Ex-Organ and Dragon pub to be demolished

The ex-Organ and Dragon pub building, in London Road, Ewell

The ex-Organ and Dragon pub building, in London Road, Ewell

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The much-loved ex-Organ and Dragon pub is to be demolished.

The shock news was confirmed today by supermarket chain Lidl, which bought the site - on London Road, Ewell - from fast-food outlet KFC in February. 

Last year, residents rejoiced after KFC withdrew planning applications for the site of the old English pub and Thai restaurant, which shut in July 2012.

But a wrecking ball now hangs over the building, which had been home to a pub serving the community of Ewell since the 18th Century.

A spokesman for Epsom Council said it had received a ‘prior approval notification’ for demolition by Lidl at the end of February. 

But as Lidl owns the building, which is not listed or locally listed and is not in a conservation area, it does not need planning permission from Epsom Council to demolish it.

He said: "The building has no status so there was no way the council could have saved it from being demolished.

"The prior approval notification process exists to give the council the opportunity to check whether the building is listed or has any special status. 

"There was no case for saving the ex-Organ and Dragon building, so demolition has been permitted by default."

Clare Norman, spokeswoman for Lidl, said: "Lidl have been granted consent to demolish the existing building and Lidl intends to redevelop the site with a new Lidl food store.

"The plans are still at early design stage and a pre-application meeting will be set up with Epsom and Ewell Council in early Summer 2014."

To build a supermarket on the site after demolition, Lidl will require planning permission from Epsom Council’s planning committee.

In February, the Epsom Guardian ran a poll on this website to gauge how people felt about having a Lidl on the site and 52 per cent said they were in favour.

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The pub and Thai restaurant in its heyday

This was in stark contrast to the overwhelming opposition to KFC which saw 1,000 people sign a petition against that proposal.

Epsom council's planning committee twice rejected attempts by KFC to convert the existing building into a KFC restaurant and takeaway on the grounds that it would adversely impact highway safety and efficiency - a concern which was upheld by the Government’s planning inspector when KFC appealed the first rejection.

What do you think about the ex-Organ and Dragon building being demolished? Leave a comment below, call Hardeep Matharu on the newsdesk on 020 8722 6346 or email hmatharu@london.newsquest.co.uk.

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Residents united to sign a petition against proposals to turn the ex-Organ and Dragon pub into a KFC 

 

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8:49pm Tue 6 May 14

EwellMan says...

I suppose its just the changing face of Epsom and Ewell, some say for the better and some say for the worse.

I personally have fond memories of the Organ Inn Pub where i spent many an evening with Friends. It would be nice to save the building as is Iconic in the area but understand that it would not be much use for a supermarket.

The only criticism is i would of thought Lidl would of wanted to work with locals rather than demolish before even having planning permission for its replacement. I still think that is should be converted into flats like the Driftbridge.
I suppose its just the changing face of Epsom and Ewell, some say for the better and some say for the worse. I personally have fond memories of the Organ Inn Pub where i spent many an evening with Friends. It would be nice to save the building as is Iconic in the area but understand that it would not be much use for a supermarket. The only criticism is i would of thought Lidl would of wanted to work with locals rather than demolish before even having planning permission for its replacement. I still think that is should be converted into flats like the Driftbridge. EwellMan
  • Score: 12

9:24pm Tue 6 May 14

olipop1 says...

Criminal, getting rid of that for a square blocked building seems crazy. Why do we need a Lidl when an Aldi is being built just up the road. All just seems madness to me.
Criminal, getting rid of that for a square blocked building seems crazy. Why do we need a Lidl when an Aldi is being built just up the road. All just seems madness to me. olipop1
  • Score: 15

9:27pm Tue 6 May 14

CupraBear says...

If we carry on demolishing buildings at this rate, we will have no architectural heritage left.
If we carry on demolishing buildings at this rate, we will have no architectural heritage left. CupraBear
  • Score: 20

8:28am Wed 7 May 14

Angela M says...

Well done to all the campaigners who fought KFC and as a direct result may end up with a Lidl instead. Good work!

I wonder how they can get permission at all though - if KFC was refused on the grounds of traffic, smell and littering, I'm pretty sure a supermarket would be just as bad - if not worse - on all counts.

Incidentally, KFC remained sympathetic and co-operative during their ownership of this land, and had promised to retain the character of the original building that Lidl is going to demolish. I wonder if KFC sold the site to Lidl on purpose to annoy the locals...
Well done to all the campaigners who fought KFC and as a direct result may end up with a Lidl instead. Good work! I wonder how they can get permission at all though - if KFC was refused on the grounds of traffic, smell and littering, I'm pretty sure a supermarket would be just as bad - if not worse - on all counts. Incidentally, KFC remained sympathetic and co-operative during their ownership of this land, and had promised to retain the character of the original building that Lidl is going to demolish. I wonder if KFC sold the site to Lidl on purpose to annoy the locals... Angela M
  • Score: 11

9:49am Wed 7 May 14

labyrinth says...

olipop1 wrote:
Criminal, getting rid of that for a square blocked building seems crazy. Why do we need a Lidl when an Aldi is being built just up the road. All just seems madness to me.
Where is the Aldi to be built? Are you sure it is going ahead?
[quote][p][bold]olipop1[/bold] wrote: Criminal, getting rid of that for a square blocked building seems crazy. Why do we need a Lidl when an Aldi is being built just up the road. All just seems madness to me.[/p][/quote]Where is the Aldi to be built? Are you sure it is going ahead? labyrinth
  • Score: 0

10:42am Wed 7 May 14

Angela M says...

labyrinth wrote:
olipop1 wrote:
Criminal, getting rid of that for a square blocked building seems crazy. Why do we need a Lidl when an Aldi is being built just up the road. All just seems madness to me.
Where is the Aldi to be built? Are you sure it is going ahead?
I think the Aldi site is about a mile north on Kingston Road (near the top of Ruxley Lane).
[quote][p][bold]labyrinth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]olipop1[/bold] wrote: Criminal, getting rid of that for a square blocked building seems crazy. Why do we need a Lidl when an Aldi is being built just up the road. All just seems madness to me.[/p][/quote]Where is the Aldi to be built? Are you sure it is going ahead?[/p][/quote]I think the Aldi site is about a mile north on Kingston Road (near the top of Ruxley Lane). Angela M
  • Score: 3

10:43am Wed 7 May 14

Angela M says...

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http://www.epsomguar dian.co.uk/news/1074 3063.Plans_for_Aldi_ store_in_Ewell_appro ved_by_councillors/ Angela M
  • Score: 0

11:36am Wed 7 May 14

unebalam says...

There is still time to knock up a Petition to try to stop this building from being destroyed. In my experience if there is enough evidence that doing so would damage the companies reputation and if the locals swore not to use the store then Lidl would think again. I ahve seen even big multinationsla roll over to public pressure. I will be boycotting this store on principal.
There is still time to knock up a Petition to try to stop this building from being destroyed. In my experience if there is enough evidence that doing so would damage the companies reputation and if the locals swore not to use the store then Lidl would think again. I ahve seen even big multinationsla roll over to public pressure. I will be boycotting this store on principal. unebalam
  • Score: 3

1:12pm Wed 7 May 14

EwellMan says...

Its a crazy location for a Supermarket and i doubt planners will give permission for it to be built based on that fact. But Lidl must not be allowed to demolish the building until planning is agreed otherwise it will lay an empty space for years just like the site of the proposed tesco on the A3 next to Charrington Bowl.

The Problem with the Supermarkets is they have massive amounts of cash so keeping the land for years/decades is not a problem as they know rises in value each year even if nothing is done with it.
Its a crazy location for a Supermarket and i doubt planners will give permission for it to be built based on that fact. But Lidl must not be allowed to demolish the building until planning is agreed otherwise it will lay an empty space for years just like the site of the proposed tesco on the A3 next to Charrington Bowl. The Problem with the Supermarkets is they have massive amounts of cash so keeping the land for years/decades is not a problem as they know rises in value each year even if nothing is done with it. EwellMan
  • Score: 8

2:09pm Wed 7 May 14

Epsom Dan says...

You all started a petition to stop it from becoming a KFC now its becoming Lidl.
This building has history and should not be allowed to be demolished!!!

You people have lost the plot.
God i can't wait to move out of this area.
You all started a petition to stop it from becoming a KFC now its becoming Lidl. This building has history and should not be allowed to be demolished!!! You people have lost the plot. God i can't wait to move out of this area. Epsom Dan
  • Score: 13

12:51pm Tue 13 May 14

Mr Boe says...

Kentucky...Lidl..... anything commercial is going to draw more parking issues, so whats the difference? At least with KFC people would have been in and out in minutes!
Kentucky...Lidl..... anything commercial is going to draw more parking issues, so whats the difference? At least with KFC people would have been in and out in minutes! Mr Boe
  • Score: 1

5:25pm Thu 22 May 14

spamcan says...

l go along with the majority, the traffics busy at this junction and in the times it was a pub the movement of cars in and out was not too much of a problem. As already suggested a retirement home would solve the problem as a developer would possibly keep the building with just the odd extensions. Maybe the building should be listed tomorrow/next week!!!
l go along with the majority, the traffics busy at this junction and in the times it was a pub the movement of cars in and out was not too much of a problem. As already suggested a retirement home would solve the problem as a developer would possibly keep the building with just the odd extensions. Maybe the building should be listed tomorrow/next week!!! spamcan
  • Score: 1

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