AUDIO: Clark stresses Watford shouldn't be criticised for their loan policy (From This Is Local London)

Well he's a barrel of laughs.

...because he doesn't try to be a stand-up comedian like Holloway, you mean?! I think I'd be the same if I was in Lee Clark's shoes right now.

And fair play to him. His pre-match interviews said he had no problem with Watford, and he was balanced and well-informed in his views. Unlike someone else, who benefited (once again) from a sold player and a Watford old boy (on loan) yesterday...

jalvin wrote:
Well he's a barrel of laughs.

But fair play to a manager that's just been stuffed and potentially gonna get the bullet, for not jumping on the misguided bandwagon and aiming the barrel exactly where it should be aimed the FL

Yes fair pay to him though you won't find many Brum fans with very nice things to say about him right now! I think the man has integrity for dropping Zigic who pretty much refused to participate in training last week. Zigic earns £60k a week btw.
Either way Clark will probably get the bullet if they can't beat Sheffield Weds in the week.
And the fact of the matter is...no-one would give two hoots about our foreign loanees if we weren't doing so well. If people are genuinely worried that so many foreign 'imports' deprive homegrown youngsters just take a look at Newcastle and count how many homegrowns you see there!
Others are jealous of our success and they wish they were in our position...simple as.

Exactly we haven't broke any rules!! The word loophole is wrong. It's been said many times on this website but would all the knockers be on the case if we near the bottom of the league!

Lee Clark should carry a heath warning ,,,
Now where did I put those anti-depressants?

Fair play to him - bet he wishes he had our luxuries as opposed to £50k a week rags which he's inherited!

Fair play Lee Clark, when will people realise there is a fundamental difference between foreign and domestic loans reason being is if say Leicester had a surplus of players and leant them to Wolves then they would play those loan players against Leicesters rivals and not be able to against Leicester (and of course would not want to). This is a very straight forward conflict of interests and this loans are restricted in number. There is o such conflict for foreign loans. This has been this the case for decades on the continent and I would be surprised if the league are able to change it via UEFA, FIFA or the EU employment law as it amounts to restraint of trade.

I used to quite like Holloway and hate Palace now i am able to hate both again! Happy days!

Some people on here seem to be struggling with the definition of a loophole. One or two have even suggested 'it can't be a loophole because it's legal.' That's exactly the point - identifying and exploiting a loophole, as Duxbury and Co have done at The Vic, is entirely legal. Here's a decent business definition of a loophole......'A person or company utilising a loophole is not considered to be breaking the law, but circumventing it in a way that was not intended by the regulators or legislators that put the law or restriction into place. Most loopholes will close in time, as those who have the power to do so rewrite the rules to cut off the opportunity for loophole advantage.' Which is precisely what will happen in this instance - too late to stop the Pozzo's but soon enough to stop others trying to repeat the trick. In other words, we've beaten the game.

bushey tales wrote:
Some people on here seem to be struggling with the definition of a loophole. One or two have even suggested 'it can't be a loophole because it's legal.' That's exactly the point - identifying and exploiting a loophole, as Duxbury and Co have done at The Vic, is entirely legal. Here's a decent business definition of a loophole......'A person or company utilising a loophole is not considered to be breaking the law, but circumventing it in a way that was not intended by the regulators or legislators that put the law or restriction into place. Most loopholes will close in time, as those who have the power to do so rewrite the rules to cut off the opportunity for loophole advantage.' Which is precisely what will happen in this instance - too late to stop the Pozzo's but soon enough to stop others trying to repeat the trick. In other words, we've beaten the game.

There are rules and there are loopholes. It doesn't really matter about the definition of "loophole" because this isn't one. We're not "utilising" anything. We're just abiding by the rules.

On the contrary. We're cleverly utilising a poorly-written, ill-considered rule. As you say, we're absolutely abiding by the rules. It's just that those responsible for drafting the rules didn't think through the implications of the rules they were drafting. Because they weren't very imaginative. The funniest result would surely be if the Football League rewrote their rule book to stop anybody else 'exploiting the loophole'......just as we were promoted to the Prem, who of course have an entirely different set of rules. I think we'd all settle for that outcome.

bushey tales wrote:
On the contrary. We're cleverly utilising a poorly-written, ill-considered rule. As you say, we're absolutely abiding by the rules. It's just that those responsible for drafting the rules didn't think through the implications of the rules they were drafting. Because they weren't very imaginative. The funniest result would surely be if the Football League rewrote their rule book to stop anybody else 'exploiting the loophole'......just as we were promoted to the Prem, who of course have an entirely different set of rules. I think we'd all settle for that outcome.

Shouldn't you be on the Burnley web site?
It's perfectly legal at the moment to loan as many foreign players as we have, it's not sidestepping a rule, so I disagree, it is not a loophole. It's become one because people like you and our meany enemies keep utilising the word.
Anyway, I'd rather have Clarkes gracious monolouge than that nasty little wannabe comic poisoned dwarf ollyisms. Blokes illiterate at best

I don't like Burnley. I've seen the Horns on 102 league grounds and Turf Moor's the only one where I've been hit by a coin. It's OK though - I don't expect sympathy from you! And I agree, while Lee Clark is not a man with whom you'd choose to share a camping holiday, he'd certainly be a better companion than that Bristolian half-wit.

bushey tales wrote:
I don't like Burnley. I've seen the Horns on 102 league grounds and Turf Moor's the only one where I've been hit by a coin. It's OK though - I don't expect sympathy from you! And I agree, while Lee Clark is not a man with whom you'd choose to share a camping holiday, he'd certainly be a better companion than that Bristolian half-wit.

Since when have they had money to throw away in Burnley !

bushey tales wrote:
Some people on here seem to be struggling with the definition of a loophole. One or two have even suggested 'it can't be a loophole because it's legal.' That's exactly the point - identifying and exploiting a loophole, as Duxbury and Co have done at The Vic, is entirely legal. Here's a decent business definition of a loophole......'A person or company utilising a loophole is not considered to be breaking the law, but circumventing it in a way that was not intended by the regulators or legislators that put the law or restriction into place. Most loopholes will close in time, as those who have the power to do so rewrite the rules to cut off the opportunity for loophole advantage.' Which is precisely what will happen in this instance - too late to stop the Pozzo's but soon enough to stop others trying to repeat the trick. In other words, we've beaten the game.

How can you say Duxbury and Nani have identified a loophole, when Granada did the self same thing by having a large influx of players from Udinese a few years ago?

Don't know how all you guys find it but other clubs that moan about our loans are just stupid!
No rules broken mean its perfectly acceptable! They are just jealous that we've found a successful business model... Fact!
There has never been a rule for any club in the league to not do what we have done! Fact
Holloway **** like a spoilt little brat but the fact of the matter is we both finished the game with the same amount of loans! Fact
So what if we have some foreigners play.. It's EU and fair employment legislation! Fact
It's not like we play 11 non GB/Irish players... Arsenal? Fact
Realistically it's only Abdi, Vydra, Ekstrand, Cassetti and Pudil that play regular and Chaloboah is from Chelsea! Fact
Hall, Hoban, Almunia, Deeney, Doyley, Nosworthy, Murray, Smith, Eustace, Yeates are all classed as home grown!
There are always things in football that happen that are apparently unfair on others however I find our unexcepable behaviour well well well down that list of unfair things!

The stars are the word bicthes lol

this is the song they should play before and at half time...http://www.yo
utube.com/watch?v=SC
dGa-jE5I8


Who Let the Orns Out....Ska music. I've been banging on about his for the last year . tell me what your think..

Definitely think cold plays "yellow" can be tailored to us but sometimes trying to re jig pop songs are hard as they can be long winded!
For it to be successful a chant/song needs to be simple, that way more will join in!
I'm up for anything but maybe for now just getting back to simple and prolonged renditions of yellow army, Watford till I die, we're the horns, gianfranco zolas yellow army etc etc is the way forward! We need to be singing the same song for longer then a minute before stopping! These songs are easily continued.

Holly68 wrote:
"Yellow"

Verse 1 :

See Watford's stars,
Look how they shine for you,
And everything you do,
We are all yellow.

Verse 2 :

We come along,
We sing this song for you,
And all the things you do,
We are all "Yellow".

Verse 3 :

Your skills,
Oh yeah your skill and goals,
Turn in,
to something beautiful,
You know,
you know I love you so,
You know I love you soo ...

The magical mystery tour is coming to take Paul away!

JohnnyHornet wrote:

bushey tales wrote:
I don't like Burnley. I've seen the Horns on 102 league grounds and Turf Moor's the only one where I've been hit by a coin. It's OK though - I don't expect sympathy from you! And I agree, while Lee Clark is not a man with whom you'd choose to share a camping holiday, he'd certainly be a better companion than that Bristolian half-wit.

Since when have they had money to throw away in Burnley !

You are right It must have been Lutondown who thew the coin at him & not a dingle.

JohnnyHornet wrote:

bushey tales wrote:
I don't like Burnley. I've seen the Horns on 102 league grounds and Turf Moor's the only one where I've been hit by a coin. It's OK though - I don't expect sympathy from you! And I agree, while Lee Clark is not a man with whom you'd choose to share a camping holiday, he'd certainly be a better companion than that Bristolian half-wit.

Since when have they had money to throw away in Burnley !

In the 'old' standing Rookery I used to get hit by coins, batteries etc every week, if you were lucky you'd pick up enough to pay for the next home game.

Who remembers the mesh divide they put up in the middle, must have been in the early 80's....Hemel, Abbotts, South Oxhey in their little groups, then Billy Cadealy leading the singing from the front with snot running down his face, the good old days!!!

But they are coming back again.....

D.unstable wrote:

JohnnyHornet wrote:

bushey tales wrote:
I don't like Burnley. I've seen the Horns on 102 league grounds and Turf Moor's the only one where I've been hit by a coin. It's OK though - I don't expect sympathy from you! And I agree, while Lee Clark is not a man with whom you'd choose to share a camping holiday, he'd certainly be a better companion than that Bristolian half-wit.

Since when have they had money to throw away in Burnley !

In the 'old' standing Rookery I used to get hit by coins, batteries etc every week, if you were lucky you'd pick up enough to pay for the next home game.

Who remembers the mesh divide they put up in the middle, must have been in the early 80's....Hemel, Abbotts, South Oxhey in their little groups, then Billy Cadealy leading the singing from the front with snot running down his face, the good old days!!!

But they are coming back again.....

I was in the rookery in those days. Leicester used to throw batteries.... Remember when 3 Leicester scaled the back wall of the rookery to get to Watford side. coins, batteries, umbrellas, yogurts, shoe, think I got hit by it all

I got hit by a snowball, thrown from a long way away, at Highfield Road during that Cup-tie when Coton was unbelievable and Trevor Senior scored by accident. That hurt - the snowball I mean, not Big Trev. But the coin at Burnley, predictably enough, was only a 10p.

Evening all.

Back to the subject... Lee Clark is a dignified man with a sharper mind than that ridiculous Palace jester. Shame for Clark he's on a sinking brummie ship.

We are all yellow!

Only downside yesterday was red shorts.

We used to play "Yellow" all the time at the Vic when the song first came out. I remember saying that to the parents of the Coldplay drummer when we saw them in Brixton when "Parachutes" was released. They weren't too impressed, seeing as they support Southampton!

As for the Ska track, I'm pretty sure that was by the Shrodells, and done in time for the Wembley 99 final. Yes, why don't we play that. Can't beat a bit of ska.

Eastsussexhornet wrote:

bushey tales wrote: Some people on here seem to be struggling with the definition of a loophole. One or two have even suggested 'it can't be a loophole because it's legal.' That's exactly the point - identifying and exploiting a loophole, as Duxbury and Co have done at The Vic, is entirely legal. Here's a decent business definition of a loophole......'A person or company utilising a loophole is not considered to be breaking the law, but circumventing it in a way that was not intended by the regulators or legislators that put the law or restriction into place. Most loopholes will close in time, as those who have the power to do so rewrite the rules to cut off the opportunity for loophole advantage.' Which is precisely what will happen in this instance - too late to stop the Pozzo's but soon enough to stop others trying to repeat the trick. In other words, we've beaten the game.

There are rules and there are loopholes. It doesn't really matter about the definition of "loophole" because this isn't one. We're not "utilising" anything. We're just abiding by the rules.

Agree with you East Sussex. We aren't circumventing the rules so are not utilising a loophole.

Bush Hornet wrote:
Evening all. Back to the subject... Lee Clark is a dignified man with a sharper mind than that ridiculous Palace jester. Shame for Clark he's on a sinking brummie ship. We are all yellow! Only downside yesterday was red shorts.

Yes, why doesn't that West Country throbber go back to live with his straw chewing, carrot crunching, swede bashing mates on the cider farm. And take your stupid hat and red gloves with you!

Boring....especially after the opening tag........."wouldn'
t want to be in Clark's shoes." The comedy cafe beckons.
Heard Steve Bruce going on about getting 2 Egyptian internationals in on loan......not a problem. Also heard him say 7 more wins would get them into the Prem.............er not if we win 9 sunshine. Go on Steve, keep talking your team......

The football league show like the term "loophole" and it is not a term that sits well with me for obvious reasons. As ever nobody mentions how much some of the teams around us have spent, as far as i know our most expensive player is Deeney at £500k, yet others clubs have players purchased for 3/4 times that easily....not to mention salaries of 20-30k easily...but its not fair wehave got a load of loans!!

kingofpop wrote:
The football league show like the term "loophole" and it is not a term that sits well with me for obvious reasons. As ever nobody mentions how much some of the teams around us have spent, as far as i know our most expensive player is Deeney at £500k, yet others clubs have players purchased for 3/4 times that easily....not to mention salaries of 20-30k easily...but its not fair wehave got a load of loans!!

Manish was on about it again on Saturday. What was it..... "credit to the Hornets I suppose, they have exploited a loophole".... Tool!