could get a big banner of sign saying this we could pass arounf the vicarage road end and the rookery end ?? Plus i also think it is time now for "Gino Pozzo's Zola made army " Any thoughts ????

llloydwithathirdl says...
9:50am Tue 19 Mar 13

What an awful man, I think we are lucky not to have got a points deduction.

The stupid thing is we all knew he was up to no good from the very start, yet still he was allowed to carry on.

He should be banned for another year from football for the way he treated GT. In fact he should be banned for life from football regardless.

Travelling Hornet says...
9:57am Tue 19 Mar 13

Excellent key punching Mr Smith!

pete500 says...
10:07am Tue 19 Mar 13

This is becoming a bit like Private Eye with a picture of Andrew Neill in string vest in every issue, under any pretext.
Got halfway through this before the cheat in the hard hat picture came up!

exeterhornet says...
10:11am Tue 19 Mar 13

I like to think that I am noy, by nature, a vindictive sort of person but I sincerely hope the Pozzos/WFC sue Mr B for every single penny of financial loss/charges/costs this situation has caused. Apart from that, I hope the fleas of a thousand camels infest his lower orifice for the rest of his days.

a1derek says...
10:20am Tue 19 Mar 13

Great reporting and must have been a tough job to bring out all the key points from the report.
Clearly if it wasn't for the Pozzos we would have doing a Pompey and be heading in the same direction as our now irrelevant neighbours. Probably better we don't know how close it was!
Yes, we have an awful lot to thank Pozzos for - the fine lines, eh?
Time to move on, we can watch the Baz v Russos v LNOC stuff as sport now! The future is now bright, thankfully. Would be good to do a public show of support for Pozzos.

Harry's Bar says...
10:35am Tue 19 Mar 13

There's so much in the report that beggar's belief. One thing, how can you have a man acting out the role of Chief Executive and signing cheques who is not working for the club, has no defined role and no expertise.

Vicar*o*rage says...
10:42am Tue 19 Mar 13

It is amazing that the FL gave LB the go ahead to purchase WFC, after his chequered financial history, and that he claims he was not aware of the fiscal problems, even after having the opportunity to examine the books, prior to his purchase.
The FDC have seen through LB deceit, half truths, and outright lies in reaching their decision, and his corrupt dealings with LNOC, using his front company to ensure the officials of the club were kept in the dark of his corrupt financial dealings.
WFC transfer embargo is a token slapped wrist, which, with our current management and owners, being of high repute, should not be much of a problem.
Graham Taylor's resignation, and comments, highlighted the problems with LB, as did the official who refused to give LB the safe key.

Well don Mr Duxberry and Professor Timperley for their work in getting this result at the FDC.

Paul Furlong says...
10:45am Tue 19 Mar 13

Frank.

Great piece of investigative reporting, you must have burnt the midnight oil to get that done! Exactly what we need to see from the Wobby, well done.

Still digesting all the facts, but just so delighted that whole rotten group are far removed from the club!

Harry's Bar says...
10:48am Tue 19 Mar 13

Another thing, how can you sell a football club to somebody who doesn't ask to see the books before buying. Surely that rang alarm bells if nothing else did.

Harry's Bar says...
10:56am Tue 19 Mar 13

Paul Furlong wrote:
Frank. Great piece of investigative reporting, you must have burnt the midnight oil to get that done! Exactly what we need to see from the Wobby, well done. Still digesting all the facts, but just so delighted that whole rotten group are far removed from the club!
Let's be correct about this, the WO have simply summarised the report published on the Football League's website. There wasn't any investigative reporting involved in the above.

londomollari says...
11:06am Tue 19 Mar 13

One further comment. How unbelievably lucky we are that the Pozzos turned up. Forget a couple of bad results. Even if we miss promotion this season, even if we lose every remaining game, we will still be a very fortunate and very lucky club to emerge from this fiasco as we have. Commission a sign to thank to Pozzos? We should probably commision a marble statue in Vicarge road with the word 'Thanks' engraved at the base.

llloydwithathirdl says...
11:20am Tue 19 Mar 13

londomollari wrote:
One further comment. How unbelievably lucky we are that the Pozzos turned up. Forget a couple of bad results. Even if we miss promotion this season, even if we lose every remaining game, we will still be a very fortunate and very lucky club to emerge from this fiasco as we have. Commission a sign to thank to Pozzos? We should probably commision a marble statue in Vicarge road with the word 'Thanks' engraved at the base.
Absolutely - I think we would be in administration, and bottom of the league.

We'd have sold the few saleable players left, and been left scrabbling for points with Garner up front.

We are extremely lucky, I think we would have gone into freefall like Portsmouth or Plymouth. Yet instead we have great owners, the most wonderful manager, and are pushing for automatic promotion playing some of the best football we've ever seen at Vic Road.

Miracles do happen. When we have a couple of bad results, we all need to remember just how lucky we have been this season.

a1derek says...
12:12pm Tue 19 Mar 13

I think the club still own the Red Lion (although not sure perhaps someone can confirm). Due to the financial situation and monies owing the club from Baz, I thought Pozzos retained it?

apatters says...
12:14pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Great work Frank - thanks.

1) he did due diligence on the club but didn't involve an accountant!

2) this was all for personal gain - I bet he walked away with at least a million.

3) As many have said, than heaven for the Pozzo's.

4) When Bazza came in for the club there were many who adopted the "give him a chance" approach, but as my mate Dave said.... " if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... then its a duck" In other words, Bazzini had been bankrupt, changed his name, and was almost guaranteed to be as slippery as an eel!

Let's draw a line under this, realise we've dodged a bullet here, and get promoted!

Life as a Watford fan eh?

stevyweavy says...
12:44pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Thanks Frank for taking the time to summarise the FDC report as most of us would not have taken the time to find and digest the full report ourselves.

It looks like the FDC quite rightly took a very sympathetic view of WFC's involvement in this. I hope there is a way for Bassini to get his come uppance and for WFC to be compensated for what clearly looks like some level of misappropriation of funds.

Do we still have the same Company Secretary? His negligence could have cost us dearly.

Guy Bov says...
12:55pm Tue 19 Mar 13

So glad to have the Pozzo's in charge as could so easily have gone the way of Portsmouth, Luton or could become the comedy that is Blackburn with the Venky's in charge.

Good to see an excellent summary from the Wobby but so so miss the insightful journalism of Oliver Phillips.
Wonder too what GT's views are on all this... maybe he can comment now the decision has been made by the Football League.

Smilingburkinshaw says...
12:59pm Tue 19 Mar 13

For me, these paragraphs below, are what are important and saved us! They are sooooo stupid they didnt even get their own story straight about informing the other Directors about this agreement! One said it was around a table, the other a phone call. This really did reinforce to the football league Watford knew nothing about it! Thank God for their stupidity!



On the claims of notifying the other Watford directors, the FDC findings stated: “We find as a fact that Mr Bassini did not, as he claimed, inform his fellow directors of the arranged forward funding from LNOC. We found the evidence of Mr Fransen, Professor Timperley and Mr Wilson to be cogent and persuasive on this point.

“There has been no evidence placed before us as to why the three men should conspire to lie about this topic, whereas Mr Bassini has an obvious reason for claiming that he had told them. In addition, we would have expected any information of the type which Mr Bassini says he passed to them to be followed up by some written correspondence and to be recorded in the board minutes, but it was not.”

It continued: “If that were not sufficient, our view is reinforced by Mr Bassini’s assertion in evidence that he had informed Mr Fransen about the forward funding by telephone at Mr Fransen’s home in Switzerland.

“Mr Barrea, who had apparently not been present when that evidence emerged, was to say on the second day of our hearing that he had been present when Mr Fransen was told at a football match “around a table”. This contradiction, asserted with certainty, left us with the very clear impression that Mr Barrea was prepared to say whatever he thought would assist Mr Bassini, without concern for the truth.”

Smilingburkinshaw says...
1:06pm Tue 19 Mar 13

My only slight concern is that it states the league assume we did get an advantage by being able to sign players when we shouldnt have been able to.

Does this leave us open to getting sued by the relagated clubs last year??

Ala - Sheff Utd v West Ham

Oracledave says...
1:07pm Tue 19 Mar 13

One point of potential future relevance.
The club can gain exemptions from the transfer embargo ending 31 August 2013 by express consent from the League.

That begs the question as to what criteria the League will employ when deciding whether to allow or disallow any particular transfer.

Smilingburkinshaw says...
1:11pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Surely it has to be their own Criteria! Or they would be breaking their own rules!

Thats why it seems a bit ridicoulous!

jasonwatford says...
1:36pm Tue 19 Mar 13

All in all it only means this , FL want to see the deal in full before we complete any transaction. With our loan signings it should be a straight forward transaction and anyone we wish to buy they will want to see we are providing funds to complete the transaction in the agreed terms of a sale.

laddie hornets says...
1:47pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Quite an indictment!

It's obvious that Bassini insists on surrounding himself with people he can either bully or who won't ask questions, but it's terrifying that there can be so many underhand deals undertaken behind the backs of those who DO have integrity. And this must have been obvious to those who sold the club to him.

Eastsussexhornet says...
1:49pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Smilingburkinshaw wrote:
My only slight concern is that it states the league assume we did get an advantage by being able to sign players when we shouldnt have been able to.

Does this leave us open to getting sued by the relagated clubs last year??

Ala - Sheff Utd v West Ham
Not really! It would have had to be one hell of an advantage if our "success" last season had directly affected one of the relgated clubs in a way that could be proven! No, I think you can rest easy on that one...

Smilingburkinshaw says...
2:01pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
Smilingburkinshaw wrote: My only slight concern is that it states the league assume we did get an advantage by being able to sign players when we shouldnt have been able to. Does this leave us open to getting sued by the relagated clubs last year?? Ala - Sheff Utd v West Ham
Not really! It would have had to be one hell of an advantage if our "success" last season had directly affected one of the relgated clubs in a way that could be proven! No, I think you can rest easy on that one...
I really hope so East Sussex!!!!

In GT We Trust says...
2:15pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Chris the Vic wrote:
A great article by Frank and congratulations to the FDC. We now have evidence indicating that LB and the lovely Angelo had a tendency towards cowboy behaviour. However, LB was selected by most of the board and Lord A as suitable buyers of the club after the tidal wave of problems generated under Homer's reign. Did it not seem to the then owners very odd that their was no due diligence, and did this not start alarm bells ringing with GT and his board who remained under LB. Whilst I suspect the board and Ms Wareham were told little I wonder why given all the signs that must have been there to see not worry them sufficiently for them to report matters to the authorities. Then there were the club auditors what were they doing and did they again not seek satisfactory answers. Bear in mind they are expected to carry our their duties with a questioning and cynical mind. These revelations beggar belief, thank heavens for the Pozzos.
If I remember rightly it was reported that the board didn't want Lord A to sell his shares to LB but as majority shareholder he could do what he wanted.

In GT We Trust says...
2:16pm Tue 19 Mar 13

In GT We Trust wrote:
Chris the Vic wrote: A great article by Frank and congratulations to the FDC. We now have evidence indicating that LB and the lovely Angelo had a tendency towards cowboy behaviour. However, LB was selected by most of the board and Lord A as suitable buyers of the club after the tidal wave of problems generated under Homer's reign. Did it not seem to the then owners very odd that their was no due diligence, and did this not start alarm bells ringing with GT and his board who remained under LB. Whilst I suspect the board and Ms Wareham were told little I wonder why given all the signs that must have been there to see not worry them sufficiently for them to report matters to the authorities. Then there were the club auditors what were they doing and did they again not seek satisfactory answers. Bear in mind they are expected to carry our their duties with a questioning and cynical mind. These revelations beggar belief, thank heavens for the Pozzos.
If I remember rightly it was reported that the board didn't want Lord A to sell his shares to LB but as majority shareholder he could do what he wanted.
So our board appear to have been better judges of character than those responsible for the 'fit and proper person' test at the Football League...

JohnnyHornet says...
2:30pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Traceyhornet wrote:
Staggering!!! Wonder where we'd be if the Pozzos' hadn't come along?
Far worse off than our Blue Sq adversaries up the M1 I suspect

Back from Hammerau says...
2:34pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Harry's Bar wrote:
Another thing, how can you sell a football club to somebody who doesn't ask to see the books before buying. Surely that rang alarm bells if nothing else did.
Why should you care?
As long as you're getting the money and any outstanding money is secured on a real asset, why would it matter to you?

JohnnyHornet says...
2:37pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Harry's Bar wrote:
Another thing, how can you sell a football club to somebody who doesn't ask to see the books before buying. Surely that rang alarm bells if nothing else did.
Very easily, the sellers I assume were well aware of the state of the clubs finances, as indicated previously, They see a little fat chump wanting to pay to buy the club and they were very willing sellers the fact chump chop failed to under take due diligence was a bonus I suspect for the sellers.

Back from Hammerau says...
3:02pm Tue 19 Mar 13

JohnnyHornet wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote: Another thing, how can you sell a football club to somebody who doesn't ask to see the books before buying. Surely that rang alarm bells if nothing else did.
Very easily, the sellers I assume were well aware of the state of the clubs finances, as indicated previously, They see a little fat chump wanting to pay to buy the club and they were very willing sellers the fact chump chop failed to under take due diligence was a bonus I suspect for the sellers.
And they were keen to sell the club and there was no one else interested in buying it to whom they were prepared to sell it.
I'm sure he had a good enough look at the books to make sure that he couldn't end up out-of-pocket by buying the club and to make sure that there would be opportunities for diverting some of the club's income in his own direction.

lockerbiehornet says...
3:13pm Tue 19 Mar 13

So if we get promoted I'm guessing we won't adopt the transfer embargo being under PL rules?

Eastsussexhornet says...
4:16pm Tue 19 Mar 13

lockerbiehornet wrote:
So if we get promoted I'm guessing we won't adopt the transfer embargo being under PL rules?
Don't know, may be not. But remember, this is only a transfer embargo by name, not in reality. All it means is that we have someone looking over our shoulders for 6 months to see that we are doing it properly. Political move, that's all.

andyhooked says...
4:46pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Let us not get hung up by the quasi -transfer embargo. We can by and sell provided we inform all the football authorites involved. The BBC text this morning was crap in this regard. Next thing I shall do is get my season card renewal and just look at our results and the results of others. A bad weekend up at Barnsely but the others lost as well. Forest seem to be a new danger just have to get back to winning ways

maxbrannan says...
6:29pm Tue 19 Mar 13

well well well. Are we surprised? Great indepth article, well written. BUT... We are talking about a man, who changed his surname due to being previously banned from being a company director, who is well known for his dealings in NW london, and yet this story has the halmark of a bigger swindle and sting in its tail. I fear for WFC, the trading and share dealings smacks of some crooked way of extracting money from WFC. I am surprised the HMRC haven't investigated this for fraud, and surely the Football League should have some ownership in responsibility to watford for not doing enough background checks on LB and where his money came from, that is yet to be explained. it is very very sinister and shady, and I fear the worst is yet to come. Still Watford in the Prem next year and LB will be hopefully behind bars and all will be forgotten.

londomollari says...
7:08pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Smilingburkinshaw wrote:
My only slight concern is that it states the league assume we did get an advantage by being able to sign players when we shouldnt have been able to.

Does this leave us open to getting sued by the relagated clubs last year??

Ala - Sheff Utd v West Ham
Nah. Apart from anything else, Sheff U. and west Ham were, as I recollect, playing the last game of the season only a point or two apart and in the relegation zone. Watford were well away from the relegation zone and having very little influence on the relegation outcome.
Respect to Dyche who managed the playing side throughout this farce and took the club to mid table.

londomollari says...
7:18pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Perhaps we can suggest to the relegated clubs that they sue that red helmeted knob Bas

maxbrannan says...
7:26pm Tue 19 Mar 13

if we get promoted then surely we go by the Prem league rules? or are they the same? so does the embargo lift?

Smilingburkinshaw says...
7:27pm Tue 19 Mar 13

But say we took say 6 points off one of the relegated teams and they got relegated by 4 points, could they argue we had an unfair advantage??? I haven't bothered checking if that was the case mind.

Smilingburkinshaw says...
7:34pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Nah 3rd bottom team got relegated by 8 points so that wouldn't wash!

croxley46 says...
8:06pm Tue 19 Mar 13

What an absolutely evil, scheming 4rseh**e, cheat and liar that Bassini is . Let's hope all those who have claims against him are successful (including HMRC?) and he gets sent down for what he did to OUR club.
I trust all our football authorities will watch carefully if he tries to change his name again....

jasonwatford says...
8:07pm Tue 19 Mar 13

please please stop getting embrollied in this term embargo.....it will not effect us in any way at all now....we can still sign our loan players and others, now we have real football owners they know the procedures and any transaction just needs to be run passed the FL or Prem league before the deal is completed. Then after August 31st are clear to carry on...They had to do something to Watford and this believe me is the like getting a free out of jail card.

Terry Dactile says...
9:10pm Tue 19 Mar 13

Think you all have that nice Mr Bassini wrong. I think we should all welcome him to the Burnley game on good Friday in the Rookery.............
......Then by the end he will have the right colours to sit in the away end.

D.unstable says...
9:35pm Tue 19 Mar 13

So who owns the pub?

mkhornet says...
10:44pm Tue 19 Mar 13

If I remember correctly when I was at a previous fan's forum GT was asked the question as to what influence he and the board could exert on Lord A regarding a future sale of the club. GTs response was that he and the board could raise their concerns if they felt that the sale wasn't in the best interests of the club but ultimately Lord A could sell to who he wanted as he was the majority shareholder and that they would be powerless to stop him. From what I understand this is pretty much what happened when he sold to LB.

In GT We Trust says...
11:04pm Tue 19 Mar 13

mkhornet wrote:
If I remember correctly when I was at a previous fan's forum GT was asked the question as to what influence he and the board could exert on Lord A regarding a future sale of the club. GTs response was that he and the board could raise their concerns if they felt that the sale wasn't in the best interests of the club but ultimately Lord A could sell to who he wanted as he was the majority shareholder and that they would be powerless to stop him. From what I understand this is pretty much what happened when he sold to LB.
Spot on. And once again, well done to the loan note holders (basically Ashcroft & Fransen, I think) for getting it written into the deal that LB would forfeit his shares if he defaulted on his repayments. That's how they pushed him out of the door - if that hadn't been in place it would have been much messier and the Pozzo deal almost certainly would never have gone through...

luther blissett says...
11:51pm Tue 19 Mar 13

So what was in the safe?

Smilingburkinshaw says...
8:18am Wed 20 Mar 13

luther blissett wrote:
So what was in the safe?
His gimp Barrea!

mkhornet says...
9:40am Wed 20 Mar 13

luther blissett wrote:
So what was in the safe?
Certainly not the Football League rule book!

mellow yellow says...
9:44am Wed 20 Mar 13

What a vile little man, and what an escape for the club. The contrast between out previous and current owners could not be greater. Whatever the outcome of this and other seasons, we fans should ALWAYS be grateful to the Pozzos, our board members with integrity, and those people who had the guts to stand up and be counted. Bravo. Forza Watford!

Back from Hammerau says...
9:46am Wed 20 Mar 13

luther blissett wrote:
So what was in the safe?
Several tens of thousands of pounds

mkhornet says...
9:46am Wed 20 Mar 13

Although I'm a massive Zola fan, love the way we're playing and think that we're very lucky to have the current set up (I certainly wouldn't want to go back), all these revelations about what was going on in the background make it even more remarkable what Sean Dyche achieved in dreadful circumstances. Whatever people think about where we're at now SD deserves a fantastic reception from our fans at the Burnley game, followed by a rousing chorus of "Gianfranco Whoahh etc..."

londomollari says...
10:16am Wed 20 Mar 13

mkhornet wrote:
Although I'm a massive Zola fan, love the way we're playing and think that we're very lucky to have the current set up (I certainly wouldn't want to go back), all these revelations about what was going on in the background make it even more remarkable what Sean Dyche achieved in dreadful circumstances. Whatever people think about where we're at now SD deserves a fantastic reception from our fans at the Burnley game, followed by a rousing chorus of "Gianfranco Whoahh etc..."
Absolutly agree. It must have been a nightmare trying to manage the playing side when the club was run by Bas and his cohorts. Whatever we may feel about Sean's tactics and team, he did far more to keep the club in existence than the owners. If Watford had dropped down a division, would the Pozzo's still have bought the club? Good luick to SD in his future career.

Harry's Bar says...
10:35am Wed 20 Mar 13

Back from Hammerau wrote:
JohnnyHornet wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote: Another thing, how can you sell a football club to somebody who doesn't ask to see the books before buying. Surely that rang alarm bells if nothing else did.
Very easily, the sellers I assume were well aware of the state of the clubs finances, as indicated previously, They see a little fat chump wanting to pay to buy the club and they were very willing sellers the fact chump chop failed to under take due diligence was a bonus I suspect for the sellers.
And they were keen to sell the club and there was no one else interested in buying it to whom they were prepared to sell it. I'm sure he had a good enough look at the books to make sure that he couldn't end up out-of-pocket by buying the club and to make sure that there would be opportunities for diverting some of the club's income in his own direction.
He wasn't going to end up out of pocket, it wasn't his money. A couple of lettuce growing roughnecks from Essex stood to lose. Unfortunately for them they didn't take into account Baz's opportunistic side.

Back from Hammerau says...
11:10am Wed 20 Mar 13

Harry's Bar wrote:
Back from Hammerau wrote:
JohnnyHornet wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote: Another thing, how can you sell a football club to somebody who doesn't ask to see the books before buying. Surely that rang alarm bells if nothing else did.
Very easily, the sellers I assume were well aware of the state of the clubs finances, as indicated previously, They see a little fat chump wanting to pay to buy the club and they were very willing sellers the fact chump chop failed to under take due diligence was a bonus I suspect for the sellers.
And they were keen to sell the club and there was no one else interested in buying it to whom they were prepared to sell it. I'm sure he had a good enough look at the books to make sure that he couldn't end up out-of-pocket by buying the club and to make sure that there would be opportunities for diverting some of the club's income in his own direction.
He wasn't going to end up out of pocket, it wasn't his money. A couple of lettuce growing roughnecks from Essex stood to lose. Unfortunately for them they didn't take into account Baz's opportunistic side.
According to the documents it was half his money and half their's. And they're currently suing him to get it back.

Harry's Bar says...
12:32pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Back from Hammerau wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
Back from Hammerau wrote:
JohnnyHornet wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote: Another thing, how can you sell a football club to somebody who doesn't ask to see the books before buying. Surely that rang alarm bells if nothing else did.
Very easily, the sellers I assume were well aware of the state of the clubs finances, as indicated previously, They see a little fat chump wanting to pay to buy the club and they were very willing sellers the fact chump chop failed to under take due diligence was a bonus I suspect for the sellers.
And they were keen to sell the club and there was no one else interested in buying it to whom they were prepared to sell it. I'm sure he had a good enough look at the books to make sure that he couldn't end up out-of-pocket by buying the club and to make sure that there would be opportunities for diverting some of the club's income in his own direction.
He wasn't going to end up out of pocket, it wasn't his money. A couple of lettuce growing roughnecks from Essex stood to lose. Unfortunately for them they didn't take into account Baz's opportunistic side.
According to the documents it was half his money and half their's. And they're currently suing him to get it back.
It doesn't say it was half Bassini's money. Bassini lost any money he may of had when he was bankrupted. He was claiming benefits in 2008, and lives(d) in a run down bungalow apparently.

Buenos Aires Hornet says...
12:48pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Classic away kit that Danny Graham is wearing. Hopefully Puma bring the AC Milan look back.

mellow yellow says...
1:00pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Buenos Aires Hornet wrote:
Classic away kit that Danny Graham is wearing. Hopefully Puma bring the AC Milan look back.
Agreed. Best away kit of all time, though I also have a soft spot for the all black kit from our Toshiba sponsored days.

Back from Hammerau says...
1:55pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Harry's Bar wrote:
Back from Hammerau wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
Back from Hammerau wrote:
JohnnyHornet wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote: Another thing, how can you sell a football club to somebody who doesn't ask to see the books before buying. Surely that rang alarm bells if nothing else did.
Very easily, the sellers I assume were well aware of the state of the clubs finances, as indicated previously, They see a little fat chump wanting to pay to buy the club and they were very willing sellers the fact chump chop failed to under take due diligence was a bonus I suspect for the sellers.
And they were keen to sell the club and there was no one else interested in buying it to whom they were prepared to sell it. I'm sure he had a good enough look at the books to make sure that he couldn't end up out-of-pocket by buying the club and to make sure that there would be opportunities for diverting some of the club's income in his own direction.
He wasn't going to end up out of pocket, it wasn't his money. A couple of lettuce growing roughnecks from Essex stood to lose. Unfortunately for them they didn't take into account Baz's opportunistic side.
According to the documents it was half his money and half their's. And they're currently suing him to get it back.
It doesn't say it was half Bassini's money. Bassini lost any money he may of had when he was bankrupted. He was claiming benefits in 2008, and lives(d) in a run down bungalow apparently.
According to the Football League's document...
"There is no dispute that Mr Bassini was validly appointed as a Director of the Club and at all relevant times represented himself to the League and to the Club as the beneficial owner of the shares in the Club. However it is right to record that in his
Second Witness Statement he qualified the position as follows: “Although...at the
time of incorporation, I was the sole beneficial owner of the shares in Watford F.C. pursuant to a declaration of trust and Mr Panos Thomas was the nominee and legal
owner of the shares for the sake of clarity and full disclosure I wanted to confirm that subsequently I held 50% of the said shares on behalf of Valley Grown Salads Unlimited (as referred to as “VGS” in the First Witness Statement)”."

He was not claiming benefits at the time of the takeover. During his ownership of the club he was driving a Maserati with a personalised number plate.
A document signed by GT as chairman sent to shareholders by the club at the time of the takeover said he was payuing for the club from his existing funds.

londomollari says...
2:33pm Wed 20 Mar 13

We should ask ourselves, if 50% of trhe shares were his, from where did his share of the money came. Was it his? Where did it come from? Did he 'borrow' it from VGS as part of their deal, to be paid back when the club was sold on---or as part of his 'wages' for being the figurehead and target of fans abuse? Or was it family funds 'luckily' exempt from his bankruptcy?
Oh, I am so looking forward to the VGS/Bas court proceedings.

londomollari says...
2:38pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Also, the mysterious Panos Thomas. His funds? His input? A respectable figurehead for the FL, etc.? Perhaps someone has explained this guys input previously, and I've missed it---.

Harry's Bar says...
3:36pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Back from Hammerau wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
Back from Hammerau wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
Back from Hammerau wrote:
JohnnyHornet wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote: Another thing, how can you sell a football club to somebody who doesn't ask to see the books before buying. Surely that rang alarm bells if nothing else did.
Very easily, the sellers I assume were well aware of the state of the clubs finances, as indicated previously, They see a little fat chump wanting to pay to buy the club and they were very willing sellers the fact chump chop failed to under take due diligence was a bonus I suspect for the sellers.
And they were keen to sell the club and there was no one else interested in buying it to whom they were prepared to sell it. I'm sure he had a good enough look at the books to make sure that he couldn't end up out-of-pocket by buying the club and to make sure that there would be opportunities for diverting some of the club's income in his own direction.
He wasn't going to end up out of pocket, it wasn't his money. A couple of lettuce growing roughnecks from Essex stood to lose. Unfortunately for them they didn't take into account Baz's opportunistic side.
According to the documents it was half his money and half their's. And they're currently suing him to get it back.
It doesn't say it was half Bassini's money. Bassini lost any money he may of had when he was bankrupted. He was claiming benefits in 2008, and lives(d) in a run down bungalow apparently.
According to the Football League's document... "There is no dispute that Mr Bassini was validly appointed as a Director of the Club and at all relevant times represented himself to the League and to the Club as the beneficial owner of the shares in the Club. However it is right to record that in his Second Witness Statement he qualified the position as follows: “Although...at the time of incorporation, I was the sole beneficial owner of the shares in Watford F.C. pursuant to a declaration of trust and Mr Panos Thomas was the nominee and legal owner of the shares for the sake of clarity and full disclosure I wanted to confirm that subsequently I held 50% of the said shares on behalf of Valley Grown Salads Unlimited (as referred to as “VGS” in the First Witness Statement)”." He was not claiming benefits at the time of the takeover. During his ownership of the club he was driving a Maserati with a personalised number plate. A document signed by GT as chairman sent to shareholders by the club at the time of the takeover said he was payuing for the club from his existing funds.
I think we may need to explore the possibility that Laurence wasn't telling the truth.

Also, that the Maserati was leased from money lent to Bassini from puppet master turned puppet Jimmy "God, what have I done" Russo.

londomollari says...
3:50pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Laurence not telling the truth? Surely not! You know, if The Russo's were so unbelievably daft as to lend Bas that money, I almost hope he gets away with it---as long as, subsequently, Her Majesty sues him for taxes, or fraud, or evryone else sues him as well

stewbyhorn says...
4:01pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Mmmmmmn, the brothers were fronting 50% off the money??? The same salad dodgers that were voted from the board? Wow what a lucky escape we had, I gave Bas the benefit of doubt to prove himself as a saviour of our club and it's been proven what a dodgy no good scumbag he was, lets thinks ourselves lucky that the Pozzo family have saved us from doom. Onwards and upwards u orrrrns!!!!

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...
4:17pm Wed 20 Mar 13

stewbyhorn wrote:
Mmmmmmn, the brothers were fronting 50% off the money??? The same salad dodgers that were voted from the board? Wow what a lucky escape we had, I gave Bas the benefit of doubt to prove himself as a saviour of our club and it's been proven what a dodgy no good scumbag he was, lets thinks ourselves lucky that the Pozzo family have saved us from doom. Onwards and upwards u orrrrns!!!!
Same here. We really do need a proper Pozzo chant to show our appreciation.

maxbrannan says...
6:41pm Wed 20 Mar 13

any decent journo doing a bit of digging and detective work will find a whole load of dirt on LB. you only have to walk down stanmore high street and ask locals and the stories are rife, enough to make your pretty little toe nails curl. Aparentley known to think of himself as the local nth london mafia, what makes it worse is our lot were taken in by him, or were they too afraid to speak out?

Goonermc10 says...
6:51pm Wed 20 Mar 13

Whichever way you break it down I can't help but think we got a right touch, and thank god Bassini had left the Club.

Harry's Bar says...
10:07am Thu 21 Mar 13

maxbrannan wrote:
any decent journo doing a bit of digging and detective work will find a whole load of dirt on LB. you only have to walk down stanmore high street and ask locals and the stories are rife, enough to make your pretty little toe nails curl. Aparentley known to think of himself as the local nth london mafia, what makes it worse is our lot were taken in by him, or were they too afraid to speak out?
Yep, Baz was well known in the local business community as crooked at the time he approached the club.
I don't beleive the club were afraid of Bassini, they just got conned. I would be more wary of the Essex mob in terms of mafia style behaviour. Keep looking over your shoulder Laurence!

midtable says...
3:05pm Thu 21 Mar 13

The good news is we did not get a points deduction and we can still get promotion.

The boardroom has been well-dodgy for a long time and each subsequent "saviour" has turned out to being a "very naughty boy".

Holloway will be spitting blood that we did nto get a stricter punishment.

Dyche deserves a very hearty cheer when he visits us next week as do the players who performed so well last year to keep us in the Championship.

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