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9:04am Friday 14th December 2007
The sudden execution of a sacred cow in Letchmore Heath has caused outrage among hundreds of Hindus, who have described it as a calamity with significant consequences.
The killing yesterday (Thursday) of Gangotri, 13, a Belgian Blue and Jersey cross, has been described as "religious sacrilege of the worst kind" by the president of Bhaktivedanta Manor.
The RSPCA has defended the decision to kill the animal, saying it was suffering greatly after being crippled by a bull in a "mating accident" in September last year.
Gangotri, unable to stand since the accident, was issued a fatal dose of barbiturate by RSPCA officers.
The RSPCA was assisted by police after being granted a warrant legally allowing oficers to enter the temple and kill the animal.
Stuart Coyle, head farm manager at the temple, said the unexpected killing was an act of betrayal and deception, describing RSPCA officers pushing aside monks and sneaking into the enclosure.
He said a meeting the previous night suggested they had time to appeal against the decision and that they had no reason to suspect the early morning operation.
He said: "We were under the impression that we would have some time, it's extremely shocking that they came in at 7.45am to kill our cow. The chief RSPCA officer stopped me from going in. They said they wanted to examine her and instead gave her a lethal injection.
"It's like they've come to my house and killed my own child in front of me. I've been farm manager since 1993. The cow has been my life. She was not in old age and was determined to live. It is disgusting. The RSPCA have been plotting to kill her."
RSPCA Superintendent Tim Wass admitted the manor was not told about the killing in advance, as this would make it difficult to carry out the operation.
He added: "It was all conducted in an open, honest and frank manner. There was never any suggestion of us creeping around or deceiving anyone. Waiting for the legal system to tackle a difficult theological conundrum was not an option.
"Three vets, one of them from The Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons said it was in a heavy state of suffering, it had multiple sores and pressure points, its respiratory rate was three times what it should be. It had no chance of ever standing in the future."
He described the day as both the easiest and most difficult day of his career, insisting that there was no doubt that ending the animal's suffering was the best action.
He said a farmer responsible for an animal with half as many health problems as Gangotri would be open to prosecution and exceptions should not be made on religious grounds.
Mr Coyle disagreed, saying: "There is no way people should be allowed to just kill animals this way. She couldn't walk but lived a happy life.
"If you walked past her you would have thought she was just lying down. She was never a threat to anyone. The RSPCA don't believe in nursing animals. They are a dispenser of death. This is not just a Hindu issue, it is a calamity that will have serious implications."
Temple president Gauri das, said: This is shocking and duplicitous behaviour, we have been deceived by those who had given us their word."Should the cow have been put down? Fill out the form below and have your say.
The Plinth of Darkneth, Watford says...
12:00pm Fri 14 Dec 07
Tigs, says...
1:03pm Fri 14 Dec 07
James, Watford says...
1:56pm Fri 14 Dec 07
Animal lover, S.Oxhey says...
2:11pm Fri 14 Dec 07
For ignorant people, Cheam says...
4:46pm Fri 14 Dec 07
Animal lover wrote:So i take it u have read the bible then, or r u one of these people who takes the moral high ground and actually in reality knows nothing...hmmm i wonder!!!!!
Can you imagine living in their country and having ill animals all over the place, this is there caring religion to let an animal or human being suffer in pain, who are these idiots I dont ever remember reading in the bible that God would like living humans or animals suffer for their own enjoyment, if they want to pratice this then please go back to your own country.
sean, says...
6:25pm Fri 14 Dec 07
Dining out on, Letchmore Beef says...
8:46pm Fri 14 Dec 07
Pete, Perth, Australia says...
7:35am Sat 15 Dec 07
Vince, Their country says...
9:53am Sat 15 Dec 07
wayne, Cornwall says...
1:00pm Sat 15 Dec 07
Rasa, Radlett, UK says...
1:16pm Sat 15 Dec 07
Jock, London says...
2:10pm Sat 15 Dec 07
Rasa wrote:So you, and all the others berating the RSPCA, are actually trained vets and examined the animal, did you??
This cow was able to move on her own, she was eating and performing all bodily functions normally. She was being groomed every day by an appointed carer, and received such treatment as even humans don't get. She was always alert whenever someone walked by her, and had relationships. Her condition was a couple of bed sores from not being strong enough to stand up. When I had a major operation, I also couldn't walk on my own for quite some time, I lost a lot of weight, was in pain and my muscles got weak- maybe the RSPCA should've come after me with an injection too. Religion and science aside, can we not simply look at the fact that this cow was not nearly in the state that the rspca is claiming, that they needlessly killed her.
Rowan, Newcastle says...
2:36pm Sat 15 Dec 07
Rasa, Radlett UK says...
3:43pm Sat 15 Dec 07
Jock wrote:You don't need to be a vet to know if your pet whom you see every day is in pain and crying out.
Rasa wrote:So you, and all the others berating the RSPCA, are actually trained vets and examined the animal, did you??
This cow was able to move on her own, she was eating and performing all bodily functions normally. She was being groomed every day by an appointed carer, and received such treatment as even humans don't get. She was always alert whenever someone walked by her, and had relationships. Her condition was a couple of bed sores from not being strong enough to stand up. When I had a major operation, I also couldn't walk on my own for quite some time, I lost a lot of weight, was in pain and my muscles got weak- maybe the RSPCA should've come after me with an injection too. Religion and science aside, can we not simply look at the fact that this cow was not nearly in the state that the rspca is claiming, that they needlessly killed her.
You've also contradicted yourself. You start by saying "This cow was able to move on her own" and later state "it was too weak to stand". Sorry, but cows like to get up and roam around fields, eat the grass, etc. Not lie in a shed and develop sores.
And do you really think that vets would be so heartless as to put down a healthy animal?? Don't be so ludicrous, all of you.
alex, says...
5:25pm Sat 15 Dec 07
sarah Harding, hammersmith says...
7:34pm Sat 15 Dec 07
bud bud, kilburn says...
7:59pm Sat 15 Dec 07
frank the farmer, says...
9:42pm Sat 15 Dec 07
farmer frank, says...
9:45pm Sat 15 Dec 07
Naraharirupa, Radlett says...
10:21pm Sat 15 Dec 07
Jock, London says...
11:05am Sun 16 Dec 07
Rasa wrote:Your last paragraph really demonstrates how ridiculous your whole argument has been, mate. Last time I took my dog to the vet, it received curative treatment, not euthanasia. So don't come out with your puerile rubbish about vets only knowing how to kill.
Jock wrote:You don't need to be a vet to know if your pet whom you see every day is in pain and crying out. Standing is not the only movement. She was able to move her legs, shift her position, etc. And yes, cows do lie down a lot! She was in a sheltered, yet open aired area. And yes, the vets only know one thing: KILL. As soon as a cow stops producing milk at a regular farm, they KILL her. They KILL bulls as soon as they are born or use them for veal. Don't be so naive.Rasa wrote: This cow was able to move on her own, she was eating and performing all bodily functions normally. She was being groomed every day by an appointed carer, and received such treatment as even humans don't get. She was always alert whenever someone walked by her, and had relationships. Her condition was a couple of bed sores from not being strong enough to stand up. When I had a major operation, I also couldn't walk on my own for quite some time, I lost a lot of weight, was in pain and my muscles got weak- maybe the RSPCA should've come after me with an injection too. Religion and science aside, can we not simply look at the fact that this cow was not nearly in the state that the rspca is claiming, that they needlessly killed her.So you, and all the others berating the RSPCA, are actually trained vets and examined the animal, did you?? You've also contradicted yourself. You start by saying "This cow was able to move on her own" and later state "it was too weak to stand". Sorry, but cows like to get up and roam around fields, eat the grass, etc. Not lie in a shed and develop sores. And do you really think that vets would be so heartless as to put down a healthy animal?? Don't be so ludicrous, all of you.
Rowan, Newcastle says...
11:09am Sun 16 Dec 07
Jock, London says...
11:09am Sun 16 Dec 07
bud bud wrote:I wondered how long it would take your rant to reach the tired anti-war/capitalism rhetoric.
I think that seeing as the cow was cared for it should not have been put down. The people caring for the cow would have known best. I do not respect this countries attitude towards animals. BSE and faliure to innoculate against foot and mouth saw millions of cows waisted. The men in black assaulted me with a dirty needle for the same reason, they have no respect for people of colour or their religions. To read the racist comments like go back to your own country makes me sick and i understand many are of uk origin anyway. I hope some hindu's are not offended or upset but this culture and way of life in the west is fascist capitalim devoid of compassion and respect for nature or even humans. The sensless murder of millions of iraqi's and afghans, faliure to act on Burma ect. Money rules these peoples hearts and hell awaits there souls. Go back to my own country? I will and soon, so even if i was born here which i was it is still not my country because of my colour? OK
Paul, Staffs says...
2:28pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Rasa, Radlett UK says...
5:24pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Jock wrote:Once you start seeing the bigger picture, the actual point rather than hanging on to pedantics, then we can have a real conversation. Once you have kept an animal and cared for it, nursing it through its' difficulties, then we can talk. Or once you have visited a slaughterhouse and seen for real what happens in there, then we can talk. Open your eyes to reality, man.
Rasa wrote:Your last paragraph really demonstrates how ridiculous your whole argument has been, mate. Last time I took my dog to the vet, it received curative treatment, not euthanasia. So don't come out with your puerile rubbish about vets only knowing how to kill.
Jock wrote:You don't need to be a vet to know if your pet whom you see every day is in pain and crying out. Standing is not the only movement. She was able to move her legs, shift her position, etc. And yes, cows do lie down a lot! She was in a sheltered, yet open aired area. And yes, the vets only know one thing: KILL. As soon as a cow stops producing milk at a regular farm, they KILL her. They KILL bulls as soon as they are born or use them for veal. Don't be so naive.Rasa wrote: This cow was able to move on her own, she was eating and performing all bodily functions normally. She was being groomed every day by an appointed carer, and received such treatment as even humans don't get. She was always alert whenever someone walked by her, and had relationships. Her condition was a couple of bed sores from not being strong enough to stand up. When I had a major operation, I also couldn't walk on my own for quite some time, I lost a lot of weight, was in pain and my muscles got weak- maybe the RSPCA should've come after me with an injection too. Religion and science aside, can we not simply look at the fact that this cow was not nearly in the state that the rspca is claiming, that they needlessly killed her.So you, and all the others berating the RSPCA, are actually trained vets and examined the animal, did you?? You've also contradicted yourself. You start by saying "This cow was able to move on her own" and later state "it was too weak to stand". Sorry, but cows like to get up and roam around fields, eat the grass, etc. Not lie in a shed and develop sores. And do you really think that vets would be so heartless as to put down a healthy animal?? Don't be so ludicrous, all of you.
Cattle are bred in this country to produce meat and dairy produce. Fact of life. And if all bulls were killed as soon as they were born, how come there are so many cows?
And you have the nerve to call me naive...
stephen, wales says...
5:48pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Jock, London says...
6:38pm Sun 16 Dec 07
stephen wrote:Stephen, why not contribute something? Instead of hurling a lot of childish abuse? Your comment doesn't even make sense, you taffy fool! And where exactly should I go back to? I was born in Britain.
yeah jock! go back where you came from! open your eyes... you're just one of those nerds who are defending themselves because you are afraid of learning and seeing the reality - TRUTH. "jock" ****
daisy, says...
6:55pm Sun 16 Dec 07
bud bud wrote:you talk a load of sh1t mate, if you were born here then you shouldn't be slaggin the place off, if your that bothered p1ss off back to your own country if you feel you dont belong, you people are very disturbed, and what does it come down to that makes you like that.. bl0dey religion
I think that seeing as the cow was cared for it should not have been put down. The people caring for the cow would have known best. I do not respect this countries attitude towards animals. BSE and faliure to innoculate against foot and mouth saw millions of cows waisted. The men in black assaulted me with a dirty needle for the same reason, they have no respect for people of colour or their religions. To read the racist comments like go back to your own country makes me sick and i understand many are of uk origin anyway. I hope some hindu's are not offended or upset but this culture and way of life in the west is fascist capitalim devoid of compassion and respect for nature or even humans. The sensless murder of millions of iraqi's and afghans, faliure to act on Burma ect. Money rules these peoples hearts and hell awaits there souls. Go back to my own country? I will and soon, so even if i was born here which i was it is still not my country because of my colour? OK
Lisa, Croydon says...
8:23pm Sun 16 Dec 07
daisy wrote:What a nasty peice of chav scum you are! You cant even spell properly, let alone use the right characters to type words but I bet you are the the first to harp on about being English and how people of colour should go back to their own country etc and you cant even spell your own language properly!
bud bud wrote: I think that seeing as the cow was cared for it should not have been put down. The people caring for the cow would have known best. I do not respect this countries attitude towards animals. BSE and faliure to innoculate against foot and mouth saw millions of cows waisted. The men in black assaulted me with a dirty needle for the same reason, they have no respect for people of colour or their religions. To read the racist comments like go back to your own country makes me sick and i understand many are of uk origin anyway. I hope some hindu's are not offended or upset but this culture and way of life in the west is fascist capitalim devoid of compassion and respect for nature or even humans. The sensless murder of millions of iraqi's and afghans, faliure to act on Burma ect. Money rules these peoples hearts and hell awaits there souls. Go back to my own country? I will and soon, so even if i was born here which i was it is still not my country because of my colour? OKyou talk a load of sh1t mate, if you were born here then you shouldn't be slaggin the place off, if your that bothered p1ss off back to your own country if you feel you dont belong, you people are very disturbed, and what does it come down to that makes you like that.. bl0dey religion hell will await your soul love, with that attitude heaven wouldnt flllkin want you so fkkck off
Rasa, Radlett UK says...
8:43pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Lisa, Croydon says...
8:49pm Sun 16 Dec 07
daisy, says...
9:09pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Lisa wrote:he was born in this country so therefore it is his country but like many other people like him he is slagging off the uk 'westerners'and saying that he will be going back to HIS country so if he dislikes it that much well foook off then!you know nothing about me and my background, this person was clearly saying that he does not like this country and dosent class it as his country!! so you haven't read the post properly have you you fool! he was the one being ignorant, chav scum? nooo far from it, i havent got a council house and claim all the benefits because i am not lazy and a 'chav' as you say, i have my own place and everything i have i earned myself, and i work hard and help alot of people in my work what do you do? so after reading your post your now just as bad as me then arent you?! my spelling is fine, there were no mistakes so maybe you cant spell? i am not writing a book or a legal document so im not too bothered about all the apostrophies that may or may not be there, so if thats all you can moan about then you can **** off aswell! so tell me, you agree with what 'budbud' typed do you? if you do, you are just as disturbed if it wasnt for people like me then all the immigrants/layabouts wouldnt get their benefits oh and love check your own spelling, for bud bud to actually type a posting like that what does he expect, he is the ignorant one and you are too
daisy wrote:What a nasty peice of chav scum you are! You cant even spell properly, let alone use the right characters to type words but I bet you are the the first to harp on about being English and how people of colour should go back to their own country etc and you cant even spell your own language properly! Just because he may sl#g off some of the things he may have experienced in this country, doesnt mean he wasnt born here. And for you to tell him to f#ck off to his own country, ermmm he is in his own country you moron! And what do you mean by you people exactly? It is people like YOU, who crack me up. You are illiterate, uneducated, uncultured and plain dumb! Its a shame there are people like yourselves living in such a developed country and yet are so unworldly, its unreal! However, its nice to see many understanding comments on here. But whilst none of us apart from the owners really know the true state of this cow and the facts, why make comments on their religion and country? That is just plain ignorant.bud bud wrote: I think that seeing as the cow was cared for it should not have been put down. The people caring for the cow would have known best. I do not respect this countries attitude towards animals. BSE and faliure to innoculate against foot and mouth saw millions of cows waisted. The men in black assaulted me with a dirty needle for the same reason, they have no respect for people of colour or their religions. To read the racist comments like go back to your own country makes me sick and i understand many are of uk origin anyway. I hope some hindu's are not offended or upset but this culture and way of life in the west is fascist capitalim devoid of compassion and respect for nature or even humans. The sensless murder of millions of iraqi's and afghans, faliure to act on Burma ect. Money rules these peoples hearts and hell awaits there souls. Go back to my own country? I will and soon, so even if i was born here which i was it is still not my country because of my colour? OKyou talk a load of sh1t mate, if you were born here then you shouldn't be slaggin the place off, if your that bothered p1ss off back to your own country if you feel you dont belong, you people are very disturbed, and what does it come down to that makes you like that.. bl0dey religion hell will await your soul love, with that attitude heaven wouldnt flllkin want you so fkkck off
daisy, says...
9:18pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Rasa wrote:oh here we go, racial card ! if this is for me, i am not racist at all, i am just saying that religion has alot to answer for, keeping a sick animal that could not walk at all with bed sores and various other problems i expect, it is down right cruel the cow dosent give a t0ss how much you prey and worship it does it i suppose it just made you feel better because deep down you must of known it was not fair on the animal but for you to somehow worship (to hide your guilt you thought it would say dont worry love, i am very lonely/depressed and in pain and discomfort but because you worship and prey for me its ok dont worry about it! I DONT THINK SO
Thank you Lisa for your support. It is difficult to hear some of these comments, espcially the racial ones- seeing as how Gangotri's main carers ARE British and European. Just goes to show how ignorant people can be.
monk, battersea says...
1:35am Mon 17 Dec 07
Siddha das, London says...
2:36pm Mon 17 Dec 07
Jock, London says...
12:32am Tue 18 Dec 07
Siddha das wrote:You're assuming that we all believe in your philosophy about the correlation between body and spirit( or soul, or whatever you want to call it).
SHOCKING to read some of the comments on here. Obviously you people who are so rude and abusive are very sad lonely people and full of anger. I was born and bred in England and I believe 100% in cow protection so just exactly which country should i go back to? If you weren't so ignorant then you might be able to understand that none of us are these material bodies, the body is like a suit of clothes worn by you the soul...we are all part and parcel of the Supreme Person. You should learn some manners and respect for others then maybe you could hold an intelligent conversation. So what next...killing old folks and kids because they cant walk or enjoy this world to the best of their senses?
Siddha das, London says...
6:59pm Tue 18 Dec 07
Jock wrote:Hi Jock
Siddha das wrote:You're assuming that we all believe in your philosophy about the correlation between body and spirit( or soul, or whatever you want to call it).
SHOCKING to read some of the comments on here. Obviously you people who are so rude and abusive are very sad lonely people and full of anger. I was born and bred in England and I believe 100% in cow protection so just exactly which country should i go back to? If you weren't so ignorant then you might be able to understand that none of us are these material bodies, the body is like a suit of clothes worn by you the soul...we are all part and parcel of the Supreme Person. You should learn some manners and respect for others then maybe you could hold an intelligent conversation. So what next...killing old folks and kids because they cant walk or enjoy this world to the best of their senses?
Well, I don't, because I'm a MSc qualified biologist who has learned facts, not theory. We exist due to biochemical processes which create certain voltages in the body. Once you are dead, that's that. I mean, where's the actual evidence that the soul continues to exist after the body dies?? I'll tell you. Nowhere.
This is my opinion, I'm entitled to it.
bud bud, kill&burn the dead says...
8:40pm Wed 19 Dec 07
The Gauntlet., DuelatDawn says...
2:43pm Thu 20 Dec 07
lets see you create life in the lab....YOU CANT CAN YOU! If I bring you a dead fish and say "make this fish come back to life YOU CANT!
charlie, New York says...
8:43pm Thu 20 Dec 07
lucy.t, says...
4:12pm Fri 21 Dec 07
is there such a dearth of animal cruelty in the UK that the RSPCA has to come in euthanize an animal that by all measures seemed loved and well cared for.You should see how we treat our children , we are bottom of the league in Europe for all the things we don't do , another government fails people and yet still the same two parties get in.
chris green, watford says...
7:56pm Fri 21 Dec 07
Tigs wrote:Hi Tigs,
Sorry to be thick but I don\'t understand what happened to her? What is a mating accident? Whoops sorry there love, I slipped it in the wrong one? Did she lose her balance? I\'m just curious and I don\'t mean to be offensive either.
skye, Surrey says...
5:28pm Mon 24 Dec 07
soso, says...
10:31am Sat 29 Dec 07
dalit 5-0, cambridge says...
11:59pm Sun 30 Dec 07
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Jerry, says...
10:45am Fri 14 Dec 07