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Watford do everything but score against Tottenham Hotspur in FA Cup
9:57pm Friday 27th January 2012 in Watford FC - Match Reports By Anthony Matthews, Group Sports Editor
Superb Hornets out of cup
If ever there was a game when everyone associated with Watford could take a great sense of pride and even pleasure in a defeat then this was it after Spurs booked their place in the fifth round of the FA Cup at Vicarage Road with a 1-0 victory.
The outcome was ultimately decided by a speculative 43rd-minute strike from Rafael Van der Vaart that Scott Loach should have dealt with but that moment apart, a replay was the very least the Hornets deserved.
Every player in yellow put in an excellent shift to produce the performance of the season to date, playing some superb football at times and consistently taking the game to the third best team in the country at the moment. All that was missing was a goal – but it wasn’t for the want of trying.
Sean Murray and John Eustace both hit the woodwork, Troy Deeney missed a golden chance to convert the rebound from the former, while Prince Buaben had another effort hacked off the line by Carlo Cudicini. The result was the Hornets had 25 goal attempts – Tottenham managed just six, although Van der Vaart also hit the woodwork after the break.
Sean Dyche was forced into one change from the side that lost 3-0 at Birmingham City last time, as Jonathan Hogg was sidelined with a knee injury, but he also made two others – and the names to come into the side would have surprised some.
While Lloyd Doyley’s inclusion at the expense of Carl Dickinson was less of a shock, the appearance of Joe Garner and Murray, for only his second senior start, certainly did raise a few eyebrows. Along with Dickinson, the other player to drop to the bench was Mark Yeates.
Harry Redknapp walked into Vicarage Road alongside his coaching staff and players following the fifth day of his trial at Southwark Crown Court on two counts of cheating the public revenue – charges which he and co-accused Milan Mandaric deny - and he selected many of his big guns, with Scott Parker, Luka Modric, Van der Vaart, Jermain Defoe and Emmanuel Adebayor all starting.
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Unsurprisingly, it was the visitors who had most of the possession in the opening stages but it was the hosts who had the first opening in the sixth minute when Deeney intercepted a misplaced Van der Vaart pass and released Marvin Sordell on the counter. He attacked down the right before checking back inside former Hornets loanee Danny Rose but his shot lacked power and Carlo Cudicini was able to save low down at his near post.
The former Chelsea keeper was tested again moments later by a low drive from Murray, who had started promisingly, and then had to be alert to scoop the ball away from Sordell, who was sliding in looking for the rebound.
The opportunities continued to come the Hornets’ way, and in the 15th minute Sordell got across the near post to get on the end of Deeney’s low centre from the right but he was unable to turn the ball goalwards under pressure from Cudicini.
Buaben chanced his arm soon after with a shot from 20 yards that was always curling away from the near post but it did make the goal attempt count 6-0 in Watford’s favour in the opening 17 minutes.
The Hornets had clearly been the better side up until the halfway point of the first period and they had another chance in the 25th minute when Murray intelligently switched play to the right where Deeney laid a first-time pass into Garner, who was in space in the area, but he didn’t make a decent enough contact with his first-time attempt.
Spurs finally mustered their first attempt in the 29th minute when, after Van der Vaart and Adebayor had played some intricate one-touch football on the edge of the Hornets’ area, the ball for Defoe, but he could only volley into the ground and the ball bounced up for Scott Loach to make an easy save.
Sordell and Buaben had long-range efforts blocked at the other end as Watford continued to play confidently, and very effectively at times, although their opponents did enjoy some more prolonged spells of possession as the half drew to a close.
A share of the spoils was the least the hosts deserved to take into the break but two minutes before the interval Spurs made the breakthrough.
Kyle Walker made the initial inroads before laying the ball inside to Van der Vaart who, from 25 yards out, hit a speculative left-footed shot that Loach should have dealt with but he misjudged his dive and the ball bounced up over it to give the visitors an undeserved lead at the break.
Redknapp decided to make a change at the start of the second half, replacing Modric with Aaron Lennon, but it was the Hornets who had the first attempt after the break, with Buaben firing his fourth attempt of the night high and wide.
The Hornets had a better opening soon after when, from the game’s first corner, Murray’s deep set piece from the right was played deep to Eustace at the back post and he chested it down before shooting over the near post angle.
But from the restart, the visitors were very lucky not to be pegged back.
Tottenham were far too casual in playing out from the back, lost possession and then found themselves outnumbered as the ball was worked to Murray in space on the left side of the area. The youngster did everything right, opening up his body to shape a shot wide of Cudicini, only to see it rebound off the far post. Even then, Deeney should have buried the rebound from the right angle of the area but he put it wide of the near post.
This seemed to wake Spurs up and they had the next opportunity in the 53rd minute when Loach decided not to come for Rose’s cross from the left but then had to push Walker’s header over his own bar.
Rose almost created another opportunity with a driven cross from the same side but Defoe was unable to get a touch as it flashed across the area.
It was Watford’s turn to get a lucky break in the 65th minute when, following a careless Garner pass, Spurs broke, with Defoe leading the charge and picking out Lennon in space on the right of the area. He then played it back to Van der Vaart, whose right-footed shot rebounded to safety off the face of the bar.
Dyche made his first change in the 68th minute, bringing on Yeates for Murray, who could be pleased with his night’s work, but still the chances kept coming Watford’s way, with Deeney firing wide from the edge of the area.
Eustace went closer still two minutes later, heading another deep Yeates corner against the outside of Cudicini’s left-hand post after Cudicini had to claw a Lee Hodson cross away from beneath his own bar.
Buaben had the next opening, placing a shot too close to Buaben after more fine build-up play, and then Garner got up well to meet another Yeates corner but couldn’t direct his header on target.
The feeling that it might not be Watford’s night was further strengthened in the 80th minute when, from a Yeates free-kick on the right, the ball was headed down in the area to Buaben, who turned it goalwards, only for Cudicini to instinctively stick out a leg to save on his line and then Sordell’s follow up was blocked.
Both sides made a change with ten minutes left – Matty Whichelow replacing Garner for the Hornets, while Defoe made way for Steven Pienaar – before Yeates joined the ever-lengthening list of Watford hard luck stories in front of goal, seeing his goal-bound effort hit a Spurs head.
Loach was forced into a rare piece of action four minutes from time when he had to beat out a Parker snap-shot but the last action of the night saw Yeates’ 25-yard free-kick easily saved by Cudicini.
Watford: Loach; Hodson, Nosworthy, Mariappa, Doyley; Deeney, Eustace, Buaben, Murray (Yeates 68); Garner (Whichelow 80), Sordell. Not used: Dickinson, Iwelumo, Forsyth, Jenkins and Bond.
Tottenham Hotspur: Cudicini; Walker, Dawson, Kaboul, Rose; Livermore, Van der Vaart, Parker, Modric (Lennon 46); Defoe (Pienaar 80), Adebayor (Pavlyuchenko 90). Not used: Bassong, Kranjcar, Friedel and Assou-Ekotto.
Bookings: Hodson for a foul on Ross (89).
Attendance: 15,384.
Referee: Chris Foy.
Comments(81)
True watford fan
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10:07pm Fri 27 Jan 12
bigthunder
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10:12pm Fri 27 Jan 12
well almost everyone
But have to question Sean dyche WHY does it take so long for you to play our younger players Murray was best player on the pitch , yes many good performances but murray was exeptional
Also Dyche you once again select the totally incompetant Loach WAKE UP MAN THIS GUY WILL GET YOU THE SACK
Loach please just get lost you are a liability and cost your team mates so many times ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
an outstanding performance ruined by a useless goalkeeper and failure to put the ball in the net
well played but Dyche you need to sort this out and pick the right players or you will no doubt pay the penalty !
Stoney77
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10:16pm Fri 27 Jan 12
only negative was tht I was disappointed with Garner, he has done absolutely nothing to inspire me in the games I have seen him, i cannot even recall him managing any of his efforts on target.
COYH, OH AND A BIG WELL DONE TO SEAN DYCHE TOO.
Stoney77
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10:22pm Fri 27 Jan 12
bigthunder wrote:Question is, is Bond good enough to cover? I have no idea personally but i guess it wont hurt to give him a run for a few games, he cant do any worse than Scott. Scott needs to be rested and to regain his confidence, because despite his poor performances this season, I still think he has decent potential.
First of all have to say what a fantastic performance from everyone
well almost everyone
But have to question Sean dyche WHY does it take so long for you to play our younger players Murray was best player on the pitch , yes many good performances but murray was exeptional
Also Dyche you once again select the totally incompetant Loach WAKE UP MAN THIS GUY WILL GET YOU THE SACK
Loach please just get lost you are a liability and cost your team mates so many times ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
an outstanding performance ruined by a useless goalkeeper and failure to put the ball in the net
well played but Dyche you need to sort this out and pick the right players or you will no doubt pay the penalty !
stevemag
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10:23pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Back four fantastic, Sean Murray and Mr Eustace were brilliant.
Only sore point ONCE AGAIN was that useless goalkeeper again Scott loach .
When are you people going to realise he Is costing us big time
JohnnyHornet
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10:25pm Fri 27 Jan 12
The BestTrip2011
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10:25pm Fri 27 Jan 12
We lack quality in finishing;
Sean Murray should play every week;
Mapps justified why WFC should hold out for what he's worth;
Scott Loach is a liability and has cost us again. Too many mistakes.
Hard luck lads. Lets take that kind of motivation and spirit into every game.
Berks Horn
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10:26pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Branimir Belchev
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10:33pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Stoney77
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10:34pm Fri 27 Jan 12
buckler
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10:35pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Hornet Cornet
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10:41pm Fri 27 Jan 12
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radlettman
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10:43pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Have to question whether Deeney is ever going to make it. No real quality and Deeney's finishing is useless.... he runs and wears his heart on his sleeve - a bit like Dicko and looked what happened to him. It was a great performance - now we need to work on our shape up front .... solid in defence and midfield,
strummerjoe
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10:44pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Fantastic game, great atmosphere - onwards and upwards. Roll on Millwall.
Feff
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10:46pm Fri 27 Jan 12
WFC4ever
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10:47pm Fri 27 Jan 12
All the guys can be pleased with their efforts and play like that in the league will lead to more positive results (hopefully)
Excellent atmosphere as well.
derry pigweed
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10:49pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Sean please get rid of this below average keeper
I am sure he would do well for Oxhey Jets reserves
cliff46
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10:51pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Really pleased to see youngsters given a game.
Thought all of our back four were first class and was pleased to see we selected our best left back at last.
Hodson had a super game and demonstrated how much he has improved this season.
I admired the way the team continued to press after Loach's clanger, they must have absolutely choked to see such a soft goal go in after their enormous collective effort.
Let's hope Mariappa is still with us on Tuesday and that he and Nyron shut Darius out as effectively as they did Tottenham's front two.
rookerylad
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10:52pm Fri 27 Jan 12
However, loach's kicking speaks volumes about him, the easiest part of the game is made to look impossible! Garner, sordell, deeney and garner looked threatening, but don't see it lasting. We didn't miss Hogg tonight, and buaben looked like a midfielder, not just a lazy striker!
Well done to the 'horns, roll on millwall!
Stoney77
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10:53pm Fri 27 Jan 12
strummerjoe wrote:wait til you see it on TV, its not a case of "could MAYBE" have got to that shot, its a case of a definite error! which is a shame because it cost us, at the very least, a money spinning replay. Whilst I agree we lack the cutting edge up front, its not our poor finishing that lost us the game.
I can't believe that after that fantastic display all some of you can do is slate Loach. Okay, he could MAYBE have got to that shot; equally our forwards could have put away one of the 12 attempts on target or more importantly the 13 attempts off target.
Fantastic game, great atmosphere - onwards and upwards. Roll on Millwall.
derry pigweed
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11:00pm Fri 27 Jan 12
But the Watford played brilliant tonight
and deserved a draw
But we have the misfortune to have the most over rated keeper since Lennie Pidgley
Scot or Lennie
Who cares they are both RUBBISH..!
cliff46
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11:14pm Fri 27 Jan 12
If he is fit for Tuesday where do we fit him back in particularly if Murrey starts as I hope he will.?
Hornet1970
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11:22pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Great backing from the fans, should be like that every week!
spuds totally out sung too..
COYH
Hornets number 12 fan
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11:23pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Hornets number 12 fan
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11:24pm Fri 27 Jan 12
buckler
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11:34pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Hornet Cornet
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11:38pm Fri 27 Jan 12
luther blissett
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11:45pm Fri 27 Jan 12
I am definitely taking more positives than negatives tonight though.
luther blissett
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11:47pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Hornet Cornet
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11:51pm Fri 27 Jan 12
NLFG
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11:54pm Fri 27 Jan 12
ralear49
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11:59pm Fri 27 Jan 12
Hornet Cornet
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12:04am Sat 28 Jan 12
Casterbridge
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12:07am Sat 28 Jan 12
I hope that we learn the lesson: we are much more dangerous when we play football on the ground.
Only criticism was of Eustace, who reverted to his defensive mentality, particularly towards the end when the ball needed to be played forward ASAP.
Overall, though, much praise for a great team effort. COYH!
D.unstable
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12:18am Sat 28 Jan 12
tonyevans22
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1:01am Sat 28 Jan 12
PurpleRalph
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1:27am Sat 28 Jan 12
ralear49 wrote:The Everton v Fulham game was the live USA match due to several yanks playing - not the Watford match.
The game was shown live in the USA. I couldn't be prouder of the lads, but now I know what you all mean about Loach. I hope they play this quality of football for the remainder of the league schedule. They had such great composure and made Spurs look average at the end.
Deeny as usual can't hit a cow's arris with a banjo. That was the worst moment for me in an otherwise outstanding team performance.
Watfordwes
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1:53am Sat 28 Jan 12
NLFG wrote:Clap clap clap
I guess it was Loach's fault that the defence backed off Van Der Vaart to allow the shot? And Troy Deeney missing an open goal was down to Loachy as well?
Watfordwes
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1:58am Sat 28 Jan 12
Watfordwes wrote:10 starting players stepped up tonight and put up a collective display I didn't feel they were capable of ....
NLFG wrote:Clap clap clap
I guess it was Loach's fault that the defence backed off Van Der Vaart to allow the shot? And Troy Deeney missing an open goal was down to Loachy as well?
1 did not ...
Hornet23
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5:37am Sat 28 Jan 12
Clap clap clap...
SAHornet
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6:01am Sat 28 Jan 12
We can play attractive attacking football if we close down opposition quickly. Prince needs to have the confidence to really go for goal when he shoots. Garner does not seem to be up to the mark. Loach is appalling, really appalling - commentators were slating him not excusing him. We need more positive ideas in the final third. Poor and indecisive decisions there mean we don't score goals - had Loach not screwed up and had we made intelligent decisions up front, I am certain we would have won comfortably.
All that being said, I am a proud 'orn today. That was a more than creditable performance. Well done lads....well all but 1 of you.
lutondown
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6:23am Sat 28 Jan 12
NLFG wrote:Scott go back to twittering your excuses!
I guess it was Loach's fault that the defence backed off Van Der Vaart to allow the shot? And Troy Deeney missing an open goal was down to Loachy as well?
lutondown
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6:29am Sat 28 Jan 12
Casterbridge wrote:Who said that, all I've heard by commentators and every report that's come out on the game that Loach should have collected
I was at the game, so haven't seen any TV, but my son says that the commentators all agreed that Loach had been very unlucky, and that it would have beaten most premiership keepers.
I hope that we learn the lesson: we are much more dangerous when we play football on the ground.
Only criticism was of Eustace, who reverted to his defensive mentality, particularly towards the end when the ball needed to be played forward ASAP.
Overall, though, much praise for a great team effort. COYH!
It's a shame as we were excellent and the atmosphere likewise
As for Eustace, Harry Rednapp said how he bossed the midfield, think you saw a different game to others.
What we do agree on Is how well we played football, learn from it Sean, you'll have us all on side
Murray must be utilised, as must Wichelow given a go
Best defeat all season!
corbindallas
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8:27am Sat 28 Jan 12
onlyonerodthomas
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8:55am Sat 28 Jan 12
tonyevans22 wrote:you wanna get real.have you been watching watford this last 3 years?.i have never seen a keeper this bad since tony meola!!.they say every keeper has a mistake in them but jesus christ,loach is the exception.every week people posting that it cant get worse,well it does.i remember when loach got beaten by a free kick about 3 years ago at home.(cant remember opposition)but i said then he was useless.unfortunatel
Get off scotts back ffs,the defence backed off and the ball bounced 2 yards out from him and flew in as the ball gained momentum and rose.Deeneys miss was awful but no one mentions that who is criticizing loach.And Ive never seen a player's shot clear the Rookery stand before.
y we dont have an experienced keeper as cover,but even so it must be worth risking playing bond or north instead.i took my mate last night who cant make weekends so does'nt go a great deal,but warned him as the game started how many times loach gets beaten from outside the box!!.spurs knew this and i bet they were told to test this clown from distance.couldnt fault the rest of the team though.made the 3rd best team in the prem look average.we can take a lot of credit from this and hopefully start on tues with a result against millwall.
CreteJoe
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9:11am Sat 28 Jan 12
pstannard4
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9:33am Sat 28 Jan 12
Watfordwes
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9:46am Sat 28 Jan 12
tonyevans22 wrote:Deeneys miss was awful, but over 90 mins his work rate, heading crossing made hime 7/10.
Get off scotts back ffs,the defence backed off and the ball bounced 2 yards out from him and flew in as the ball gained momentum and rose.Deeneys miss was awful but no one mentions that who is criticizing loach.And Ive never seen a player's shot clear the Rookery stand before.
Keepers are unfortunate, they make a mistake it's hard to rectify.
Spurs had one shot on target, it was saveable loach let it in! Everyone else played above themselves, Scott unfortunately did not!
Andrew1963
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10:03am Sat 28 Jan 12
jasonwatford
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10:55am Sat 28 Jan 12
watfordal
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11:14am Sat 28 Jan 12
Adebayor and Defoe....£175000 pw between them. They were an embarrassment ..without the outstanding Kaboul, we'd have won the game. CO the GB's.
stevemag
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11:16am Sat 28 Jan 12
Any doubters out there, type "Sean Murray goals" into you tube and watch the free kick against fulham in the fa youth cup plus another amazing goal in a reserve match.
tgb1963
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12:27pm Sat 28 Jan 12
rousman 2
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12:37pm Sat 28 Jan 12
NLFG wrote:I think it was also his fault that that ship sunk last week !!!!
I guess it was Loach's fault that the defence backed off Van Der Vaart to allow the shot? And Troy Deeney missing an open goal was down to Loachy as well?
rousman 2
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12:42pm Sat 28 Jan 12
Casterbridge wrote:criticism of Eustace ?? you are having a laugh mate MOM for me.
I was at the game, so haven't seen any TV, but my son says that the commentators all agreed that Loach had been very unlucky, and that it would have beaten most premiership keepers.
I hope that we learn the lesson: we are much more dangerous when we play football on the ground.
Only criticism was of Eustace, who reverted to his defensive mentality, particularly towards the end when the ball needed to be played forward ASAP.
Overall, though, much praise for a great team effort. COYH!
rousman 2
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12:45pm Sat 28 Jan 12
tonyevans22 wrote:Good post mate agree 100%
Get off scotts back ffs,the defence backed off and the ball bounced 2 yards out from him and flew in as the ball gained momentum and rose.Deeneys miss was awful but no one mentions that who is criticizing loach.And Ive never seen a player's shot clear the Rookery stand before.
Mr Magee
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12:55pm Sat 28 Jan 12
birmo
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1:28pm Sat 28 Jan 12
LE PARK
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2:14pm Sat 28 Jan 12
lutondown
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2:14pm Sat 28 Jan 12
rousman 2 wrote:mom for me was Eustace and Tax free Harry agrees!!
Casterbridge wrote:criticism of Eustace ?? you are having a laugh mate MOM for me.
I was at the game, so haven't seen any TV, but my son says that the commentators all agreed that Loach had been very unlucky, and that it would have beaten most premiership keepers.
I hope that we learn the lesson: we are much more dangerous when we play football on the ground.
Only criticism was of Eustace, who reverted to his defensive mentality, particularly towards the end when the ball needed to be played forward ASAP.
Overall, though, much praise for a great team effort. COYH!
The only thing missing last nIght was luck and a better goalie. I know you defend him Rousman but it's his distribution as well as his stopping duties.
lutondown
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2:21pm Sat 28 Jan 12
rousman 2 wrote:captain Loach it is then, away from his ship instead of saving passengers!
NLFG wrote:I think it was also his fault that that ship sunk last week !!!!
I guess it was Loach's fault that the defence backed off Van Der Vaart to allow the shot? And Troy Deeney missing an open goal was down to Loachy as well?
I do see where you draw the comparisons! ( that Was pure irony by the way!)
stevyweavy
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4:36pm Sat 28 Jan 12
rogeruk
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6:52pm Sat 28 Jan 12
stevyweavy wrote:Loach made one appalling mistake and we lost. Having 25 attempts and not scoring doesn't mean you lose. You need to understand football before you comment.
Whilst I agree with everyone that it was a horrible goal to let in we should not forget that Loach made some good saves and he is the last single line of defence. That goalshould not have been the deciding factor. We had four forward players that had 25 chances to put the ball in the net and failed 25 times - Loach should not get the blame for 1 error out of 6.
Alex Hillcroft
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6:58pm Sat 28 Jan 12
If only we'd had a Danny Graham or Heidar H up front alongside Sordell we'd be celebrating a win - rather than revelling in our role of plucky losers
rogeruk
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7:01pm Sat 28 Jan 12
lutondown wrote:Spot on luton down. I watched ESPN 4000 kms away from watford.
rousman 2 wrote:mom for me was Eustace and Tax free Harry agrees!!
Casterbridge wrote:criticism of Eustace ?? you are having a laugh mate MOM for me.
I was at the game, so haven't seen any TV, but my son says that the commentators all agreed that Loach had been very unlucky, and that it would have beaten most premiership keepers.
I hope that we learn the lesson: we are much more dangerous when we play football on the ground.
Only criticism was of Eustace, who reverted to his defensive mentality, particularly towards the end when the ball needed to be played forward ASAP.
Overall, though, much praise for a great team effort. COYH!
The only thing missing last nIght was luck and a better goalie. I know you defend him Rousman but it's his distribution as well as his stopping duties.
John Barnes was furious with Loach as were all the other commentators, Loach is a liability and arrogant to boot.
We should pay a team to take Loach off our hands.
See the replay on TV he made a schoolboy dive it was pathetic.
How his team mates put up with him I can't imagine all that brilliant work and play ruined by Loach absolutely stomach wrenching.
He has gone backwards I think he has a mentality problem thinking he is much better than he is. Every time the ball was in the area my heart was in my mouth.
We must sign a decent keeper Gilmartin is not up to championship, with no mature keeper available. A goalkeeper is now a priority. Had we a finisher like Danny Graham would probably have won by five.
grahamwfc
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7:05pm Sat 28 Jan 12
cliff46 wrote:THAT'S EASY
As Rookerylad has already said we didnt miss the excellent Hogg tonight which confirms how well The Prince and Eustace played..
If he is fit for Tuesday where do we fit him back in particularly if Murrey starts as I hope he will.?
No Garner & push Troy up front Eustace holding with Murray Hogg & Baubin playing a three> Whichelow to come on last 20 minutes
lutondown
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7:18pm Sat 28 Jan 12
grahamwfc wrote:yep
cliff46 wrote:THAT'S EASY
As Rookerylad has already said we didnt miss the excellent Hogg tonight which confirms how well The Prince and Eustace played..
If he is fit for Tuesday where do we fit him back in particularly if Murrey starts as I hope he will.?
No Garner & push Troy up front Eustace holding with Murray Hogg & Baubin playing a three> Whichelow to come on last 20 minutes
No way leave Hogg out.
Thing that puzzles me about last night is why when we can play such good football, we ever play a hybrid Rugby game.
I really hope Dyche learns from hs own lesson, as losing is ok if done the right way
tonupchris
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9:30pm Sat 28 Jan 12
ralear49
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10:34pm Sat 28 Jan 12
PurpleRalph wrote:How strange! And I could have sworn I was sitting there watching it on DirectTV in Arizona while texting my sister who was at the game! (They showed both games).
ralear49 wrote: The game was shown live in the USA. I couldn't be prouder of the lads, but now I know what you all mean about Loach. I hope they play this quality of football for the remainder of the league schedule. They had such great composure and made Spurs look average at the end.The Everton v Fulham game was the live USA match due to several yanks playing - not the Watford match. Deeny as usual can't hit a cow's arris with a banjo. That was the worst moment for me in an otherwise outstanding team performance.
stevyweavy
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12:30am Sun 29 Jan 12
rogeruk wrote:I think you are the ignorant one. Anyone else on the field if they make a terrible mistake there is generally someone to clear up the mistake and Loach made some good saves from other Watford player mistakes but everyone forgets about those that don't result in a goal unfortunately the goal keeer has nobody behind him to cover his mistakes generally. I am not a great fan of Loach but to blame him alone is stupid. Where was someone to close down Van de Vaart before he had his shot? It was a great game and Loach made one error. All of the team made at least one mistake and our strikers made a lot more to prevent us from winning the match. Turning your comment around - we can't win a game if we don't score a goal. It was a great match and a disappointing result.
stevyweavy wrote:Loach made one appalling mistake and we lost. Having 25 attempts and not scoring doesn't mean you lose. You need to understand football before you comment.
Whilst I agree with everyone that it was a horrible goal to let in we should not forget that Loach made some good saves and he is the last single line of defence. That goalshould not have been the deciding factor. We had four forward players that had 25 chances to put the ball in the net and failed 25 times - Loach should not get the blame for 1 error out of 6.
rousman 2
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2:53pm Sun 29 Jan 12
lutondown wrote:I know well spotted !!!
rousman 2 wrote:captain Loach it is then, away from his ship instead of saving passengers!
NLFG wrote:I think it was also his fault that that ship sunk last week !!!!
I guess it was Loach's fault that the defence backed off Van Der Vaart to allow the shot? And Troy Deeney missing an open goal was down to Loachy as well?
I do see where you draw the comparisons! ( that Was pure irony by the way!)
Kingswoodhornet
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4:18pm Sun 29 Jan 12
rousman 2 wrote:Funny you should mention about Loach. I was watching a documentry the other night about JFK and I swear there was a man on a grassy knoll with a rifle and wearing a green top with a 1 on the back!
lutondown wrote:I know well spotted !!!
rousman 2 wrote:captain Loach it is then, away from his ship instead of saving passengers!
NLFG wrote:I think it was also his fault that that ship sunk last week !!!!
I guess it was Loach's fault that the defence backed off Van Der Vaart to allow the shot? And Troy Deeney missing an open goal was down to Loachy as well?
I do see where you draw the comparisons! ( that Was pure irony by the way!)
Hornetboy84
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5:36pm Sun 29 Jan 12
rogeruk wrote:.... yes blame loach then state if we had a finisher we would have won by 5 .... so it would have been what ... 6-1 ... so its all Loaches fault then ? Get real.
lutondown wrote:Spot on luton down. I watched ESPN 4000 kms away from watford.
rousman 2 wrote:mom for me was Eustace and Tax free Harry agrees!!
Casterbridge wrote:criticism of Eustace ?? you are having a laugh mate MOM for me.
I was at the game, so haven't seen any TV, but my son says that the commentators all agreed that Loach had been very unlucky, and that it would have beaten most premiership keepers.
I hope that we learn the lesson: we are much more dangerous when we play football on the ground.
Only criticism was of Eustace, who reverted to his defensive mentality, particularly towards the end when the ball needed to be played forward ASAP.
Overall, though, much praise for a great team effort. COYH!
The only thing missing last nIght was luck and a better goalie. I know you defend him Rousman but it's his distribution as well as his stopping duties.
John Barnes was furious with Loach as were all the other commentators, Loach is a liability and arrogant to boot.
We should pay a team to take Loach off our hands.
See the replay on TV he made a schoolboy dive it was pathetic.
How his team mates put up with him I can't imagine all that brilliant work and play ruined by Loach absolutely stomach wrenching.
He has gone backwards I think he has a mentality problem thinking he is much better than he is. Every time the ball was in the area my heart was in my mouth.
We must sign a decent keeper Gilmartin is not up to championship, with no mature keeper available. A goalkeeper is now a priority. Had we a finisher like Danny Graham would probably have won by five.
Deeney missed a sitter and gets cheered off the pitch.
we did enough to win and the team has to take a full share of blame for not putting the ball in the net.
My only complaint with Loach was he should have been in their 6-yard box to poach home a goal after Eustace's header.
buckler
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6:04pm Sun 29 Jan 12
lutondown
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6:10pm Sun 29 Jan 12
Kingswoodhornet wrote:I always knew that poor, paranoid, white trailer trash commie from Dallas (lee oswald harvey) was innocent!
rousman 2 wrote:Funny you should mention about Loach. I was watching a documentry the other night about JFK and I swear there was a man on a grassy knoll with a rifle and wearing a green top with a 1 on the back!
lutondown wrote:I know well spotted !!!
rousman 2 wrote:captain Loach it is then, away from his ship instead of saving passengers!
NLFG wrote:I think it was also his fault that that ship sunk last week !!!!
I guess it was Loach's fault that the defence backed off Van Der Vaart to allow the shot? And Troy Deeney missing an open goal was down to Loachy as well?
I do see where you draw the comparisons! ( that Was pure irony by the way!)
That Loach gets everywhere except around his goal area!
Stoney77
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9:52pm Sun 29 Jan 12
buckler wrote:Just out of interest, which 4 points are you referring to that you say Loach lost us?
Can't believe people are still backing Billy the clown on here? We're not talking about a pub team we are actually in the championship! He cost us 4 points recently, got sent off a week later and now were out of the cup! What more do you want this liability to screw up before its agreed he is total and utter trash! Big headed and arrogant with it as well!
stevemag
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12:03am Mon 30 Jan 12
Can't take crosses, can't punch and let's in goals from 30'yards too often.
It's schoolboy errors that's the thing. The goalkeeper is the most important player on the pitch and if you have one who has difficulties doing the basics then you play someone who can manage.
watfordal
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2:18pm Mon 30 Jan 12
I'd be interested to discover the evidence for his being "big-headed and arrogant". Not very good goalkeeper I'd agree with, but.................
buckler
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4:58pm Mon 30 Jan 12
Stoney77 wrote:The back pass she didn't deal with and the that girlie attempt at a punch! Bristol City and Leeds! Apart from that the level of Goalkeeping is very poor all round!
buckler wrote: Can't believe people are still backing Billy the clown on here? We're not talking about a pub team we are actually in the championship! He cost us 4 points recently, got sent off a week later and now were out of the cup! What more do you want this liability to screw up before its agreed he is total and utter trash! Big headed and arrogant with it as well!Just out of interest, which 4 points are you referring to that you say Loach lost us?
buckler
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5:02pm Mon 30 Jan 12
watfordal wrote:Have spoke and am in no doubt he really rates himself and is big headed! Have a little look at his twitter for more evidence.
I've never had the dubious pleasure of meeting Scott Loach, but others obviously have. I'd be interested to discover the evidence for his being "big-headed and arrogant". Not very good goalkeeper I'd agree with, but.................
lutondown says...
10:07pm Fri 27 Jan 12
How come only 15500? I know folk who couldn't get tickets
Marriapa did his stock no harm (sadly!)