Witnesses sought after cyclist throws drink at driver on Twickenham Bridge

Police appeal: Did you see the incident?

Police appeal: Did you see the incident?

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Police are appealing for witnesses after a cyclist threw a drink at a driver and was abusive on Twickenham Bridge earlier this year.

The rush hour clash, on the A316 towards Richmond on Thursday, March 13, was sparked when the 27-year-old female driver asked the cyclist why he was not using the cycle lane.

She stopped at a red light at about 7.20am and said to the cyclist, a white man wearing a light blue jacket, if he knew there was a cycle path.

The cyclist, aged between about 45 and 50-years-old, had been cycling in the middle of the busy A road and causing an obstruction.

After he was confronted he shouted and swore at the driver and threw a drink at her before he cycled off towards the Richmond Circus roundabout.

PC Simon Amor said: “This was a very distressing incident for the victim that has left her shaken up and humiliated.

“It took place on a busy stretch of the road at a time in the morning when there would have been a number of other road users who may have witnessed the incident.

“We are asking for any witnesses to contact police as soon as possible so that we can hopefully identify the cyclist concerned.”

Police have asked anyone with information to help identify the suspect to contact Richmond them on 101 or to remain anonymous call Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

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8:55am Wed 30 Apr 14

Ludovic says...

Are we talking about the bridge where cycle lanes are bumpy and whose approaches are badly designed (intersected by crossing roads, etc)?

In any case, this gentleman had every right to be on the road.

The headline of the article should thus be: "Badly designed cycle path causes road rage"
Are we talking about the bridge where cycle lanes are bumpy and whose approaches are badly designed (intersected by crossing roads, etc)? In any case, this gentleman had every right to be on the road. The headline of the article should thus be: "Badly designed cycle path causes road rage" Ludovic
  • Score: 22

5:15pm Wed 30 Apr 14

jubileeboy says...

Cyclist's are perfectly entitled to use the road for one, the woman has no right to tell someone on a bike they shouldn't be there. Secondly, we have the account here from one side, from a person whose emotions were stirred by the encounter, presented as fact. How do we know the position of the rider on the road wasn't taken to avoid potholes and drains? How de we know the driver wasn't abusive to or drove too close to the cyclist as she passed and thereby angered him ? The man on the bike may indeed have behaved like an idiot; so might the woman in the car. Let's not present emotion-fuelled opinion as fact.
Cyclist's are perfectly entitled to use the road for one, the woman has no right to tell someone on a bike they shouldn't be there. Secondly, we have the account here from one side, from a person whose emotions were stirred by the encounter, presented as fact. How do we know the position of the rider on the road wasn't taken to avoid potholes and drains? How de we know the driver wasn't abusive to or drove too close to the cyclist as she passed and thereby angered him ? The man on the bike may indeed have behaved like an idiot; so might the woman in the car. Let's not present emotion-fuelled opinion as fact. jubileeboy
  • Score: 23

6:57pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Twickenham Bob says...

This does not make the police look good at all.

The local police have a reputation for targeting cyclists as 'easy pickings' to hit targets. Meanwhile they do nothing about constant day-in day-out speeding and aggressive driving on the main roads in the borough.

The local police have decided that speeding is not something they will deal with – despite the overwhelming wish of local electors - whilst picking on cyclists who are drive on pavements because of aggressive motorists.

It sounds like there needs to be change at the top of the local police force; and Detective Superintendent Debra Towns should go if she can’t see the crux of the situation above.
This does not make the police look good at all. The local police have a reputation for targeting cyclists as 'easy pickings' to hit targets. Meanwhile they do nothing about constant day-in day-out speeding and aggressive driving on the main roads in the borough. The local police have decided that speeding is not something they will deal with – despite the overwhelming wish of local electors - whilst picking on cyclists who are drive on pavements because of aggressive motorists. It sounds like there needs to be change at the top of the local police force; and Detective Superintendent Debra Towns should go if she can’t see the crux of the situation above. Twickenham Bob
  • Score: 23

8:09pm Wed 30 Apr 14

metis says...

Driver asks a reasonable question. Cyclist riding in the MIDDLE of a busy A road, gets abusive and throws drink at her. That is pretty indefensible in anyones book.
Driver asks a reasonable question. Cyclist riding in the MIDDLE of a busy A road, gets abusive and throws drink at her. That is pretty indefensible in anyones book. metis
  • Score: -16

10:12pm Wed 30 Apr 14

ruggabugga says...

Must be a quiet day for the police and R&TT journos!

Shame about the unbalanced piece referring to non-existent traffic lights on Twickenham Bridge. Sloppy reporting.
Must be a quiet day for the police and R&TT journos! Shame about the unbalanced piece referring to non-existent traffic lights on Twickenham Bridge. Sloppy reporting. ruggabugga
  • Score: 13

12:03am Thu 1 May 14

lucasA says...

Ludovic wrote:
Are we talking about the bridge where cycle lanes are bumpy and whose approaches are badly designed (intersected by crossing roads, etc)?

In any case, this gentleman had every right to be on the road.

The headline of the article should thus be: "Badly designed cycle path causes road rageCyclists are so self righteous, you're not a pedigree you're just a bunch of moaners. How about paying road tax if you want to be treated equally?
[quote][p][bold]Ludovic[/bold] wrote: Are we talking about the bridge where cycle lanes are bumpy and whose approaches are badly designed (intersected by crossing roads, etc)? In any case, this gentleman had every right to be on the road. The headline of the article should thus be: "Badly designed cycle path causes road rageCyclists are so self righteous, you're not a pedigree you're just a bunch of moaners. How about paying road tax if you want to be treated equally? lucasA
  • Score: -14

7:29am Thu 1 May 14

dellboy twick. says...

This incident is over six weeks old, leaving it bit late asking for witnesses.
Oh dear the road tax thing again! it's excise licence not road tax, roads are funded from general taxation. Excise is levied on engine size and emissions, electric and hybrid cars are exempt. Cyclist can join the LCC, London cycle campaign,it covers third party insurance.
Yes there are shared cycle paths along the 316 except for the side roads and roundabouts. Whiton and St. Margarets have two pedestrian crossings each but the London road roundabout you have to take a chance.
Joining the Avenue you have a choice, if at Richmond circus you want the Kew road stay on the cycle path but beware the pedestrians using the shared path between the Avenue and Kew road.If you are continuing along the 316 it's easier to stay on the road.
The traffic lights I think are the ones controlling the access to pools on the park . Since when is a cycle an obstruction, if so the police could remove all cycles from the roads on the say so of any driver complaining, somehow I think not.
This incident is over six weeks old, leaving it bit late asking for witnesses. Oh dear the road tax thing again! it's excise licence not road tax, roads are funded from general taxation. Excise is levied on engine size and emissions, electric and hybrid cars are exempt. Cyclist can join the LCC, London cycle campaign,it covers third party insurance. Yes there are shared cycle paths along the 316 except for the side roads and roundabouts. Whiton and St. Margarets have two pedestrian crossings each but the London road roundabout you have to take a chance. Joining the Avenue you have a choice, if at Richmond circus you want the Kew road stay on the cycle path but beware the pedestrians using the shared path between the Avenue and Kew road.If you are continuing along the 316 it's easier to stay on the road. The traffic lights I think are the ones controlling the access to pools on the park . Since when is a cycle an obstruction, if so the police could remove all cycles from the roads on the say so of any driver complaining, somehow I think not. dellboy twick.
  • Score: 25

9:25am Thu 1 May 14

This is me says...

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There is no such thing as road tax and there hasn't been since 1937 when Winston Churchill abolished it. Funding for the roads (or "road tax" as you call it) is now taken from general taxation. That is income tax, capital gains tax, VAT and all the others.

Everyone pays road tax, through their general taxation so everyone has as much right as anyone else to use the roads. You could argue that someone who earns more than you has a greater right to use the roads as they have paid more towards them through income tax. But I don't argue that, I'm making a point.

You are talking about Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), which is what you pay for your tax disc. This does NOT pay for the roads, it doesn't raise nearly enough to do so and never has.

Guess where VED goes to? I'll tell you, general taxation too. The tax disc pays for everything, from the NHS, to the Police, to your local council bin collections.

I'll rephrase the most important point here. EVERYONE PAYS FOR THE ROADS THROUGH GENERAL TAXATION, YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL BECAUSE YOU OWN A CAR AND HAVE A TAX DISC. EVERYONE ON THE ROADS SHOULD BE TREATED WITH RESPECT, BE WE ON BICYCLES, UNICYCLES, SCOOTERS, WALKING OR IN CARS.

ANYONE IS "ALLOWED" TO BE USING THE ROADS AND HAS ALREADY PAID FOR THAT PRIVILEGE.

Got that? Pass it on to everyone else.

[Takes a deep breath]. There is no such thing as road tax and there hasn't been since 1937 when Winston Churchill abolished it. Funding for the roads (or "road tax" as you call it) is now taken from general taxation. That is income tax, capital gains tax, VAT and all the others. Everyone pays road tax, through their general taxation so everyone has as much right as anyone else to use the roads. You could argue that someone who earns more than you has a greater right to use the roads as they have paid more towards them through income tax. But I don't argue that, I'm making a point. You are talking about Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), which is what you pay for your tax disc. This does NOT pay for the roads, it doesn't raise nearly enough to do so and never has. Guess where VED goes to? I'll tell you, general taxation too. The tax disc pays for everything, from the NHS, to the Police, to your local council bin collections. I'll rephrase the most important point here. EVERYONE PAYS FOR THE ROADS THROUGH GENERAL TAXATION, YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL BECAUSE YOU OWN A CAR AND HAVE A TAX DISC. EVERYONE ON THE ROADS SHOULD BE TREATED WITH RESPECT, BE WE ON BICYCLES, UNICYCLES, SCOOTERS, WALKING OR IN CARS. ANYONE IS "ALLOWED" TO BE USING THE ROADS AND HAS ALREADY PAID FOR THAT PRIVILEGE. Got that? Pass it on to everyone else. [ends rant and I am a qualified accountant and have passed my taxation exams, so do know what I'm talking about.] This is me
  • Score: 13

9:46am Thu 1 May 14

metis says...

Ah, yes I get it now.
Common assault and aggressive behaviour is rightly condemned in a civilised society, except if it is done by a cyclist; because cyclists are victims, a persecuted minority, whose heroic battle against the evil motorist in order to save the planet is such a worthy cause.
Thanks for putting us in the picture.
Ah, yes I get it now. Common assault and aggressive behaviour is rightly condemned in a civilised society, except if it is done by a cyclist; because cyclists are victims, a persecuted minority, whose heroic battle against the evil motorist in order to save the planet is such a worthy cause. Thanks for putting us in the picture. metis
  • Score: -4

1:34pm Thu 1 May 14

burtthebike says...

"This was a very distressing incident for the victim that has left her shaken up and humiliated."

Must be a first for a driver, but it happens to thousands of cyclists every day, as drivers ignore them, or force their way through too narrow gaps and behave as if they own the road and cyclists have no rights.

Unfortunately, many of these incidents end up with much worse effects than just being shaken up and humiliated, with death and injury for the cyclist. Perhaps the driver in this case should try riding a bike at the same place and she might just see that the cyclist was behaving in a way to keep him safe, not obstructing traffic just to be awkward.

Have the police pointed out to her that her behaviour was the cause of the incident and that you shouldn't tell other people how to behave unless what they are doing is clearly illegal and dangerous?
"This was a very distressing incident for the victim that has left her shaken up and humiliated." Must be a first for a driver, but it happens to thousands of cyclists every day, as drivers ignore them, or force their way through too narrow gaps and behave as if they own the road and cyclists have no rights. Unfortunately, many of these incidents end up with much worse effects than just being shaken up and humiliated, with death and injury for the cyclist. Perhaps the driver in this case should try riding a bike at the same place and she might just see that the cyclist was behaving in a way to keep him safe, not obstructing traffic just to be awkward. Have the police pointed out to her that her behaviour was the cause of the incident and that you shouldn't tell other people how to behave unless what they are doing is clearly illegal and dangerous? burtthebike
  • Score: 8

1:46pm Thu 1 May 14

Dr.Dom says...

"The rush hour clash was sparked when the 27-year-old female driver asked the cyclist why he was not using the cycle lane."

Yes, as if she said in dulcet tones: "Pardon me, but why aren't you using the cycled lane?". I reckon it was more like "Oi, why aren't you in the cycle lane, w**ker?".
"The rush hour clash was sparked when the 27-year-old female driver asked the cyclist why he was not using the cycle lane." Yes, as if she said in dulcet tones: "Pardon me, but why aren't you using the cycled lane?". I reckon it was more like "Oi, why aren't you in the cycle lane, w**ker?". Dr.Dom
  • Score: 8

3:00pm Thu 1 May 14

SAHSAH says...

Why was the driver asking the cyclist i why he wasn't using the cycle lane - none of her business. Drivers should concentrate on driving safely, not haranguing everyone else who has the temerity to try to also legally use the road.
Why was the driver asking the cyclist i why he wasn't using the cycle lane - none of her business. Drivers should concentrate on driving safely, not haranguing everyone else who has the temerity to try to also legally use the road. SAHSAH
  • Score: 15

9:57am Fri 2 May 14

alphabeti says...

Most cycle lanes are unbelievably crap. In any case there is no legal requirement to ride on the road. Also.. 'causing an obstruction'.. are you kidding? So this woman got to the next red light or queue of traffic slightly later than she would have done. Big deal.
Most cycle lanes are unbelievably crap. In any case there is no legal requirement to ride on the road. Also.. 'causing an obstruction'.. are you kidding? So this woman got to the next red light or queue of traffic slightly later than she would have done. Big deal. alphabeti
  • Score: 5

10:01am Fri 2 May 14

alphabeti says...

alphabeti wrote:
Most cycle lanes are unbelievably crap. In any case there is no legal requirement to ride on the road. Also.. 'causing an obstruction'.. are you kidding? So this woman got to the next red light or queue of traffic slightly later than she would have done. Big deal.
I do of course mean 'no legal requirement to ride in a cycle lane'.
[quote][p][bold]alphabeti[/bold] wrote: Most cycle lanes are unbelievably crap. In any case there is no legal requirement to ride on the road. Also.. 'causing an obstruction'.. are you kidding? So this woman got to the next red light or queue of traffic slightly later than she would have done. Big deal.[/p][/quote]I do of course mean 'no legal requirement to ride in a cycle lane'. alphabeti
  • Score: 6

11:21am Fri 2 May 14

TimothyM says...

The cyclist has every right to be in the road.
The cycle lane along there is of poor qaulity, and then become dangerous as it passes the Old Deer Park ground exit.
How was he causing an obstruction when there are two lanes in the road? Could the driver not think to use the outer lane to overtake safely?

"was sparked when the 27-year-old female driver asked the cyclist why he was not using the cycle lane." - More probably shouted at him to get on the cycle lane.
The cyclist has every right to be in the road. The cycle lane along there is of poor qaulity, and then become dangerous as it passes the Old Deer Park ground exit. How was he causing an obstruction when there are two lanes in the road? Could the driver not think to use the outer lane to overtake safely? "was sparked when the 27-year-old female driver asked the cyclist why he was not using the cycle lane." - More probably shouted at him to get on the cycle lane. TimothyM
  • Score: 2

10:44pm Sat 3 May 14

Surreydon says...

You poor, hard done by cyclists! You whinge when there aren't cycle lanes and don't use them when there are!
Get a grip, get trained, get insured and get off your soapboxes.
You poor, hard done by cyclists! You whinge when there aren't cycle lanes and don't use them when there are! Get a grip, get trained, get insured and get off your soapboxes. Surreydon
  • Score: -4

8:08am Thu 8 May 14

dellboy twick. says...

Surreydon wrote:
You poor, hard done by cyclists! You whinge when there aren't cycle lanes and don't use them when there are!
Get a grip, get trained, get insured and get off your soapboxes.
Since 2010 the number of uninsured motorists has reduced from 2 million too 1.2 million; over the same period 54 cyclists have been killed in London alone. Most cyclist are insured via membership of cycle organisations or their own motor insurance. Soapboxes will remain until cycle lanes are fit for purpose and motorists stop killing cyclists.
[quote][p][bold]Surreydon[/bold] wrote: You poor, hard done by cyclists! You whinge when there aren't cycle lanes and don't use them when there are! Get a grip, get trained, get insured and get off your soapboxes.[/p][/quote]Since 2010 the number of uninsured motorists has reduced from 2 million too 1.2 million; over the same period 54 cyclists have been killed in London alone. Most cyclist are insured via membership of cycle organisations or their own motor insurance. Soapboxes will remain until cycle lanes are fit for purpose and motorists stop killing cyclists. dellboy twick.
  • Score: 2

10:08am Fri 9 May 14

Charlie Twix says...

I used to cycle that route daily to get to work. The cycle lane is dangerous and therefore I did not use it as I am legally entitled to do. I was regularly abused by ignorant motorist telling me to get off the road. On one occasion a bus diver opened his doors to shout obscenities at me. When I caught up with him and pointed out I was perfectly entitled to be on the road, he responded by driving into me and breaking my bike. The police were called but did nothing. It is the law abiding cyclists using this road that the police and press should be trying to protect from the motorists who break the law almost daily by abusing them.
I used to cycle that route daily to get to work. The cycle lane is dangerous and therefore I did not use it as I am legally entitled to do. I was regularly abused by ignorant motorist telling me to get off the road. On one occasion a bus diver opened his doors to shout obscenities at me. When I caught up with him and pointed out I was perfectly entitled to be on the road, he responded by driving into me and breaking my bike. The police were called but did nothing. It is the law abiding cyclists using this road that the police and press should be trying to protect from the motorists who break the law almost daily by abusing them. Charlie Twix
  • Score: 0

6:33pm Fri 9 May 14

metis says...

Bit late getting the twitter alert from the two-wheel taliban eh Twixie!!
Bit late getting the twitter alert from the two-wheel taliban eh Twixie!! metis
  • Score: -1

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