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8:38am Tuesday 18th December 2007
Illegal immigrants are being kept in inadequate holding rooms at Heathrow and subjected to "dehumanising" treatment, the prisons watchdog says.
Prisons chief inspector Anne Owners said her teams had watched as a detainee was told he did not need lost shoes in the hot country he was being sent to, while another suffered an offensive confrontation with staff.
Inspectors toured the holding rooms on an spot check in October after finding shortcomings during their last visit two years earlier.
Heathrow's four terminals have rooms to temporarily hold suspected illegal immigrants spotted entering the country.
Another set of rooms is used for people put on flights out of Britain.
Of the hundreds of people passing through the units each month with most held for a few hours. Some detainees have been held for more than 24 hours.
Ms Owers said there had been some "limited improvements" since the last visit.
She said inspectors had seen staff using "dehumanising" language, including calling detainees "bodies" in "pens", while children and women were being held in the same rooms as men they did not know.
Border and Immigration Agency chief executive Lin Homer said the facilities had been improved since the inspection and further staff training introduced.
Gerald, Mitcham says...
9:06am Tue 18 Dec 07
ron, london says...
10:04am Tue 18 Dec 07
Ricky, Sheen says...
10:09am Tue 18 Dec 07
Croyboy, says...
10:22am Tue 18 Dec 07
riche, battersea says...
11:29am Tue 18 Dec 07
Den, Wallington says...
12:14pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Jess, margate says...
2:27pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Den wrote:hey, to b fair some of these people come from reaaly hard back grounds y shpouldnt they get speshial treatment for gods sake they desirve it. y should us Brits get it all
I agree, if they are illegal then they shouldn't be given any special treatment. Just put them on the next flight back to where they came from. How long before some do gooder comes on and tells us we are all being racist?
jess, margate says...
2:33pm Tue 18 Dec 07
kate, margate says...
3:28pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Jonners wrote:i agree.I must admit in my collage their are LODS OF CHECKS and i would say at least 94% of them arwe rude arragont bursteds who think they rule the place thier tossers and shgould be sent back
I think the key word here is \"illegal\". They have no right to be here and cost the national lots of money to deport them. I am sick of this softly, softly approach, if we took a tougher stance on immigration it would deter people from coming and freeloading off the country.
Kate, margate says...
3:30pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Jock, London says...
3:35pm Tue 18 Dec 07
jess wrote:Another fine example of the education system, but I understand English teaching isn't what it used to be.
And dont go callin me a GOOGDER i can c wat u r sayin but we av everything, i mean wat cind of crimbo r they gunna have ??? so for gods sake cut um some slack, they must of been desprate to do it anywat
jessie, margate says...
3:51pm Tue 18 Dec 07
jessie, margate says...
3:58pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Jock, London says...
4:07pm Tue 18 Dec 07
jessie wrote:If they ever make you a doctor, I shall complain to the Medical Council =P
To Jock sorry if my last e-mail seemed kind of Harsh it justs makes me mad that u think you have more right to be hear just becouse u can afford too! i was raised by the state and now im heading to Uni next year! im just saying i was poor yet now im going to uni to be a doctor!
Jessie, margate says...
4:27pm Tue 18 Dec 07
kate, margate says...
4:29pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Jock, London says...
4:37pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Jessie wrote:More assumptions!
How dear you speak 2 me like that! i sais i was sorry for calling you arrogont and you say i sshouldnt b a doctor! i ask myself y that is and i think its becouse ur jelouse! i mean some one like you being an actor in what......a slezy **** film is all yourd b in if that! i dont know y u have such a high cummond of england when, most of england is full of concil estats, benfits and thugs so fuckl u!
Jonners, London says...
5:14pm Tue 18 Dec 07
ubique, london says...
7:11pm Tue 18 Dec 07
ubique, london says...
7:14pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Geoff, Sutton says...
9:52pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Den, Wallington says...
10:00pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Jess wrote:"Dr". Jess. (God help us if you ever become one). What about the British people that have a hard time in our country? If the illegal immigrants have a hard time it really isn't our problem. I agree with Geoff from Sutton if we didn't spend so much money on these immigrants then we could plough more money into our own peoples needs. I hope you can understand this as I don't think I have made any spelling mistakes.
Den wrote: I agree, if they are illegal then they shouldn\'t be given any special treatment. Just put them on the next flight back to where they came from. How long before some do gooder comes on and tells us we are all being racist?hey, to b fair some of these people come from reaaly hard back grounds y shpouldnt they get speshial treatment for gods sake they desirve it. y should us Brits get it all
Geoff, Sutton says...
10:16pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Billy, Streatham Hill says...
10:32pm Tue 18 Dec 07
ubique, london says...
11:07pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Billy wrote:Your right Billy! I tell you what...you write to the Home Office and tell them you will take in half a dozen into your own home and you will vouch for them as they are only human beings desperate to integrate into our society and contribute. Was it Billy or Silly Billy? M8 do gooders like you have destroyed this country. Wheres my rights for my sons and daughters and grand kids to grow in the England I knew and the benefits I and my father and my grandfather and great grandfather paid into and built? No council house for any of mine. Angry? You betcha! Bet you vote labour eh Billy!?
Totally disgusted at the spiteful, hate-filled comments from so-called 'British' people here. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
The people who are being held in pens are human beings, who have hopes, dreams, fears and tribulations just like everyone else. The Jews received the same treatment in Germany - I can see now that people will be quite happy to persecute others because they are 'different'.
lilly, croydon says...
11:11pm Tue 18 Dec 07
roger, chavtown says...
11:16pm Tue 18 Dec 07
AEC, USA says...
11:48pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Den, Wallington says...
12:18am Wed 19 Dec 07
Dennis, The Colonies says...
6:25am Wed 19 Dec 07
Croyboy, says...
8:51am Wed 19 Dec 07
Billy wrote:Oh, dear: it doesn't take long for the "let 'em all in" brigade to stick a reefer in their mouths, sit down at a computer, and pick out an answer, does it?
Totally disgusted at the spiteful, hate-filled comments from so-called 'British' people here. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
The people who are being held in pens are human beings, who have hopes, dreams, fears and tribulations just like everyone else. The Jews received the same treatment in Germany - I can see now that people will be quite happy to persecute others because they are 'different'.
annoyed!!!, says...
10:08am Wed 19 Dec 07
jessie, margate says...
10:54am Wed 19 Dec 07
ubique wrote:yer thanks Godder!
Jessie, You have more chance of becoming a Dr than I have of winning the lottery this week and next week and the week after. And if you are at or going to Uni then that confirms to me that this traitorous Government have watered down the Education System since my time. Your an uneducated prat! And I bet you've never done a days work in your life therefore not paid taxes just sponged like the people your defending here. My suspicion anyway is you've only been here a short while yourself hence your crap command of the language and defence of imigrants leagl or otherwise.
jessie, margate says...
11:38am Wed 19 Dec 07
ubique wrote:for your infomation i was born in gilford surry and all my family are english!
Jessie, You have more chance of becoming a Dr than I have of winning the lottery this week and next week and the week after. And if you are at or going to Uni then that confirms to me that this traitorous Government have watered down the Education System since my time. Your an uneducated prat! And I bet you've never done a days work in your life therefore not paid taxes just sponged like the people your defending here. My suspicion anyway is you've only been here a short while yourself hence your crap command of the language and defence of imigrants leagl or otherwise.
Ricky, sheen says...
11:53am Wed 19 Dec 07
Tigs, says...
12:03pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Tigs, says...
12:05pm Wed 19 Dec 07
jessie, margate says...
12:08pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Ricky wrote:why do you feel the need to b so horrable?
Jessie said "...my mother is a single perant who is a dinner -lady but yes we do get some benfets ff the state " How do you even manage to complete the forms? And university applications? Forget it.
jessie, margate says...
12:10pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Tigs wrote:Thankyou Tigs
Good for you Jessie that you have such high aspirations at such a young age! I wish I had known what I wanted to do then! Good luck with going to Uni as I guess doctors spelling things correctly is not such a requirement. I think you might find out differently but then again you may be typing in this way for speed or because you can't be bothered to think to spell things correctly. Bear in mind that you will have many essays and papers to write throughout your time at Uni and will be marked down for any unintelligible words or sentences you type. I know doctor's handwriting is just scrawl on prescriptions but it doesn't mean that they started off with bed spelling and grammar. That is something that seems to be more and more lacking in the posts I read. It makes me embarrassed as to what level some of you left your education at!!! Before anyone says it I am not someone who went to Uni myself nor an old person! Just someone who cares that the English Language is not cared about anymore. We seem to have developed into this gutteral urban speak, gangster type slang or text speak. I do use that myself for texts but only as it saves time!!!! Completely off the subject I know but I just get sick of getting a headache when I read things like Godder's. It must have taken longer to type it like that than the normal way!!! I do still wish you luck though Jessie. We don't have enough home grown doctors after all. Getting back to the subject, a high percentage are immigrants!
Ely, Leytonstone says...
12:16pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Tigs, says...
12:27pm Wed 19 Dec 07
jessie, margate says...
12:35pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Ely wrote:thankyou but can i just say my wrighting is called SLAND AND IT SAVES TIME TO WRIGHT LIKE THIS
What the hell is this thread about, the article just talks about the detention cells, it states quite clearly that most people are turned around in a matter of hours. It doesn't suggest illegal immigrant should stay in the country. It a very simple situation, illegal immigrant have no business being in the country so should be put on a plane back to there country of origin.. and for the most part at the airports this happens. What makes Great Britain such a decent place to live is our professional and civilised way of behaving, the British are traditional polite and courteous and treat people with respect. That means If some one has arrived here illegally its down to us to remove them. They have committed a legal crime not a moral one. This is a great country and I can understand why people want to live here. Some of the posts in this thread are pretty much saying its acceptable for people to be treated like animals. Jessie clearly has an issue with her written English and Jess dear it something you really need to work on because as you get older its becomes much more important. At least the girls having a go at expressing an opinion, ridiculing her it pretty **** low, especially since I suspect allot of your a much older than her. Like many discussion about the issue of immigration, legal and illegal get used interchangeably. As sooner as someone starts trying to discuss the matter reasonably there labelled with a 'control' word. What a mess.
jessie, margate says...
12:37pm Wed 19 Dec 07
annoyed!!! wrote:shut up! wat about all us brits that r always maki ng troble???
The quicker they get them out them better!!! They do nothing but cause hatred in this country & it makes me sick that they get housed and bennifits from good hard working people that have to pay their bloody taxes!!!! All they do is come into this country, ponse money and turn into bloody drug dealers!
jessie, margate says...
12:39pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Tigs wrote:I agree its shocking, but im not like that i can spell it just saves time 2 wright in slang!
Well Ely I hate to tell you this but your English isn't all that either! Also it has nothing to do with age but a lot to do with whether kids are being taught well or are actually interested in learning in the first place. I have watched a report on the telly recently that said 70% of kids leaving school now cannot read or write properly. I'm sorry but that is just shameful. In lots of areas it is because there are classes with many immigrant children in. Please do not get defensive at this as it was something I watched and I do not wish to be labelled a bigot as I am not one! On the other hand I watched a news report last night that said 2 thirds of manual labour is now done by immigrants in this country (skilled workers) and that our economy is booming so god knows what to believe!!
Ely, Leytonstone says...
12:40pm Wed 19 Dec 07
jessie, margate says...
12:44pm Wed 19 Dec 07
ubique, london says...
2:02pm Wed 19 Dec 07
annoyed!!!, says...
2:06pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Tigs, says...
2:50pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Gene Hottinger, Mpls. Minnesota USA says...
4:21pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Daniel, Essex says...
4:23pm Wed 19 Dec 07
ubique wrote:LOL!!! :D
Jessie, I suspect your ambition is University but because you cannot spell it lucky for you people call it Uni. Anyway I'm sure there will be a place for you somewhere in a university somewhere. I'm sure they need a dinner lady somewhere and you can follow in your mums footsteps. Avoid chalking the menu though and leave that to someone else. We don't want student walking around like they are Bulimic as they can never decipher the menu and go home hungry. Another note to self....in future if i see a lady Dr and if her name is Jessie I will ask her to write down what University she attended and if she writes 'dis is d uni i wnt 2' I'm going to go home and resort to an aspirin and the will of God. Incidentally isn't slag supposed to shorten things? Why is wright shorter than write?? Well at least your Dr funny ha ha as you give us a prescription of laughter every time you hit your keypad. I do feel sorry for you though. It must be hard in the life of Jessie surrounded by all these intellectuals who want Dr's who can spell.
Billy, Streatham Hill says...
10:30pm Wed 19 Dec 07
ubique wrote:Where do I start?
Billy wrote:Your right Billy! I tell you what...you write to the Home Office and tell them you will take in half a dozen into your own home and you will vouch for them as they are only human beings desperate to integrate into our society and contribute. Was it Billy or Silly Billy? M8 do gooders like you have destroyed this country. Wheres my rights for my sons and daughters and grand kids to grow in the England I knew and the benefits I and my father and my grandfather and great grandfather paid into and built? No council house for any of mine. Angry? You betcha! Bet you vote labour eh Billy!?
Totally disgusted at the spiteful, hate-filled comments from so-called \'British\' people here. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
The people who are being held in pens are human beings, who have hopes, dreams, fears and tribulations just like everyone else. The Jews received the same treatment in Germany - I can see now that people will be quite happy to persecute others because they are \'different\'.
David Simpson, Heckmondwicke says...
11:19pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Anon, London says...
5:11pm Thu 20 Dec 07
jessie wrote:16 year olds do not go to university as you would not have the required A levels to get onto a course (unless they were seriously intelligent - which from you ramblings I can see that you are not).
Ricky wrote: Jessie said \"...my mother is a single perant who is a dinner -lady but yes we do get some benfets ff the state \" How do you even manage to complete the forms? And university applications? Forget it.why do you feel the need to b so horrable? for your info if you are studing at a degree or deploma for the NHS then its free and i can pay back when im working, at least im doing something unlike most 16 year olds!
ani, Essex says...
3:07am Fri 21 Dec 07
Jo, says...
1:16pm Thu 27 Dec 07
jess wrote:Could someone translate this, I don't speak gibberish.
And dont go callin me a GOOGDER i can c wat u r sayin but we av everything, i mean wat cind of crimbo r they gunna have ??? so for gods sake cut um some slack, they must of been desprate to do it anywat
Al, says...
1:18pm Thu 27 Dec 07
jessie wrote:Have you been forgetting to take your medication again. You seem to be halucinating again.
To Jock sorry if my last e-mail seemed kind of Harsh it justs makes me mad that u think you have more right to be hear just becouse u can afford too! i was raised by the state and now im heading to Uni next year! im just saying i was poor yet now im going to uni to be a doctor!
carrie, kent says...
7:07pm Fri 4 Jan 08
kerby, says...
11:23pm Sun 13 Jan 08
Ani, essex says...
9:18am Tue 29 Jan 08
carrie wrote:Exactly..what is it now for our older generation? `Heat or Eat`.. majority can`t afford to do both!
I say we should send them all back as soon as possible to save the tax payers money. These people have no right to be here in the first place. I agree that they might not want to come here if we were not such an easy touch. The money used on these people should be used to help English people after all there are pleanty of them suffering but who gives a toss about them?
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Jonners, London says...
8:59am Tue 18 Dec 07