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‘Tooled up’ Tamil gangs

7:55am Wednesday 11th June 2008

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Gangs of violent men from Sri Lanka are "constantly tooled up" and "ready to go", according to police.

There have been a number of violent clashes involving groups of Tamil men in Croydon and other parts of south London in recent years.

They culminated in the murder of 28-year-old Prabaskaran Kannan in Tooting last year. He was chased by a group of four men from Croydon who stabbed and slashed their terrified victim 31 times outside a fried chicken takeaway shop.

The chief investigator in the case which became known as the "Chicken Cottage murder" said Croydon's Tamil gangs were causing concern among officers.

Detective Sergeant Mick Snowdon spoke out about the problems surrounding Tamil gangs after five men were convicted of Mr Kannan's murder at the Old Bailey.

The court was told Mr Kannan was heard shouting "It wasn't me, it wasn't me" shortly before he was brutally set upon and killed.

On Monday this week homeless Vabeesan Sivarajah, 22, Aziz Miah, 20, of Sumner Road, Croydon, Asif Kumbay, 20, of Grasmere Road, Purley, and Kirush Nathankumar, 18, of Purley Way, Croydon, were all convicted of murder by an Old Bailey jury. They all denied the charges.

The young men burst into tears after the sentence was announced. A jury of nine men and three women took three days to reach their verdict.

The four were also convicted of causing grievous bodily harm and actual bodily harm to two gang members who were with Mr Kannan that night.

Another defendant, Mayuran Srivinayagam of Greyhound Terrace, Streatham, was cleared of murder and manslaughter but found guilty of assault.

Earlier in the trial a sixth gang member, Mahitharn Ratnasingham, of Lesley Grove, Croydon, was cleared of murder and manslaughter. He admitted assault. The men are due to be sentenced on July 7.

After the men were convicted Det Sgt Snowdon told the Croydon Guardian: "They the gangs are very violent. They are constantly tooled up and ready to go. It is almost like the level of violence is ad hoc. Whatever happens for them happens, and it depends on what weapons they have around."

A businessman who runs a shop in Croydon said Sri Lankan Tamil gangs controlled most of the crime and had the town centre on "lockdown."

Police have always in the past denied there was a problem with the gangs in Croydon, but have now admitted there was a specialist officer dealing with Tamil gang activity in the borough.

A member of a gang who did not want to be named said: "These guys are tough man, they do not care who they hurt or who gets in their way. They ride around in flash cars tooled-up with knives, swords, bats and whatever else they can grab to do damage to a guy."

Detective Inspector Anthony McKeown, from the Met's Homicide and Serious Crime Command, said: "Those who carried out the attack were from a gang of Tamil and other Asian youths from Croydon, who came to Tooting with the express purpose of attacking people whom they saw as members of a rival Tamil gang."


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c may, bromley says...
9:57am Wed 11 Jun 08

why should we have to pay to keep this filth in prison just shoot them problem solved cost tax payers v little

SHIB, CRO says...
1:18am Thu 12 Jun 08

J-TOWn
JAFFNA
Boiz
GUILTY NO

omar, london says...
1:44am Thu 12 Jun 08

Integration eh! a wonderful dream for the liberals! while many do try, our crime stats are now dominated by immigrants, and before you call me paranoid - check out the facts on credit card crime, knife crime, drug trafficking, prostitution and pickpocketing! Labours plan for chaos is working!
And the poor taxpaying mugs are not just victims but are also picking the tab!
genuine immigrants are now being tarred by the same brush because of this governments inept border control and follow up!

Croyboy, says...
8:54am Thu 12 Jun 08

No, Omar, "integration" never was "a wonderful dream": anyone with an IQ in double digits has always known it was going to end in tears - as indeed you've described the situation in the UK today.
Also, we don't need "genuine immigrants", or any other new citizens. We're full up, and in a world rapidly running out of resources and raw materials, the smaller our population the better.

I wonder how long it will take our "representatives" in Westminster to extract their heads from their anuses, and get in touch with reality.

nilooooooooo, CRO---london RD says...
4:59pm Thu 12 Jun 08

dey r da real bwoizzz......none of dem are guilty of murder...dey shud apeal agen......judge chattin ****.... dey r real souljaaaz

taxpayer under attack, chavtown says...
9:52pm Thu 12 Jun 08

nilooooooooo wrote:
dey r da real bwoizzz......none of dem are guilty of murder...dey shud apeal agen......judge chattin ****.... dey r real souljaaaz
Ha! not eeven waaan bwayne-cell to da name bwoy, eezzit!

chavtastic dog dirt - methinks!

Anti-ignorance, says...
2:48am Fri 13 Jun 08

nilooooooooo wrote:
dey r da real bwoizzz......none of dem are guilty of murder...dey shud apeal agen......judge chattin ****.... dey r real souljaaaz
So they're soldiers and 'real'? Well real soldiers kill people. They ARE boys though, men know better than to make the place they live a sh*thole by anti-social behaviour. Why don't you **** off back to Sri Lanka and put all that aggression into proper fighting against the Sri Lankan army - then those terrorists in the LTE won't have to use suicide bombing when they have enough numbers to attack like real men.

WAblo, says...
3:30am Fri 13 Jun 08

No, Omar, "integration" never was "a wonderful dream": anyone with an IQ in double digits has always known it was going to end in tears - as indeed you've described the situation in the UK today.


Yeh yeh yeh, we are crying our eyes out, all over our soggy Daily Mail boo hoo boo hoo!!!, next you will be telling us there will be rivers of blood!


I wonder how long it will take our "representatives" in Westminster to extract their heads from their anuses, and get in touch with reality.


If they are trying to get in touch with your "reality" ,I would say if you are correct about where they have their heads they are looking in the correct place.

Don`t look now the picaninies are coming!
boo hoo boo hoo!

Croyboy, says...
9:21am Fri 13 Jun 08

WAblo wrote
Yeh yeh yeh, we are crying our eyes out, all over our soggy Daily Mail boo hoo boo hoo!!!, next you will be telling us there will be rivers of blood!

1/ Who exactly, WAblo, are "we"?
2/ No, I'm not telling you there will be rivers of blood: there already are, although fortunately they have thus far only flowed from what the media term "black on black" violence.
Let's hope it stays that way, shall we?


inspecta croydon, south says...
9:24am Fri 13 Jun 08

shows how thick our government n feds r. only one of dese mans is tamil u thickooos the other two are pakisatni n one other is bengali so du ur research first. f******* press!!!!

event observer-insiders outside opinion...., UK says...
8:29pm Fri 13 Jun 08

nilooooooooo wrote:
dey r da real bwoizzz......none of dem are guilty of murder...dey shud apeal agen......judge chattin ****.... dey r real souljaaaz
if the judge is chattin **** then who the F*** killed this man? and wtf was the point in this murder....in ur words? It was just attempt for sum ghetto wannab gangster tamil boys to get sum "street credibilty" and "get respect" form the elders. they probably had no idea hu the **** they wer hurting and the wat the repercussions of their actions wud be. From the rumours i heard it wasnt even these kids that commited the crime but they just wont give up the real suspects. There lives are pretty much over now and i have to say i know some of their familys and i just feel sorry for them.....thers so many tamil kids out there that jus need there heds screwed on coz their so fking out of it....(mostly from smoking too much weed)

WAblo, says...
9:55pm Fri 13 Jun 08

"We" are me and my fellow Daily Mail reading comrades, what else?

Rivers of blood? ... hardly , even taking the "black on black" violence into account, we still have a far lower murder rate than they have in Glasgow ,they also have horrendous gang culture problems, and 19 out of 20 of them are white British, so maybe this has more to do with the alienation of the youth in our inner city areas than it has with anything else.


taxpayer under attack, london says...
10:50pm Fri 13 Jun 08

seven seven was our river of blood - and it will happen again because liberalism will have it's way!

WAblo, says...
1:08am Sun 15 Jun 08

If 7/7 was our river of blood , it certainly wasnt the first, the IRA have killed more and caused way more carnage than Muslim extremists, yet I never remember there being any anti catholic feeling in England, like there is anti muslim. Were the acts of the IRA also a result of "liberalism" having its way?

Croyboy, says...
7:54am Sun 15 Jun 08

WAblo wrote:
"We" are me and my fellow Daily Mail reading comrades, what else?

Rivers of blood? ... hardly , even taking the "black on black" violence into account, we still have a far lower murder rate than they have in Glasgow ,they also have horrendous gang culture problems, and 19 out of 20 of them are white British, so maybe this has more to do with the alienation of the youth in our inner city areas than it has with anything else.

The murder rate in Glasgow aside (a city in another country which has its own parliament, and a nation that missed out on Roman civilisation), I'm comparing the situation here in London now, with what it was before - and we certainly didn't have stabbings and shootings as a matter course.

As for "the alienation of the youth", I noticed that you forbore to write "our youth", as the great majority are indeed "alien" in all senses of the word!

Wablo, says...
1:05pm Sun 15 Jun 08

Glasgow is still part of the UK and Britain, they may have had their own government for the last 9 years, but the fact is they are still governed by virtually all the same laws we are in England and UK parliament still pulls the strings, choosing which issues the Scottish government can and can`t decide on. Scotland like England has seen a steady increase in violent and other crime other the last 50 years or so, and as I pointed out 19 out of 20 of them are white British. So even though Scotland hasn't seen the same immigration levels as in England, the crime rate has still risen similarly, and you are 3 times more likely to be murdered in Scotland than you are in England.(Can`t blame that on immigrants, maybe you can blame it on the Romans...or lack of).

As for "the alienation of the youth", I noticed that you forbore to write "our youth", as the great majority are indeed "alien" in all senses of the word!


People with your kind of train of thought just help to make the/our youth of our inner city areas feel further alienated, the same as the youth of Glasgow that may be all white British, but are still made to feel that they have no place in our society, and they react similarly to the London youths.
The rise in the availability and use of hard drugs must surely be the biggest factor in the rise in crime throughout our British cities, don't tell me the immigrants are responsible for this too?
But I think you will find a lot of the major players in the drug importation industry, are white Brits and the pioneers of this industry were certainly white Brits.

TRUTH BE TOLD, chavtown says...
11:42pm Sun 15 Jun 08

You are right woblyo Glasgow has a shocking crime rate too - but stats and facts show that immigrants win the london violent crime comp hands down - and by the way 90% of Heroin imports into london are provided by Turkish gangs - more facts going unchecked by you!
Croyboy has your Naivety beaten....again!

WAblo, says...
4:16am Mon 16 Jun 08

I think you will find I said " a lot of the major players"(not all!) are white Brits, and who do you think enabled the Turks to establish a highly lucrative heroin market in the UK?
The Yardies?
The Triads......Or was it big time British criminals who were moving out of the armed robbery trade due to lengthening prison sentences and advances in technology, these were the people who organised the first major league sized drugs operations, and established the markets, I agree the Turks do control the majority of the heroin trade nowadays ,at the source end anyway, but the Brits were the pioneers.

Croyboy, says...
8:12am Tue 17 Jun 08

Wablo wrote
Glasgow is still part of the UK and Britain...

Unfortunately correct...at least until they - or more hopefully we - are permitted by our betters at Westminster to have a say on the subject. (But don't hold your breath, people!)

...and UK parliament still pulls the strings

Quite: the Scottish-dominated Labour government led by the Scottish P.M. ...But I digress.
You seem to have a strange fixation with Glasgow, Wablo. I can't pretend to understand the reason for that, never having visited the city in question, but I believe it has always experienced high levels of violence (e.g. the razor gangs of the 1920s), so maybe you find it a useful stick to try to beat "People with my kind of train of thought", to misquote you slightly.

You mention the youths of your beloved Glasgow reacting "similarly to the London youths", but this is the point: nine out of ten street crimes where I live (Croydon) are committed by immigrants and the descendants of recent immigrants, and are therefore youths who happen to live in London, rather than "London youths". (If I were living in the Chinese capital of commerce, would that make me a "Shanghai man"? A kitten born in a in a kipper box is not a kipper!)

The rise in the availability and use of hard drugs must surely be the biggest factor in the rise in crime throughout our British cities, don't tell me the immigrants are responsible for this too?

Yes. Three questions for you Wablo:
1/ How serious was the drug problem in London fifty years ago?
2/ How serious was street crime in London fifty years ago?
3/ What was the proportion of Third-World immigrants/asylum-se

ekers/refugees/free-

loaders in London fifty years ago?


Siva, UK says...
3:23pm Sat 19 Jul 08

Why da hell put srilankan tamil for!!! some of them are from pakistan!!! Whoeva put this up shud do their research first properly!!!

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