Cycling festival Ride London divides opinion amongst Kingston residents and businesses

Last year's Ride London event

Last year's Ride London event

First published in News This Is Local London: Photograph of the Author by , Chief reporter

The second annual Ride London visits Kingston twice this weekend – but the return of the world-class cycling festival has divided opinion amongst residents and businesses.

Kingston will be the only town cyclists visit twice as they make their way to and from Surrey Hills during the weekend event on August 9 and 10.

To celebrate, Memorial Gardens will hold a bike festival and the Ancient Market Place will have a seaside themed event including a giant sandpit and beach stalls alongside cheering spectators.

But with 26 rolling road closures across the borough including Kingston Bridge and Portsmouth Road, some residents have complained the Olympic legacy event now in its second year, will cause too much disruption.

Tolworth resident Jackie Kerkham said: “It's like being under house arrest.

“It's either stay at home or find somewhere to go that is off the cycle route.”

A shop worker said: “Having to get to work is a nightmare, getting home is a nightmare, and then the day drags as we have very few customers as everyone is either avoiding the shops or are only there to watch the cycling.”

Video: Last year's Ride London through Kingston

Coombe Road resident Carl Kember, 76, whose road will be closed most of the day, said he had suggested a brochure detailing diverted bus routes, but town centre managers Kingstonfirst and Kingston Council had not followed through.

He said: “They promised it would be better. But it’s not better. People need to know where to get the buses from. Coombe Lane West and Coombe Road – the two main arteries into Kingston from the north are cut off.”

He added last year race marshals had little knowledge about how residents could get about.

But businesses who suffered from poor sales last year are beginning to get behind the annual addition to the Kingston sporting calendar, according to Jerry Irving from Kingston Chamber of Commerce.

He said: “On the face of it for some businesses it’s difficult because it interrupts their trade but businesses are now beginning to realise the long term benefits. It puts Kingston on the map.

“I think businesses are feeling far more positive. They are beginning to get behind it and seeing it as a great event.”

Kingstonfirst marketing director James Kennedy posted a message on Facebook group Kingston Upon Thames No Fakes saying: “I know Ride London is a controversial event, we have tried this year to really help people with bus changes and road information.”

He directed people to Kingstonfirst's website, which features downloadable bus change information and a town centre map.

More information, including a full list of road closures, is available at kingston.gov.uk

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8:57am Tue 5 Aug 14

EpsomAndEwell says...

It puts Kingston on the mapsays Jerry Irving. This is the most ridiculous justification for selling out to the lycra wearing middle class and corporate sponsors.

I think he will find that people have actually heard of Kingston and know what's there. Having this cycle race is not going to attract extra business to Kingston.

it's just a nice day out for some at the expense of the local population and businesses.
It puts Kingston on the mapsays Jerry Irving. This is the most ridiculous justification for selling out to the lycra wearing middle class and corporate sponsors. I think he will find that people have actually heard of Kingston and know what's there. Having this cycle race is not going to attract extra business to Kingston. it's just a nice day out for some at the expense of the local population and businesses. EpsomAndEwell
  • Score: 6

9:10am Tue 5 Aug 14

S Leader says...

Let's use the Memorial Garden for everything other than it's purpose. Let us degrade it even further. After all the centenary of WW1 was held in the Market Place why not the cycle Festival ?? Hasn't anyone in authority in this Borough got any conscience or common decency or do they not even know that the Memorial Garden is actually also a Graveyard. Sadly, there is not much respect for anything in Kingston anymore let alone the dead.
And when did we become a seaside town? Perhaps instead of spending no doubt a ridiculous amount of money (whos?) on sandpits, the money would be better spent cleaning up all along the riverside. After all we are Upon Thames not sea!
Let's use the Memorial Garden for everything other than it's purpose. Let us degrade it even further. After all the centenary of WW1 was held in the Market Place why not the cycle Festival ?? Hasn't anyone in authority in this Borough got any conscience or common decency or do they not even know that the Memorial Garden is actually also a Graveyard. Sadly, there is not much respect for anything in Kingston anymore let alone the dead. And when did we become a seaside town? Perhaps instead of spending no doubt a ridiculous amount of money (whos?) on sandpits, the money would be better spent cleaning up all along the riverside. After all we are Upon Thames not sea! S Leader
  • Score: 16

10:06am Tue 5 Aug 14

helen59 says...

my goodness............
.....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.
my goodness............ .....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day. helen59
  • Score: -1

10:51am Tue 5 Aug 14

John 88 says...

The shop worker was correct, last year hardly anyone went shopping, buses terminate short of destination (but they show same destination "Kingston" without a qualifier so no-one knows will be dumped somewhere else), they pick up again in random streets that no marshall can point you to as they aren't briefed on anything useful for Kingston visitors. No-one knows what time the roads reopen (its hours after outbound riders pass).
Most people stay at home or head off out of town via the few roads that are open (should I send bill to Prudential for the extra petrol having to go via a long diversion). As a one off it was fine, as an annual disruption it is poorly organised, especially as marshals are so rude or incompetant at answering anything.
The shop worker was correct, last year hardly anyone went shopping, buses terminate short of destination (but they show same destination "Kingston" without a qualifier so no-one knows will be dumped somewhere else), they pick up again in random streets that no marshall can point you to as they aren't briefed on anything useful for Kingston visitors. No-one knows what time the roads reopen (its hours after outbound riders pass). Most people stay at home or head off out of town via the few roads that are open (should I send bill to Prudential for the extra petrol having to go via a long diversion). As a one off it was fine, as an annual disruption it is poorly organised, especially as marshals are so rude or incompetant at answering anything. John 88
  • Score: 7

11:12am Tue 5 Aug 14

Imigrante says...

Just like the Tolworth Greenway and Ancient market development projects, they are all waste of time and money.
Just like the Tolworth Greenway and Ancient market development projects, they are all waste of time and money. Imigrante
  • Score: -2

11:18am Tue 5 Aug 14

pinboy says...

I was a marshall at last years event. The majority of the people i spoke to were happy and interested, lots had come in especially to see the cyclists. I am not in a postion to know wether the shops didn't have such a good day but I am sure that thier comments are valid.

I do however question john88's comments regarding hardly anyone going shopping. I saw lots of people shopping (maybe not as many as normal but certainly not 'hardly any') .

I am sorry if the marshall you spoke to was rude (they all seemed very nice people to me, who were giving up a day for free to help the community, quite a few had been olymipc gamesmakers) but to be honest if you spoke to me in a similar way to you composed the above comment and with such a poor attitude I may have been tempted to direct you the wrong way too.

There were a few problems on the day but I am sure that as it was the first event lessons were learned, unless of course like john88 were are all perfect.
I was a marshall at last years event. The majority of the people i spoke to were happy and interested, lots had come in especially to see the cyclists. I am not in a postion to know wether the shops didn't have such a good day but I am sure that thier comments are valid. I do however question john88's comments regarding hardly anyone going shopping. I saw lots of people shopping (maybe not as many as normal but certainly not 'hardly any') . I am sorry if the marshall you spoke to was rude (they all seemed very nice people to me, who were giving up a day for free to help the community, quite a few had been olymipc gamesmakers) but to be honest if you spoke to me in a similar way to you composed the above comment and with such a poor attitude I may have been tempted to direct you the wrong way too. There were a few problems on the day but I am sure that as it was the first event lessons were learned, unless of course like john88 were are all perfect. pinboy
  • Score: 2

11:25am Tue 5 Aug 14

pattyvee says...

EpsomAndEwell wrote:
It puts Kingston on the mapsays Jerry Irving. This is the most ridiculous justification for selling out to the lycra wearing middle class and corporate sponsors.

I think he will find that people have actually heard of Kingston and know what's there. Having this cycle race is not going to attract extra business to Kingston.

it's just a nice day out for some at the expense of the local population and businesses.
Not all cyclists are middle class - it's much, much cheaper to have a bike than a car, and there are plenty of other ways of getting around without driving. I think part of the Olympic legacy is to try and encourage people to be more active and take up sports such as cycling, so if people leave the car at home for one day maybe that's not such a bad thing.
[quote][p][bold]EpsomAndEwell[/bold] wrote: It puts Kingston on the mapsays Jerry Irving. This is the most ridiculous justification for selling out to the lycra wearing middle class and corporate sponsors. I think he will find that people have actually heard of Kingston and know what's there. Having this cycle race is not going to attract extra business to Kingston. it's just a nice day out for some at the expense of the local population and businesses.[/p][/quote]Not all cyclists are middle class - it's much, much cheaper to have a bike than a car, and there are plenty of other ways of getting around without driving. I think part of the Olympic legacy is to try and encourage people to be more active and take up sports such as cycling, so if people leave the car at home for one day maybe that's not such a bad thing. pattyvee
  • Score: 2

11:40am Tue 5 Aug 14

SteveC1964 says...

helen59 wrote:
my goodness............

.....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.
but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough.
[quote][p][bold]helen59[/bold] wrote: my goodness............ .....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.[/p][/quote]but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough. SteveC1964
  • Score: 7

12:38pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Red_Rock says...

pinboy wrote:
I was a marshall at last years event. The majority of the people i spoke to were happy and interested, lots had come in especially to see the cyclists. I am not in a postion to know wether the shops didn't have such a good day but I am sure that thier comments are valid.

I do however question john88's comments regarding hardly anyone going shopping. I saw lots of people shopping (maybe not as many as normal but certainly not 'hardly any') .

I am sorry if the marshall you spoke to was rude (they all seemed very nice people to me, who were giving up a day for free to help the community, quite a few had been olymipc gamesmakers) but to be honest if you spoke to me in a similar way to you composed the above comment and with such a poor attitude I may have been tempted to direct you the wrong way too.

There were a few problems on the day but I am sure that as it was the first event lessons were learned, unless of course like john88 were are all perfect.
Shame you have to spoil your comments by insulting someone who has a different opinion to you. That, in my opinion, makes your other comments worthless.
[quote][p][bold]pinboy[/bold] wrote: I was a marshall at last years event. The majority of the people i spoke to were happy and interested, lots had come in especially to see the cyclists. I am not in a postion to know wether the shops didn't have such a good day but I am sure that thier comments are valid. I do however question john88's comments regarding hardly anyone going shopping. I saw lots of people shopping (maybe not as many as normal but certainly not 'hardly any') . I am sorry if the marshall you spoke to was rude (they all seemed very nice people to me, who were giving up a day for free to help the community, quite a few had been olymipc gamesmakers) but to be honest if you spoke to me in a similar way to you composed the above comment and with such a poor attitude I may have been tempted to direct you the wrong way too. There were a few problems on the day but I am sure that as it was the first event lessons were learned, unless of course like john88 were are all perfect.[/p][/quote]Shame you have to spoil your comments by insulting someone who has a different opinion to you. That, in my opinion, makes your other comments worthless. Red_Rock
  • Score: -5

4:04pm Tue 5 Aug 14

helen59 says...

SteveC1964 wrote:
helen59 wrote:
my goodness............


.....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.
but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough.
love your sense of humour SteveC1964. Brilliant.
[quote][p][bold]SteveC1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]helen59[/bold] wrote: my goodness............ .....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.[/p][/quote]but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough.[/p][/quote]love your sense of humour SteveC1964. Brilliant. helen59
  • Score: 1

4:44pm Tue 5 Aug 14

pinboy says...

Red_Rock wrote:
pinboy wrote:
I was a marshall at last years event. The majority of the people i spoke to were happy and interested, lots had come in especially to see the cyclists. I am not in a postion to know wether the shops didn't have such a good day but I am sure that thier comments are valid.

I do however question john88's comments regarding hardly anyone going shopping. I saw lots of people shopping (maybe not as many as normal but certainly not 'hardly any') .

I am sorry if the marshall you spoke to was rude (they all seemed very nice people to me, who were giving up a day for free to help the community, quite a few had been olymipc gamesmakers) but to be honest if you spoke to me in a similar way to you composed the above comment and with such a poor attitude I may have been tempted to direct you the wrong way too.

There were a few problems on the day but I am sure that as it was the first event lessons were learned, unless of course like john88 were are all perfect.
Shame you have to spoil your comments by insulting someone who has a different opinion to you. That, in my opinion, makes your other comments worthless.
Yep sorry about that john88. I was a bit frustrated with everybodys negativity regarding this. Lots of people gave up their time free of charge to help. To be called rude any unknowledgeble is equally as insulting. But two wrong don't make a right so I am sorry.
[quote][p][bold]Red_Rock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pinboy[/bold] wrote: I was a marshall at last years event. The majority of the people i spoke to were happy and interested, lots had come in especially to see the cyclists. I am not in a postion to know wether the shops didn't have such a good day but I am sure that thier comments are valid. I do however question john88's comments regarding hardly anyone going shopping. I saw lots of people shopping (maybe not as many as normal but certainly not 'hardly any') . I am sorry if the marshall you spoke to was rude (they all seemed very nice people to me, who were giving up a day for free to help the community, quite a few had been olymipc gamesmakers) but to be honest if you spoke to me in a similar way to you composed the above comment and with such a poor attitude I may have been tempted to direct you the wrong way too. There were a few problems on the day but I am sure that as it was the first event lessons were learned, unless of course like john88 were are all perfect.[/p][/quote]Shame you have to spoil your comments by insulting someone who has a different opinion to you. That, in my opinion, makes your other comments worthless.[/p][/quote]Yep sorry about that john88. I was a bit frustrated with everybodys negativity regarding this. Lots of people gave up their time free of charge to help. To be called rude any unknowledgeble is equally as insulting. But two wrong don't make a right so I am sorry. pinboy
  • Score: 6

6:17pm Tue 5 Aug 14

hershamite says...

It's outrageous that the local population is to be imprisoned for the day just so that cyclists can have a fun day out. It's a total infringement of our human rights. The event is just one big commercial for a large insurance company.
It's outrageous that the local population is to be imprisoned for the day just so that cyclists can have a fun day out. It's a total infringement of our human rights. The event is just one big commercial for a large insurance company. hershamite
  • Score: 8

9:18pm Tue 5 Aug 14

kingstonpaul says...

SteveC1964 wrote:
helen59 wrote:
my goodness............


.....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.
but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough.
Steve, why do you carpet bomb the readers with so many exclamation marks? Four at the end of your first sentence....they suggest that you find your smartass prose paralytically funny. It's like laughing at your own jokes.
Your style is gratuitously sneering. You've never met Helen, but you've picked on her as an easy target for yet more of your tedious insinuations about lifestyles that you clearly feel are inferior to your principled ideals. So why not just pi*s off, and keep muttering your musings to yourself, and save the rest of us from them.
[quote][p][bold]SteveC1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]helen59[/bold] wrote: my goodness............ .....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.[/p][/quote]but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough.[/p][/quote]Steve, why do you carpet bomb the readers with so many exclamation marks? Four at the end of your first sentence....they suggest that you find your smartass prose paralytically funny. It's like laughing at your own jokes. Your style is gratuitously sneering. You've never met Helen, but you've picked on her as an easy target for yet more of your tedious insinuations about lifestyles that you clearly feel are inferior to your principled ideals. So why not just pi*s off, and keep muttering your musings to yourself, and save the rest of us from them. kingstonpaul
  • Score: -3

12:41am Wed 6 Aug 14

Razor123 says...

hershamite wrote:
It's outrageous that the local population is to be imprisoned for the day just so that cyclists can have a fun day out. It's a total infringement of our human rights. The event is just one big commercial for a large insurance company.
Do you feel the same about the London Marathon?
This event has thousands of normal everyday people taking part who have trained for months and are raising money for charity. Many who are doing it in memory of loved ones lost. Please stand on the roadside and read some of the messages pinned to participant's backs on the reason they are taking part, your perspective on 'human rights' may hopefully change. The negative comments on this page are incredibly hurtful to these normal folk.
[quote][p][bold]hershamite[/bold] wrote: It's outrageous that the local population is to be imprisoned for the day just so that cyclists can have a fun day out. It's a total infringement of our human rights. The event is just one big commercial for a large insurance company.[/p][/quote]Do you feel the same about the London Marathon? This event has thousands of normal everyday people taking part who have trained for months and are raising money for charity. Many who are doing it in memory of loved ones lost. Please stand on the roadside and read some of the messages pinned to participant's backs on the reason they are taking part, your perspective on 'human rights' may hopefully change. The negative comments on this page are incredibly hurtful to these normal folk. Razor123
  • Score: 3

8:56am Wed 6 Aug 14

CyclistsPayTaxToo says...

hershamite wrote:
It's outrageous that the local population is to be imprisoned for the day just so that cyclists can have a fun day out. It's a total infringement of our human rights. The event is just one big commercial for a large insurance company.
NIMBY

28000 people, raising well over £20 million pounds for good causes is just frankly OUTRAGEOUS isn't it.

Imprisoned? how so? because you can't drive somewhere, what is it that's more important on Sunday that people doing stuff for charity.
[quote][p][bold]hershamite[/bold] wrote: It's outrageous that the local population is to be imprisoned for the day just so that cyclists can have a fun day out. It's a total infringement of our human rights. The event is just one big commercial for a large insurance company.[/p][/quote]NIMBY 28000 people, raising well over £20 million pounds for good causes is just frankly OUTRAGEOUS isn't it. Imprisoned? how so? because you can't drive somewhere, what is it that's more important on Sunday that people doing stuff for charity. CyclistsPayTaxToo
  • Score: 0

9:15am Wed 6 Aug 14

kingstonpaul says...

hershamite wrote:
It's outrageous that the local population is to be imprisoned for the day just so that cyclists can have a fun day out. It's a total infringement of our human rights. The event is just one big commercial for a large insurance company.
Come on, it's hardly an infringement of human rights is it? That's a bit insulting to those that are genuinely oppressed. Look, in any economy, each one of us undertakes activities that impose a 'cost' on others. For instance, every time you drive your car, you impose a cost on those that don't drive. On Sunday, it's the turn of cyclists to impose a (relatively small) cost on those that don't share their interest.
[quote][p][bold]hershamite[/bold] wrote: It's outrageous that the local population is to be imprisoned for the day just so that cyclists can have a fun day out. It's a total infringement of our human rights. The event is just one big commercial for a large insurance company.[/p][/quote]Come on, it's hardly an infringement of human rights is it? That's a bit insulting to those that are genuinely oppressed. Look, in any economy, each one of us undertakes activities that impose a 'cost' on others. For instance, every time you drive your car, you impose a cost on those that don't drive. On Sunday, it's the turn of cyclists to impose a (relatively small) cost on those that don't share their interest. kingstonpaul
  • Score: 1

10:19am Wed 6 Aug 14

SteveC1964 says...

kingstonpaul wrote:
SteveC1964 wrote:
helen59 wrote:
my goodness............



.....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.
but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough.
Steve, why do you carpet bomb the readers with so many exclamation marks? Four at the end of your first sentence....they suggest that you find your smartass prose paralytically funny. It's like laughing at your own jokes.
Your style is gratuitously sneering. You've never met Helen, but you've picked on her as an easy target for yet more of your tedious insinuations about lifestyles that you clearly feel are inferior to your principled ideals. So why not just pi*s off, and keep muttering your musings to yourself, and save the rest of us from them.
Oh dear. Satire IS dead then - because Paul doesn't recognise it.

I'm not picking on Helen because, actually, I agree with her. Helen evidently sees that and appreciates my humour. I don't enjoy your vulgarity Paul. Please leave it out, and try to find a better way to express yourself.
[quote][p][bold]kingstonpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SteveC1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]helen59[/bold] wrote: my goodness............ .....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.[/p][/quote]but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough.[/p][/quote]Steve, why do you carpet bomb the readers with so many exclamation marks? Four at the end of your first sentence....they suggest that you find your smartass prose paralytically funny. It's like laughing at your own jokes. Your style is gratuitously sneering. You've never met Helen, but you've picked on her as an easy target for yet more of your tedious insinuations about lifestyles that you clearly feel are inferior to your principled ideals. So why not just pi*s off, and keep muttering your musings to yourself, and save the rest of us from them.[/p][/quote]Oh dear. Satire IS dead then - because Paul doesn't recognise it. I'm not picking on Helen because, actually, I agree with her. Helen evidently sees that and appreciates my humour. I don't enjoy your vulgarity Paul. Please leave it out, and try to find a better way to express yourself. SteveC1964
  • Score: 6

12:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

kingstonpaul says...

SteveC1964 wrote:
kingstonpaul wrote:
SteveC1964 wrote:
helen59 wrote:
my goodness............




.....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.
but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough.
Steve, why do you carpet bomb the readers with so many exclamation marks? Four at the end of your first sentence....they suggest that you find your smartass prose paralytically funny. It's like laughing at your own jokes.
Your style is gratuitously sneering. You've never met Helen, but you've picked on her as an easy target for yet more of your tedious insinuations about lifestyles that you clearly feel are inferior to your principled ideals. So why not just pi*s off, and keep muttering your musings to yourself, and save the rest of us from them.
Oh dear. Satire IS dead then - because Paul doesn't recognise it.

I'm not picking on Helen because, actually, I agree with her. Helen evidently sees that and appreciates my humour. I don't enjoy your vulgarity Paul. Please leave it out, and try to find a better way to express yourself.
No, Steve, satire isn't dead thank goodness. But ridiculing people who choose to shop at TK Maxx qualifies as pretty low-rent satire. I prefer my satire to be more subtle, have more originality. And best of all, be funny.
[quote][p][bold]SteveC1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingstonpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SteveC1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]helen59[/bold] wrote: my goodness............ .....Kingston has one day of fun where everyone could get involved and people complain!!! Its summer for goodness sake .........get out there and enjoy yourselves - its a brilliant day.[/p][/quote]but Helen I simply MUST get to TK Maxx to go and buy some clothes!!!! I already have plenty of stuff but I need even more DISCOUNTED stuff. I love the American consumist way! And some of that bread from the Market Place at four quid a loaf! You surely don't expect me to go to a supermarket? I'll starve. Or shoul I go shopping in Surbiton or New Malden or Worcester Park???? Waahhh!!!!! Booo hoo!!! I wanna shop in Kingston. And did you know THERE ARE ONLY 141 DAYS 'TIL CHRISTMAS!!!!! 140 are not enough.[/p][/quote]Steve, why do you carpet bomb the readers with so many exclamation marks? Four at the end of your first sentence....they suggest that you find your smartass prose paralytically funny. It's like laughing at your own jokes. Your style is gratuitously sneering. You've never met Helen, but you've picked on her as an easy target for yet more of your tedious insinuations about lifestyles that you clearly feel are inferior to your principled ideals. So why not just pi*s off, and keep muttering your musings to yourself, and save the rest of us from them.[/p][/quote]Oh dear. Satire IS dead then - because Paul doesn't recognise it. I'm not picking on Helen because, actually, I agree with her. Helen evidently sees that and appreciates my humour. I don't enjoy your vulgarity Paul. Please leave it out, and try to find a better way to express yourself.[/p][/quote]No, Steve, satire isn't dead thank goodness. But ridiculing people who choose to shop at TK Maxx qualifies as pretty low-rent satire. I prefer my satire to be more subtle, have more originality. And best of all, be funny. kingstonpaul
  • Score: -12

3:21pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SteveC1964 says...

I wasn't ridiculing anyone who shops at TK Maxx, John Lewis or any of the scores of shops in the Bentall Centre, Clarence Street, Eden Street or wherever - or for that matter those pay £4 for a loaf of bread at the market. What I was getting at was that some people appear to be concerned that for the coming Sunday the shops in Kingston may be a quiet and that some people won't know what on Earth to do with their time if they feel they can't get to the shops. If I do that by using some specific examples, well that's simply to make it seem more real. Me? I shop all over the place, - everyone loves a bargain - but I don't need to go shopping this Sunday. You'd like me to stop commenting, eh? I won't stop commenting. The best thing to do is not read each other's posts. Let's show the rest of the world how to rub along alongside each other. May peace break out on the Surrey Comet website.
I wasn't ridiculing anyone who shops at TK Maxx, John Lewis or any of the scores of shops in the Bentall Centre, Clarence Street, Eden Street or wherever - or for that matter those pay £4 for a loaf of bread at the market. What I was getting at was that some people appear to be concerned that for the coming Sunday the shops in Kingston may be a quiet and that some people won't know what on Earth to do with their time if they feel they can't get to the shops. If I do that by using some specific examples, well that's simply to make it seem more real. Me? I shop all over the place, - everyone loves a bargain - but I don't need to go shopping this Sunday. You'd like me to stop commenting, eh? I won't stop commenting. The best thing to do is not read each other's posts. Let's show the rest of the world how to rub along alongside each other. May peace break out on the Surrey Comet website. SteveC1964
  • Score: 1

4:27pm Wed 6 Aug 14

S Leader says...

Yes lets have peace that is what the Memorial garden is for a Garden of PEACE AND TRAQUILITY not a play ground
Yes lets have peace that is what the Memorial garden is for a Garden of PEACE AND TRAQUILITY not a play ground S Leader
  • Score: 12

6:10pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Carla Dewaard says...

A cantankerous, grumpy, grouchy and miserable group of Comet readers. This is the norm month in & month out, really life in the borough is not that bad is it?
Of course it may be that negative pessimistic letters are simply written for attention seeking purposes?
A cantankerous, grumpy, grouchy and miserable group of Comet readers. This is the norm month in & month out, really life in the borough is not that bad is it? Of course it may be that negative pessimistic letters are simply written for attention seeking purposes? Carla Dewaard
  • Score: 0

4:08pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Mind the gap says...

My Australian friend always says that if there was an Olympic event for Whinging us Brits would clean up. Reading the comments above he's not wrong and I have to agree.
My Australian friend always says that if there was an Olympic event for Whinging us Brits would clean up. Reading the comments above he's not wrong and I have to agree. Mind the gap
  • Score: -1

6:09pm Mon 11 Aug 14

kpwabc says...

The problem with this event is the enormous and greedy area that gets blocked. I was trying to get home from Gatwick to Twickenham - it took 3.5 hours when it should take 1.
(Taxi was 1 hour late to get to Gatwick becasue he was stuck on M25 due to race blockages - then getting through Kingston to get to Richmond was molasses)
Do this thing once in a blue moon for Olympics OK, but not every year.

The route is utterly unacceptable - if instead they start in one place and end in another different location, then roads could be closed for 3 -4 hours at most - as it is they were closed all day.
What about people who had to get to Kingston hospital to give birth?
How many people missed their flights at the two major UK airports?
The problem with this event is the enormous and greedy area that gets blocked. I was trying to get home from Gatwick to Twickenham - it took 3.5 hours when it should take 1. (Taxi was 1 hour late to get to Gatwick becasue he was stuck on M25 due to race blockages - then getting through Kingston to get to Richmond was molasses) Do this thing once in a blue moon for Olympics OK, but not every year. The route is utterly unacceptable - if instead they start in one place and end in another different location, then roads could be closed for 3 -4 hours at most - as it is they were closed all day. What about people who had to get to Kingston hospital to give birth? How many people missed their flights at the two major UK airports? kpwabc
  • Score: 3

8:47am Wed 13 Aug 14

Razor123 says...

Train: Gatwick - Clapham Junction - Twickenham. Quicker and cheaper than a taxi, even if the Ride100 wasn't on!
Train: Gatwick - Clapham Junction - Twickenham. Quicker and cheaper than a taxi, even if the Ride100 wasn't on! Razor123
  • Score: 1

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