Matej Vydra plays less than an hour for Czech Republic handing Watford a boost ahead of Crystal Palace clash
11:01am Thursday 7th February 2013 in Latest Sport
International round-up: Watford handed Vydra boost
Matej Vydra's chances of playing for Watford against Crystal Palace tomorrow were handed a boost as the Hornets' hitman played less than an hour for the Czech Republic last night.
The Hornets' match with Crystal Palace was moved forward a day due to the game being televised on Sky Sports, but this leaves the club's international players with less time to recover.
However, Watford will welcome the fact Vydra was replaced after 56 minutes as the Czechs beat Turkey 2-0.
Watford team-mate Daniel Pudil did not join the Czech squad for the fixture as initially reported; he was on the standby list.
An injury update for the Hornets will be uploaded later this evening after we have spoken to Gianfranco Zola but this week's events suggest Tommie Hoban could also be available following injury.
The 19-year-old was allowed to return from international duty early by the Football Association of Ireland at the request of Watford.
Hoban has not been in action for Watford since New Year's Day due to injury but played on Tuesday night in the Republic of Ireland Under-19s' 2-1 victory over the Czech Republic.
Hornets midfielder Sean Murray was one of just two Republic of Ireland Under-21 players to play the whole game as Noel King's men pulled off an impressive 3-0 victory against the Netherlands.
Millwall's Aiden O'Brien scored twice and Wolves midfielder Anthony Forde was also on target.
Watford defender Nyron Nosworthy also played 90 minutes as Jamaica were held to a 0-0 draw with Mexico in the early hours of this morning.
It is currently unclear what time Nosworthy will return home to England, which suggests Lloyd Doyley may retain his spot in the side.
Two of the Hornets' midfield three from Saturday were also on international duty this week.
Cristian Battocchio played 45 minutes before being substituted at half time in Italy Under-20s' 2-0 defeat to Germany last night.
On-loan Chelsea midfielder Nathaniel Chalobah picked up his second England Under-21 cap as England beat Sweden 4-0 on Tuesday night.
Chalobah replaced Chelsea team-mate Josh McEachran after 67 minutes.
Comments(77)
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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11:30am Thu 7 Feb 13
llloydwithathirdl wrote:I really hope you're wrong. If he's tired, replace him after 60 but must start with our best 11.
Still really doubt Vydra will start on Friday.
Travelling Hornet
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11:33am Thu 7 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet
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11:34am Thu 7 Feb 13
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:He'll be in the squad but a sub...
llloydwithathirdl wrote:I really hope you're wrong. If he's tired, replace him after 60 but must start with our best 11.
Still really doubt Vydra will start on Friday.
Bush Hornet
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11:37am Thu 7 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet
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11:39am Thu 7 Feb 13
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:I agree with you though. But that's not the way it's done for some reason. I would try to get the points in the bag first and then take him off.
llloydwithathirdl wrote:I really hope you're wrong. If he's tired, replace him after 60 but must start with our best 11.
Still really doubt Vydra will start on Friday.
londomollari
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11:43am Thu 7 Feb 13
DuffmanWFC
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11:44am Thu 7 Feb 13
Not being funny but how long is it to Newcastle in a bus? Exactly.
It's good that Nos and Sean played 90 mins as they needed it! And Vydra, Chaloboah, Hoban played enough mins for no bad effects for Friday night!
I expect the following line up vs Palace;
Alumina
Ekstrand
Hall
Doyley
Chaloboah
Abdi
Pudil
Cassetti
Bottacchio
Vydra
Deeney
Subs: Bond, Nosworthy, Yeates or Murray, Geijo, Forrestieri, Eustace, Hoban or Muji Bai
Quite honestly that must be the best side in the Championship from 1 to 18!
londomollari
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11:49am Thu 7 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet
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11:52am Thu 7 Feb 13
DuffmanWFC wrote:I agree, including the last sentence. I can't wait for the home match with Cardiff - then we'll know for sure!
I can't see how they won't feature at some point against Palace! Most of them are playing in a similar time zone and only have a few hours plane journey!
Not being funny but how long is it to Newcastle in a bus? Exactly.
It's good that Nos and Sean played 90 mins as they needed it! And Vydra, Chaloboah, Hoban played enough mins for no bad effects for Friday night!
I expect the following line up vs Palace;
Alumina
Ekstrand
Hall
Doyley
Chaloboah
Abdi
Pudil
Cassetti
Bottacchio
Vydra
Deeney
Subs: Bond, Nosworthy, Yeates or Murray, Geijo, Forrestieri, Eustace, Hoban or Muji Bai
Quite honestly that must be the best side in the Championship from 1 to 18!
PeteBogHorrorHornet
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11:53am Thu 7 Feb 13
akureyri
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11:55am Thu 7 Feb 13
Ronny oh Ronny Ronny
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12:11pm Thu 7 Feb 13
DuffmanWFC wrote:Quite agree with you Duffers, I keep telling people I know that we have the best squad in the championship, quite possibly our best squad ever assembled and keep getting laughed at and ridaculed. Don't you just hate glory hunters who know little more than to think it's just little old Watford having a short spell of good fortune.
I can't see how they won't feature at some point against Palace! Most of them are playing in a similar time zone and only have a few hours plane journey! Not being funny but how long is it to Newcastle in a bus? Exactly. It's good that Nos and Sean played 90 mins as they needed it! And Vydra, Chaloboah, Hoban played enough mins for no bad effects for Friday night! I expect the following line up vs Palace; Alumina Ekstrand Hall Doyley Chaloboah Abdi Pudil Cassetti Bottacchio Vydra Deeney Subs: Bond, Nosworthy, Yeates or Murray, Geijo, Forrestieri, Eustace, Hoban or Muji Bai Quite honestly that must be the best side in the Championship from 1 to 18!
Can't wait for the day Claridge or anyone on the Football league show, or even in the media gives us some praise also!
Travelling Hornet
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12:11pm Thu 7 Feb 13
I've been to Mexico City And to play a football match at that altitude without acclimatisation is super human.
I was knackererd walking up a flight of stairs!
Nos should come back fitter .
Boosey
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12:19pm Thu 7 Feb 13
DuffmanWFC wrote:Looking at the minutes played by each player I would say Watford had spoken to the international sides regarding Friday night, Totally agree with above selection
I can't see how they won't feature at some point against Palace! Most of them are playing in a similar time zone and only have a few hours plane journey! Not being funny but how long is it to Newcastle in a bus? Exactly. It's good that Nos and Sean played 90 mins as they needed it! And Vydra, Chaloboah, Hoban played enough mins for no bad effects for Friday night! I expect the following line up vs Palace; Alumina Ekstrand Hall Doyley Chaloboah Abdi Pudil Cassetti Bottacchio Vydra Deeney Subs: Bond, Nosworthy, Yeates or Murray, Geijo, Forrestieri, Eustace, Hoban or Muji Bai Quite honestly that must be the best side in the Championship from 1 to 18!
Boosey
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12:21pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Bush Hornet wrote:England played well last night.
the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.
Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
lutondown
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12:28pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)
Bush Hornet wrote:England played well last night.
the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.
Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Goldenboy1960
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12:40pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey
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12:40pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Boosey
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12:46pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Goldenboy1960 wrote:Agreed, see you get annoyed with some posts as well!
Tiredness is only in the head of the Coach. Vydra will not be tired when he is scoring goals. It's called psychology. Play him 90 mins then he can have 8 days rest for God's sake.
If I was Vydra I wouldn't want to be dropped. He must have a target of 30+ goals with the season he's having and he can't score from the bench. He will start.
Harry's Bar
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12:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:If Duffman's team plays maybe 3-1. If Hogg, Eustace & Murray play...god help us!
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
lutondown
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12:59pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Almunia to save a penalty
lutondown
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1:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Totally agree with this, all the post game treatment these lads get, should have them all in tip top form.
Goldenboy1960 wrote:Agreed, see you get annoyed with some posts as well!
Tiredness is only in the head of the Coach. Vydra will not be tired when he is scoring goals. It's called psychology. Play him 90 mins then he can have 8 days rest for God's sake.
If I was Vydra I wouldn't want to be dropped. He must have a target of 30+ goals with the season he's having and he can't score from the bench. He will start.
Vydras on fire, and will want to play but we do have very able back ups. We had some great wins when Fessi was partnering Deeney.
Cassetti, is the one we really miss when out, one of the finest players in the team, and must if been brilliant ten years ago.
exeterhornet
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1:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13
If we lose, so be it, but please not because you tinker with a winning side.
There is £120 million riding on promotion if you include the parachute money so no more squad rotation (or subs) until we are a couple of goals up. Palace are no mugs and are better able than both Charlton and Bristol City to penalise us for not paying them due respect. Still love you though GFZ (in the biblical sense of course.
lockerbiehornet
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1:12pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Ronny oh Ronny Ronny wrote:In 4 months time we won't have to deal with that tool Claridge anymore, it'll just be a case of getting used to being slated by Lineker and co!
DuffmanWFC wrote:Quite agree with you Duffers, I keep telling people I know that we have the best squad in the championship, quite possibly our best squad ever assembled and keep getting laughed at and ridaculed. Don't you just hate glory hunters who know little more than to think it's just little old Watford having a short spell of good fortune.
I can't see how they won't feature at some point against Palace! Most of them are playing in a similar time zone and only have a few hours plane journey! Not being funny but how long is it to Newcastle in a bus? Exactly. It's good that Nos and Sean played 90 mins as they needed it! And Vydra, Chaloboah, Hoban played enough mins for no bad effects for Friday night! I expect the following line up vs Palace; Alumina Ekstrand Hall Doyley Chaloboah Abdi Pudil Cassetti Bottacchio Vydra Deeney Subs: Bond, Nosworthy, Yeates or Murray, Geijo, Forrestieri, Eustace, Hoban or Muji Bai Quite honestly that must be the best side in the Championship from 1 to 18!
Can't wait for the day Claridge or anyone on the Football league show, or even in the media gives us some praise also!
miked2006
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1:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13
In other news, I might make a bet that there will be a penalty. I have never seen so many penalties against one team as I have seen against us this season.
Eastsussexhornet
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1:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13
exeterhornet wrote:Apart from the slightly disturbing last sentence, I agree with every word. Tired or not, it is a better risk to take than putting out the second string again. However, I have a feeling that that little incident won't happen again.
Please,please,please Mr Zola, the strongest team must at least start against Palace. With the exception of Nosworthy and Ekstrand (if still injured) all the others should be fit enough to play their nuts off - eight days to Brum so plenty of recovery/physio time.
If we lose, so be it, but please not because you tinker with a winning side.
There is £120 million riding on promotion if you include the parachute money so no more squad rotation (or subs) until we are a couple of goals up. Palace are no mugs and are better able than both Charlton and Bristol City to penalise us for not paying them due respect. Still love you though GFZ (in the biblical sense of course.
Bush Hornet
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1:17pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Hey Boosey I think Joe Hart guessed well for that penalty eh?
Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Almunia to save a penalty
Boosey
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1:21pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Cassetti or Beckham same age.
Boosey wrote:Totally agree with this, all the post game treatment these lads get, should have them all in tip top form. Vydras on fire, and will want to play but we do have very able back ups. We had some great wins when Fessi was partnering Deeney. Cassetti, is the one we really miss when out, one of the finest players in the team, and must if been brilliant ten years ago.Goldenboy1960 wrote: Tiredness is only in the head of the Coach. Vydra will not be tired when he is scoring goals. It's called psychology. Play him 90 mins then he can have 8 days rest for God's sake.Agreed, see you get annoyed with some posts as well! If I was Vydra I wouldn't want to be dropped. He must have a target of 30+ goals with the season he's having and he can't score from the bench. He will start.
Beckham has been brilliant promoting himself and played at the highest level. He has just signed for another top team and although honourable by donating his wages to charity, he has once again put himself in the limelight and not for football reasons.
Cassetti on the other hand has joined a Championship side which I believe is a bigger challenge, he has met the challenge and playing week in week out.
Beckham should have done exactly the same and if he had, would have helped the club financially by putting bums on seats and proved to one and all that he really is world class.
So on that theory, Cassetti is a better player.
lutondown
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1:22pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Bush Hornet wrote:Moving on, we could of conceded another penalty almost immediately after the save, as that ever happened before?
lutondown wrote:Hey Boosey I think Joe Hart guessed well for that penalty eh?
Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Almunia to save a penalty
Good win for England, and pleased they did, but it's not the same as Watford winning is it?
lutondown
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1:23pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Meant has not as before the grammar police handcuff me
Bush Hornet wrote:Moving on, we could of conceded another penalty almost immediately after the save, as that ever happened before?
lutondown wrote:Hey Boosey I think Joe Hart guessed well for that penalty eh?
Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Almunia to save a penalty
Good win for England, and pleased they did, but it's not the same as Watford winning is it?
Boosey
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1:26pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Bush Hornet wrote:He studied saving penalties for his PHD in science!!
lutondown wrote:Hey Boosey I think Joe Hart guessed well for that penalty eh?Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns Almunia to save a penaltylutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Boosey
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1:28pm Thu 7 Feb 13
exeterhornet wrote:Parachute money? We won't be needing that.
Please,please,please Mr Zola, the strongest team must at least start against Palace. With the exception of Nosworthy and Ekstrand (if still injured) all the others should be fit enough to play their nuts off - eight days to Brum so plenty of recovery/physio time. If we lose, so be it, but please not because you tinker with a winning side. There is £120 million riding on promotion if you include the parachute money so no more squad rotation (or subs) until we are a couple of goals up. Palace are no mugs and are better able than both Charlton and Bristol City to penalise us for not paying them due respect. Still love you though GFZ (in the biblical sense of course.
Bush Hornet
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1:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Watford winning ALWAYS means more to me than an England win.
lutondown wrote:Meant has not as before the grammar police handcuff me
Bush Hornet wrote:Moving on, we could of conceded another penalty almost immediately after the save, as that ever happened before?
lutondown wrote:Hey Boosey I think Joe Hart guessed well for that penalty eh?
Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Almunia to save a penalty
Good win for England, and pleased they did, but it's not the same as Watford winning is it?
Although if I ever live to see England win a world cup or even a European cup then it will be oh so special
mimiperena
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1:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Bush Hornet
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1:34pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:agree. Parachute payments? PAH!
exeterhornet wrote:Parachute money? We won't be needing that.
Please,please,please Mr Zola, the strongest team must at least start against Palace. With the exception of Nosworthy and Ekstrand (if still injured) all the others should be fit enough to play their nuts off - eight days to Brum so plenty of recovery/physio time. If we lose, so be it, but please not because you tinker with a winning side. There is £120 million riding on promotion if you include the parachute money so no more squad rotation (or subs) until we are a couple of goals up. Palace are no mugs and are better able than both Charlton and Bristol City to penalise us for not paying them due respect. Still love you though GFZ (in the biblical sense of course.
mimiperena
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1:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey
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1:36pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters!
Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.
Harry's Bar
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1:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet wrote:I hope not ESH. After Bristol you were incandescent with rage, if it happens again I dare not think what vitriol will be posted. Gianfranco keep your head down!
exeterhornet wrote: Please,please,please Mr Zola, the strongest team must at least start against Palace. With the exception of Nosworthy and Ekstrand (if still injured) all the others should be fit enough to play their nuts off - eight days to Brum so plenty of recovery/physio time. If we lose, so be it, but please not because you tinker with a winning side. There is £120 million riding on promotion if you include the parachute money so no more squad rotation (or subs) until we are a couple of goals up. Palace are no mugs and are better able than both Charlton and Bristol City to penalise us for not paying them due respect. Still love you though GFZ (in the biblical sense of course.Apart from the slightly disturbing last sentence, I agree with every word. Tired or not, it is a better risk to take than putting out the second string again. However, I have a feeling that that little incident won't happen again.
Boosey
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1:40pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown
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1:41pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Bush Hornet wrote:You mean Sweden you damned Svede! ;-)
lutondown wrote:Watford winning ALWAYS means more to me than an England win.
lutondown wrote:Meant has not as before the grammar police handcuff me
Bush Hornet wrote:Moving on, we could of conceded another penalty almost immediately after the save, as that ever happened before?
lutondown wrote:Hey Boosey I think Joe Hart guessed well for that penalty eh?
Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Almunia to save a penalty
Good win for England, and pleased they did, but it's not the same as Watford winning is it?
Although if I ever live to see England win a world cup or even a European cup then it will be oh so special
lutondown
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1:42pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Zola out, Dyche in
Eastsussexhornet wrote:I hope not ESH. After Bristol you were incandescent with rage, if it happens again I dare not think what vitriol will be posted. Gianfranco keep your head down!
exeterhornet wrote: Please,please,please Mr Zola, the strongest team must at least start against Palace. With the exception of Nosworthy and Ekstrand (if still injured) all the others should be fit enough to play their nuts off - eight days to Brum so plenty of recovery/physio time. If we lose, so be it, but please not because you tinker with a winning side. There is £120 million riding on promotion if you include the parachute money so no more squad rotation (or subs) until we are a couple of goals up. Palace are no mugs and are better able than both Charlton and Bristol City to penalise us for not paying them due respect. Still love you though GFZ (in the biblical sense of course.Apart from the slightly disturbing last sentence, I agree with every word. Tired or not, it is a better risk to take than putting out the second string again. However, I have a feeling that that little incident won't happen again.
Pozzo out, Bas back
I miss hoofball
mimiperena
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1:43pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Am I going completely mad or is this another championship manager who does not understand season long foreign loans dont count as "loans" ??????
lutondown
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1:45pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Our away support is brilliant vocally, and we even seem to have more normal looking people on our travels! Be good if we took it into the Vic and it's why we need an unreserved seat area, and people to back their team.
A challenge to the Rookery.
Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters!
Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.
Harry's Bar
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1:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13
mimiperena wrote:Probably got told that by Steve Claridge.
"It must be difficult for Gianfranco Zola because you can only play five loans in one game," Holloway told Advertiser Sport. Am I going completely mad or is this another championship manager who does not understand season long foreign loans dont count as "loans" ??????
Boosey
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1:54pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Yes agree but as a previous post once stated, we want to sing but feel uncomfortable to do so at home matches, some people frown upon it, maybe it's the ones who were misplaced when the East stand shut down. So as we have agreed before definately need an unreserved section for the supporters who want to sing.
Boosey wrote: A challenge to the Rookery. Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters! Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.Our away support is brilliant vocally, and we even seem to have more normal looking people on our travels! Be good if we took it into the Vic and it's why we need an unreserved seat area, and people to back their team.
Boosey
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1:59pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown
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2:03pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:I'm pretty well anaesthetised so couldn't care less what people think.
lutondown wrote:Yes agree but as a previous post once stated, we want to sing but feel uncomfortable to do so at home matches, some people frown upon it, maybe it's the ones who were misplaced when the East stand shut down. So as we have agreed before definately need an unreserved section for the supporters who want to sing.
Boosey wrote: A challenge to the Rookery. Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters! Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.Our away support is brilliant vocally, and we even seem to have more normal looking people on our travels! Be good if we took it into the Vic and it's why we need an unreserved seat area, and people to back their team.
People want silence? Go to a library or the Upper Rous...but don't wake Cliff up, he's getting on you know!
Harry's Bar
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2:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Everyone seems to be agreed on this -
lutondown wrote:Yes agree but as a previous post once stated, we want to sing but feel uncomfortable to do so at home matches, some people frown upon it, maybe it's the ones who were misplaced when the East stand shut down. So as we have agreed before definately need an unreserved section for the supporters who want to sing.Boosey wrote: A challenge to the Rookery. Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters! Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.Our away support is brilliant vocally, and we even seem to have more normal looking people on our travels! Be good if we took it into the Vic and it's why we need an unreserved seat area, and people to back their team.
1) Move the home supporters back to the Vicarage Road end.
2) Introduce unreserved seating behind the goal.
3) Move the families to the lower Rous.
4) Have a cash turnstile on the day.
JohnnyHornet
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2:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Travelling Hornet wrote:Or totally rubber ducked.
I must say that Jamaica holding Mexico 0-0 at the Axtec Stadium is a great result.
I've been to Mexico City And to play a football match at that altitude without acclimatisation is super human.
I was knackererd walking up a flight of stairs!
Nos should come back fitter .
lutondown
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2:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:The problem is the moving people from their favourite seats.
Boosey wrote:Everyone seems to be agreed on this -
lutondown wrote:Yes agree but as a previous post once stated, we want to sing but feel uncomfortable to do so at home matches, some people frown upon it, maybe it's the ones who were misplaced when the East stand shut down. So as we have agreed before definately need an unreserved section for the supporters who want to sing.Boosey wrote: A challenge to the Rookery. Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters! Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.Our away support is brilliant vocally, and we even seem to have more normal looking people on our travels! Be good if we took it into the Vic and it's why we need an unreserved seat area, and people to back their team.
1) Move the home supporters back to the Vicarage Road end.
2) Introduce unreserved seating behind the goal.
3) Move the families to the lower Rous.
4) Have a cash turnstile on the day.
A solution that's been mooted, is open the newer part of old East Stand ( yes it's safe to do so) stick the away fans in there ( increase banter with home fans in Rookery) open up away part as unreserved with a cash turnstile.
This way no one has to move, the away fans are away from the families, and hundreds of casual supporters can pay as they go, rather than just not go at all because of the hassle involved getting tickets.
This btw not my idea, but one I fully support
mk6 hornet
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2:24pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Agreed but that song they sing that goes folllow follow follow follow Blah blah blah,palace palace na na na na na na na na na is awful so lets try and drown that out it is cringe worthy
A challenge to the Rookery.
Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters!
Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.
endean2
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2:34pm Thu 7 Feb 13
or some similar permuation
it really is embarrasing to be out shouted at every home game by a small group of away fans.
Bush Hornet
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3:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:yes of course, thanks for reminding me of my roots. Must get back in the Saab and listen to Abba
Bush Hornet wrote:You mean Sweden you damned Svede! ;-)
lutondown wrote:Watford winning ALWAYS means more to me than an England win.
lutondown wrote:Meant has not as before the grammar police handcuff me
Bush Hornet wrote:Moving on, we could of conceded another penalty almost immediately after the save, as that ever happened before?
lutondown wrote:Hey Boosey I think Joe Hart guessed well for that penalty eh?
Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Almunia to save a penalty
Good win for England, and pleased they did, but it's not the same as Watford winning is it?
Although if I ever live to see England win a world cup or even a European cup then it will be oh so special
lutondown
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3:05pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Bush Hornet wrote:Fair play Hagar!
lutondown wrote:yes of course, thanks for reminding me of my roots. Must get back in the Saab and listen to Abba
Bush Hornet wrote:You mean Sweden you damned Svede! ;-)
lutondown wrote:Watford winning ALWAYS means more to me than an England win.
lutondown wrote:Meant has not as before the grammar police handcuff me
Bush Hornet wrote:Moving on, we could of conceded another penalty almost immediately after the save, as that ever happened before?
lutondown wrote:Hey Boosey I think Joe Hart guessed well for that penalty eh?
Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Almunia to save a penalty
Good win for England, and pleased they did, but it's not the same as Watford winning is it?
Although if I ever live to see England win a world cup or even a European cup then it will be oh so special
Off for a bit of pillaging later?
PeteBogHorrorHornet
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3:13pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown
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3:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:Yep good news Pete
Just heard from my contact on Czechoslovakia that, even though je didn't score, Matty played really well last night. He was flown back to the UK on a private jet (paid for by Watford)straight after the game and joined by Tomas Rosicky from Arsenal. He should have been back in the UK early today so should be well rested to start the game tomorrow. Great news eh?
Bush Hornet
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3:28pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:LOL
Bush Hornet wrote:Fair play Hagar!
lutondown wrote:yes of course, thanks for reminding me of my roots. Must get back in the Saab and listen to Abba
Bush Hornet wrote:You mean Sweden you damned Svede! ;-)
lutondown wrote:Watford winning ALWAYS means more to me than an England win.
lutondown wrote:Meant has not as before the grammar police handcuff me
Bush Hornet wrote:Moving on, we could of conceded another penalty almost immediately after the save, as that ever happened before?
lutondown wrote:Hey Boosey I think Joe Hart guessed well for that penalty eh?
Boosey wrote:Hands up, feet still! 3-0 to the Horns
lutondown wrote:If I am ever wrong in anything I will hold my hand up(Pun intended) always have done, always will but I am right on this one. Case closed. Now for Friday evening, score? Don't know, anyone?
Boosey wrote:You're getting a bit obsessive over this standing still business Boosey. You was standing still when I threw that beer in your direction. You went the wrong way. I rest my case! ;-)Bush Hornet wrote: the starting 11 against Palace should be strong. Will always be happy to see Forestieri and Geijo make an appearance but ideally from the bench once we're 2-0 up.England played well last night. Joe Hart my type of keeper! I rest my case.
Almunia to save a penalty
Good win for England, and pleased they did, but it's not the same as Watford winning is it?
Although if I ever live to see England win a world cup or even a European cup then it will be oh so special
Off for a bit of pillaging later?
exeterhornet
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3:32pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Enrean 2, please check your emails re Brum
Boosey
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3:34pm Thu 7 Feb 13
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:Hope Rosicky chipped in with the cost.
Just heard from my contact on Czechoslovakia that, even though je didn't score, Matty played really well last night. He was flown back to the UK on a private jet (paid for by Watford)straight after the game and joined by Tomas Rosicky from Arsenal. He should have been back in the UK early today so should be well rested to start the game tomorrow. Great news eh?
If baz was still in charge there would be no way Matty would be fit for Friday, he would still be on the pedalo.
StuWFC
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3:55pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Ronny oh Ronny Ronny wrote:From my experience it's only people who support the smaller teams bar cardiff who really recognise how good we really are. If we get into the PL I really hope we just demolish City and everyone would be singing out praises lmao
DuffmanWFC wrote:Quite agree with you Duffers, I keep telling people I know that we have the best squad in the championship, quite possibly our best squad ever assembled and keep getting laughed at and ridaculed. Don't you just hate glory hunters who know little more than to think it's just little old Watford having a short spell of good fortune.
I can't see how they won't feature at some point against Palace! Most of them are playing in a similar time zone and only have a few hours plane journey! Not being funny but how long is it to Newcastle in a bus? Exactly. It's good that Nos and Sean played 90 mins as they needed it! And Vydra, Chaloboah, Hoban played enough mins for no bad effects for Friday night! I expect the following line up vs Palace; Alumina Ekstrand Hall Doyley Chaloboah Abdi Pudil Cassetti Bottacchio Vydra Deeney Subs: Bond, Nosworthy, Yeates or Murray, Geijo, Forrestieri, Eustace, Hoban or Muji Bai Quite honestly that must be the best side in the Championship from 1 to 18!
Can't wait for the day Claridge or anyone on the Football league show, or even in the media gives us some praise also!
Eastsussexhornet
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5:29pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:The East Stand can be opened but it will cost at least £ 200k to do. It is more cost effective to demolish the whole lot and erect a temporary stand like Blackpool - next to no capital cost and can be hired. However, before that, the SW corner needs to faciltate the new changing rooms.
Harry's Bar wrote:The problem is the moving people from their favourite seats.
Boosey wrote:Everyone seems to be agreed on this -
lutondown wrote:Yes agree but as a previous post once stated, we want to sing but feel uncomfortable to do so at home matches, some people frown upon it, maybe it's the ones who were misplaced when the East stand shut down. So as we have agreed before definately need an unreserved section for the supporters who want to sing.Boosey wrote: A challenge to the Rookery. Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters! Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.Our away support is brilliant vocally, and we even seem to have more normal looking people on our travels! Be good if we took it into the Vic and it's why we need an unreserved seat area, and people to back their team.
1) Move the home supporters back to the Vicarage Road end.
2) Introduce unreserved seating behind the goal.
3) Move the families to the lower Rous.
4) Have a cash turnstile on the day.
A solution that's been mooted, is open the newer part of old East Stand ( yes it's safe to do so) stick the away fans in there ( increase banter with home fans in Rookery) open up away part as unreserved with a cash turnstile.
This way no one has to move, the away fans are away from the families, and hundreds of casual supporters can pay as they go, rather than just not go at all because of the hassle involved getting tickets.
This btw not my idea, but one I fully support
Opening up the existing East Stand is just throwing money away. Better to spend money on something that creates an asset (ie, the SW corner) but that will, of course, be upwards of £ 1 million. Why they have not already done that I don't know although I suspect that the Pozzos are very careful businessmen and they need to see the demand for more seats increasing.
lutondown
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5:33pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet wrote:Ok so how you come to them figures?
lutondown wrote:The East Stand can be opened but it will cost at least £ 200k to do. It is more cost effective to demolish the whole lot and erect a temporary stand like Blackpool - next to no capital cost and can be hired. However, before that, the SW corner needs to faciltate the new changing rooms.
Harry's Bar wrote:The problem is the moving people from their favourite seats.
Boosey wrote:Everyone seems to be agreed on this -
lutondown wrote:Yes agree but as a previous post once stated, we want to sing but feel uncomfortable to do so at home matches, some people frown upon it, maybe it's the ones who were misplaced when the East stand shut down. So as we have agreed before definately need an unreserved section for the supporters who want to sing.Boosey wrote: A challenge to the Rookery. Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters! Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.Our away support is brilliant vocally, and we even seem to have more normal looking people on our travels! Be good if we took it into the Vic and it's why we need an unreserved seat area, and people to back their team.
1) Move the home supporters back to the Vicarage Road end.
2) Introduce unreserved seating behind the goal.
3) Move the families to the lower Rous.
4) Have a cash turnstile on the day.
A solution that's been mooted, is open the newer part of old East Stand ( yes it's safe to do so) stick the away fans in there ( increase banter with home fans in Rookery) open up away part as unreserved with a cash turnstile.
This way no one has to move, the away fans are away from the families, and hundreds of casual supporters can pay as they go, rather than just not go at all because of the hassle involved getting tickets.
This btw not my idea, but one I fully support
Opening up the existing East Stand is just throwing money away. Better to spend money on something that creates an asset (ie, the SW corner) but that will, of course, be upwards of £ 1 million. Why they have not already done that I don't know although I suspect that the Pozzos are very careful businessmen and they need to see the demand for more seats increasing.
And the reason the SW corner hasn't been complete Is because of dual ownership with hospital and two parties have to agree.
15000 regulars or the prem, the East stand goes up. Temp stand? How much cheaper than your 200k figure for Eaststand then?
Boosey
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5:44pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown
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7:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:On that I fully agree. We want to be proud of our house, we don't want the snide BBC. Camera shots at our derelict stand and the constant referrals to our three sided ground,
Speculate to accumulate, just build the stand now!
As that ghost said to Costner 'build it and they will come'
all aboard the happy bus.
Eastsussexhornet
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7:51pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:I know because I have costed it out in detail. It is my profession. There are enormous H&S and structural issues compounded by changing legislation even since it was cordoned off. And whilst 200k is probably a max, it is well over 100k. Sorry, can't say more than that.
Eastsussexhornet wrote:Ok so how you come to them figures?
lutondown wrote:The East Stand can be opened but it will cost at least £ 200k to do. It is more cost effective to demolish the whole lot and erect a temporary stand like Blackpool - next to no capital cost and can be hired. However, before that, the SW corner needs to faciltate the new changing rooms.
Harry's Bar wrote:The problem is the moving people from their favourite seats.
Boosey wrote:Everyone seems to be agreed on this -
lutondown wrote:Yes agree but as a previous post once stated, we want to sing but feel uncomfortable to do so at home matches, some people frown upon it, maybe it's the ones who were misplaced when the East stand shut down. So as we have agreed before definately need an unreserved section for the supporters who want to sing.Boosey wrote: A challenge to the Rookery. Friday evening sing louder and longer than the Crystal Palace supporters! Hats off to them, last season they were the best away supporters vocally.Our away support is brilliant vocally, and we even seem to have more normal looking people on our travels! Be good if we took it into the Vic and it's why we need an unreserved seat area, and people to back their team.
1) Move the home supporters back to the Vicarage Road end.
2) Introduce unreserved seating behind the goal.
3) Move the families to the lower Rous.
4) Have a cash turnstile on the day.
A solution that's been mooted, is open the newer part of old East Stand ( yes it's safe to do so) stick the away fans in there ( increase banter with home fans in Rookery) open up away part as unreserved with a cash turnstile.
This way no one has to move, the away fans are away from the families, and hundreds of casual supporters can pay as they go, rather than just not go at all because of the hassle involved getting tickets.
This btw not my idea, but one I fully support
Opening up the existing East Stand is just throwing money away. Better to spend money on something that creates an asset (ie, the SW corner) but that will, of course, be upwards of £ 1 million. Why they have not already done that I don't know although I suspect that the Pozzos are very careful businessmen and they need to see the demand for more seats increasing.
And the reason the SW corner hasn't been complete Is because of dual ownership with hospital and two parties have to agree.
15000 regulars or the prem, the East stand goes up. Temp stand? How much cheaper than your 200k figure for Eaststand then?
Yes, the dual ownership is another problem but not a critical one.
The cost of the demolition would be about 200-250k but it would be part of the process towards the final goal, that being the new stand. Therefore it is not "wasted" money. Bringing the existing stand back into operation WOULD be wasted money albeit with a cash flow advantage.
The cost of the temporary stand would be about the same for 2 years (250k) in hire costs, therefore less if it was taken down in a year. So, this has the advantages of not having to spend a big chunk of money straight away and the flexibility of being able to take it down when needed.
But of course, all this depends on the fitting out of the SW corner. A much bigger expense but again, part of the process therefore not wasted. And there is the business decision.
Eastsussexhornet
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7:55pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:I can't disagree with that but it is refreshing that someone rich has taken us over and running us like a business and not a trophy. That really is something to be proud of. My heart wants the stand tomorrow but my brain says that it must be part of a sustainable business model.
Boosey wrote:On that I fully agree. We want to be proud of our house, we don't want the snide BBC. Camera shots at our derelict stand and the constant referrals to our three sided ground,
Speculate to accumulate, just build the stand now!
As that ghost said to Costner 'build it and they will come'
all aboard the happy bus.
lutondown
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8:00pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet wrote:Listen to the heart because your heads a little off centre buddy...
lutondown wrote:I can't disagree with that but it is refreshing that someone rich has taken us over and running us like a business and not a trophy. That really is something to be proud of. My heart wants the stand tomorrow but my brain says that it must be part of a sustainable business model.
Boosey wrote:On that I fully agree. We want to be proud of our house, we don't want the snide BBC. Camera shots at our derelict stand and the constant referrals to our three sided ground,
Speculate to accumulate, just build the stand now!
As that ghost said to Costner 'build it and they will come'
all aboard the happy bus.
Eastsussexhornet
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10:58pm Thu 7 Feb 13
lutondown wrote:Now tell me, have you got a chip on your shoulder about something? !!! Just a hunch.
Eastsussexhornet wrote:Listen to the heart because your heads a little off centre buddy...
lutondown wrote:I can't disagree with that but it is refreshing that someone rich has taken us over and running us like a business and not a trophy. That really is something to be proud of. My heart wants the stand tomorrow but my brain says that it must be part of a sustainable business model.
Boosey wrote:On that I fully agree. We want to be proud of our house, we don't want the snide BBC. Camera shots at our derelict stand and the constant referrals to our three sided ground,
Speculate to accumulate, just build the stand now!
As that ghost said to Costner 'build it and they will come'
all aboard the happy bus.
Harry's Bar
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12:32pm Fri 8 Feb 13
I am guessing the scaffolding couldn't take it.
Eastsussexhornet
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1:30pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:I haven't considered that but it may be possible. I would have to look at it again but the temporary stand would, I think, have to be located to the north of the dressing rooms, not right on top of them, otherwise there will be more cost in beefing up the structure underneath. It would have to be quite a small stand, about 1 500 seats probably (for the away supporters?).
East Sussex, leaving aside your contretemps with L*t*n down, would it be possible to build a temporary stand above the current dressing rooms?
I am guessing the scaffolding couldn't take it.
The demolition cost would be a bit higher, 1. because it would be done in two stages and 2. due to the extra cost of careful removal of the structure adjacent to the changing rooms.
But it would still avoid the "wasted" expenditure referred to in my previous post and it may have other advantages such as facilitating an early start to the main construction work as half the demolition would have already been done.
So, good idea. I will think about that a bit more.
Harry's Bar
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2:33pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet
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2:50pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:The cost and the planning will depend on whether it is a total football project or combined with something else such as residential, retail, etc.
The other question is how long would it take to build a permanent structure and is planning permission in place?. Sorry, that's two questions.
Planners would favour either total football or something commensurate with the Health Campus initiative like a health centre. With residential and retails, access and noise, etc, become issues. Putting a stand there wouldn't be a problem per se as there was one there before and they knocked it down - and it is a football stadium (!), etc, but as soon as you introduce other things, you run into potential problems. As long as it isn't taller than the old stand, I don't envisage a problem especially as the lie of the land is on their side in this respect. So "outline planning" is effectively in place but detailed planning will have to wait for the design.
The cost could be anything from £ 10-20 million depending on what it is, capacity, height, shape, length, facilities, and whether the NE corner is brought into the scope - improved turnstiles, dual access to the Vicarage Road and the new stand, additional food and beverage, etc.
Harry's Bar
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3:43pm Fri 8 Feb 13
sueinspain
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4:03pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Boosey wrote:Would Matej have been flown home by the club if they did not intend to play him from the start?¿!
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:Hope Rosicky chipped in with the cost.
Just heard from my contact on Czechoslovakia that, even though je didn't score, Matty played really well last night. He was flown back to the UK on a private jet (paid for by Watford)straight after the game and joined by Tomas Rosicky from Arsenal. He should have been back in the UK early today so should be well rested to start the game tomorrow. Great news eh?
If baz was still in charge there would be no way Matty would be fit for Friday, he would still be on the pedalo.
Eastsussexhornet
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4:17pm Fri 8 Feb 13
Harry's Bar wrote:Well, I would have thought that is must be a temporary stand and if you are right in what I think you were suggesting, ie, that the SW corner could be taken out of the equation, then a small stand near the Vicarage road end could work.
Interesting stuff, thanks. All this could really come into sharp focus come May. Hope the club has some sort of contingency plan worked out.
That would increase the attendance to about 19 000. May not seem a lot but remember, last time we were in the PL, we often only got 18-19 000. Some matches were sell-outs and reached the capacity of 20 000 and could have gone higher if the stadium was bigger but they have to plan to the optimum levels, not for the one-off games.
Harry's Bar
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1:50pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Eastsussexhornet wrote:I don't feel qualified to suggest anything. I know we can't go into the Premier League with a 3 sided ground. We'd be a laughing stock!
Harry's Bar wrote: Interesting stuff, thanks. All this could really come into sharp focus come May. Hope the club has some sort of contingency plan worked out.Well, I would have thought that is must be a temporary stand and if you are right in what I think you were suggesting, ie, that the SW corner could be taken out of the equation, then a small stand near the Vicarage road end could work. That would increase the attendance to about 19 000. May not seem a lot but remember, last time we were in the PL, we often only got 18-19 000. Some matches were sell-outs and reached the capacity of 20 000 and could have gone higher if the stadium was bigger but they have to plan to the optimum levels, not for the one-off games.
llloydwithathirdl says...
11:16am Thu 7 Feb 13