7:21pm Saturday 5th November 2011 in Watford FC - Match Reports
By Frank Smith
Watford limped to another 1-0 defeat in front of the TV cameras as a controversial first-half strike from Scott McDonald handed Middlesbrough all three points.
The Hornets were a little fortunate to survive an early onslaught from the home side but grew into the half and arguably had the better chances in the opening period.
But Sean Dyche's men went into the break behind when McDonald was slid through, with the TV replays showing the Scot was a yard offside, and he scored his first goal in 12 games at the second attempt.
The second half was a dull affair and Watford could have few arguments that the score remained the same.
Both sides made one change apiece as Troy Deeney, Tuesday night's match winner, replaced Craig Forsyth and Merouane Zemmama came in for the injured Justin Hoyte for Middlesbrough.
It was a low attendance, as expected with the game being shown on TV, but the visitors gave the home crowd an immediate lift as they almost gifted Middlesbrough a goal inside 15 seconds. Prince Buaben's pass was easily intercepted by Barry Robson and the midfield turned Lee Hodson to fire a shot wide of the far post.
The Hornets played themselves into trouble again on three minutes when Scott Loach needed to parry Scott McDonald's volley away.
Buaben had a shot blocked for a corner, which was wasted, but Middlesbrough had their third decent chance in the opening seven minutes when Tony McMahon's corner was headed to Marvin Emnes at the far post and he cut inside Deeney to stab wide of the near post, just yards from goal.
Watford settled after their frantic start and Emnes wayward effort from distance was the the only time either side went close to the goal again in the opening 20 minutes.
Chris Iwelumo has been much improved in recent games and he did well to force Jason Steele into a save at his near post when there seemed like nothing was on 20 yards from goal.
Watford then went agonisingly close to taking the lead from the resulting corner as he headed goalwards from close range, only for Marvin Sordell to inadvertently block the effort.
It was the Hornets who again had a decent chance to score as some nice build-up play results in Sordell laying the ball off to Buaben on the edge of the area but he fires well over.
Watford were arguably on top at this point and Deeney caused the home crowd more concern when he played Yeates' deep free kick back into the six-yard box.
Buaben was finding himself in advanced positions but was failing to capitalise as he fired over another effort from 20 yards out.
Middlesbrough were rarely posing the visitors a problem but they took the lead in controversial circumstances four minutes before the break when McDonald was put through when he seemed to be offside. Loach saved his initial effort but the Scot made sure with the second attempt.
A mishit Zemmama cross had Loach scrambling soon after but the score was 1-0 at half time.
The beginning of the second half was a very scrappy affair as both sides were making the wrong decisions when in possession.
Watford almost equalised just before the hour mark as another Yeates corner was header goalwards, this time by Carl Dickinson, and again it was blocked yards from the line.
Middlesbrough improved slightly as the half went on, as McDonald forced Loach into another stop and then Watford needed several attempts to clear, and block, attempts by substitute Faris Haroun.
Iwelumo struggled to make the same impact as recent games and was replaced by debutant Craig Beattie on 65 minutes.
Watford were fortunate not to go behind when Rhys Williams' low drive was parried out by Loach and Haroun blazed over from eight yards, under pressure from Buaben and Nyron Nosworthy.
The Hornets then had a spell of pressure, and several corners, as Yeates' free kick and subsequent 20-yard drive were deflected behind. But it ended with Lee Hodson trying a 35-yard strike with his weaker foot which was over and wide.
Both sides were poor in possession and were failing to make the most of any chances, as Emnes struck his shot straight at Loach. Williams also had an effort deflected out for a corner with nine minutes remaining.
The game ended with a limp as the Hornets failed to continue their improved recent form.
Middlesbrough: Steele; McMahon, Bates, Williams, Bennett; Robson, Bailey, McManus, Zemmama (Haroun 59); Emnes, McDonald.
Subs: Martin, Ogbeche, Arca, Smallwood.
Watford: Loach; Hodson (Forsyth 90+1), Nosworthy, Mariappa, Dickinson; Yeates, Hogg, Buaben (Jenkins 83), Deeney; Iwelumo (Beattie 65), Sordell Subs: Gilmartin, Mirfin.
Referee: Jock Waugh.
Attendance: 14,366 (209).
Comments(95)
WFC4ever
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7:32pm Sat 5 Nov 11
bigthunder
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7:37pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Casterbridge
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7:44pm Sat 5 Nov 11
buckler
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7:46pm Sat 5 Nov 11
abbotshornet
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WFC4ever
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Casterbridge wrote:True Middlesborough weren't good but we just lacked any real spark..bit like Brighton against us.
If Watford were poor, then by all accounts listening to 3CR, and apart from the opening 10 minutes, Middlesborough were worse - and look where they are in the table. Just one oddity: at the end Nosworthy went forward - and played on the wing with Forsyth in the middle! What was all that about? So let's not be downhearted: 10 points from the next 12 would put us back where we ought to be.
Larrythe Loafer 'Orn
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garston edl
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Casterbridge wrote:If we get 10 points out of the next 12 games then I'll eat my hat! I predict max 5 points. I think the dyche out banner will finally get aired at Leeds at home on dec 10th. Posh and Brighton wins have just delayed the inevitable. That game today was BORING!
If Watford were poor, then by all accounts listening to 3CR, and apart from the opening 10 minutes, Middlesborough were worse - and look where they are in the table.
Just one oddity: at the end Nosworthy went forward - and played on the wing with Forsyth in the middle! What was all that about?
So let's not be downhearted: 10 points from the next 12 would put us back where we ought to be.
Feff
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8:01pm Sat 5 Nov 11
garston edl
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8:08pm Sat 5 Nov 11
abbotshornet
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8:10pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Dollyhat
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8:14pm Sat 5 Nov 11
monkhorn
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8:16pm Sat 5 Nov 11
lutondown
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8:20pm Sat 5 Nov 11
garston edl wrote:He was and he was best off there
Apparently GT was at strictly?!
stevemag
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8:22pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Chris the Vic
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8:51pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Hornet23
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8:58pm Sat 5 Nov 11
lutondown
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9:00pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Chris the Vic wrote:no Chris the result was a fair reflection
WFC limp to victory do they WO.
Maybe it had something to do with the two studs up tackles that the ref saw but took no action against much to the surprise of the sky commentators.
The goal, well as Aidy said, the referees assistant is paid to watch for offsides not follow the game. He failed to do what he was paid for.
Not sure Boro didnt deserve the points but should they have had eleven men on the field and should they have that goal counted. In both cases the men in black got it totally wrong and we were cheated.
By the way is it just me that cant remember, but has Yeates ever made a tackle whilst playing for us?
harry uk
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9:03pm Sat 5 Nov 11
bigthunder
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9:06pm Sat 5 Nov 11
garston edl wrote:YES ! there i was winning the battle with the missus for the main BIG screen tv in the house, she does not like football but loves Strickly come dancing , she relented and let me watch watford only to come in and say "hey i have just seen your CHAIRMAN ON STRICKLY !" even he does not want to watch watford,
Apparently GT was at strictly?!
SCMW57
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9:07pm Sat 5 Nov 11
dolly33
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9:12pm Sat 5 Nov 11
lutondown
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9:13pm Sat 5 Nov 11
bigthunder wrote:who can argue with that? But someone will, look I love GT for what he's done for us but he surely can't be under contract to sit and watch Bruce's terrible jokes and a bunch of b listers?
garston edl wrote:YES ! there i was winning the battle with the missus for the main BIG screen tv in the house, she does not like football but loves Strickly come dancing , she relented and let me watch watford only to come in and say "hey i have just seen your CHAIRMAN ON STRICKLY !" even he does not want to watch watford,
Apparently GT was at strictly?!
I off course laughed at her saying it is bad enough having to accept him commentating on other teams without beleiving he would watch a dancing competition over watching the team he is chairman of !
SHE SAID well we have taped the show watch the very beggining so still laughing at her i duly watched the opening of the show back AND guess what she was right there he was MR GRAHAM TAYLOR clapping away as Brucie opened the show while his football team in one of there worse times in years is playing a game of football live on tv
what is the point !!! if our own chairman cannot back the team and at least watch them, why should we NO WONDER the attendances are falling
Yes in hindsight he maybe made the right decision as we were awful BUT NOT THE POINT AND AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE !
cliff46
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9:25pm Sat 5 Nov 11
SimonW, Godalming
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9:31pm Sat 5 Nov 11
buckler
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9:32pm Sat 5 Nov 11
bigthunder wrote:You think thats bad? Heard Bassini is in the crowd at Xfactor and wants the great Louis Walsh to take over from Dyche!
garston edl wrote: Apparently GT was at strictly?!YES ! there i was winning the battle with the missus for the main BIG screen tv in the house, she does not like football but loves Strickly come dancing , she relented and let me watch watford only to come in and say "hey i have just seen your CHAIRMAN ON STRICKLY !" even he does not want to watch watford, I off course laughed at her saying it is bad enough having to accept him commentating on other teams without beleiving he would watch a dancing competition over watching the team he is chairman of ! SHE SAID well we have taped the show watch the very beggining so still laughing at her i duly watched the opening of the show back AND guess what she was right there he was MR GRAHAM TAYLOR clapping away as Brucie opened the show while his football team in one of there worse times in years is playing a game of football live on tv what is the point !!! if our own chairman cannot back the team and at least watch them, why should we NO WONDER the attendances are falling Yes in hindsight he maybe made the right decision as we were awful BUT NOT THE POINT AND AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE !
garston edl
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9:38pm Sat 5 Nov 11
WFC4ever
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9:40pm Sat 5 Nov 11
abbotswreck
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watfordrick
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cliff46
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9:47pm Sat 5 Nov 11
buckler
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9:47pm Sat 5 Nov 11
garston edl wrote:The fans forum will probably be full of Dyche and Bassini **** lickers! No one will have the balls to have a go and it will no doubt end up a joke as well! Heard a ridiculous rumour that Bassini will use the forum to make up a story about spending 9 million on the ground! New media centre, finish corner and knock down and rebuild east stand. You heard from The Jam man First!!!
Our club is an absolute joke on and off the pitch. An bankrupt owner full of waffle - fact. A chairman who can't be bothered to watch us - fact. A manager totally out if his depth - fact. A team of poor players - fact. An apathetic, passionless crowd - fact. I can't wait till the fans forum on tuesday!
WFTTWTFR
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surreyhorn
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10:11pm Sat 5 Nov 11
cliff46
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10:12pm Sat 5 Nov 11
WFC4ever
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10:22pm Sat 5 Nov 11
surreyhorn wrote:I agree with that about the comments but do think we look rather slow in attack which is the problem.
What a negative bunch of tossers. Every week is the same.You only need to compare the number of posts when we win to when we lose. The usual suspects want us to lose so that they can come out with the same old cobblers.Yes we didn't look like scoring but performance wasn't that bad and effort couldn't be faulted. A few weeks ago everyone was moaning about signing Nosworthy and the last 3 games he has been excellent.No mention of that. Any excuse to slag the manager off. Comments like this is the worst team for 40 years are just total rubbish.
lutondown
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10:26pm Sat 5 Nov 11
mooneysmagic
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10:35pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Feff wrote:Wolves kindly let us sign Kightley so that we could pay his wages for a month. The same thing with Beattie. Obviously other clubs see we are an easy touch with idiotic Dyche remains in charge.
The Middlesbrough goal was a good yard offside. However, would some of the Dyche supporters explains why he persevered with Iwelumo; why he brought on Jenkins, a defensive midfielder for Bauben, who does know how to attack; why bring on Forsyth in the 1st minute of injury time. Where was Garner and what is the point of signing an injured Kightly on loan?
desk35
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10:54pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Hornet123456
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Monty99
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Hornet Cornet
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6:51am Sun 6 Nov 11
lutondown
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Hornet Cornet
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SAHornet
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8:26am Sun 6 Nov 11
harry uk wrote:You've hit the nail on the head, Harry. Bankrupt Bas is as much to blame as Dyche cos he knows sfa about football and wouldn't even be able to give Dyche a reason why he was firing him.
Agree with Feff, i find Dyche mind numbing, he doesnt have it to be a manager, Would he get another job in this division as a manager?, i dont think so, he is a total waste of time and will, if left, inflict serious damage to this clubs status. And the worrying thing is Bassini does not know enough about football to realise this.
Abbots hornet
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8:36am Sun 6 Nov 11
SAHornet
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8:47am Sun 6 Nov 11
surreyhorn wrote:surreyhorn and cliff46, you berate those who criticize so let me ask, are you prepared to sing the praises of an owner and manager all the way to relegation to league 1? Do you want to watch league 1 football or would you prefer to change things before it is too late to change? To me, it's a no-brainer. New manager please NOW. Someone that can organize and intergrate our talented youngsters with our so-called experienced players. Even if we can't afford a named manager, there are savvy managers out there who would love to come to WFC.
What a negative bunch of tossers. Every week is the same.You only need to compare the number of posts when we win to when we lose.
The usual suspects want us to lose so that they can come out with the same old cobblers.Yes we didn't look like scoring but performance wasn't that bad and effort couldn't be faulted.
A few weeks ago everyone was moaning about signing Nosworthy and the last 3 games he has been excellent.No mention of that.
Any excuse to slag the manager off.
Comments like this is the worst team for 40 years are just total rubbish.
garston edl
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9:04am Sun 6 Nov 11
Monty99 wrote:"a good spell for part of first half" what low standards you have. What constitutes a "good spell" in your mind? A header on target from a corner and a couple of row z shots from buaben?! On the whole we have been very poor this season from day 1 - borehamwood away. Call me negative, call me a t*sser but that's a fact. It really frustrates me when people say, keep dyche, who else is there available? Well, that's the boards job. What's their football knowledge like. There will be other Brendan Rodgers and aidy boothroyds (jury's out admittedly!) out there if you know your stuff. Look what McInnes is doing at Bristol city. I've heard there's a very promising, manager in the making called Michael Appleton on west broms coaching staff, for example. Dyche was a cheap and lazy option, and his big plus was he knew our kids, the kids he's not playing!!
Nice to see some real supporters amongst the usual gang of moaners. Where have you been recently. We had a good spell for part of first half. I agree we need to better going forward.
jasonwatford
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9:14am Sun 6 Nov 11
harry uk
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lutondown
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9:40am Sun 6 Nov 11
jasonwatford wrote:Spot on as always Jase
We looked poor last night going forward...i thought Mapps and Nosworthy played well and Hogg had a decent game showing passion and workrate.Cant stand Loach but he had a good game too. The thing is now we have a break and SD will now drop Prince and return JE which will in return stop any creativity in midfield. Yeats can deliver a ball but why do his legs go up and down so quickly but he moves like a snail ? He is not good enough for me. Big Chris i think we have seen the best he can offer,,,,Marvin well someone needs to sit with the boy and explain life...everytime he gets an England call up is goes missing the week before and 2 weeks after he returns from England game. Can anyone explain how Jenkins gets on the coach to an away game let alone the bench then the pitch ???? Prince can pass a ball can create..can shoot..although he didnt have a great game he can do these things Jenkins cant do any of that. Was SD bringing him on to protect a 1-0 loss ? They were another poor side. As for Craig Beattie well.......where was Garner ?
SD got lucky with JE getting injured that forced him to play prince that then won him 2 games against very average teams SD is not the man for me.
endean1
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10:00am Sun 6 Nov 11
Dollyhat wrote:well said, that about sums up the club at this moment.
What a terrible game. Two poor sides playing in an empty stadium. The championship this season is of a truly awful standard and as a Watford fan for over 45 years it pains me to say this side is one of the worst I can remember. Yeats, Dickinson,Deeney, Forsyth, Iwelumo are as poor as any players I have witnessed in a Watford shirt. We have absolutely no creativity in midfield and a complete lack of pace on either wing. How can we put it right? I really have no idea as we are stuck with these players for now. Change the manager? I doubt even Sir Alex Furguson could improve this lot, they are simply not good enough. Finally what is wrong with Marvin Sordell?.His was a disgusting performance tonight, like so many this season. He shows no passion or fight whatsoever but duly goes off to represent England at International level and probably feels 'I've arrived'. Sorry Marvin you most certainly have not as far as I am concerned. I am getting to the point that perhaps my time as a season ticket holder is coming to an end and the only redeeming thing is that we have, or should I say had some talented youngsters within the club. I bet they feel like alot of us do... totally disillusioned.
johnnyc72
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10:39am Sun 6 Nov 11
garston edl
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10:58am Sun 6 Nov 11
watfordal
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watfordal
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Chris the Vic
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11:21am Sun 6 Nov 11
johnnyc72
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11:28am Sun 6 Nov 11
garston edl wrote:I agree all is not well in the club. However continual berating of players is not the answer. There was so much criticism of nosworthy before he had even kicked a ball and now there are calls to sign him up permanently. Football is such a fickle business. For 2 games hodson had played well. I actually didn't think he had a bad game yesterday considering he gets such little support from yeates or deeney, yet some of the comments in here make him out to be the worst player ever.
johnnyc72, fair play for going to boro but all you're saying is we had some possession and a few corners, are you happy with that return for your days investment?!
You and the other 'clappers' for want of a better word, need to look at the criticism written on here and acknowledge that some very fair and factual comments are made when criticising the current state of affairs at Watford fc, on and off the pitch.
rousman 2
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11:44am Sun 6 Nov 11
bigthunder wrote:But " It was nice to see him to see him" !!!!
garston edl wrote:YES ! there i was winning the battle with the missus for the main BIG screen tv in the house, she does not like football but loves Strickly come dancing , she relented and let me watch watford only to come in and say "hey i have just seen your CHAIRMAN ON STRICKLY !" even he does not want to watch watford,
Apparently GT was at strictly?!
I off course laughed at her saying it is bad enough having to accept him commentating on other teams without beleiving he would watch a dancing competition over watching the team he is chairman of !
SHE SAID well we have taped the show watch the very beggining so still laughing at her i duly watched the opening of the show back AND guess what she was right there he was MR GRAHAM TAYLOR clapping away as Brucie opened the show while his football team in one of there worse times in years is playing a game of football live on tv
what is the point !!! if our own chairman cannot back the team and at least watch them, why should we NO WONDER the attendances are falling
Yes in hindsight he maybe made the right decision as we were awful BUT NOT THE POINT AND AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE !
rousman 2
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11:51am Sun 6 Nov 11
surreyhorn wrote:Good post mate 100% agree.
What a negative bunch of tossers. Every week is the same.You only need to compare the number of posts when we win to when we lose.
The usual suspects want us to lose so that they can come out with the same old cobblers.Yes we didn't look like scoring but performance wasn't that bad and effort couldn't be faulted.
A few weeks ago everyone was moaning about signing Nosworthy and the last 3 games he has been excellent.No mention of that.
Any excuse to slag the manager off.
Comments like this is the worst team for 40 years are just total rubbish.
northofwatfordpete
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11:52am Sun 6 Nov 11
buckler
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11:57am Sun 6 Nov 11
northofwatfordpete wrote:Hogg was everywhere, what game where you watching? Change your glasses or move on!
Was at the Riverside last night and felt that we played OK but not good enough to beat a decent side. Middlesbrough fielded a side that had no weaknesses and all looked very comfortable on the ball. I think Southampton bullied them off the park the other week and they were not going to let us do that to them in front of their home crowd. Several of our team are short of pace and others get knocked off the ball far too easily. Hogg is a decent footballer with some pace but does not contribute nearly enough. Prince looks the part but faded badly last night. Deeney for all his effort is not physical enough. Marvin went missing again and needs to change his attitude or move on.
There was only one Scully
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11:58am Sun 6 Nov 11
johnnyc72 wrote:Good constructive criticism from someone who is passionate and not doing the usual 'cut and paste', when we lose.
garston edl wrote:I agree all is not well in the club. However continual berating of players is not the answer. There was so much criticism of nosworthy before he had even kicked a ball and now there are calls to sign him up permanently. Football is such a fickle business. For 2 games hodson had played well. I actually didn't think he had a bad game yesterday considering he gets such little support from yeates or deeney, yet some of the comments in here make him out to be the worst player ever.
johnnyc72, fair play for going to boro but all you're saying is we had some possession and a few corners, are you happy with that return for your days investment?!
You and the other 'clappers' for want of a better word, need to look at the criticism written on here and acknowledge that some very fair and factual comments are made when criticising the current state of affairs at Watford fc, on and off the pitch.
I have no argument with people having a go at the manager, as he is there to manage. To slag off the players, especially the younger ones, sometimes goes a step to far.
However, we are all entitled to our opinion.
Ps. Not a "clapper", just someone who is passionate about our club.
Feff
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12:49pm Sun 6 Nov 11
watfordal
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12:59pm Sun 6 Nov 11
cliff46
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1:32pm Sun 6 Nov 11
cliff46
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1:50pm Sun 6 Nov 11
cliff46
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1:57pm Sun 6 Nov 11
garston edl
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2:09pm Sun 6 Nov 11
garston edl
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2:13pm Sun 6 Nov 11
lutondown
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2:31pm Sun 6 Nov 11
cliff46 wrote:no Cleefus I would have added the r to the lose!!!
I don't know how the word 'lose' found it's way to the bottom of my post, perhaps it's Lutondown trying to send me a subliminal message?
lutondown
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3:28pm Sun 6 Nov 11
There was only one Scully wrote:With the likes of Dickinson, Noseworthy and Olewumo we should take some bullying.
johnnyc72 wrote:Good constructive criticism from someone who is passionate and not doing the usual 'cut and paste', when we lose.
garston edl wrote:I agree all is not well in the club. However continual berating of players is not the answer. There was so much criticism of nosworthy before he had even kicked a ball and now there are calls to sign him up permanently. Football is such a fickle business. For 2 games hodson had played well. I actually didn't think he had a bad game yesterday considering he gets such little support from yeates or deeney, yet some of the comments in here make him out to be the worst player ever.
johnnyc72, fair play for going to boro but all you're saying is we had some possession and a few corners, are you happy with that return for your days investment?!
You and the other 'clappers' for want of a better word, need to look at the criticism written on here and acknowledge that some very fair and factual comments are made when criticising the current state of affairs at Watford fc, on and off the pitch.
I have no argument with people having a go at the manager, as he is there to manage. To slag off the players, especially the younger ones, sometimes goes a step to far.
However, we are all entitled to our opinion.
Ps. Not a "clapper", just someone who is passionate about our club.
I was impressed with Noz who seems very mobile for a big fella. To many had off games and appeared affected by the diabolical goal decision.
Second half, a lot of possession but no cutting edge and up against Mowbay bully boys we just never looked as though we would score. SD, I'm afraid got it wrong bringing off big Chris as CB didnt seem to be up for the challenge.
Anyway, a couple of weeks off for SD to turn it around...again!
Hornet Cornet
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3:29pm Sun 6 Nov 11
green4
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3:36pm Sun 6 Nov 11
lutondown
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3:40pm Sun 6 Nov 11
Chris the Vic wrote:I have read what you said and I stand by what I said in that we did not deserve to win, and we're lucky we were not out of sight after ten minutes
Lutondown try reading what I said before you say NO.
Given the whole game Boro were better and took the three points.
However, the tackle on Hodson was bad and deserved a card whether it was red or yellow was debatable but it was late , sliding and both sets of studs showing and for me it was a red. The ref, being an idiot kept his cards hidden and liked his own voice.
Down to ten players they would have had problems, that decision allowed Bauben to be ploughed through later in the half and Boro realised the ref was a homer. The goal well enough said but however good Boro were they only scored one dodgy goal.
The officials had huge influence on the game and that is wrong.
As gor GT had he commentated earlier in the day in London, if not then perhaps he needs to consider his position...but then as great a manager as he was for us, he has no qualifications in this day and age to be an executive chairman but as a figurehead I will take him anyday and he is an honest guy.
johnnyc72
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3:45pm Sun 6 Nov 11
garston edl wrote:Garston edl. Would be interested to know your opinion on Mackay? Afterall, this treacherous run dates back long before Dyche was manager. Can't quite remember but something like 4 wins out of the last 20 games last season, even with the Championship's top goalscorer.
Good to have differing views without it getting childish! We're both passionate Watford fans, the fact we are bothering to post on here says that. I will criticise dyche and bassini but I do not on the whole criticise players, with the exception of nosworthy, who on the basis of 3 games has proved me wrong. I even said forsyth shouldnt be booed when he came off against millwall. I write well written, sensible posts, often based on the facts. No 'clapper' on here as ever had a reasoned debate with me about why I want dyche out, or GTs role at the club. All I and others like me get told is we're negative, we've got no money, there's no better managerial options out there, we're punching above our weight. Sorry that's just defeatism. Think about what has happened since dyche was appointed, awful pre season, bad tactics, too many average signings, youth players ignored. Please someone tell me what dyche has done well!!!!!
rousman 2
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4:06pm Sun 6 Nov 11
buckler wrote:Hogg Watford MOM for me.
northofwatfordpete wrote:Hogg was everywhere, what game where you watching? Change your glasses or move on!
Was at the Riverside last night and felt that we played OK but not good enough to beat a decent side. Middlesbrough fielded a side that had no weaknesses and all looked very comfortable on the ball. I think Southampton bullied them off the park the other week and they were not going to let us do that to them in front of their home crowd. Several of our team are short of pace and others get knocked off the ball far too easily. Hogg is a decent footballer with some pace but does not contribute nearly enough. Prince looks the part but faded badly last night. Deeney for all his effort is not physical enough. Marvin went missing again and needs to change his attitude or move on.
Bush Hornet
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4:20pm Sun 6 Nov 11
desk35
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buckler
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5:19pm Sun 6 Nov 11
female wrote:Total and utter Drivel! That weasel aidy has finally gone the whole hogg and become what he always dreamt of being! Hodson is a joke and how Jenkins ever made a pro footballer is beyond me! My head needs a polish female fancy it?
lutondown wrote:Luton down and out you are a disgrace to this forum, young Hodson was fantastic against Brighton and Pererborough where were your comments then, only slag off certain players when thing dont go right. The tackle on Hodson was at the least a yellow if not a red, and the tackle that led to the goal was a foul after watching it a few times the goal was a mile offside. Jenkins was brought on to strengthen the midfield because we went 3 at the back lay off the young players you bald headed muppet. The officials 1 Watford 0Chris the Vic wrote: WFC limp to victory do they WO. Maybe it had something to do with the two studs up tackles that the ref saw but took no action against much to the surprise of the sky commentators. The goal, well as Aidy said, the referees assistant is paid to watch for offsides not follow the game. He failed to do what he was paid for. Not sure Boro didnt deserve the points but should they have had eleven men on the field and should they have that goal counted. In both cases the men in black got it totally wrong and we were cheated. By the way is it just me that cant remember, but has Yeates ever made a tackle whilst playing for us?no Chris the result was a fair reflection We never looked like scoring they did They played football we never Our tactics are insane and ugly Come on before you all attack us so called knockers explain Jenkins substitution to me? Did you think he would change the game? I bet not. And don't get me started on Hodson
cliff46
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10:03pm Sun 6 Nov 11
Hornet Cornet
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10:31pm Sun 6 Nov 11
cliff46
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11:07pm Sun 6 Nov 11
lutondown
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5:32am Mon 7 Nov 11
cliff46 wrote:Hey Cleef so you join the exclusive Granddad club! My congrats to you buddy and your family,
Thank you Hornet Cornet, very much appreciated.
tonupchris
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9:54am Mon 7 Nov 11
cliff46
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10:41am Mon 7 Nov 11
Colin West's mullet
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11:39am Mon 7 Nov 11
Casterbridge wrote:League 1?
If Watford were poor, then by all accounts listening to 3CR, and apart from the opening 10 minutes, Middlesborough were worse - and look where they are in the table. Just one oddity: at the end Nosworthy went forward - and played on the wing with Forsyth in the middle! What was all that about? So let's not be downhearted: 10 points from the next 12 would put us back where we ought to be.
SAHornet
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11:56am Mon 7 Nov 11
cliff46 wrote:No, cliff46, not particularly unreasonable but now would be the time to appoint a new manager. The real difference between your views and mine is just one of timing methinks.
SA hornet
I have previously written that I would stick with Dyche until January. I accept that could be too late but I am not as certain as you are that there are plenty of decent managers eager to come to us.
Even if you are right the way to put some of them off pretty quickly would be to dump the current manager after just 15 games.
I am critical ( but not personally abusive) about some of the repeatedly negative comments on this site. Some of the contributors have been calling for Dyche's departure for several weeks, that surely is unreasonable.
lose
lutondown
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1:59pm Mon 7 Nov 11
cliff46 wrote:your dead right Cleef but knowing you, you'll ban the baby rattle, teach the lad to sit and watch in total silence, trained on puréed prawns!!
Many thanks Lutondown your kind words are much appreciated.
We have got to increase attendances in any way we can!
cliff46
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5:19pm Mon 7 Nov 11
cliff46
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5:34pm Mon 7 Nov 11
lutondown
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6:22pm Mon 7 Nov 11
cliff46 wrote:Lol! But keep him away at from that Cornish Border at all costs, otherwise he will despise all things English, talk dead funny and start eating pasties over prawns (God forbid).
You are right Lutondown I do hope eventually to get him to understand how we upper rous people cherish our peace and quiet.
I do have one huge problem and that is that they live in south devon which means there is the terrible risk of him becoming a Plymouth supporter!!! I just couldnt cope with that.
cliff46
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9:09pm Mon 7 Nov 11
John Howard Norfolk
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3:05pm Tue 8 Nov 11
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hogweed says...
7:31pm Sat 5 Nov 11
Iwelumo is an utter woeful load of rubbish. Sordell did not want to know tonight. We showed no goal threat whatsoever.
The only point of some praise was Loach who I thought did allright.
If things don't improve soon especially our goal threat then........
Hog out