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8:38am Tuesday 18th December 2007

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Illegal immigrants are being kept in inadequate holding rooms at Heathrow and subjected to "dehumanising" treatment, the prisons watchdog says.

Prisons chief inspector Anne Owners said her teams had watched as a detainee was told he did not need lost shoes in the hot country he was being sent to, while another suffered an offensive confrontation with staff.

Inspectors toured the holding rooms on an spot check in October after finding shortcomings during their last visit two years earlier.

Heathrow's four terminals have rooms to temporarily hold suspected illegal immigrants spotted entering the country.

Another set of rooms is used for people put on flights out of Britain.

Of the hundreds of people passing through the units each month with most held for a few hours. Some detainees have been held for more than 24 hours.

Ms Owers said there had been some "limited improvements" since the last visit.

She said inspectors had seen staff using "dehumanising" language, including calling detainees "bodies" in "pens", while children and women were being held in the same rooms as men they did not know.

Border and Immigration Agency chief executive Lin Homer said the facilities had been improved since the inspection and further staff training introduced.

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Jonners, London says...
8:59am Tue 18 Dec 07

I think the key word here is "illegal". They have no right to be here and cost the national lots of money to deport them. I am sick of this softly, softly approach, if we took a tougher stance on immigration it would deter people from coming and freeloading off the country.

Gerald, Mitcham says...
9:06am Tue 18 Dec 07

About time perhaps a bit more of this treatment and we wouldnt see them flooding in. Most people are sick of these do gooders these people know we are a soft touch, what surprises me we are actually sending some back.

ron, london says...
10:04am Tue 18 Dec 07

We should be more like the States and turn 'em round in 24hrs, they wouldn't be so affected by the inadequate holding facilities then.

Ricky, Sheen says...
10:09am Tue 18 Dec 07

Reminds me of last time my luggage went a stray.

Croyboy, says...
10:22am Tue 18 Dec 07

How refreshing to read some sensible comments for a change.
Sure, if you don't want to be held as an illegal or suspected illegal, make sure your papers are in order.
Simple!

riche, battersea says...
11:29am Tue 18 Dec 07

so what if they suffer illegals shouldnt be in the country in first place ship them back home :)

Den, Wallington says...
12:14pm Tue 18 Dec 07

I agree, if they are illegal then they shouldn't be given any special treatment. Just put them on the next flight back to where they came from.
How long before some do gooder comes on and tells us we are all being racist?

Jess, margate says...
2:27pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Den wrote:
I agree, if they are illegal then they shouldn't be given any special treatment. Just put them on the next flight back to where they came from. How long before some do gooder comes on and tells us we are all being racist?
hey, to b fair some of these people come from reaaly hard back grounds y shpouldnt they get speshial treatment for gods sake they desirve it. y should us Brits get it all

jess, margate says...
2:33pm Tue 18 Dec 07

And dont go callin me a GOOGDER i can c wat u r sayin but we av everything, i mean wat cind of crimbo r they gunna have ???
so for gods sake cut um some slack, they must of been desprate to do it anywat

kate, margate says...
3:28pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Jonners wrote:
I think the key word here is \"illegal\". They have no right to be here and cost the national lots of money to deport them. I am sick of this softly, softly approach, if we took a tougher stance on immigration it would deter people from coming and freeloading off the country.
i agree.I must admit in my collage their are LODS OF CHECKS and i would say at least 94% of them arwe rude arragont bursteds who think they rule the place thier tossers and shgould be sent back

Kate, margate says...
3:30pm Tue 18 Dec 07

P.S- males only- how do u like it? ilike to b powerless and if im tiedup its even better! whats plesure without pain???

Jock, London says...
3:35pm Tue 18 Dec 07

jess wrote:
And dont go callin me a GOOGDER i can c wat u r sayin but we av everything, i mean wat cind of crimbo r they gunna have ??? so for gods sake cut um some slack, they must of been desprate to do it anywat
Another fine example of the education system, but I understand English teaching isn't what it used to be.

Just what is a googder?

My view is that if you can't afford to live here, don't come. I get fed up of these women begging on the Tube, etc.

Sadly, I can see many trying to cash in on the new £4000 initiative cooked up by the Ship of Fools at Westminster Bridge.

jessie, margate says...
3:51pm Tue 18 Dec 07

TO JOCK can i just say i can tell u have never been poor! its no-ones choise and how can u say that if you cant afford to live hear u shouldnt! its not your contry you arragant s0-so!!!!!!!!
face factrs u line in the REAL WORLD!

jessie, margate says...
3:58pm Tue 18 Dec 07

To Jock
sorry if my last e-mail seemed kind of Harsh it justs makes me mad that u think you have more right to be hear just becouse u can afford too! i was raised by the state and now im heading to Uni next year! im just saying i was poor yet now im going to uni to be a doctor!

Jock, London says...
4:07pm Tue 18 Dec 07

jessie wrote:
To Jock sorry if my last e-mail seemed kind of Harsh it justs makes me mad that u think you have more right to be hear just becouse u can afford too! i was raised by the state and now im heading to Uni next year! im just saying i was poor yet now im going to uni to be a doctor!
If they ever make you a doctor, I shall complain to the Medical Council =P

And you don't know the first thing about me. Just because I have a high command of English, it doesn't mean I'm rich. On the contrary, I'm an actor, doing jobs here and there, and struggling to pay bills.


Jessie, margate says...
4:27pm Tue 18 Dec 07

How dear you speak 2 me like that! i sais i was sorry for calling you arrogont and you say i sshouldnt b a doctor! i ask myself y that is and i think its becouse ur jelouse!
i mean some one like you being an actor in what......a slezy **** film is all yourd b in if that!
i dont know y u have such a high cummond of england when, most of england is full of concil estats, benfits and thugs so fuckl u!

kate, margate says...
4:29pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Jessie do i know u? Leave Jock alond u slag!!!!!kate

Jock, London says...
4:37pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Jessie wrote:
How dear you speak 2 me like that! i sais i was sorry for calling you arrogont and you say i sshouldnt b a doctor! i ask myself y that is and i think its becouse ur jelouse! i mean some one like you being an actor in what......a slezy **** film is all yourd b in if that! i dont know y u have such a high cummond of england when, most of england is full of concil estats, benfits and thugs so fuckl u!
More assumptions!
1)I am not originally from England.
2)Last time I checked The Bill, Hotel Babylon, and Oliver Twist (just a selection of my credits) were not classified as **** films.

Jealous? Ho Ho Ho!You're just making a fool of yourself now dear, and frankly I'm not going to waste another second replying to you. Takes me 10 minutes to figure out what half of your replies mean.

Jonners, London says...
5:14pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Jessie, please stop, it hurts my mind to read your babble.

ubique, london says...
7:11pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Jessie,

You have more chance of becoming a Dr than I have of winning the lottery this week and next week and the week after. And if you are at or going to Uni then that confirms to me that this traitorous Government have watered down the Education System since my time.

Your an uneducated prat! And I bet you've never done a days work in your life therefore not paid taxes just sponged like the people your defending here.

My suspicion anyway is you've only been here a short while yourself hence your crap command of the language and defence of imigrants leagl or otherwise.

ubique, london says...
7:14pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Just realised I made a few typos there but that was because my blood is boiling!

Geoff, Sutton says...
9:52pm Tue 18 Dec 07

I am sick to death of this country filling up everyday with immigrants Illegal or otherwise I have worked hard all of my life I have paid my taxes like thousands of other hard working British people and I now have to watch this Goverment giving it all away while they sit in parliment arguing like a load of school kids. I still work hard but I make sure that fifty percent goes in my back pocket. And further more everday we see people dying of cancer and other serous conditions because there is not enough money in the pot to pay for specialist treatment it makes me sick. ps jessie of Margate for gods sake use your bloody spell checker please

Den, Wallington says...
10:00pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Jess wrote:
Den wrote: I agree, if they are illegal then they shouldn\'t be given any special treatment. Just put them on the next flight back to where they came from. How long before some do gooder comes on and tells us we are all being racist?
hey, to b fair some of these people come from reaaly hard back grounds y shpouldnt they get speshial treatment for gods sake they desirve it. y should us Brits get it all
"Dr". Jess. (God help us if you ever become one). What about the British people that have a hard time in our country? If the illegal immigrants have a hard time it really isn't our problem. I agree with Geoff from Sutton if we didn't spend so much money on these immigrants then we could plough more money into our own peoples needs. I hope you can understand this as I don't think I have made any spelling mistakes.

Geoff, Sutton says...
10:16pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Well done Den can I also just ask if Jess was born here or is she a free loader from slobavania cos er speling aint thaht ghood iz it

Billy, Streatham Hill says...
10:32pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Totally disgusted at the spiteful, hate-filled comments from so-called 'British' people here. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

The people who are being held in pens are human beings, who have hopes, dreams, fears and tribulations just like everyone else. The Jews received the same treatment in Germany - I can see now that people will be quite happy to persecute others because they are 'different'.

ubique, london says...
11:07pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Billy wrote:
Totally disgusted at the spiteful, hate-filled comments from so-called 'British' people here. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

The people who are being held in pens are human beings, who have hopes, dreams, fears and tribulations just like everyone else. The Jews received the same treatment in Germany - I can see now that people will be quite happy to persecute others because they are 'different'.
Your right Billy! I tell you what...you write to the Home Office and tell them you will take in half a dozen into your own home and you will vouch for them as they are only human beings desperate to integrate into our society and contribute. Was it Billy or Silly Billy? M8 do gooders like you have destroyed this country. Wheres my rights for my sons and daughters and grand kids to grow in the England I knew and the benefits I and my father and my grandfather and great grandfather paid into and built? No council house for any of mine. Angry? You betcha! Bet you vote labour eh Billy!?

lilly, croydon says...
11:11pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Billy, precisely why we should deport them faster. Racism grows when people see their taxes wasted on scroungers. If they were so desparate they would have settled in the first safe place they got to - not travelled all the way across europe to this overcrowded isle! We have been a tolerant country in all aspects of life - now look at the state of the country. Our glorious soldiers did not fight the krauts and defend democracy to see the country come to this! There are 10,000 foreign criminals in our prisons - they should be deported first.

roger, chavtown says...
11:16pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Eh, put the likes of billie and the thick doctors taxes up - they can pay for them. while the rest of us can have a discount! Controlling immigration will ease racism.

AEC, USA says...
11:48pm Tue 18 Dec 07

Here in the USA, we have 12,000,000 illegal mexicans and the US Goverment want to keep them! So at lease you are getting rid of them!

Den, Wallington says...
12:18am Wed 19 Dec 07

My comments are factual not hate filled. What do you think would happen if we went to a foreign country with no job, no home & no money? Do you think their government would house us, give us money and food and pay our rent? No I think not. We have got to start putting our own people first, that is not a racist comment it is means putting all British people first no matter what colour they are. If they are British then they are far more important than any illegal immigrant who has broken the law and therefore does not deserve our help.
Me, racist? Not at all I am a British taxpayer, I have mixed race children so make your own minds up about me.

Dennis, The Colonies says...
6:25am Wed 19 Dec 07

JOCK: You beat me to making a comment on the atrocious spelling of some of these posts.

Come on, people. If you have a computer, surely you must have a program containing a spelling checker.

Write your comment in that program and use
the b****y spelling checker to save the rest of us the pain of struggling through your posts.

Croyboy, says...
8:51am Wed 19 Dec 07

Billy wrote:
Totally disgusted at the spiteful, hate-filled comments from so-called 'British' people here. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

The people who are being held in pens are human beings, who have hopes, dreams, fears and tribulations just like everyone else. The Jews received the same treatment in Germany - I can see now that people will be quite happy to persecute others because they are 'different'.
Oh, dear: it doesn't take long for the "let 'em all in" brigade to stick a reefer in their mouths, sit down at a computer, and pick out an answer, does it?

First thing: "British": I'm first and foremost English. (Any rubbish can be classed as "British" these days.)

"The people who are being held in pens are human beings, who have hopes, dreams, fears..."
Sure, and they ought to realise said hopes, dreams etc. in their own country. ...Or, if they don't like their own country, change it: don't come to mine! Just think: if all the anti-Castro Cubans were actually in Cuba rather than in Florida, that geriatric dictator would have gone years ago.

"The Jews received the same treatment in Germany..."
Yes, after they'd been living in that country for hundreds of years. How did anyone know who was Jewish and who wasn't? Easy: they chose not to assimilate - the same as all the alien "communities" in the UK. That, Billy, is the road to future chaos.




annoyed!!!, says...
10:08am Wed 19 Dec 07

The quicker they get them out them better!!! They do nothing but cause hatred in this country & it makes me sick that they get housed and bennifits from good hard working people that have to pay their bloody taxes!!!! All they do is come into this country, ponse money and turn into bloody drug dealers!

jessie, margate says...
10:54am Wed 19 Dec 07

ubique wrote:
Jessie, You have more chance of becoming a Dr than I have of winning the lottery this week and next week and the week after. And if you are at or going to Uni then that confirms to me that this traitorous Government have watered down the Education System since my time. Your an uneducated prat! And I bet you've never done a days work in your life therefore not paid taxes just sponged like the people your defending here. My suspicion anyway is you've only been here a short while yourself hence your crap command of the language and defence of imigrants leagl or otherwise.
yer thanks Godder!
and all you lot can fk off u dicks
i will be dr so shut up

jessie, margate says...
11:38am Wed 19 Dec 07

ubique wrote:
Jessie, You have more chance of becoming a Dr than I have of winning the lottery this week and next week and the week after. And if you are at or going to Uni then that confirms to me that this traitorous Government have watered down the Education System since my time. Your an uneducated prat! And I bet you've never done a days work in your life therefore not paid taxes just sponged like the people your defending here. My suspicion anyway is you've only been here a short while yourself hence your crap command of the language and defence of imigrants leagl or otherwise.
for your infomation i was born in gilford surry and all my family are english!
i think you have gone well over the top and if you must know my mother is a single perant who is a dinner -lady but yes we do get some benfets ff the state but we cant help that and i am only 16 and still studying 4 uni so how can i work???

Ricky, sheen says...
11:53am Wed 19 Dec 07

Jessie said "...my mother is a single perant who is a dinner -lady but yes we do get some benfets ff the state "

How do you even manage to complete the forms? And university applications? Forget it.

Tigs, says...
12:03pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Good for you Jessie that you have such high aspirations at such a young age! I wish I had known what I wanted to do then! Good luck with going to Uni as I guess doctors spelling things correctly is not such a requirement. I think you might find out differently but then again you may be typing in this way for speed or because you can't be bothered to think to spell things correctly. Bear in mind that you will have many essays and papers to write throughout your time at Uni and will be marked down for any unintelligible words or sentences you type.

I know doctor's handwriting is just scrawl on prescriptions but it doesn't mean that they started off with bed spelling and grammar. That is something that seems to be more and more lacking in the posts I read. It makes me embarrassed as to what level some of you left your education at!!!

Before anyone says it I am not someone who went to Uni myself nor an old person! Just someone who cares that the English Language is not cared about anymore. We seem to have developed into this gutteral urban speak, gangster type slang or text speak. I do use that myself for texts but only as it saves time!!!!

Completely off the subject I know but I just get sick of getting a headache when I read things like Godder's. It must have taken longer to type it like that than the normal way!!!

I do still wish you luck though Jessie. We don't have enough home grown doctors after all. Getting back to the subject, a high percentage are immigrants!

Tigs, says...
12:05pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Whoops I put bed spelling and grammar! Don't I feel foolish!! Oh well just goes to show none of us are perfect when trying to type quickly! Maybe I was thinking of bedside manner!!

jessie, margate says...
12:08pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Ricky wrote:
Jessie said "...my mother is a single perant who is a dinner -lady but yes we do get some benfets ff the state " How do you even manage to complete the forms? And university applications? Forget it.
why do you feel the need to b so horrable?
for your info if you are studing at a degree or deploma for the NHS then its free and i can pay back when im working, at least im doing something unlike most 16 year olds!

jessie, margate says...
12:10pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Tigs wrote:
Good for you Jessie that you have such high aspirations at such a young age! I wish I had known what I wanted to do then! Good luck with going to Uni as I guess doctors spelling things correctly is not such a requirement. I think you might find out differently but then again you may be typing in this way for speed or because you can't be bothered to think to spell things correctly. Bear in mind that you will have many essays and papers to write throughout your time at Uni and will be marked down for any unintelligible words or sentences you type. I know doctor's handwriting is just scrawl on prescriptions but it doesn't mean that they started off with bed spelling and grammar. That is something that seems to be more and more lacking in the posts I read. It makes me embarrassed as to what level some of you left your education at!!! Before anyone says it I am not someone who went to Uni myself nor an old person! Just someone who cares that the English Language is not cared about anymore. We seem to have developed into this gutteral urban speak, gangster type slang or text speak. I do use that myself for texts but only as it saves time!!!! Completely off the subject I know but I just get sick of getting a headache when I read things like Godder's. It must have taken longer to type it like that than the normal way!!! I do still wish you luck though Jessie. We don't have enough home grown doctors after all. Getting back to the subject, a high percentage are immigrants!
Thankyou Tigs

Ely, Leytonstone says...
12:16pm Wed 19 Dec 07

What the hell is this thread about, the article just talks about the detention cells, it states quite clearly that most people are turned around in a matter of hours. It doesn't suggest illegal immigrant should stay in the country. It a very simple situation, illegal immigrant have no business being in the country so should be put on a plane back to there country of origin.. and for the most part at the airports this happens. What makes Great Britain such a decent place to live is our professional and civilised way of behaving, the British are traditional polite and courteous and treat people with respect. That means If some one has arrived here illegally its down to us to remove them. They have committed a legal crime not a moral one. This is a great country and I can understand why people want to live here. Some of the posts in this thread are pretty much saying its acceptable for people to be treated like animals.

Jessie clearly has an issue with her written English and Jess dear it something you really need to work on because as you get older its becomes much more important. At least the girls having a go at expressing an opinion, ridiculing her it pretty **** low, especially since I suspect allot of your a much older than her.

Like many discussion about the issue of immigration, legal and illegal get used interchangeably. As sooner as someone starts trying to discuss the matter reasonably there labelled with a 'control' word. What a mess.

Tigs, says...
12:27pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Well Ely I hate to tell you this but your English isn't all that either! Also it has nothing to do with age but a lot to do with whether kids are being taught well or are actually interested in learning in the first place. I have watched a report on the telly recently that said 70% of kids leaving school now cannot read or write properly. I'm sorry but that is just shameful. In lots of areas it is because there are classes with many immigrant children in. Please do not get defensive at this as it was something I watched and I do not wish to be labelled a bigot as I am not one!

On the other hand I watched a news report last night that said 2 thirds of manual labour is now done by immigrants in this country (skilled workers) and that our economy is booming so god knows what to believe!!


jessie, margate says...
12:35pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Ely wrote:
What the hell is this thread about, the article just talks about the detention cells, it states quite clearly that most people are turned around in a matter of hours. It doesn't suggest illegal immigrant should stay in the country. It a very simple situation, illegal immigrant have no business being in the country so should be put on a plane back to there country of origin.. and for the most part at the airports this happens. What makes Great Britain such a decent place to live is our professional and civilised way of behaving, the British are traditional polite and courteous and treat people with respect. That means If some one has arrived here illegally its down to us to remove them. They have committed a legal crime not a moral one. This is a great country and I can understand why people want to live here. Some of the posts in this thread are pretty much saying its acceptable for people to be treated like animals. Jessie clearly has an issue with her written English and Jess dear it something you really need to work on because as you get older its becomes much more important. At least the girls having a go at expressing an opinion, ridiculing her it pretty **** low, especially since I suspect allot of your a much older than her. Like many discussion about the issue of immigration, legal and illegal get used interchangeably. As sooner as someone starts trying to discuss the matter reasonably there labelled with a 'control' word. What a mess.
thankyou but can i just say my wrighting is called SLAND AND IT SAVES TIME TO WRIGHT LIKE THIS

jessie, margate says...
12:37pm Wed 19 Dec 07

annoyed!!! wrote:
The quicker they get them out them better!!! They do nothing but cause hatred in this country & it makes me sick that they get housed and bennifits from good hard working people that have to pay their bloody taxes!!!! All they do is come into this country, ponse money and turn into bloody drug dealers!
shut up! wat about all us brits that r always maki ng troble???

jessie, margate says...
12:39pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Tigs wrote:
Well Ely I hate to tell you this but your English isn't all that either! Also it has nothing to do with age but a lot to do with whether kids are being taught well or are actually interested in learning in the first place. I have watched a report on the telly recently that said 70% of kids leaving school now cannot read or write properly. I'm sorry but that is just shameful. In lots of areas it is because there are classes with many immigrant children in. Please do not get defensive at this as it was something I watched and I do not wish to be labelled a bigot as I am not one! On the other hand I watched a news report last night that said 2 thirds of manual labour is now done by immigrants in this country (skilled workers) and that our economy is booming so god knows what to believe!!
I agree its shocking, but im not like that i can spell it just saves time 2 wright in slang!

Ely, Leytonstone says...
12:40pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Hi Tigs

Yes, you are of course you are correct my spelling and grammar is probably below average and the comment I direct at Jessie was mean to be taken with a hint of empathy. Just so we get the correct context to things. I'm on my lunch break at work so I started writing my comment before you posted yours and after several distractions posted my after you so I hadn't read yours. Nothing I wrote is a pop at you, your post seems perfectly reasonable.

When I mentioned people age I was referring to the posts ridiculing Jessie as I suspect some on them were written by people who are old enough to know better than to simply take the 'micky' out of a 16 year old girl. Again this was not in reference to your post.

Also just as a point of interest the censored **** on my last post was for the word 'd-a-m-n'. How odd to have that removed, in fact i'm a bit miffed about that as it look like I used a much stronger word.

jessie, margate says...
12:44pm Wed 19 Dec 07

To all my fans(joke!)
have a good crimbo(x-mas) and new year, im about to leave for my x-mas holiday

have a good one everyone (even u horrid 1s!)


IF ANY 1 WANTS TO CONTACKT ME MY E-MAIL ADDIE IS www.iesham@yahoo.co.
uk!

ubique, london says...
2:02pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Jessie,

I suspect your ambition is University but because you cannot spell it lucky for you people call it Uni.

Anyway I'm sure there will be a place for you somewhere in a university somewhere. I'm sure they need a dinner lady somewhere and you can follow in your mums footsteps.

Avoid chalking the menu though and leave that to someone else. We don't want student walking around like they are Bulimic as they can never decipher the menu and go home hungry.

Another note to self....in future if i see a lady Dr and if her name is Jessie I will ask her to write down what University she attended and if she writes 'dis is d uni i wnt 2' I'm going to go home and resort to an aspirin and the will of God.

Incidentally isn't slag supposed to shorten things? Why is wright shorter than write??

Well at least your Dr funny ha ha as you give us a prescription of laughter every time you hit your keypad.

I do feel sorry for you though. It must be hard in the life of Jessie surrounded by all these intellectuals who want Dr's who can spell.

annoyed!!!, says...
2:06pm Wed 19 Dec 07

ubique-
WELL SAID!!!!!

Tigs, says...
2:50pm Wed 19 Dec 07

Ubique I would never had made such personal digs at Jessie. Some of the things you've said are downright mean. By the way it is slang not slag as you accidentally put! So again I say that nobody is perfect when trying to type quickly!! SO get off your high horse!

Merry Xmas to you too Jessie after all it is supposed to be the "Season of GOODWILL" chaps!!

Gene Hottinger, Mpls. Minnesota USA says...
4:21pm Wed 19 Dec 07

I've read a lot of accounts about how much it costs everyone to keep Illegal's in America and it's way out of hand. To listen to the braying of idiots like Jessie is even more stupid. Sounds like she'll never be more than a wellfair recipient to me. We've got to stop giving the farm away to everyone just because comeone in the government says it's politically correct. Den Wallington said it best here, If we were to go to any other country, we'd have to have a job and be willing to uphold the laws of the land. Heck, even Mexico won't let you in their country without a job. Any other country would expect you to pay taxes as well. Why should we do anything different than what Mexico would ask of us? The only reason our polititions in America are backing the Illegal's is because big business is contributing large sums of money for the politition's to get in office, they won't bite the hand that fed them and Big business wants the Illegal's in our country because they don't have to pay them much, thus making their bottom lines look far better. Trust me, if there wasn't a buck to be made with this subject, the Mexicans would never get across our borders.

Daniel, Essex says...
4:23pm Wed 19 Dec 07

ubique wrote:
Jessie, I suspect your ambition is University but because you cannot spell it lucky for you people call it Uni. Anyway I'm sure there will be a place for you somewhere in a university somewhere. I'm sure they need a dinner lady somewhere and you can follow in your mums footsteps. Avoid chalking the menu though and leave that to someone else. We don't want student walking around like they are Bulimic as they can never decipher the menu and go home hungry. Another note to self....in future if i see a lady Dr and if her name is Jessie I will ask her to write down what University she attended and if she writes 'dis is d uni i wnt 2' I'm going to go home and resort to an aspirin and the will of God. Incidentally isn't slag supposed to shorten things? Why is wright shorter than write?? Well at least your Dr funny ha ha as you give us a prescription of laughter every time you hit your keypad. I do feel sorry for you though. It must be hard in the life of Jessie surrounded by all these intellectuals who want Dr's who can spell.
LOL!!! :D

Billy, Streatham Hill says...
10:30pm Wed 19 Dec 07

ubique wrote:
Billy wrote:
Totally disgusted at the spiteful, hate-filled comments from so-called \'British\' people here. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

The people who are being held in pens are human beings, who have hopes, dreams, fears and tribulations just like everyone else. The Jews received the same treatment in Germany - I can see now that people will be quite happy to persecute others because they are \'different\'.
Your right Billy! I tell you what...you write to the Home Office and tell them you will take in half a dozen into your own home and you will vouch for them as they are only human beings desperate to integrate into our society and contribute. Was it Billy or Silly Billy? M8 do gooders like you have destroyed this country. Wheres my rights for my sons and daughters and grand kids to grow in the England I knew and the benefits I and my father and my grandfather and great grandfather paid into and built? No council house for any of mine. Angry? You betcha! Bet you vote labour eh Billy!?
Where do I start?
I am not a Labour voter.
I didn't say that illegal immigrants should be in this country. I was replying to the very nasty comments, from people who said it was good that other people were suffering. You agreed that other people to suffer. You think that is acceptable. You think that 'doing good' makes people weak. Tell your grandchildren that.

Can't get a council house - refresh my memory - who was it who sold off all the council houses?

David Simpson, Heckmondwicke says...
11:19pm Wed 19 Dec 07

The people in his country who said years ago that this would happen were all branded "racists" by NuLab!
Now look at the problems we have and NuLab are still letting them in!

Anon, London says...
5:11pm Thu 20 Dec 07

jessie wrote:
Ricky wrote: Jessie said \"...my mother is a single perant who is a dinner -lady but yes we do get some benfets ff the state \" How do you even manage to complete the forms? And university applications? Forget it.
why do you feel the need to b so horrable? for your info if you are studing at a degree or deploma for the NHS then its free and i can pay back when im working, at least im doing something unlike most 16 year olds!
16 year olds do not go to university as you would not have the required A levels to get onto a course (unless they were seriously intelligent - which from you ramblings I can see that you are not).

ani, Essex says...
3:07am Fri 21 Dec 07

This is OUR country, we`ve done enough now, we`re already overflowing, so much for living in such a humane country, a country that treats it`s own british born citizens 2nd rate, a goverment that is forever making up new taxes, enough is enough now, the majority are sick of it, more need to speak up and not accept the ludricously high prices we pay to live in Britain, the GREAT went out of it years ago! would we get the same treatment as we give other nationals skipping over to this country,in their homeland? in a few years this country will be just as barren as theirs, no NHS, country warring etc etc, ship them back! and make them work their land, just as the women did in WW1/2 to keep Britain standing while their husbands, sons etc fought, stop using Britain as a bog pit!

Jo, says...
1:16pm Thu 27 Dec 07

jess wrote:
And dont go callin me a GOOGDER i can c wat u r sayin but we av everything, i mean wat cind of crimbo r they gunna have ??? so for gods sake cut um some slack, they must of been desprate to do it anywat
Could someone translate this, I don't speak gibberish.

Al, says...
1:18pm Thu 27 Dec 07

jessie wrote:
To Jock sorry if my last e-mail seemed kind of Harsh it justs makes me mad that u think you have more right to be hear just becouse u can afford too! i was raised by the state and now im heading to Uni next year! im just saying i was poor yet now im going to uni to be a doctor!
Have you been forgetting to take your medication again. You seem to be halucinating again.

carrie, kent says...
7:07pm Fri 4 Jan 08

I say we should send them all back as soon as possible to save the tax payers money. These people have no right to be here in the first place. I agree that they might not want to come here if we were not such an easy touch. The money used on these people should be used to help English people after all there are pleanty of them suffering but who gives a toss about them?

kerby, says...
11:23pm Sun 13 Jan 08

well i am here in texas in the u.s.a. and we are being overrun with illegal pieces of **** mexicans.they come here and cause wage suppresion,kill us daily drinking and driving.they will not assimulate,the **** like rabbits,you will see teen mexicans holding a 1 year old with a two year old next to her and one in the **** oven.they have no appreciation for the free **** they get here,free medical care,get let loose for minor crimes because no one wants to deport them and they know they have no money to pay fines or find them once they are released.they overburden our hospitals and go to the emergency rooms for common colds.refuse to learn english,fly thier **** flag.if thier country was so great why dont they go back thier to fly it.they are roaches with no concern for ecological limits.mexicans suck dick and i hate them.they will be the downfall of america.

Ani, essex says...
9:18am Tue 29 Jan 08

carrie wrote:
I say we should send them all back as soon as possible to save the tax payers money. These people have no right to be here in the first place. I agree that they might not want to come here if we were not such an easy touch. The money used on these people should be used to help English people after all there are pleanty of them suffering but who gives a toss about them?
Exactly..what is it now for our older generation? `Heat or Eat`.. majority can`t afford to do both!
Council taxes are going up`again`... do wages go up? of course not! so it`s more taken from the average british families plate each year, do we see any changes, more policing, more youth facilities, more homes being built for the British? NO, of course not, as i`ve said before; we are becoming the 2nd rate citizen.

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