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Wycombe District Council fails in bid to keep stadium document secret


COUNCIL chiefs tried to keep secret a passage in a document that has led to questions about whether Wycombe Air Park could be used for a stadium.

Wycombe District Council blacked out a section in the 1965 covenant signed when it bought the site from the Ministry of Defence when asked for it under Freedom of Information rules.

Yet the Ministry of Defence did not black out this section when asked under FOI.

The site is being looked at as a possible location for a new stadium for Wycombe Wanderers and London Wasps.

It says the park cannot be used for ‘noisy noxious or offensive trade or business or for any purpose which may be or become a nuisance damage or annoyance’.

A council statement said: “The decision to redact part thereof was taken on grounds of commercial confidentiality, relative to on-going negotiations with the tenants of the airpark.

“The council and the MOD have different considerations in this matter and the council was entitled to rely on appropriate exemptions in the Freedom of Information Act to protect its own interests.”

And it said: “Whilst covenants can be a hurdle in relation to local authority development proposals, they are seldom insurmountable, in that there are legal mechanisms that allow for the council to apply for the modification or discharge of a covenant in prescribed circumstances, or to over-ride the same subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions.”

It said another provision in the covenant regarding the need to protect ‘light and air’ use at the site is to stop owners of houses Clayhill and Claymoor Park building on their land in a way that ‘would interfere with the use of the airpark land as an airfield’.

Yet Liberal Democrat councillor Steve Guy said: “They are too ready with their marker pen.

“I don’t see how that particular line in the lease affords them commercial confidentiality.”

He said the ‘noisy and noxious’ paragraph could prove a sticking point if the site is chosen for a stadium. This would include a sports village and possibly other businesses and housing.

Cllr Guy said: “People who are not sports fans might regards sports crowds cheering their team on as noisy and noxious – but some people may consider an air park to be noisy and noxious.”

The Information Commissioner, which regulates use of the FOI act, said it could not comment.

It said: “Individuals must make freedom of information requests directly to the relevant public authority. If the request is not answered to the satisfaction of the requester, he/she can ask the authority to carry out an internal review.

“If the requester remains dissatisfied, a complaint can be made to the ICO. The ICO looks into all complaints.

“We do not have the authority (and nor do we seek it) to consider individual complaints about whether authorities should release certain documents, unless people have used the Freedom of Information Act in the way outlined above.”


Comments(32)

Punchy says...
7:21am Fri 19 Mar 10

This passage has not been redacted for any reason of sensitiivity but for the sole purpose of misleading.

Misuse of these special permissions granted by the FOI Act must surely leave someone culpable? Why not pass it on to Thames Valley Police BFP and let them decide?

BigTommy says...
7:51am Fri 19 Mar 10

Of course it was meant to be misleading. There is something very, very dodgy about all of this. We know that Hayes has given present to some councillors - are there any more we don't know about?
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If the stadium plans go ahead mark my words. The whole thing will be controlled by Steve Hayes. Wycombe anderers will NOT be playing there. Only Wasps will use the stadium, except for a few track meets in the summer months.
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One thing to look out for is that a few years down the line Hayes will be given to buy out the whole thing at a knock down price!

muffintop says...
8:10am Fri 19 Mar 10

Why are they hoping to use the track for meet in the summer when they are building an all singing, all dancing track in the grounds of SWR school? Or are they just intending to use it until Wasps Stadium is built and then let it decay into another unusable facility?
If I had any faith before that the Council were working for the benefit of Wycombe it has certainly gone now.

Farmer Pickles says...
8:19am Fri 19 Mar 10

A great bit of work by the Bucks Free Press. The council are never going to please everyone all of the time but surely the very least we can expect is a bit of honesty and transparency.

Welwyn Dowd says...
8:32am Fri 19 Mar 10

All this does is make La Clarke and her "legal advice" look foolish. By covering up something that is readily accessible via a different source it smacks of desperation too. As for the legal opinion of Guy Fawkes...

bequia says...
8:34am Fri 19 Mar 10

One word....FREEMASONRY!

I wish I had held on to my fathers masonry booklets that I found after his death, they listed the local freemasonry leaders...maybe some of these people were listed but I burnt them in disgust....

bequia says...
8:47am Fri 19 Mar 10

Also I know for a FACT that a current 'young' conservative councillor is a freemason member. The 'I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine' just sickens me.

JP80 says...
9:21am Fri 19 Mar 10

Good old proper journalism! Well done BFP
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There is something VERY dodgy about this whole affair

grayghost says...
9:38am Fri 19 Mar 10

see the council are up to their usual tricks. Same sort of thing for the athletics project at SWR school.
For me all these plans are done and dusted before they go to the planning committee.
Still cant believe Hugh McCarthy is still employed after he was caught trying to sway a vote to push the athletics track through.
Just think we are paying waged to these people!!!

pw4691 says...
9:39am Fri 19 Mar 10

This just shows that Wycombe District Council are as straight as a roundabout,

A VOTER says...
9:59am Fri 19 Mar 10

CORRUPT, INEPT, INCOMPETENT, FRAUDULENT, SELF-SERVING, COUNCIL LEADERS!

They should all be dragged before the courts to face trial for thier actions.

Ewartwhatyoubulldoze says...
10:26am Fri 19 Mar 10

The get-out clause in the law is that councils are allowed to keep out of the public domain anything that can be considered 'properly private'. However, their over-riding obligation is to err on the side off open-ness. So they should only keep private things which they MUST keep private due to other statutory obligations (for example personal details under Data Protection Act). You will find that councils at all levels abuse the concept of 'commercial confidentiality' as a way of stifling legitimate opposition / questioning of their plans. It stinks and needs challenging in a court of law to reinforce the spirit of the FoIA. We in Hughenden Parish have just been on the receiving end of something very similar.

THE TOMMO says...
11:40am Fri 19 Mar 10

What a disgrace this council is. Can you imagine one of us using this reason to hide information from the council!!!

But we have learnt something useful from the council when we have planning application hurdles, that covenants used against us are just a hurdle............Co
uncils quote.............

“Whilst covenants can be a hurdle in relation to local authority development proposals, they are seldom insurmountable, in that there are legal mechanisms that allow for the council to apply for the modification or discharge of a covenant in prescribed circumstances, or to over-ride the same subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions.”

One more question........Did the council approach the MOD & ask them to black out the same part?

stephan says...
11:49am Fri 19 Mar 10

dont trust this council thay say thay have no money and need to up your council tax for the second time in a receshion but thay have money to spend on something that only beafits a handfull of people a council tax cut would be beter spending and beafit everyone thay are lieing cheating b----teds and im glad i voted lib dem and in the up and **** election im up for ukip the only way to get this country out of the s--- is in wats the e u done to help you wat hapend to your vote on it the council are as bad as brown lies and more lies

J B Blackett says...
11:52am Fri 19 Mar 10

Quote - "And there were as scales that fell from their eyes". (Acts 9:18)
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We must hurry or democracy will be totally dead in this fragile country of ours.
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All it needs is for good men and women to do nothing ! Blogging on the BFP doesn't count , I guess .
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Good hunting

yog says...
12:39pm Fri 19 Mar 10

These Conservative Councillors are using commercial confidentiality as an excuse to hide facts from the tax payers of Wycombe.

Well they have been caught out big time here.

Perhaps now the Conservatives will come clean over how much was paid to the owners of Curry's for the new access road for the Thames Water site development.

We have a right to know.

Ewartwhatyoubulldoze says...
1:00pm Fri 19 Mar 10

This issue crosses the political divide. It's what happens when Councils think that the electorate will just get in the way of what they deem to be the right decision. It's exactly what the FoIA was designed to address, but has clearly failed to be enforced. A little power is a dangerous thing...

gpn01 says...
1:03pm Fri 19 Mar 10

Don't the covenants also ascribe that the land is an AIRFIELD? Therefore how could its use be changed to a sports stadium?

wayneo says...
1:35pm Fri 19 Mar 10

gpn01 wrote:
Don't the covenants also ascribe that the land is an AIRFIELD? Therefore how could its use be changed to a sports stadium?
Quite!

wayneo says...
1:37pm Fri 19 Mar 10

Also, less the wishy-washy comment in the BFP, Oliver Evans has done himself a lot of credit with this Journalism. We need more of it.

hondo says...
2:02pm Fri 19 Mar 10

Nice investigative reporting.
Keep up the good work Oliver. Truth will come to light.
Any chance of finding out where £M2.5 of ratepayers' money went?

Punchy says...
2:33pm Fri 19 Mar 10

Yes, very well done to Oliver Evans, a good piece of investigative journalism indeed!

Why is it that WDC have such a hard-on for throwing our cash at this stadium? When the press get hold of something like this the parties involved ordinarily back-off and go look at a fresh deal elsewhere, but not this time.

Mr Hayes, you know where the bodies are and have WDC strapped over a pommel-horse, billiard ball in mouth. Now instead of dropping your trousers and doing what we all expect you to do to WDC why not take a step back and think?

How about putting whatever it is you have on WDC into the public domain, see the incumbent council sacked and prosecuted, a grateful newly elected council support your ideas, and win the unswerving support of the local community?

There is actually nothing wrong with a businessman playing an active and central role in shaping Wycombe's future. What matters is the way you do it!

Ewartwhatyoubulldoze says...
4:31pm Fri 19 Mar 10

Politicians love building stuff. It makes them feel that they have achieved something tangible and they get to pose in front of them at the grand opening ceremony

J B Blackett says...
4:45pm Fri 19 Mar 10

In that case how about a powerful Giant Vacuum Cleaner ?

muffintop says...
5:10pm Fri 19 Mar 10

Well done Oliver Evans for bringing this to everyone's attention, now lets hope the National Press can show some interest - I am sure WDC are not the only ones who are employing deceptive tactics to help out their 'friends'.

hondo says...
7:54am Sat 20 Mar 10

Precisely.
Sadly after the PR exercise is over, they find that maintenance wasn't a budget consideration or there was not sufficient provision.
There is just no kudos in maintenance.
Unless of course you can have your photo taken for the press in a reflective jacket watching others fill pot holes.

wayneo says...
2:36pm Sat 20 Mar 10

Spoke with the MOD, assuming that the Morris family and Wetton Aviation didn't saddle the MOD with various covenants :-); while they can't of course comment on an individual case, the prudent Defence estates have informed me that irrespective of whether it be Council or anybody else, they would require a payment to the effect of the MARKET value of land value in order to agree to change any covenant; I can't quite see how they are going to raise money from the sale of the land when they are paying market value. Also, WDC does not own Daws Hill, that's again being sold by Defence Estates and the Bunker appears to not be part of the sale so so far, so good for Defence Estates.

I wonder whether WDC would waste any more of our money on legal fees fighting the MOD if they couldn't agree a substantial price, notwithstanding the above, they have to yet change the GB10 policy, the local framework policies, convince an inspector that the COMMUNITY would benefit and placate those in Lane End, Booker, Cressex, Sands, Frieth, whose lives would be blighted by this monstrosity.

gpn01 says...
11:32pm Sat 20 Mar 10

Does anybody know how to obtain copies of any prior covenants? Would be interesting to learn of any additional constraints regarding the operation of Booker Airfield that were mandated as part of the transfer of ownership to the MoD

wayneo says...
10:35am Sun 21 Mar 10

gpn01 wrote:
Does anybody know how to obtain copies of any prior covenants? Would be interesting to learn of any additional constraints regarding the operation of Booker Airfield that were mandated as part of the transfer of ownership to the MoD
I have them but I'll keep them tucked away for know :-)

lidopraiser says...
2:09pm Sun 21 Mar 10

Well done Oliver Evans and Steve Guy. This Council is up to its usual tricks due to the ambitions of particular individuals rather than the benefit of the town as a whole.

Edgar Brooks says...
1:30pm Mon 22 Mar 10

I'm surprised that nobody seems to be making a connection between the "hidden" passage, and the enormous hike, in rent, that the council are trying to push through. Price the occupiers off the land, hide the fact that it's supposed to be an airfield, and you have a tract of derelict land ripe for development. The laugh is, if Booker closes, and the government continue with their plans to close White Waltham (third runway, anyone?) there's absolutely nothing to stop 747s, 380s, and the like, cutting straight across High Wycombe, on their way to, and from, Heathrow.

wayneo says...
4:00pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Edgar Brooks wrote:
I'm surprised that nobody seems to be making a connection between the "hidden" passage, and the enormous hike, in rent, that the council are trying to push through. Price the occupiers off the land, hide the fact that it's supposed to be an airfield, and you have a tract of derelict land ripe for development. The laugh is, if Booker closes, and the government continue with their plans to close White Waltham (third runway, anyone?) there's absolutely nothing to stop 747s, 380s, and the like, cutting straight across High Wycombe, on their way to, and from, Heathrow.
Completely agree, there is a link as sure as there is a link with WAPAG and the husband of Councillor Mann of Hambledon Parish who is a co-signatory to the section 5 application that WAPAG put forward. WAPAG claim to have the influence of some 'powerful' people, which is quite laughable.

Certainly with people that I have spoken, the Airfield isn't such a bad place after all, even if the third runway didn't get approved, the business traffic from Luton, Norholt and the aircraft from Heathrow, would be able to fly much lower.


The section released by the council The section released by the MoD

The section released by the council

The section released by the MoD



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