Watford refusing to comment on Dyche departure (From This Is Local London)

COGGDAVE1 wrote:
Early days .. but starting to look like a fiasco ..hope I'm wrong. Hope not sign of things to come !!

CroxleyTandoori wrote:

COGGDAVE1 wrote:
Early days .. but starting to look like a fiasco ..hope I'm wrong. Hope not sign of things to come !!

Hardly the fiasco of Bazzini's takeover.

The club was in a real financial mess until the takeover, If someone with the history with running football clubs of Pozzo and family then I can give them a little slack with regard their first communications. Also sad as it is that Sean has gone if they want their own man so be it.

ruralyellow wrote:
Bit of a shambles! These people need to realise that the club is only as good as it's level of support. I do think they are already testing our patience with their lack of communication/inform

ation. Best wishes to Shaun Dyche, a superb straightforward guy.

Toshhorn wrote:
Guess not everything in place yet.
God this is so frustrating, but I guess we will just have to wait.
I just can't allow myself to believe this is gonna be good.
We have been cra99ed upon so often , can it really be true???
Are we really gonna be a properly run football club again, competing for promotion, finances under control, nice ground etc???am I dreaming?? I have got everything crossed that at last we can be proud again not a laughing stock.
Final mention to Sean.
Thank you , good luck, I'm sure if the fans had a say, you would still be our Manager. Make sure you come back soon so we can all give you the applause you deserve.

Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
Situations like this is why Managers are not loyal to their clubs!

petsoundsnick wrote:
okay, just take stock. The reason why the club is not commenting is because they want to present everything in one go - i.e. Dyche has gone and Zola is here. Dyche would not have gone unless Zola is signed, sealed and delivered. You do not know what final things are happening right now - e.g. getting the quotes right for the press release, getting the photos done etc.

This is a brand new management team, from a different country, who are dealing with the old management team who have lots of contacts with UK media, hence why lots of drip-feeding of information.

Its not unprofessional at all, its just reality when one company takes over another and implements pretty radical structural changes so everyone get a grip, relax and wait to see what happens.

For the record, I think Dyche is unlucky but we have new owners who want to implement a new way of doing things. Rather they do it now than wait until October and make the change then due to "loyalty" to Dyche. Who knows if Dyche would want to work under a DoF anyway? Zola seems happy to do this as its more common in Italy and he did it at WHU.

Surbiton wrote:
peter10531089 says... 11:07am Tue 3 Jul 12 The king is dead long live the little emperor! Maybe Peter 105310898. But some of us are old enough to remember what happened to the last one. He ended up being strung up on a lampost!

Surbiton wrote:
peter10531089 says... 11:07am Tue 3 Jul 12 The king is dead long live the little emperor! Maybe Peter 105310898. But some of us are old enough to remember what happened to the last one. He ended up being strung up on a lampost!

Rookery Veteren wrote:
Club might not be saying anything but 5live is quoting sources close to SD saying he has been sacked. I know new owners are well within their rights to bring in new team for the new project but this doesn't feel right and neither does the way we the fans seem to be well down the list when it comes to revealing what is going on.
Of course I am delighted that solid football people have replaced the previous off-the-wall regime but this isn't a great start.Got to hope the line of communication with the fans will be established as soon as they have their feet under the Vic Rd table.
As for Sean, not exactly a fitting reward for performing minor miracles and converting all us doubters last season. It might be the beautiful game but there is dark side. We have seen it before in the treatment of the likes of Gibbs,Jackett etc.Not sure I will be giving MM and BR any more stick..cant really blame them can you when you see how fickle the club can be.
Good luck and thankyou Sean.Can't help feeling a little championship know how might have been useful but there's not a lot of choice for us now. Just got to hope this lot know what they are getting into. Its a new era and theres no point in not getting behind the new WFC...even if I feel a bit grubby about the way we are treating people who served us well.

stevyweavy wrote:
All speculation by everybody. I have no doubt that Dyche has been kept in the loop and is fully aware of the situation before we were. The staff have only just been spoken to yesterday and it would be unprofessional to be making public statements before they were given the heads up. The Pozzos know Zola well and will have had the opportunity to discuss with Zola prior to the takeover but would probably not have had much opportunity to speak to Dyche prior to the takeover. They have done pretty well with the two clubs they already have both in terms of league position and financially so I for one am not prepared to bad mouth them in advance of the full facts. I hope Dyche does still have a role at the club but can totally understand if the Pozzos have other plans. This was a forced sale as quite clearly Baz had defaulted so we were probably a stone's throw away from administration and here we are now owned by a successful footballing family not some billionaire (or an ex-bankrupt!) that wants it as a plaything for a while only to then toss it aside when he get's bored.

Come on you Horns!

jasonwatford wrote:
I hear pozzo are waiting for Buckler to confirm he is happy with zola appointment.

corbindallas wrote:
Lets put this into perspective, the new owners took over the club on the 29th, today is the 3rd and so far we have had nothing, zilch, zip from them to the English press since then, even the official Watford site only has the confirmation of new owners nothing more, is this good PR from the Pozzo's NO! Even the pre talk from them was disrespectful to SD naming a new manager before the deal was done and that was to Italian media. I am starting to get a tad peed off with this, surely a lot of preparation would have been made prior to let us the fans know what is going on, no instead we hear, statements to the Italian press of what is supposedly going to happen, not how by the way! A meeting was held yesterday and a statement should have been issue forthwith, even a bare with us one, but NOTHING!

akureyri wrote:
All the text of Sean Dyche has gone is early. Until the club tell us one way or another Sean is still the manager.
I can see soon he may not be, but until then...

Colin West's mullet wrote:
be fair - Sean & his agent/lawyer will be negotiating the exit terms. 'sacked' is the wrong word - you can only be sacked for performance, discipline or legal reaosns. He is being replaced, and as such negotiations around his exit package will be more complicated. Therefore it would be imprudent fo any employer to formally announce a departure before the terms of that departure were finalised.

Colin West's mullet wrote:

akureyri wrote: All the text of Sean Dyche has gone is early. Until the club tell us one way or another Sean is still the manager. I can see soon he may not be, but until then...

er, no. Until the club tell HIM one way or another. which, although we don't KNOW this, we can all safely assume, given the press chatter (which is almost never without foundation), that they have. The BBC don't tend to report things they're not sure of, and 'sources close to' generally means the agent.

worthing_hornet wrote:
This is what I think for what little it is worth.

1) bad news sacking SD? Possibly, since he had such a good first season. No guarantee it could be repeated as it depends on players, injuries, funds etc. most of the naysayers were applauding him come the end of the season. Change = worry we know that.

2) GZ a good choice? Who knows these are exactly the same things we were saying about SD this time last year. OK he had an indifferent time with West Ham. He got them up then got sacked when they were in the bottom half and in danger of going down. Think Billy Davies, Neil Warnock and others I am sure. Championship success does not guarantee premiership skills. If GZ gets us up who says we would not also look for a better manager to keep us up.

3) Comms. These things take a while to get sorted. They will tell us when they have something concrete to tell us. Let's face it from day one it has been apparent they wanted GZ for the job so it isn't like we didn't know that. Look at Spurs and Liverpool and even Chelsea. How long was the speculation going on about numerous manager choices with probably no comma to the fans. At least we knew who they wanted. They just have to announce it now.

So am I concerned - yes always a worry at the start of a season as to how will we do. Will I be supporting the team and management - of course they haven't done anything wrong - yet! Will I be booking a ticket for our pre-season match against Udinese. Oh yes! Might as well get an early view of the loan players we will be getting this year!!

Colin West's mullet wrote:
be fair - Sean & his agent/lawyer will be negotiating the exit terms.
'sacked' is the wrong word - you can only be sacked for performance, discipline or legal reaosns. He is being replaced, and as such negotiations around his exit package will be more complicated.

Therefore it would be imprudent fo any employer to formally announce a departure before the terms of that departure were finalised.

corbindallas wrote:
Lets put this into perspective, the new owners took over the club on the 29th, today is the 3rd and so far we have had nothing, zilch, zip from them to the English press since then, even the official Watford site only has the confirmation of new owners nothing more, is this good PR from the Pozzo's NO! Even the pre talk from them was disrespectful to SD naming a new manager before the deal was done and that was to Italian media. I am starting to get a tad peed off with this, surely a lot of preparation would have been made prior to let us the fans know what is going on, no instead we hear, statements to the Italian press of what is supposedly going to happen, not how by the way! A meeting was held yesterday and a statement should have been issue forthwith, even a bare with us one, but NOTHING!

cliff46 wrote:
I expect we wil be loaned a few Udinese squad players and no doubt our manager will be told they have to be in the team.
Can't see that Sean Dyche would ever have allowed anyone else to pick his team, so perhaps better he goes now with a decent pay off than later.
Pressumably Zola is happy to be told who to play!!

not a regular wrote:
The only similarity between Zola and Vialli is that they're Italian and played for Chelsea. Congrats, xenophobes.

Zola brought through youth at WHU.
Zola has managed in the top flight, taking an arguably terrible WHU team to 9th.
Pozzo is in charge of the finances this time.

This appointment is like "either I sack you now, or I wait until you lose a game and then I can sack you". Sure, we love Dyche and all he's done, and the loyalty he's shown to us so far. He's got a year's wages and has left Watford as a legend. If we had lost our first five games this year a lot of you would be screaming for him to be sacked. At least this way Zola has a whole preseason to get us sorted.

Yes, seeing Dyche try to mould a squad with a teeny tiny bit of financial security would have been awesome, but this is what Pozzo has decided. Who knows, if we win our first five games I bet most wouldn't give him a second thought.

Hornet Cornet wrote:
He likes to drink Italian Cola
He's great at the tombola
His middle name ain't Shola
He's our little man Zola

not a regular wrote:
The only similarity between Zola and Vialli is that they're Italian and played for Chelsea. Congrats, xenophobes. Zola brought through youth at WHU. Zola has managed in the top flight, taking an arguably terrible WHU team to 9th. Pozzo is in charge of the finances this time. This appointment is like "either I sack you now, or I wait until you lose a game and then I can sack you". Sure, we love Dyche and all he's done, and the loyalty he's shown to us so far. He's got a year's wages and has left Watford as a legend. If we had lost our first five games this year a lot of you would be screaming for him to be sacked. At least this way Zola has a whole preseason to get us sorted. Yes, seeing Dyche try to mould a squad with a teeny tiny bit of financial security would have been awesome, but this is what Pozzo has decided. Who knows, if we win our first five games I bet most wouldn't give him a second thought.

Bush Hornet wrote:
Apparently Zola has turned us down but the Pozzos are talking to Vialli

Colin West's mullet wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote:
Apparently Zola has turned us down but the Pozzos are talking to Vialli

with 'Arry Basset as Director of Football.

Bush Hornet wrote:

Colin West's mullet wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote:
Apparently Zola has turned us down but the Pozzos are talking to Vialli

with 'Arry Basset as Director of Football.

Yes I believe Bassett is involved

cliff46 wrote:
Colin West's mullet
Firstly we are a very long way from the Prem and secondly when did logic ever apply to football clubs?
We shall probably see which of us is right in a few months.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote:

Colin West's mullet wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote:
Apparently Zola has turned us down but the Pozzos are talking to Vialli

with 'Arry Basset as Director of Football.

Yes I believe Bassett is involved

....First team coach Ray "please don't call me Butch" Butch Wilkins

jasonwatford wrote:
I hear pozzo are waiting for Buckler to confirm he is happy with zola appointment.

Frankie Frazer wrote:
Good luck to dyche he did a fantastic job !! For me i am now looking forward to the italian revolution at the vic ... What do u think the chant for next season will be ? perhaps "giampaolo Pozzos Zola made army" or is it a little to close to the 2 vicarage road messiahs chant ?

jasonwatford wrote:
I hear pozzo are waiting for Buckler to confirm he is happy with zola appointment.

COGGDAVE1 wrote:

Colin West's mullet wrote:
be fair - Sean & his agent/lawyer will be negotiating the exit terms.
'sacked' is the wrong word - you can only be sacked for performance, discipline or legal reaosns. He is being replaced, and as such negotiations around his exit package will be more complicated.

Therefore it would be imprudent fo any employer to formally announce a departure before the terms of that departure were finalised.

Best post for a long time ....

JohnnyHornet wrote:
Seems the Pozzo's have also purchased Baz's PR team, surely they should know that lack of solid information can only lead them into the same hole that Baz found himself in. Come WFC and new owners a statement please !.

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
Lets put this into perspective, the new owners took over the club on the 29th, today is the 3rd and so far we have had nothing, zilch, zip from them to the English press since then, even the official Watford site only has the confirmation of new owners nothing more, is this good PR from the Pozzo's NO! Even the pre talk from them was disrespectful to SD naming a new manager before the deal was done and that was to Italian media. I am starting to get a tad peed off with this, surely a lot of preparation would have been made prior to let us the fans know what is going on, no instead we hear, statements to the Italian press of what is supposedly going to happen, not how by the way! A meeting was held yesterday and a statement should have been issue forthwith, even a bare with us one, but NOTHING!

Stop whining you're on your own on this one, get over it Sbaz is gone

cliff46 wrote:
I expect we wil be loaned a few Udinese squad players and no doubt our manager will be told they have to be in the team.
Can't see that Sean Dyche would ever have allowed anyone else to pick his team, so perhaps better he goes now with a decent pay off than later.
Pressumably Zola is happy to be told who to play!!

Bush Hornet wrote:
Apparently Zola has turned us down but the Pozzos are talking to Vialli

petsoundsnick wrote:

not a regular wrote:
The only similarity between Zola and Vialli is that they're Italian and played for Chelsea. Congrats, xenophobes.

Zola brought through youth at WHU.
Zola has managed in the top flight, taking an arguably terrible WHU team to 9th.
Pozzo is in charge of the finances this time.

This appointment is like "either I sack you now, or I wait until you lose a game and then I can sack you". Sure, we love Dyche and all he's done, and the loyalty he's shown to us so far. He's got a year's wages and has left Watford as a legend. If we had lost our first five games this year a lot of you would be screaming for him to be sacked. At least this way Zola has a whole preseason to get us sorted.

Yes, seeing Dyche try to mould a squad with a teeny tiny bit of financial security would have been awesome, but this is what Pozzo has decided. Who knows, if we win our first five games I bet most wouldn't give him a second thought.

probably the most enlightened post I have ever seen on this site.

jasper1 wrote:
Dont normally post, however just wanted to really thank Sean for an impressive season last year based on how difficult the challenges were. Good luck with the future, and you wont be forgotten

jasonwatford wrote:
OMG...SEEN ZOLA.....BUDD COMING OUT OF THE VIC !!!

buckler wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
I hear pozzo are waiting for Buckler to confirm he is happy with zola appointment.

You've obviously heard about my Italian connections! I'm happy with Zola and Pozzo and have had various meetings to rubber stamp it.

corbindallas wrote:

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

corbindallas wrote: Lets put this into perspective, the new owners took over the club on the 29th, today is the 3rd and so far we have had nothing, zilch, zip from them to the English press since then, even the official Watford site only has the confirmation of new owners nothing more, is this good PR from the Pozzo's NO! Even the pre talk from them was disrespectful to SD naming a new manager before the deal was done and that was to Italian media. I am starting to get a tad peed off with this, surely a lot of preparation would have been made prior to let us the fans know what is going on, no instead we hear, statements to the Italian press of what is supposedly going to happen, not how by the way! A meeting was held yesterday and a statement should have been issue forthwith, even a bare with us one, but NOTHING!

Stop whining you're on your own on this one, get over it Sbaz is gone

You obviously cannot read, shame as you would read what a plank you sound like and understand I am not a minority on the issue of no news. So Dr Oftwat, YOU GET OVER IT! I am quite happy Basinni is gone, I am not hapy at the Pozzo's acting like bozzo's on the PR side, understand!

corbindallas wrote:

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
Lets put this into perspective, the new owners took over the club on the 29th, today is the 3rd and so far we have had nothing, zilch, zip from them to the English press since then, even the official Watford site only has the confirmation of new owners nothing more, is this good PR from the Pozzo's NO! Even the pre talk from them was disrespectful to SD naming a new manager before the deal was done and that was to Italian media. I am starting to get a tad peed off with this, surely a lot of preparation would have been made prior to let us the fans know what is going on, no instead we hear, statements to the Italian press of what is supposedly going to happen, not how by the way! A meeting was held yesterday and a statement should have been issue forthwith, even a bare with us one, but NOTHING!

Stop whining you're on your own on this one, get over it Sbaz is gone

You obviously cannot read, shame as you would read what a plank you sound like and understand I am not a minority on the issue of no news. So Dr Oftwat, YOU GET OVER IT! I am quite happy Basinni is gone, I am not hapy at the Pozzo's acting like bozzo's on the PR side, understand!

Colin West's mullet wrote:
Franco's got receding hair in team photos, stands on a chair He's short & balding, we don't care Franco, Franco Zola

Napalm Pudding wrote:
What a bunch of amateurs! Baz would've been out on the Town Hall balcony with regular half hour updates. He wouldn't have hidden from the press or ignored the fans, he was a bona fide top human being- he will be missed. What do the owners of a Serie A club know about football and PR?!?

jasonwatford wrote:
I hear pozzo are waiting for Buckler to confirm he is happy with zola appointment.

lutondown wrote:

buckler wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
I hear pozzo are waiting for Buckler to confirm he is happy with zola appointment.

You've obviously heard about my Italian connections! I'm happy with Zola and Pozzo and have had various meetings to rubber stamp it.

Buck, welcome back from the Bush, no one here admitting your prediction was correct, but I will.
Your are now officially Mystic Buck, soothsayer extraordinaire!
Can you now magic away the whiners, us new clappers don't need their little Englander mentalities and xenophobic ranting
Ooh I'm loving eet

Hornet Cornet wrote:

Colin West's mullet wrote:
Franco's got receding hair in team photos, stands on a chair He's short & balding, we don't care Franco, Franco Zola

He came from champions Chelsea,
He hasn’t spent a penny or bought a tea,
He likes to dance to songs from Glee,
We love to call him Gianfranco Zeeeeee.

lutondown wrote:

corbindallas wrote:

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

corbindallas wrote: Lets put this into perspective, the new owners took over the club on the 29th, today is the 3rd and so far we have had nothing, zilch, zip from them to the English press since then, even the official Watford site only has the confirmation of new owners nothing more, is this good PR from the Pozzo's NO! Even the pre talk from them was disrespectful to SD naming a new manager before the deal was done and that was to Italian media. I am starting to get a tad peed off with this, surely a lot of preparation would have been made prior to let us the fans know what is going on, no instead we hear, statements to the Italian press of what is supposedly going to happen, not how by the way! A meeting was held yesterday and a statement should have been issue forthwith, even a bare with us one, but NOTHING!

Stop whining you're on your own on this one, get over it Sbaz is gone

You obviously cannot read, shame as you would read what a plank you sound like and understand I am not a minority on the issue of no news. So Dr Oftwat, YOU GET OVER IT! I am quite happy Basinni is gone, I am not hapy at the Pozzo's acting like bozzo's on the PR side, understand!

Corby you sound a Tad angry..I'm sure you'll get over Bas and indeed poor Sean when we start playing beautiful football, in front of a raucous and passionate crowd (sorry Cliff, take ear plugs) Now you gave Dyche and Bas plenty if time to get it together, one out of two coming goodisn't bad, so as the Italians have only been in town a couple of days your lack of patience is a trifle uncorby like!! Evening all

corbindallas wrote:

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
Lets put this into perspective, the new owners took over the club on the 29th, today is the 3rd and so far we have had nothing, zilch, zip from them to the English press since then, even the official Watford site only has the confirmation of new owners nothing more, is this good PR from the Pozzo's NO! Even the pre talk from them was disrespectful to SD naming a new manager before the deal was done and that was to Italian media. I am starting to get a tad peed off with this, surely a lot of preparation would have been made prior to let us the fans know what is going on, no instead we hear, statements to the Italian press of what is supposedly going to happen, not how by the way! A meeting was held yesterday and a statement should have been issue forthwith, even a bare with us one, but NOTHING!

Stop whining you're on your own on this one, get over it Sbaz is gone

You obviously cannot read, shame as you would read what a plank you sound like and understand I am not a minority on the issue of no news. So Dr Oftwat, YOU GET OVER IT! I am quite happy Basinni is gone, I am not hapy at the Pozzo's acting like bozzo's on the PR side, understand!

Hornet Cornet wrote:

Colin West's mullet wrote:
Franco's got receding hair in team photos, stands on a chair He's short & balding, we don't care Franco, Franco Zola

He came from champions Chelsea,
He hasn’t spent a penny or bought a tea,
He likes to dance to songs from Glee,
We love to call him Gianfranco Zeeeeee.

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

corbindallas wrote:

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
Lets put this into perspective, the new owners took over the club on the 29th, today is the 3rd and so far we have had nothing, zilch, zip from them to the English press since then, even the official Watford site only has the confirmation of new owners nothing more, is this good PR from the Pozzo's NO! Even the pre talk from them was disrespectful to SD naming a new manager before the deal was done and that was to Italian media. I am starting to get a tad peed off with this, surely a lot of preparation would have been made prior to let us the fans know what is going on, no instead we hear, statements to the Italian press of what is supposedly going to happen, not how by the way! A meeting was held yesterday and a statement should have been issue forthwith, even a bare with us one, but NOTHING!

Stop whining you're on your own on this one, get over it Sbaz is gone

You obviously cannot read, shame as you would read what a plank you sound like and understand I am not a minority on the issue of no news. So Dr Oftwat, YOU GET OVER IT! I am quite happy Basinni is gone, I am not hapy at the Pozzo's acting like bozzo's on the PR side, understand!

For someone who consistently defended Baz's right not to discuss background, motives etc etc your stance re the Pozzo'ssilence thus far is bizarre. Just accept that you were wrong about Baz and you are wrong about the Pozzos

ruralyellow wrote:
Bit of a shambles! These people need to realise that the club is only as good as it's level of support. I do think they are already testing our patience with their lack of communication/inform ation. Best wishes to Shaun Dyche, a superb straightforward guy.

akureyri wrote:
I agree with many of the postings that the new owners could have made the statement that they are happy to be here etc. but they have not. I am hoping they will introduce themselves and give us, as supporters, an idea of their plan but I do not hold my breath.

ruralyellow wrote:
Bit of a shambles! These people need to realise that the club is only as good as it's level of support. I do think they are already testing our patience with their lack of communication/inform

ation. Best wishes to Shaun Dyche, a superb straightforward guy.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
Blimey. Pretty much perfect statement at this stage of proceedings. Now lets get GZ on board and give him a chance to get a team in place for the start of the season. GZ please sign here => ....................

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Michael Sills wrote:
I have supported Watford since 1960 when I was a young lad, I have seen all the good and bad days this is a bad day in my opinion, I was born in Ricky but now live in the Midlands not sure yet if I will bother going again thats how strongly I feel about Sean Dyches sacking.

Michael Sills wrote:
I have supported Watford since 1960 when I was a young lad, I have seen all the good and bad days this is a bad day in my opinion, I was born in Ricky but now live in the Midlands not sure yet if I will bother going again thats how strongly I feel about Sean Dyches sacking.

buckler wrote:

Michael Sills wrote: I have supported Watford since 1960 when I was a young lad, I have seen all the good and bad days this is a bad day in my opinion, I was born in Ricky but now live in the Midlands not sure yet if I will bother going again thats how strongly I feel about Sean Dyches sacking.

Best you stay and eat your mushy peas in the midlands! Were gonna be enjoying some Italian food and flair, Ciao brum!

jasonwatford wrote:
Buckler is Zola in disguise......he just pretends to run a company in hemel.....

worthing_hornet wrote:

JohnnyHornet wrote:
Seems the Pozzo's have also purchased Baz's PR team, surely they should know that lack of solid information can only lead them into the same hole that Baz found himself in. Come WFC and new owners a statement please !.

Ha ha that would be fab. Actually that's a thought. Capello is still free isn't he?

Hornets number 12 fan wrote:
I find it really distasteful that if that have dispensed with SD's services they can't even announce it on the Watford FC website with a big thankyou for his and his staffs efforts! Courtesty costs NOTHING Pozzos!