Road accident leaves Wycombe in chaos
3:37pm Wednesday 4th November 2009 in
A ROAD accident is causing traffic chaos in the centre of High Wycombe this afternoon.
Police and ambulances attended and a man was treated for injuries at the scene. He was later taken to hospital.
A stretch of the Oxford Road has been cordoned off in the West Wycombe direction, from the main roundabout at Eden to the junction with Bridge Street.
The road is open for traffic travelling from the West Wycombe direction into town, but is moving slowly.
Reports say traffic is slow moving in all directions from the roundabout.
Police officers, including a forensic team, are still at the scene and the police helicopter is also in attendance.
More to come.
Comments(37)
hptown
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4:27pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Then...
I was walking back from Bus Station and i was a heilcopter i through i was getting followed by cop and then they turn around and went Downly i think.
hptown
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4:29pm Wed 4 Nov 09
hptown wrote:Sorry typing error i mean "i saw a heilcopter i through..."
i was there and i saw cops everywhere WOW what a busy time, i was coming back from school and i was on the school bus.
Then...
I was walking back from Bus Station and i was a heilcopter i through i was getting followed by cop and then they turn around and went Downly i think.
Boris1
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4:43pm Wed 4 Nov 09
BFP this is a very vague report. What actually happened?
miccles
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5:14pm Wed 4 Nov 09
hope all involved are ok
cowleywebley
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5:14pm Wed 4 Nov 09
chapmani
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5:38pm Wed 4 Nov 09
tomcat
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5:40pm Wed 4 Nov 09
SDJones
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5:46pm Wed 4 Nov 09
deecee01
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6:28pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Earlier in the afternoon the ANPR unit were catching MOT/tax dodgers on the West Wycombe Road - ha ha.
kazza290
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6:39pm Wed 4 Nov 09
kay88
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6:46pm Wed 4 Nov 09
MacBeal
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7:17pm Wed 4 Nov 09
SDJones wrote:From what I understand until the police make their statement local papers are not allowed to speculate...in that case we'll be waiting a while to find out!!
so what is happening now BFP?
lollipop13
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7:28pm Wed 4 Nov 09
lollipop13
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7:30pm Wed 4 Nov 09
lollipop13 wrote:Sorry no.. I heard that the police hit the pedestrian while chasing the van. Who knows.
yeah i heard the same. Didnt look good...
jamie1
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7:38pm Wed 4 Nov 09
btw... have the bfp yet reported the stabbing in lane end at the weekend?
demoness
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7:41pm Wed 4 Nov 09
jamie1 wrote:yeah - really funny. I am sure we are all laughing at your bravery....
maybe it was the police car that was driving through castlefield at 3:10 using its blue lights to get through red traffic lights that crashed. i think maybe it involved a police car- hense the stupid amount of police officers that suddenly appeared - if anyone wanted to commit any crimes in other parts of wycombe i would recommend doing it now as all the police are tied up standing still outside the bus station. i did have fun crossing the road through the middle of the cordened off area ignoring the police officers telling me not too though, poor little police woman come running after me andcaught me when i had got to the other side of the road- "oh sorry i did not realise it was closed off" - lol
MacBeal
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7:49pm Wed 4 Nov 09
jamie1 wrote:Yeah, because the police were again so quick...only 4 hours after it happened!!
i see that bucks free press have finally updated and explained what has happened. although 30 minutes after the offical press release was er... released. good job i dont rely on bfp for my news and can find info out from other sources. btw... have the bfp yet reported the stabbing in lane end at the weekend?
drew1
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8:17pm Wed 4 Nov 09
jamie1 wrote:I hope that, when possible forensic evidence has been removed or tainted by your clumsy great feat tramping through a crime scene, you are brave enough to go to the injured person and his family to explain why the people driving the van got away. Cordons are not put in place for fun, they're are put in place to protect a crime scene, or to protect you, next time, please think about your actions, and the long term effect.
maybe it was the police car that was driving through castlefield at 3:10 using its blue lights to get through red traffic lights that crashed.
i think maybe it involved a police car- hense the stupid amount of police officers that suddenly appeared - if anyone wanted to commit any crimes in other parts of wycombe i would recommend doing it now as all the police are tied up standing still outside the bus station.
i did have fun crossing the road through the middle of the cordened off area ignoring the police officers telling me not too though, poor little police woman come running after me andcaught me when i had got to the other side of the road- "oh sorry i did not realise it was closed off" - lol
FYI any serious road traffic collision scene is treated as a crime scene to enable the best possible evidence to be collected, not just to cause as much hassle for the public as possible!
tomcat
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8:25pm Wed 4 Nov 09
jamie1
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8:46pm Wed 4 Nov 09
i wonder what the van drivers had done to merit the pursit.
jamie1
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8:48pm Wed 4 Nov 09
drew1 wrote:what is a feat ?
jamie1 wrote: maybe it was the police car that was driving through castlefield at 3:10 using its blue lights to get through red traffic lights that crashed. i think maybe it involved a police car- hense the stupid amount of police officers that suddenly appeared - if anyone wanted to commit any crimes in other parts of wycombe i would recommend doing it now as all the police are tied up standing still outside the bus station. i did have fun crossing the road through the middle of the cordened off area ignoring the police officers telling me not too though, poor little police woman come running after me andcaught me when i had got to the other side of the road- "oh sorry i did not realise it was closed off" - lolI hope that, when possible forensic evidence has been removed or tainted by your clumsy great feat tramping through a crime scene, you are brave enough to go to the injured person and his family to explain why the people driving the van got away. Cordons are not put in place for fun, they're are put in place to protect a crime scene, or to protect you, next time, please think about your actions, and the long term effect. FYI any serious road traffic collision scene is treated as a crime scene to enable the best possible evidence to be collected, not just to cause as much hassle for the public as possible!
how could i stop someone getting away when i was at the scene over 2 hours after they actually got away?
drew1
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8:49pm Wed 4 Nov 09
tomcat wrote:Difficult one that, if that was to happen, every driver who wanted to get away from the police, no matter what they had done, would just put their foot down, and disappear. But i'll be totally honest, what is the other option, maybe all cars could be fitted with a device that means the police could remotely shut them off, although I don't think any one would be happy with that.
POLICE PURSUIT'S SHOULD BE BANNED!!
The debate will run on and on, their are already stringent procedures in place which have to be followed by officers, and i'm sure everyone would love to find a solution to the situation, but at the moment, that solution doesn't exist, however, banning outright will open the gates for the criminal element, imagine how you'd feel, "Sorry sir, I realize that car has just driven off from your house with your new TV, the kids PS3 and all your credit cards etc, and yes, we had a car behind it, but when it was asked to stop, they went up to 40 in a 30 and we couldn't follow them"
If you have a better idea, then i'm sure the powers that be would welcome your ideas with open arms.
drew1
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8:53pm Wed 4 Nov 09
jamie1 wrote:Oops. the wonders of spell check, I meant feet!
drew1 wrote:what is a feat ?
jamie1 wrote: maybe it was the police car that was driving through castlefield at 3:10 using its blue lights to get through red traffic lights that crashed. i think maybe it involved a police car- hense the stupid amount of police officers that suddenly appeared - if anyone wanted to commit any crimes in other parts of wycombe i would recommend doing it now as all the police are tied up standing still outside the bus station. i did have fun crossing the road through the middle of the cordened off area ignoring the police officers telling me not too though, poor little police woman come running after me andcaught me when i had got to the other side of the road- "oh sorry i did not realise it was closed off" - lolI hope that, when possible forensic evidence has been removed or tainted by your clumsy great feat tramping through a crime scene, you are brave enough to go to the injured person and his family to explain why the people driving the van got away. Cordons are not put in place for fun, they're are put in place to protect a crime scene, or to protect you, next time, please think about your actions, and the long term effect. FYI any serious road traffic collision scene is treated as a crime scene to enable the best possible evidence to be collected, not just to cause as much hassle for the public as possible!
how could i stop someone getting away when i was at the scene over 2 hours after they actually got away?
If and when the driver is caught, the forensic evidence is vital in court, if you have tainted/destroyed the evidence by walking through the scene, there is always a chance that the case could get thrown out in court, or may not get that far if you've picked up a vital piece of evidence on your shoe and walked it halfway across the town.
wycombewanderer
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10:20pm Wed 4 Nov 09
tomcat
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10:49pm Wed 4 Nov 09
drew1 wrote:Point taken, BUT, what is the value of a human life?
tomcat wrote: POLICE PURSUIT'S SHOULD BE BANNED!!Difficult one that, if that was to happen, every driver who wanted to get away from the police, no matter what they had done, would just put their foot down, and disappear. But i'll be totally honest, what is the other option, maybe all cars could be fitted with a device that means the police could remotely shut them off, although I don't think any one would be happy with that. The debate will run on and on, their are already stringent procedures in place which have to be followed by officers, and i'm sure everyone would love to find a solution to the situation, but at the moment, that solution doesn't exist, however, banning outright will open the gates for the criminal element, imagine how you'd feel, "Sorry sir, I realize that car has just driven off from your house with your new TV, the kids PS3 and all your credit cards etc, and yes, we had a car behind it, but when it was asked to stop, they went up to 40 in a 30 and we couldn't follow them" If you have a better idea, then i'm sure the powers that be would welcome your ideas with open arms.
Besides that, I have had cars vandalised outside my house. I know who did it, and have had items that could have been used as evidence. The police did not want to know!
A device to shut off, or better still, to control the maximum speed of a car would be a good answer, and I believe this sort of device has been on the cards for some time.
People are not happy with lots of things, CCTV and NPR cameras are watching us. People complain, but in the long run they help to reduce crime, or identify criminals.
I try to imagine how I would feel if the police came back to me and said "Sorry sir, I realize that car has just driven off from your house with your new TV, the kids PS3 and all your credit cards etc, and yes, we had a car behind it, but a pedestrian was knocked down and killed, and we had to stop."
CeeCee1
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10:50pm Wed 4 Nov 09
But regardless of who was to blame for the actual cause of injury to the person concerned, if it involved the police 'chasing' a vehicle then surely there was a good reason for this. Personally if I have ever got flashed/pulled over by police (not chased, as no reason to to be) then I have stopped and co-operated. After all if I hadn't broken the law then I would have had no need to floor it to get away!
I was also in Wycombe today & managed to get through the traffic restrictions within 10 mins - but that was at approx 4.20pm so would obviously have got worse later with general build up of traffic.
I just hope the injured person is ok & that they & their family/friends find out what actually happen.
Smithy100
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11:00pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Steve Totteridge Hill
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12:22am Thu 5 Nov 09
Them we can know what the norm is...
demoness
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6:38am Thu 5 Nov 09
I myself was in a near fatal car accident last year when a motorbike came round a blind bend at 50 miles an hour on the wrong side of the road and hit my car head on. Thankfully ( and god knows how) I escaped with nothing but whiplash and shock. BUT forensics looked over both my car and what was left of the motorcycle as well.
BTW he was not prosecuted for dangerous driving but went on one of these safer driving courses - what price a human life eh?
demoness
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6:38am Thu 5 Nov 09
I myself was in a near fatal car accident last year when a motorbike came round a blind bend at 50 miles an hour on the wrong side of the road and hit my car head on. Thankfully ( and god knows how) I escaped with nothing but whiplash and shock. BUT forensics looked over both my car and what was left of the motorcycle as well.
BTW he was not prosecuted for dangerous driving but went on one of these safer driving courses - what price a human life eh?
Boris1
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9:13am Thu 5 Nov 09
I heard it was police who knocked the man down to. Is this right? i like the way todays report fail to menion it was police who knocked the poor guy down.
Jam20
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10:10am Thu 5 Nov 09
As someone who works in the media the term 'critical condition' generally refers to being unconscious/in a coma so I really hope he gets better soon and my thoughts go out to his family.
I know alot of people are speculating as to whether or not the police car hit him but if you look at the other report it says he was injured byt the van. It is the BFP though....
ArnyP_HW
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11:22am Thu 5 Nov 09
cowleywebley wrote:I got there around 5.45 and the police were doing a sterling job of keeping the traffic moving. I believe withoug them, the roads could have been far worse.
THE WHOLE TOWN & SURROUNDING ROADS IS GRIDLOCKED. WE DON'T NEED THE COPS DOWN HERE THEIR JUST MAKING THINGS WORSE!
gatti09
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12:36pm Thu 5 Nov 09
cowleywebley wrote:that has to be the most retarded comment i have EVER read on here, you are certain to win the moron of the year award
THE WHOLE TOWN & SURROUNDING ROADS IS GRIDLOCKED. WE DON'T NEED THE COPS DOWN HERE THEIR JUST MAKING THINGS WORSE!
yeah how dare the police turn up and stop the traffic so a seriously injured man can be treated, how dare they add 20mins onto your journey home !!!
steve63
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2:49pm Thu 5 Nov 09
I really think that some of you should realise that an accident on a major road will cause tail backs grid locks etc. What I wonder is how many of you who actually complain about the Police have tried seeing what it is like on the other side of the fence from there point of few. And how many of you would actually have the fore thought to help rather than hinder. There was a poor man covered over in the middle of the road and all some of you can do is speculate on how it happened. If the van involved had nothing to hide then why run from the police in the first place. Also I think its about time our courts were given more powers to take into account the cost of such an incident and either make the perpertrators pay or add it on to any prison sentence a person or person gets.
And just to add every Police officer that was in attendance was actually involved in dealing with some part of this cowardly deed.
drew1
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8:16pm Fri 6 Nov 09
Boris1 wrote:That's probably because it wasn't the police who knocked him down! Why report what didn't happen?
Sounds nasty. Hope they catch the van
I heard it was police who knocked the man down to. Is this right? i like the way todays report fail to menion it was police who knocked the poor guy down.
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Slacker says...
4:15pm Wed 4 Nov 09
I hope the person is okay.