Injury time goal costs Watford again (From This Is Local London)

silver streak wrote:
so fed up spelt name wrong dyche

pete50 wrote:
Geijo will get 20 if Zola plays him!

WessexLad wrote:
After being under the cosh in the first half, Watford got on top in the second. When Blackburn missed the penalty, that was the time to bring on Geijo and Vydra.

If Zola wishes to rotate the forwards, as Jon Marks suggested, it should be Forestieri and Yeats, two players in the same mould, rather than Vydra.

bushey tales wrote:
Lutondown demands a Negative Nelly response so what can I do other than dutifully come running at the master's command? But there's absolutely nothing to worry about because if you recall, it was barely two months ago I was deemed an ignorant, doomsaying muppet for having the temerity to suggest that the Pozzo SuperEuro Mercenary Horns might just struggle to match the 64-point total racked up by the 2011/12 Dychey British Belt 'n Braces RagBag XI. And this before, as Zola now tells us, he slashes the squad to a more manageable 25 in January, to help balance the books. In the great scheme of things losing at Cardiff and Blackburn is neither here nor there, but as to the success of the Pozzo business template, I'm sorry but I remain to be convinced. However I suggest all believers carry on clapping while covering their eyes and ears, pausing only to listen very carefully to the charming Mr Duxbury at the Fan's Forum this week. Assuming of course no mysterious chest infections hit the club in the meantime.

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Dear Bushey Tales just to confirm that under the old regime this is what our starting XI would look like upto Deeney's release from prison: Loach, Doyley, Bennett, Nosworthy, Dickinson, Yeates, Jenkins, Smith, Hogg, Garner and Iwelumo! Dyche would of been forced to sell Tiny, Mariappa,and Murray due to financial restraints, and he would of had no money to replace due to Bassini's lack of cash! The injured players would still of been injured!
This side would have had less then HALF our current tally of points so for me I applaud the Pozzo's for saving us and giving us a better team!
This side can only get better and come the new year upto May we will be very strong!

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Not being funny Bushey Takes but Dyche's Rag Tag side of last season wouldn't of got 64 points this season in this league!

hornet88 wrote:
We've barely started the season and people are worried about where the goals are going to come from? Vydra already has 5 and will easily get 20 and deeney will be competing for his place. Geijo is just returning to fitness and little messi will get more clinical. Watch and see....we'll be in the top 6 by Christmas. As for people slating cassetti... I think he does more than people see and his experience (and ability to speak Italian) will be useful... I don't see how putting Murray in his position will improve our defence. Sure play Murray instead of yeates and send yeates to Cardiff. He'll fit in well with greedy pie. I barely ever comment so when I do I tend to rant. Sorry...rant over

Hornet1970 wrote:
for me the real mistake by the possos is the fact they sacked dyche, should of kept him and slotted zola in to work alongside him if thats what they wanted.

Dyche would be awesome with this squad at his disposal

Hornet1970 wrote:
for me the real mistake by the possos is the fact they sacked dyche, should of kept him and slotted zola in to work alongside him if thats what they wanted.

Dyche would be awesome with this squad at his disposal

Hampshire hornet wrote:

Hornet1970 wrote:
for me the real mistake by the possos is the fact they sacked dyche, should of kept him and slotted zola in to work alongside him if thats what they wanted.

Dyche would be awesome with this squad at his disposal

Bit of a time lag on this one? Almost 7months lost in cyberspace?
Keep it for April 2013

bushey tales wrote:
Well that's exactly what this forum is meant to encourage. I think you're wildly mistaken but I absolutely respect your opinion and your right to express it. One fact though - don't associate Zola with the Pozzo's. Zola was the figurehead delivered by Nani and Duxbury when they pitched their business idea to the Pozzo's. If it doesn't work, however 'working' is defined, make no mistake that these two will hang Zola out to dry. Like I said, listen carefully to the Fan's Forum this week and then read between the lines.

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Dear Bushey Tales just to confirm that under the old regime this is what our starting XI would look like upto Deeney's release from prison: Loach, Doyley, Bennett, Nosworthy, Dickinson, Yeates, Jenkins, Smith, Hogg, Garner and Iwelumo! Dyche would of been forced to sell Tiny, Mariappa,and Murray due to financial restraints, and he would of had no money to replace due to Bassini's lack of cash! The injured players would still of been injured!
This side would have had less then HALF our current tally of points so for me I applaud the Pozzo's for saving us and giving us a better team!
This side can only get better and come the new year upto May we will be very strong!

Hornet1970 wrote:
for me the real mistake by the possos is the fact they sacked dyche, should of kept him and slotted zola in to work alongside him if thats what they wanted.

Dyche would be awesome with this squad at his disposal

lutondown wrote:

Hornet1970 wrote:
for me the real mistake by the possos is the fact they sacked dyche, should of kept him and slotted zola in to work alongside him if thats what they wanted.

Dyche would be awesome with this squad at his disposal

Get real.he wouldn't know what to do with them and as for formations....

There was only one Scully wrote:

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Dear Bushey Tales just to confirm that under the old regime this is what our starting XI would look like upto Deeney's release from prison: Loach, Doyley, Bennett, Nosworthy, Dickinson, Yeates, Jenkins, Smith, Hogg, Garner and Iwelumo! Dyche would of been forced to sell Tiny, Mariappa,and Murray due to financial restraints, and he would of had no money to replace due to Bassini's lack of cash! The injured players would still of been injured!
This side would have had less then HALF our current tally of points so for me I applaud the Pozzo's for saving us and giving us a better team!
This side can only get better and come the new year upto May we will be very strong!

No, SD would have got us a lot more with this team of players, given the chance.
GFZ has not yet convinced me that he is any better.
Why oh why do you idiots keep going on about baz?

He is long gone and history so, why the blame and excuses 4 all that is not right at the moment.
Stop happy clapping the so called pozzo project factor and look at reality that, we are simply not good enough at the moment and I do not see any thing so far that is any better than what we had last season.
This division is the weakest I have seen 4 many a season and any 1 of 40+ could reach the holy grail. My opinion is, we will not be one of those!

bushey tales wrote:
Lutondown (the Headmaster) merely asked for a response from those of a less-than-fully-pers

uaded persuasion, if that makes sense. So I obliged. Maybe you're all correct, we'll make the play-offs and this season's vast squad will all return next August. Maybe I'm right, the sums won't add up, we'll finish with less than 64 points despite sky-high costs and you'll all be learning another 16+ unpronouncable names that nobody's ever heard before, next summer. Whatever, my understanding is that this was intended to be a discussion forum where people exchanged differing views and opinions in a mannered and constructive fashion - there being two sides to most debates. But then Lutondown (who, to be fair, is capable of being funny when he chooses) and his disciples (who generally aren't) logged-in. Carry on.

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Looking at the Pozzo model I can see Vydra, Abdi, Ekstrand, Neuton, Pudil and Forestieri coming back next season. I can also see us signing Geijo on a permanent deal as he is out of contract at the end of the season IF he can get 15+ goals this season!
Cassetti, Anya, Belleck and Battochino won't be with us next year for sure!
Regards points we will be around 75 which is more then 64! Regards Zola he is Pozzo's man and will be given two seasons minimum!
I predict 5th place this season and play offs - then who knows? Whatever the outcome the above will return and a few players will be purchased for next season. This is only my opinion but its the way the Pozzo model works!

There was only one Scully wrote:

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Dear Bushey Tales just to confirm that under the old regime this is what our starting XI would look like upto Deeney's release from prison: Loach, Doyley, Bennett, Nosworthy, Dickinson, Yeates, Jenkins, Smith, Hogg, Garner and Iwelumo! Dyche would of been forced to sell Tiny, Mariappa,and Murray due to financial restraints, and he would of had no money to replace due to Bassini's lack of cash! The injured players would still of been injured!
This side would have had less then HALF our current tally of points so for me I applaud the Pozzo's for saving us and giving us a better team!
This side can only get better and come the new year upto May we will be very strong!

No, SD would have got us a lot more with this team of players, given the chance.
GFZ has not yet convinced me that he is any better.
Why oh why do you idiots keep going on about baz?
He is long gone and history so, why the blame and excuses 4 all that is not right at the moment.
Stop happy clapping the so called pozzo project factor and look at reality that, we are simply not good enough at the moment and I do not see any thing so far that is any better than what we had last season.
This division is the weakest I have seen 4 many a season and any 1 of 40+ could reach the holy grail. My opinion is, we will not be one of those!

SAHornet wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Dear Bushey Tales just to confirm that under the old regime this is what our starting XI would look like upto Deeney's release from prison: Loach, Doyley, Bennett, Nosworthy, Dickinson, Yeates, Jenkins, Smith, Hogg, Garner and Iwelumo! Dyche would of been forced to sell Tiny, Mariappa,and Murray due to financial restraints, and he would of had no money to replace due to Bassini's lack of cash! The injured players would still of been injured!
This side would have had less then HALF our current tally of points so for me I applaud the Pozzo's for saving us and giving us a better team!
This side can only get better and come the new year upto May we will be very strong!

No, SD would have got us a lot more with this team of players, given the chance.
GFZ has not yet convinced me that he is any better.
Why oh why do you idiots keep going on about baz?
He is long gone and history so, why the blame and excuses 4 all that is not right at the moment.
Stop happy clapping the so called pozzo project factor and look at reality that, we are simply not good enough at the moment and I do not see any thing so far that is any better than what we had last season.
This division is the weakest I have seen 4 many a season and any 1 of 40+ could reach the holy grail. My opinion is, we will not be one of those!

I can barely believe your post, Scully old chap. You surely can't be serious that SD would have had a clue what to do with these players? Don't get me wrong, I was sorry to see him go when he did and thought he did a good job last term but to put him in the same bracket as GZ is ludicrous. Also, I have gone through most of the posts on here in the last few hours and can't see any references to Bas, only Sean. To say that this division is the weakest for ages is total nonsense. You are obviously trying to seek a reaction or, more likely, you know stuff-all about what's happening around you. Are we good enough at the moment? No, of course we aren't but then most thinking people said from the outset that we need until Christmas to settle down to a winning formation and team and then to push on up the table from their. Your lack of any faith or pozzo-tivity is staggering and I'm not normally the kind of poster that suggests that others should pop on up the road to Scumton Town but in your case, I'll make an exception! Tata

hogweed wrote:
Demoralised. Just cannot repeat cannot manage a game out. Not scoring enough goals. Just 2 in 3 games and one of those from the spot. Need a 20 goal a season player and in our vast squad we have none. Have to spend money and buy a decent striker in January after all the Pozzo's have not spent one pound on a permanent transfer yet.

Hog out

SAHornet wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Dear Bushey Tales just to confirm that under the old regime this is what our starting XI would look like upto Deeney's release from prison: Loach, Doyley, Bennett, Nosworthy, Dickinson, Yeates, Jenkins, Smith, Hogg, Garner and Iwelumo! Dyche would of been forced to sell Tiny, Mariappa,and Murray due to financial restraints, and he would of had no money to replace due to Bassini's lack of cash! The injured players would still of been injured!
This side would have had less then HALF our current tally of points so for me I applaud the Pozzo's for saving us and giving us a better team!
This side can only get better and come the new year upto May we will be very strong!

No, SD would have got us a lot more with this team of players, given the chance.
GFZ has not yet convinced me that he is any better.
Why oh why do you idiots keep going on about baz?
He is long gone and history so, why the blame and excuses 4 all that is not right at the moment.
Stop happy clapping the so called pozzo project factor and look at reality that, we are simply not good enough at the moment and I do not see any thing so far that is any better than what we had last season.
This division is the weakest I have seen 4 many a season and any 1 of 40+ could reach the holy grail. My opinion is, we will not be one of those!

I can barely believe your post, Scully old chap. You surely can't be serious that SD would have had a clue what to do with these players? Don't get me wrong, I was sorry to see him go when he did and thought he did a good job last term but to put him in the same bracket as GZ is ludicrous. Also, I have gone through most of the posts on here in the last few hours and can't see any references to Bas, only Sean. To say that this division is the weakest for ages is total nonsense. You are obviously trying to seek a reaction or, more likely, you know stuff-all about what's happening around you. Are we good enough at the moment? No, of course we aren't but then most thinking people said from the outset that we need until Christmas to settle down to a winning formation and team and then to push on up the table from their. Your lack of any faith or pozzo-tivity is staggering and I'm not normally the kind of poster that suggests that others should pop on up the road to Scumton Town but in your case, I'll make an exception! Tata

sceptic wrote:
Any chance that the Watford Observer can get an Enigma machine to decode young Master Bottom's letters into English?

Bush Hornet wrote:
Does anyone have a spare ticket for the forum? I want to touch the hem of Lutondown's robe and hang on his every word.

By the way, to all the goats, have you seen this?
http://www1.skysport

s.com/football/news/

11979/8195729/Zola-s

-new-goals
I just love it

Bush Hornet wrote:
Does anyone have a spare ticket for the forum? I want to touch the hem of Lutondown's robe and hang on his every word.

By the way, to all the goats, have you seen this?
http://www1.skysport

s.com/football/news/

11979/8195729/Zola-s

-new-goals
I just love it

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Hornet1970 wrote: for me the real mistake by the possos is the fact they sacked dyche, should of kept him and slotted zola in to work alongside him if thats what they wanted. Dyche would be awesome with this squad at his disposal

Get real.he wouldn't know what to do with them and as for formations....

Im 99% certain Dyche was offered a role within the new structure but as it was'nt the main coaches post, he didnt want tto be involved. There is also a myth about Dyche been some miracle worker. Wrong. He had more luck than i have seen 10,000 people have. It was by sheer fluke that Kightly and Tomasz became avliable on loan and withoutthem we would of finished 15/16/17th. To say Dyche would of been awsome with this squad tells me your a bit in love with him. He wouldnt of known what to do!

lutondown wrote:

sceptic wrote:
Any chance that the Watford Observer can get an Enigma machine to decode young Master Bottom's letters into English?

Perhaps you'd understand him better if you was to realise that Chris has spent most if his young life in hospitals and therefore missed out on large chunks if schooling.
What he has got in spades is a passion for his club, one that he only supports and never berates and a very good understanding of the game. On the occasions we have watched a game he is as articulate as the best.
I doff my hat to Mr Bottom, and may his posts keep coming.

sceptic wrote:
Any chance that the Watford Observer can get an Enigma machine to decode young Master Bottom's letters into English?

wozza68 wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Hornet1970 wrote: for me the real mistake by the possos is the fact they sacked dyche, should of kept him and slotted zola in to work alongside him if thats what they wanted. Dyche would be awesome with this squad at his disposal

Get real.he wouldn't know what to do with them and as for formations....

Im 99% certain Dyche was offered a role within the new structure but as it was'nt the main coaches post, he didnt want tto be involved. There is also a myth about Dyche been some miracle worker. Wrong. He had more luck than i have seen 10,000 people have. It was by sheer fluke that Kightly and Tomasz became avliable on loan and withoutthem we would of finished 15/16/17th. To say Dyche would of been awsome with this squad tells me your a bit in love with him. He wouldnt of known what to do!

Agree with that Chris, Its unbeleivable that people put Dyche on a pedastool and find fault with the fact that Zola is creating a team that in my opinion, will eventually play free flowing attacking football. We have seen evidence of this already (well those of us that attend)

I really dont know what to make of people that still long for the dross served up last year by a team managed by Dyche. Guess peoples expectations on how the game should be played are very diferent.

COYH

KeithMercer wrote:
If Dychey is so good a manager why is there not a big queue forming to re employ this tactical genius ?
Please dont tell me his pay off was so lucrative that he can wait and have the pick of the cream of the top ! or is he waiting for Fergie to hang up his hairdryer?.
Once again gutted today, but I am in for the long haul ! unfortunately some seem to think we should have the league wrapped up by now.

sid_kiki wrote:
i am sid kiki and i don't go to watch watford so i can't comment

Feff wrote:
Chelsea players are not known to become great managers. Vialli, Ray Wilkins, Gullit, Wise, Hollins. Zola did not succeed at West Ham. Of course, the Pozzos have been a Godsend. And, of course, an Italian manager is the ideal. But is GFZ experienced enough? He is immensely likeable, a hero at Chelsea, but is he the right man for a job as different and difficult at this?

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Dear Scully - reading your previous post on me - the only reason why Dyche went was because of the takeover! If Bassini wasn't forced to sell then we would of been broke and Dyche would of remained, then the team would of been stripped of any value players and we would be not only financially crippled but we would of had a weaker side WITHOUT the quality players we now have! FACT!
Not a hard choice for any genuine Watford fan to make really:
Choose 1 - Old board, Old Gaffer, No Cash, Assets Sold, Weak Side, Possible Relegation. OR
Choose 2 - Pozzos, Zola, Financial Stability, Stronger Side, Good Chance Of Play-Offs!

Duffman out!

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Just a thought...
Look at Reading and Saints, both walked the league, yet cannot find their feet in the Prem... Reality check... We are not going to win this League...this year, we probably won't get promoted... ( which could be to our benefit) isn't it better to build a team this Season, filled with quality..playing the best football for 25years+, stability within the team, keep the squad together and be well equipped for the Prem in2 years? I know I am willing to wait..who seriously wants promotion followed by humiliation week after week?

SAHornet wrote:

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Just a thought...
Look at Reading and Saints, both walked the league, yet cannot find their feet in the Prem... Reality check... We are not going to win this League...this year, we probably won't get promoted... ( which could be to our benefit) isn't it better to build a team this Season, filled with quality..playing the best football for 25years+, stability within the team, keep the squad together and be well equipped for the Prem in2 years? I know I am willing to wait..who seriously wants promotion followed by humiliation week after week?

Agree with this post 100%

buckshornet wrote:
we deserved a draw never looked like scoring especially with fat deeney up front.yeates was woeful as always especially at set pieces.almunia's kicking was also very poor on a number of ocassions.i was reasonably impressed with fanchone and could only think he went of due to fatigue.like many other baffling subs and team selections.murray has been under performing but still far better than yeates! drop deeney,yeates and don't use them again as they are just not good enough.can't wait for nosworthy,abdi,eusta

ce,pudil are back in the side.if we actually attacked a bit more we might actually score a few.very negative yesterday against an average side.

Bringe wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Just a thought...
Look at Reading and Saints, both walked the league, yet cannot find their feet in the Prem... Reality check... We are not going to win this League...this year, we probably won't get promoted... ( which could be to our benefit) isn't it better to build a team this Season, filled with quality..playing the best football for 25years+, stability within the team, keep the squad together and be well equipped for the Prem in2 years? I know I am willing to wait..who seriously wants promotion followed by humiliation week after week?

Agree with this post 100%

You seem to forget we have certain advantages with the Udinese and Granada player pools at our disposal and unlike Reading and S'hmpton we don't have to shell out millions for mediocre players that the top clubs aren't interested in. Quite the opposite, if we did go up, the cream of Pozzo's crop will be clamoring for a shot at the PL.