Council leader will not be taking action over member's 'disgusting' Facebook posts

Councillor Tom Davey has apologised for

Councillor Tom Davey has apologised for "unacceptable" Facebook posts

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The leader of the council has refused calls to “take action” after one of his Tory councillors posted derogatory comments about “benefit claiming scum”, black people, lesbians and disabled people on Facebook.

Councillor Tom Davey came under fire from the Barnet Labour group, who said the posts he made on the social networking site in 2008 and 2009 were "disgusting" and “unacceptable”.

The posts, which have since been republished online via Political Scrapbook, referred to “benefit claiming scum” and in another Cllr Davey said he was “more excited than Harold Shipman in a nursing home”.

Cllr Davey issued a statement to the Times Series apologising for the comments, and said they were intended to be “jokey saloon bar humour”.

But leader of the Labour group Cllr Alison Moore, said Cllr Davey was “not fit for office” and motioned for council leader Cllr Richard Cornelius, to take action.

Speaking to the Times Series, Cllr Cornelius said: “Cllr Davey's issued a fulsome apology. But, it was a long time ago.

“As far as I’m concerned he’s apologised and the matter is closed. I think he very much regrets having said that.”

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6:07pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Rog T says...

Richard Cornelius is quite right to take no action, That is the job of the voters at the election in May. It is good to see that the Times has let the public know what passes Mr Davey has to say, so they can make an informed decision when casting their vote in Hale Ward.

I am however surprised that we've not seen the apology that Mr Cornelius refers to. Maybe the Times could publish it in full, so the publish could see if it is from the Maria Miller school of apologies
Richard Cornelius is quite right to take no action, That is the job of the voters at the election in May. It is good to see that the Times has let the public know what passes Mr Davey has to say, so they can make an informed decision when casting their vote in Hale Ward. I am however surprised that we've not seen the apology that Mr Cornelius refers to. Maybe the Times could publish it in full, so the publish could see if it is from the Maria Miller school of apologies Rog T
  • Score: 7

6:11pm Wed 16 Apr 14

BarnetTrader says...

I think what really matters is that these remarks show the sort of mind we are dealing with here.

It is a display of the moral turpitude that Davey and his fellow Conservative councillors are afflicted with. That these morally and intellectually challenged individuals have got away with destroying our council services and asset stripping the borough simply beggars belief.

ABC - Anyone But Conservative on 22nd May please.
I think what really matters is that these remarks show the sort of mind we are dealing with here. It is a display of the moral turpitude that Davey and his fellow Conservative councillors are afflicted with. That these morally and intellectually challenged individuals have got away with destroying our council services and asset stripping the borough simply beggars belief. ABC - Anyone But Conservative on 22nd May please. BarnetTrader
  • Score: 6

7:06pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Jon10 says...

More to the point, why has housing regeneration -his portfolio - been so pathetically slow in Barnet?

Tony Blair governed during an economic boom (thanks to China industrialising, not due to him) and many local authorities in London modernised much of its housing stock during those years.

Barnet just sat on its hands for a decade.

Now that the West Hendon estate is falling apart, it is (still) demanding huge sums from residents that should have proved unnecessary.
More to the point, why has housing regeneration -his portfolio - been so pathetically slow in Barnet? Tony Blair governed during an economic boom (thanks to China industrialising, not due to him) and many local authorities in London modernised much of its housing stock during those years. Barnet just sat on its hands for a decade. Now that the West Hendon estate is falling apart, it is (still) demanding huge sums from residents that should have proved unnecessary. Jon10
  • Score: 5

8:25pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Don't Call Me Dave says...

Rog

I am pleased to see you have come round to the view that it is for voters to decide whether a councillor should remain in office. If Cllr Davey is re-elected next month, I trust that you will respect the decision of the electorate. Ditto in Totteridge if Coleman is re-elected.
Rog I am pleased to see you have come round to the view that it is for voters to decide whether a councillor should remain in office. If Cllr Davey is re-elected next month, I trust that you will respect the decision of the electorate. Ditto in Totteridge if Coleman is re-elected. Don't Call Me Dave
  • Score: -7

9:12pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Rog T says...

David what a strange comment. What do you expect me to do if either wins? I will still thonk one is an idiot and the other will still be a criminal scumbag. And if people vote for people like that i will think that they are etremely stupid and despair at the fact. Rather as you do when someone you dont like gets electrdx
David what a strange comment. What do you expect me to do if either wins? I will still thonk one is an idiot and the other will still be a criminal scumbag. And if people vote for people like that i will think that they are etremely stupid and despair at the fact. Rather as you do when someone you dont like gets electrdx Rog T
  • Score: 5

11:58pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Neville Longbottom says...

Vote Coleman. I will be.

After all, he fits in with Anyone But Conservatives.

BarnetTrader agrees.
Vote Coleman. I will be. After all, he fits in with Anyone But Conservatives. BarnetTrader agrees. Neville Longbottom
  • Score: -4

12:53am Thu 17 Apr 14

Don't Call Me Dave says...

Not strange at all Rog. You have been calling for a certain councillor to be removed from the council for some time. But it shouldn't be up to a few political activists to decide such matters. Except in certain cases as prescribed by law, even scum bags are allowed to stand for election. And if voters vote for someone you think is a scum bag, you have to respect the result and not call them idiots. People I dislike get elected all the time, but calling the voters names is probably not the best way of winning them over to your argument.
Not strange at all Rog. You have been calling for a certain councillor to be removed from the council for some time. But it shouldn't be up to a few political activists to decide such matters. Except in certain cases as prescribed by law, even scum bags are allowed to stand for election. And if voters vote for someone you think is a scum bag, you have to respect the result and not call them idiots. People I dislike get elected all the time, but calling the voters names is probably not the best way of winning them over to your argument. Don't Call Me Dave
  • Score: 0

9:48am Thu 17 Apr 14

NorthWestLondonResident says...

Wow...newsflash! Someone wrote a comment on Facebook that may seem "offensive" to the non-intended audience 5 years later. Seriously? Get over it.
Wow...newsflash! Someone wrote a comment on Facebook that may seem "offensive" to the non-intended audience 5 years later. Seriously? Get over it. NorthWestLondonResident
  • Score: -9

12:42pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Andrew Haynes says...

So Councillor Cornelius says: “Cllr Davey's issued a fulsome apology. But, it was a long time ago. As far as I’m concerned he’s apologised and the matter is closed. I think he very much regrets having said that.”

Let’s analyse that statement.

Cornelius admits that Davey’s apology was “fulsome”. According to my dictionary, “fulsome” means “excessive or insincere, especially in an offensive or distasteful way”. I suspect that Davey’s apology was indeed insincere and therefore as offensive and distasteful as his sick Facebook comments about “benefit claiming scum”, black people, lesbians and disabled people.

Cornelius goes on: “But it was a long time ago”. Personally I do not consider 2008 and 2009 to be “a long time ago”. Davey was elected to the council in 2010 and I doubt that his obnoxious views had changed over a year or two.

Then: “As far as I’m concerned he’s apologised and the matter is closed.” Rubbish! You cannot declare a contentious matter closed simply because the the perpetrator has been persuaded to issue a phony apology. Cornelius is just trying to brush the excrement under the carpet to protect his slimy colleague.

And finally: “I think he very much regrets having said that.” I’m sure Davey regrets it, but he no doubt regrets it mainly because publicity for his repugnant views threatens his 2015 re-election prospects. Is there any evidence that he feels genuine remorse? I haven’t seen any.

Davey himself certainly cannot excuse his vile comments by dismissing them as “jokey saloon bar humour”. That’s just a mealy-mouthed way of admitting that his comments were indeed offensive and distasteful.

Any councillor with such a heartless attitude to minority groups is clearly unfit for the role. In particular, Davey does not deserve to be Barnet’s cabinet member for housing. The housing role should never have gone to someone who has displayed such a callous attitude towards people who may be in particular need of help with housing, such as those with disabilities.

If the council had any integrity, it would sack Davey from his housing role and de-select him for the next Hale ward election.
So Councillor Cornelius says: “Cllr Davey's issued a fulsome apology. But, it was a long time ago. As far as I’m concerned he’s apologised and the matter is closed. I think he very much regrets having said that.” Let’s analyse that statement. Cornelius admits that Davey’s apology was “fulsome”. According to my dictionary, “fulsome” means “excessive or insincere, especially in an offensive or distasteful way”. I suspect that Davey’s apology was indeed insincere and therefore as offensive and distasteful as his sick Facebook comments about “benefit claiming scum”, black people, lesbians and disabled people. Cornelius goes on: “But it was a long time ago”. Personally I do not consider 2008 and 2009 to be “a long time ago”. Davey was elected to the council in 2010 and I doubt that his obnoxious views had changed over a year or two. Then: “As far as I’m concerned he’s apologised and the matter is closed.” Rubbish! You cannot declare a contentious matter closed simply because the the perpetrator has been persuaded to issue a phony apology. Cornelius is just trying to brush the excrement under the carpet to protect his slimy colleague. And finally: “I think he very much regrets having said that.” I’m sure Davey regrets it, but he no doubt regrets it mainly because publicity for his repugnant views threatens his 2015 re-election prospects. Is there any evidence that he feels genuine remorse? I haven’t seen any. Davey himself certainly cannot excuse his vile comments by dismissing them as “jokey saloon bar humour”. That’s just a mealy-mouthed way of admitting that his comments were indeed offensive and distasteful. Any councillor with such a heartless attitude to minority groups is clearly unfit for the role. In particular, Davey does not deserve to be Barnet’s cabinet member for housing. The housing role should never have gone to someone who has displayed such a callous attitude towards people who may be in particular need of help with housing, such as those with disabilities. If the council had any integrity, it would sack Davey from his housing role and de-select him for the next Hale ward election. Andrew Haynes
  • Score: 7

1:03pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Edgar de Jarnac says...

NorthWestLondonResid
ent
wrote:
Wow...newsflash! Someone wrote a comment on Facebook that may seem "offensive" to the non-intended audience 5 years later. Seriously? Get over it.
Wow! Newsflash! NorthWestLondonResid
ent is a complete jerk! Does NWLR really believe that Davey's loathsome views must have melted away over five years? Seriously? Get over it!

And NWLR's reference to a "non-intended audience" is a real giveaway. So it's OK for Davey to slag off “benefit claiming scum”, black people, lesbians and disabled people so long as this "non-intended audience" do not get to read his obnoxious insults? How sick!

To my mind, the word "scum" is more appropriately applied to Tom Davey and NorthWestLondonResid
ent than to those who are forced to claim benefits because of health and social problems.
[quote][p][bold]NorthWestLondonResid ent[/bold] wrote: Wow...newsflash! Someone wrote a comment on Facebook that may seem "offensive" to the non-intended audience 5 years later. Seriously? Get over it.[/p][/quote]Wow! Newsflash! NorthWestLondonResid ent is a complete jerk! Does NWLR really believe that Davey's loathsome views must have melted away over five years? Seriously? Get over it! And NWLR's reference to a "non-intended audience" is a real giveaway. So it's OK for Davey to slag off “benefit claiming scum”, black people, lesbians and disabled people so long as this "non-intended audience" do not get to read his obnoxious insults? How sick! To my mind, the word "scum" is more appropriately applied to Tom Davey and NorthWestLondonResid ent than to those who are forced to claim benefits because of health and social problems. Edgar de Jarnac
  • Score: 5

6:07pm Fri 18 Apr 14

Wombatz says...

Hi Andrew Haynes,

Very good analysis of Cornelius' statement apart from a couple of minor errors. Davey was elected through a by-election in 2008 so WAS a councillor when at least some of those comments were made.

Also he faces the electorate next month on 22nd May not 2015 so here's hoping. Over to you good people of Hale...
Hi Andrew Haynes, Very good analysis of Cornelius' statement apart from a couple of minor errors. Davey was elected through a by-election in 2008 so WAS a councillor when at least some of those comments were made. Also he faces the electorate next month on 22nd May not 2015 so here's hoping. Over to you good people of Hale... Wombatz
  • Score: 7

3:30pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Andrew Haynes says...

Hi Wombatz

Thanks for correcting my errors. The fact that Davey was elected through a by-election in 2008 makes his atrocity even worse. Let's hope the voters in Hale ward have the integrity to dump this odious man. (And the same goes for the Totteridge ward electors with regards to the repugnant Brian Coleman.)
Hi Wombatz Thanks for correcting my errors. The fact that Davey was elected through a by-election in 2008 makes his atrocity even worse. Let's hope the voters in Hale ward have the integrity to dump this odious man. (And the same goes for the Totteridge ward electors with regards to the repugnant Brian Coleman.) Andrew Haynes
  • Score: 4

7:27pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Neville Longbottom says...

Edgar is a Jerk. Say nuttin.
Edgar is a Jerk. Say nuttin. Neville Longbottom
  • Score: -5

8:14pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Andrew Haynes says...

Neville Longbottom wrote:
Edgar is a Jerk. Say nuttin.
What is the point of this posting? Indeed, what is the point of Neville Longbottom?
[quote][p][bold]Neville Longbottom[/bold] wrote: Edgar is a Jerk. Say nuttin.[/p][/quote]What is the point of this posting? Indeed, what is the point of Neville Longbottom? Andrew Haynes
  • Score: 0

1:47am Sun 20 Apr 14

Neville Longbottom says...

You'd have to ask JK-R.
You'd have to ask JK-R. Neville Longbottom
  • Score: 0

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