SIDCUP: Man guilty of murdering Harry Potter actor Rob Knox

This Is Local London: Karl Bishop has been found guilty of murdering Harry Potter actor Rob Knox Karl Bishop has been found guilty of murdering Harry Potter actor Rob Knox

A 22-YEAR-OLD 'habitual knife carrier' has been found guilty at the Old Bailey today of murdering young actor Rob Knox.

Mr Knox, 18, was stabbed five times on May 24 last year outside the Metro Bar, Sidcup.

Listen to the 999 call:

As well as finding Karl Bishop guilty of murdering Mr Knox, the jury also convicted him of wounding with intent against Mr Knox's friends Dean Saunders, Nicky Lee Jones and Charlie Grimley.

Bishop was cleared of wounding Andrew Dormer with intent, but found guilty of malicious wounding.

The jury returned majority verdicts against Bishop on the charges relating to Mr Jones, Mr Grimley and Mr Dormer.

He was cleared of wounding Tom Hopkins with intent.

Bishop, who denied all the charges, will be sentenced tomorrow.

Mr Knox had been running out of the bar to protect his younger brother Jamie (pictured below - Rob Knox left, Jamie right).

This Is Local London: Harry Potter actor Rob Knox (left) pictured with his brother Jamie

Bishop, of Beaver Lodge, Carlton Road, Sidcup, had come to the bar armed with two knives from his kitchen drawer.

The previous week on May 16, outside the same bar, a fight broke out after Bishop accused Mr Knox's friends of stealing his mobile phone.

After the fight, witnesses said Bishop had come back carrying a piece of wood with nails sticking out and goaded the group with the words: "I'm going to come back next week and someone's going to die."

The following week on May 23 Bishop tried to get back into the bar but was turned away.

Outside, he was involved in a fight with Mr Knox and friends before escaping in a car, the court was told.

Later, Bishop confronted and threatened Jamie and one of Rob's friends, Nicky Lee Jones, with the knives.

Before leaving the group and heading to the Metro Bar, Bishop told them: "It's your lucky night - you're not getting done."

The court was read a transcript of Mr Jones's frantic 999 call claiming Mr Knox was in danger.

He had told the operator: “You need to get a police car down here now because otherwise he's had it."

Bishop returned to the bar and stood outside, faced by a semi-circle of angry people.

He was challenging a crowd of people to fight him and was shouting: "Who's going to make my day?" the court had heard.

Friend of Mr Knox, Andrew Dormer, said he punched Bishop when he saw him put the knives away, apparently causing the defendant to pull out the blades again.

During the melee that followed, Mr Knox was stabbed five times, with one fatal wound to the chest.

He was comforted outside the Somerfield supermarket by friend Callum Turner who told him: “You're a doughnut aren't you, getting involved in all this rubbish. It's not worth it is it Rob?"

Witnesses described seeing chairs and bottles thrown at Bishop during the fight.

Bishop was wrestled into a flowerbed and disarmed before police arrived.

Mr Dormer, 17, was stabbed in the chest, while 20-year-old Mr Jones was stabbed in the hand.

Friends Charlie Grimley was stabbed in the face and Tom Hopkins claimed he was stabbed in the head.

Dean Saunders, aged 22, was stabbed in the neck, causing spinal damage, and now uses a walking stick to move around.

Bishop had claimed he was acting in self-defence while giving evidence in court.

He said: “I didn't intend to wound anyone at all but they attacked me."

He said: "There were no other options. They ran at me, attacked me and had me surrounded at one point."

Bishop said: "My intention was to scare people away from me and then as they kept running at me the knife was catching them. They kept running into it."

While Bishop was at Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Woolwich, a small crowd appeared and he shouted: "I don't care how long I go down for, when I get out I'm going to kill you."

He then told a policemen to take him straight back to Belmarsh, a prison he had only been released from in March 2007.

When charged with murder, Bishop had replied: “Yeah, sweet.” PC Reid said Bishop seemed "quite calm" and showed no remorse.

Mr Knox had just finished filming the role of Marcus Belby in the forthcoming film Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. It was his biggest role to date and he had already been signed up for the next Harry Potter instalment.

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4:15pm Wed 4 Mar 09

Virtual-Monster says...

Life for a life.

Karl Bishop should spend the rest of his life in prison. No parole, no chance of freedom, no hope.

He carried a knife with a clear intention to kill or maim.

No matter what he says now, his intention at the time of the incident was clear.

Now he must face the consequences of his heinous crime and hopefully spend every single day of the rest of his life paying for his evil, wicked, heartless actions.
Life for a life. Karl Bishop should spend the rest of his life in prison. No parole, no chance of freedom, no hope. He carried a knife with a clear intention to kill or maim. No matter what he says now, his intention at the time of the incident was clear. Now he must face the consequences of his heinous crime and hopefully spend every single day of the rest of his life paying for his evil, wicked, heartless actions. Virtual-Monster
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5:33pm Wed 4 Mar 09

harry davies says...

This article is very dreary. I've read it several times on the website before.
This article is very dreary. I've read it several times on the website before. harry davies
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5:38pm Wed 4 Mar 09

It's Me again ! says...

Virtual-Monster wrote:
Life for a life. Karl Bishop should spend the rest of his life in prison. No parole, no chance of freedom, no hope. He carried a knife with a clear intention to kill or maim. No matter what he says now, his intention at the time of the incident was clear. Now he must face the consequences of his heinous crime and hopefully spend every single day of the rest of his life paying for his evil, wicked, heartless actions.
Sadly even if he gets life he will be out in a few years, even if its 25yrs recommended i doubt he will do the full 25!

We need to come into line with USA where life means life !

anyway i am please he has been found guilty, hope he rots in jail
[quote][p][bold]Virtual-Monster[/bold] wrote: Life for a life. Karl Bishop should spend the rest of his life in prison. No parole, no chance of freedom, no hope. He carried a knife with a clear intention to kill or maim. No matter what he says now, his intention at the time of the incident was clear. Now he must face the consequences of his heinous crime and hopefully spend every single day of the rest of his life paying for his evil, wicked, heartless actions. [/p][/quote]Sadly even if he gets life he will be out in a few years, even if its 25yrs recommended i doubt he will do the full 25! We need to come into line with USA where life means life ! anyway i am please he has been found guilty, hope he rots in jail It's Me again !
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5:42pm Wed 4 Mar 09

croc1967 says...

What a relief that the jury saw through this murderer's lie ,lets hope the sentence is the heavest ever for this vile piece of work.now the trial is over i wonder if the commentors who commented on this website imidiately after the tragic death of rob slagging of the metro bar staff and customers will say sorry for their sad comments after the trial cleared us of all wrong doing. my staff& customers were the first contact for first aid that night and the bravery shown by all is understated, the death threats that were sent to my wife and I were disgraceful including the comment on here of one person who said 'burn the place down with them in it'I praise all my staff ,door staff and Lovable unforgetable customers during a testing time.
What a relief that the jury saw through this murderer's lie ,lets hope the sentence is the heavest ever for this vile piece of work.now the trial is over i wonder if the commentors who commented on this website imidiately after the tragic death of rob slagging of the metro bar staff and customers will say sorry for their sad comments after the trial cleared us of all wrong doing. my staff& customers were the first contact for first aid that night and the bravery shown by all is understated, the death threats that were sent to my wife and I were disgraceful including the comment on here of one person who said 'burn the place down with them in it'I praise all my staff ,door staff and Lovable unforgetable customers during a testing time. croc1967
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6:22pm Wed 4 Mar 09

It's Me again ! says...

croc1967 wrote:
What a relief that the jury saw through this murderer's lie ,lets hope the sentence is the heavest ever for this vile piece of work.now the trial is over i wonder if the commentors who commented on this website imidiately after the tragic death of rob slagging of the metro bar staff and customers will say sorry for their sad comments after the trial cleared us of all wrong doing. my staff& customers were the first contact for first aid that night and the bravery shown by all is understated, the death threats that were sent to my wife and I were disgraceful including the comment on here of one person who said 'burn the place down with them in it'I praise all my staff ,door staff and Lovable unforgetable customers during a testing time.
And i bet it isnt long before Karls friends are on here saying there has been a miscarriage of justice and what a brillaint person he is !!
[quote][p][bold]croc1967[/bold] wrote: What a relief that the jury saw through this murderer's lie ,lets hope the sentence is the heavest ever for this vile piece of work.now the trial is over i wonder if the commentors who commented on this website imidiately after the tragic death of rob slagging of the metro bar staff and customers will say sorry for their sad comments after the trial cleared us of all wrong doing. my staff& customers were the first contact for first aid that night and the bravery shown by all is understated, the death threats that were sent to my wife and I were disgraceful including the comment on here of one person who said 'burn the place down with them in it'I praise all my staff ,door staff and Lovable unforgetable customers during a testing time.[/p][/quote]And i bet it isnt long before Karls friends are on here saying there has been a miscarriage of justice and what a brillaint person he is !! It's Me again !
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7:25pm Wed 4 Mar 09

Pete Beat says...

croc1967 wrote:
What a relief that the jury saw through this murderer's lie ,lets hope the sentence is the heavest ever for this vile piece of work.now the trial is over i wonder if the commentors who commented on this website imidiately after the tragic death of rob slagging of the metro bar staff and customers will say sorry for their sad comments after the trial cleared us of all wrong doing. my staff& customers were the first contact for first aid that night and the bravery shown by all is understated, the death threats that were sent to my wife and I were disgraceful including the comment on here of one person who said 'burn the place down with them in it'I praise all my staff ,door staff and Lovable unforgetable customers during a testing time.
Well said
However if you are passing your bar with a trolley load of shopping, it is to say the very least an awful experience.

RIP Rob
[quote][p][bold]croc1967[/bold] wrote: What a relief that the jury saw through this murderer's lie ,lets hope the sentence is the heavest ever for this vile piece of work.now the trial is over i wonder if the commentors who commented on this website imidiately after the tragic death of rob slagging of the metro bar staff and customers will say sorry for their sad comments after the trial cleared us of all wrong doing. my staff& customers were the first contact for first aid that night and the bravery shown by all is understated, the death threats that were sent to my wife and I were disgraceful including the comment on here of one person who said 'burn the place down with them in it'I praise all my staff ,door staff and Lovable unforgetable customers during a testing time.[/p][/quote]Well said However if you are passing your bar with a trolley load of shopping, it is to say the very least an awful experience. RIP Rob Pete Beat
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7:47pm Wed 4 Mar 09

Moi says...

Two words. Scum & bag.
Two words. Scum & bag. Moi
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7:57pm Wed 4 Mar 09

junie says...

thinking of you all, hope he rots in hell god bless you rob.

heavens gates were open wide,
for this angel to walk inside.
thinking of you all, hope he rots in hell god bless you rob. heavens gates were open wide, for this angel to walk inside. junie
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9:47pm Wed 4 Mar 09

sel61 says...

This person is scum. I was so shocked when I heard what had happened. My thoughts are with Rob's family.

Hope he rots in hell. ****.
This person is scum. I was so shocked when I heard what had happened. My thoughts are with Rob's family. Hope he rots in hell. ****. sel61
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9:02am Thu 5 Mar 09

akp1948 says...


Guilty As charged but who pays now: THE SOCIETY CALLED THE TAX-PAYER

The comfort of prison looked on by the criminals of today,
When Karl Bishop was told he was being charged with Mr Knox's murder his response was (yeah sweet),
Pc Craig said: There was no real reaction to being told that he was being arrested for for murder.
There didn't appear to be any remorse.
But he was angry about missing the Hatton fight,
Bishop also said take me to Belmarsh prison, i don't mind,
I get gym every day, meals, just take me there.

That's the typical attitude of today's criminals.

TO A VAST NUMBER OF OFFENDERS PRISON IS NO LONGER SEEN AS REHABILITATION CENTER OR A DETERRENT

Is there another way YES

Criminals of today make it very clear that they don't want to live within the rules of a civilised society,
BUT WHAT THEY DO WAN'T
Is to have all the benefits and comforts that a civilised society has to offer,
IT'S TIME TO TAKE THESE BENEFITS & COMFORTS AWAY,

No crime is victim-less why should society have to bare the costs now in £billions as in:
1) Legal fees (let them & their families form their own defence) if their not very good at it tough luck
2) The cost of looking after them in Prison (don't put them in prison) see below

How to deal with today's convicted felons
A 12 month prison sentence should be changed to a 12 month put out of society sentence
Example: Of a 12 month out of society sentence
1) They should be implanted with an electronic tracking device
2) They should then be transported to remote area's of uninhabited land masses or island's (1? square miles per prisoner)
3) They should be given a manual on how best to cope in the environment there sent to
4) They should be given limited DIY tools to help them make their stay more comfortable (if they want to)
5) They should be given a limited amount of dried food & bottled water to suit their sentenced time
6) When their sentence has been served, they can have another try at joining in with society
Guilty As charged but who pays now: THE SOCIETY CALLED THE TAX-PAYER The comfort of prison looked on by the criminals of today, When Karl Bishop was told he was being charged with Mr Knox's murder his response was (yeah sweet), Pc Craig said: There was no real reaction to being told that he was being arrested for for murder. There didn't appear to be any remorse. But he was angry about missing the Hatton fight, Bishop also said take me to Belmarsh prison, i don't mind, I get gym every day, meals, just take me there. That's the typical attitude of today's criminals. TO A VAST NUMBER OF OFFENDERS PRISON IS NO LONGER SEEN AS REHABILITATION CENTER OR A DETERRENT Is there another way YES Criminals of today make it very clear that they don't want to live within the rules of a civilised society, BUT WHAT THEY DO WAN'T Is to have all the benefits and comforts that a civilised society has to offer, IT'S TIME TO TAKE THESE BENEFITS & COMFORTS AWAY, No crime is victim-less why should society have to bare the costs now in £billions as in: 1) Legal fees (let them & their families form their own defence) if their not very good at it tough luck 2) The cost of looking after them in Prison (don't put them in prison) see below How to deal with today's convicted felons A 12 month prison sentence should be changed to a 12 month put out of society sentence Example: Of a 12 month out of society sentence 1) They should be implanted with an electronic tracking device 2) They should then be transported to remote area's of uninhabited land masses or island's (1? square miles per prisoner) 3) They should be given a manual on how best to cope in the environment there sent to 4) They should be given limited DIY tools to help them make their stay more comfortable (if they want to) 5) They should be given a limited amount of dried food & bottled water to suit their sentenced time 6) When their sentence has been served, they can have another try at joining in with society akp1948
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4:02pm Thu 5 Mar 09

meme6 says...

akph1948,eltham - unfortunately i fell asleep before i got to the end of your speech
akph1948,eltham - unfortunately i fell asleep before i got to the end of your speech meme6
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12:14am Fri 6 Mar 09

AR2048 says...

"No crime is victim-less why should society have to bare the costs now in £billions as in: 1) Legal fees (let them & their families form their own defence) if their not very good at it tough luck"

The reason is not everyone who is charged and prosecuted is actually guilty, the evidence against defendants must be properly tested in court.

Not saying that our adversarial system allows full and proper testing of evidence though.
"No crime is victim-less why should society have to bare the costs now in £billions as in: 1) Legal fees (let them & their families form their own defence) if their not very good at it tough luck" The reason is not everyone who is charged and prosecuted is actually guilty, the evidence against defendants must be properly tested in court. Not saying that our adversarial system allows full and proper testing of evidence though. AR2048
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11:40am Fri 6 Mar 09

New Eltham says...

i was unfortunate to go to school with this scum and he was the same there. In primary school he would starts fights and cause arguements. he would chuck charis at teachers and other people. He eventually got expelled for bullying a girl to the point where she didnt want to come to school anymore. On the last day of school him, his mum and his mums friends come to the school while we were outside saying our goodbyes and egged our head teacher and called her names. What sort of mum does that to encourage her child. His younger brother is all a runt, the whole family make me sick. He should have never been let out early for his previous attack on 2 men. He should never come out of prison if i did ever see karl i would turn and run the other way, his one man or boy that you just wouldnt want to get into an arguement with as you can see by his actions with poor rob knox. Hope he rot inside and i hope his mum is disgusted in herself and him. RIP R.Knox
i was unfortunate to go to school with this scum and he was the same there. In primary school he would starts fights and cause arguements. he would chuck charis at teachers and other people. He eventually got expelled for bullying a girl to the point where she didnt want to come to school anymore. On the last day of school him, his mum and his mums friends come to the school while we were outside saying our goodbyes and egged our head teacher and called her names. What sort of mum does that to encourage her child. His younger brother is all a runt, the whole family make me sick. He should have never been let out early for his previous attack on 2 men. He should never come out of prison if i did ever see karl i would turn and run the other way, his one man or boy that you just wouldnt want to get into an arguement with as you can see by his actions with poor rob knox. Hope he rot inside and i hope his mum is disgusted in herself and him. RIP R.Knox New Eltham
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