Shameless in Swanley: PubSpy's review of bar fights and dirty talk at the Lullingstone Castle pub

UPDATE: Worst pub in Britain? Sex and violence horror for PubSpy at Lullingstone Castle, Swanley - redhead responds

PubSpy reviews Lullingstone Castle, Swanley

PubSpy reviews Lullingstone Castle, Swanley

PubSpy reviews Lullingstone Castle, Swanley

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Shameless Swanley. Ever seen a mindless thug push a bespectacled, grey-haired, 25-stone man to the floor before kicking him ferociously in the head until he was senseless? Try an early evening in the Lullingstone Castle.

Perhaps such barbaric acts are normal for 6.45 on a Tuesday evening in this particular Swanley boozer.

Certainly no-one in the pub seemed concerned, even at the height of the attack, the pool balls were still being potted, mindless conversations continued and the kids didn’t even look up from their homework.

Maybe it’s just me, but the idea that so many children were in the bar to witness such gratuitous violence at first hand left me feeling distinctly uneasy.

But no-one else seemed to bat an eyelid. The Chelsea shirt-clad thug got another pint in, pulled up his Chelsea tracksuit bottoms, had a fag break and continued to joke along with his pals. In fairness, these pals did finally step in during the worst part of the attack to protect the victim from worse punishment.

Remembering the hostility I encountered almost a year ago during my previous visit to this appalling hellhole of an establishment I found it difficult remembering why I’d chosen to give it a second chance.

The ale on offer certainly hasn’t improved, although signs stating “Cheers George, 1p off a pint of beer” are clearly visible.

The other thing clearly visible are the CCTV cameras adorning the bar. Mind you, given what I’d just witnessed, perhaps I shouldn’t have been surprised there are seven cameras on bar alone – yes, go in and count them if you dare, seven.

So, had anything improved since my last visit? The atmosphere may be more jovial, following the assault anyway, but you’re still going to attract the vacant gazes of the resident Neanderthals.

If I’m not much mistaken, the toilets have had a makeover – I’d have hated to write a whole article without finding something positive to say.

As the ancient songs from the vintage TV blared out, covering most of the obscenities and violence, I couldn’t help but overhear one conversation behind me.

He (the instantly likeable chap) said: “Well, should I come round yours or not? If I’m on for some then I’ll come, if not I’ll stay and get pissed.”

She (the one with dyed red hair) said: “I’ve got to make tea and put the kids to bed. I was thinking of watching a DVD.”

He said: “Look, am I on or not, cos I can always stay and drink.”

She said: “You really don’t know me yet, do you?”

And off they went into the night with her two kids, though the same door which the man beaten senseless had finally managed to drag himself through some minutes earlier.

Ah, the Lullingstone Castle, Swanley – how lovely.

PS. Even if the barmaid’s poisonous explanation for the attack is true, it’s still no excuse for such a sickening attack.

Lullingstone Castle, High Street, Swanley.

Decor: ** (toilets better than the rest of the place)

Drink: ** (still no decent ale, but other basics are present)

Price: **** (not bad at all, £3.53 for a pint of San Miguel)

Atmosphere: (terrifying)

Staff: *** (kept smiling)

Click here to read what PubSpy made of Lullingstone Castle a year ago.

Update - Redhead responds

A fight, the offer of sex and a packet of Monster Munch.

I thought I’d seen it all at the Lullingstone Castle, and then my editor says: “Have you seen this complaint? I think we need to publish it.”

Well, whatever she might say, I can assure you I reported the conversation accurately. I can’t for certain say what happened later – I’ll leave that to your imagination.

Here’s what she said:

“Hi i am the red head woman mentioned in this report i am simply fumming because the conversation what happened between my friend and i was  not as it was written there was no conversation of him (my friend ) saying if i am in for a promise then i will come back to your place and if not i will stay here and get drunk (these comments were not even said ).

“There wasnt any kids doing home work they were just playing with friends.

“I think the lully is a friendly pub there just happened to be a disagreement on that day with a few people,i will keep this as my local. Bar staff are friendly and welcoming  i would appriciate a written appolagy”. (sic)

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10:35am Thu 27 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

It will be after the crack of noon before we get the typical response from the Swanley patrons of this 'outhouse.'

Wait fer it.
It will be after the crack of noon before we get the typical response from the Swanley patrons of this 'outhouse.' Wait fer it. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 24

10:48am Thu 27 Mar 14

the wall says...

-11 in 22 minutes go Gypo.Joe.
-11 in 22 minutes go Gypo.Joe. the wall
  • Score: -28

10:49am Thu 27 Mar 14

the wall says...

the wall wrote:
-11 in 22 minutes go Gypo.Joe.
12 minutes that should read.

6 out 4 people can't do maths.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: -11 in 22 minutes go Gypo.Joe.[/p][/quote]12 minutes that should read. 6 out 4 people can't do maths. the wall
  • Score: 41

11:01am Thu 27 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

It's my massive fan base 'Wall'. You know who it is same as I do. They just know how to delete cookies.

Nothing changes in their tiny minds.

Back to the Lully, an hour or so to go, well it is a bit of a walk from Hart Dyke Road.
It's my massive fan base 'Wall'. You know who it is same as I do. They just know how to delete cookies. Nothing changes in their tiny minds. Back to the Lully, an hour or so to go, well it is a bit of a walk from Hart Dyke Road. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 25

11:49am Thu 27 Mar 14

Fromswanleynotagypo says...

It would do the place a favour if weatherspoons took it over, at least you would have some law and order in there.

Or knocked it down for flats.
It would do the place a favour if weatherspoons took it over, at least you would have some law and order in there. Or knocked it down for flats. Fromswanleynotagypo
  • Score: 66

2:06pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Wiff180 says...

Have never been in it, but what a lovely sounding place. What a lovely sounding bunch of underclass
Have never been in it, but what a lovely sounding place. What a lovely sounding bunch of underclass Wiff180
  • Score: 60

2:54pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Simon bald says...

Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS
Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS Simon bald
  • Score: 57

3:19pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Fromswanleynotagypo says...

Simon bald wrote:
Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS
Chill out, having been in there i can tell you he's not far off. That place is a dump full of drugs and down and outs.
[quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS[/p][/quote]Chill out, having been in there i can tell you he's not far off. That place is a dump full of drugs and down and outs. Fromswanleynotagypo
  • Score: 44

3:49pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Local lady says...

I only ever went in the pub once and that was many years ago. The pretty flower arrangements outside disguise the true 'flavour' of the interior. We left without buying a drink as we felt threatened.
Locals are embarrassed by this place and want it closed down. No decent person drinks there. Horse trading takes place there and spills into the main road - surely this is ilegal as well as dangerous?
Tried to post this onto the Swanley Town Council FB page to get them to comment but they don't accept comments from council tax paying locals who care about the area,
I only ever went in the pub once and that was many years ago. The pretty flower arrangements outside disguise the true 'flavour' of the interior. We left without buying a drink as we felt threatened. Locals are embarrassed by this place and want it closed down. No decent person drinks there. Horse trading takes place there and spills into the main road - surely this is ilegal as well as dangerous? Tried to post this onto the Swanley Town Council FB page to get them to comment but they don't accept comments from council tax paying locals who care about the area, Local lady
  • Score: 56

6:42pm Thu 27 Mar 14

AsylumWhy says...

Sadly, this incident PubSpy reflects is a kind of throwback to the 90's, where demonstrations of such regular mentality in "some" pubs in places like Crayford, Erith and Slade Green became the "accepted norm".
I recall less problems of a similar nature in the 80's. Mind, there were more protection rackets still operating back then, and everyone knew everyone else - way before social media and 'Likes' and 'Shares'!
Sadly, this incident PubSpy reflects is a kind of throwback to the 90's, where demonstrations of such regular mentality in "some" pubs in places like Crayford, Erith and Slade Green became the "accepted norm". I recall less problems of a similar nature in the 80's. Mind, there were more protection rackets still operating back then, and everyone knew everyone else - way before social media and 'Likes' and 'Shares'! AsylumWhy
  • Score: 22

7:31pm Thu 27 Mar 14

cherished says...

Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!!
Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!! cherished
  • Score: 42

8:07pm Thu 27 Mar 14

SwanleyLocal says...

To say this is the worst pub he's been in must be a joke or he needs to get a bit further a field. I think the pub is much improved in the last 6 months. A fight in a pub whatever next I mean none of us have ever seen that before. An article by an anonymous man who was apparently scared to death but stayed to report on the fight and had enough time to listen to somebody else's conversation. Seems a little bit one sided to me.
To say this is the worst pub he's been in must be a joke or he needs to get a bit further a field. I think the pub is much improved in the last 6 months. A fight in a pub whatever next I mean none of us have ever seen that before. An article by an anonymous man who was apparently scared to death but stayed to report on the fight and had enough time to listen to somebody else's conversation. Seems a little bit one sided to me. SwanleyLocal
  • Score: -16

8:13pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Simon bald says...

Fromswanleynotagypo wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS
Chill out, having been in there i can tell you he's not far off. That place is a dump full of drugs and down and outs.
Hey listen I am not saying this never happens in the quaint old Lullingstone,I'm saying if the roving reporter is in said pub at the time some old fella is taking a beating where are his photos where is the real report from this incident.total bull from pubspy as always.
[quote][p][bold]Fromswanleynotagypo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS[/p][/quote]Chill out, having been in there i can tell you he's not far off. That place is a dump full of drugs and down and outs.[/p][/quote]Hey listen I am not saying this never happens in the quaint old Lullingstone,I'm saying if the roving reporter is in said pub at the time some old fella is taking a beating where are his photos where is the real report from this incident.total bull from pubspy as always. Simon bald
  • Score: 7

8:43pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Fromswanleynotagypo says...

Simon bald wrote:
Fromswanleynotagypo wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS
Chill out, having been in there i can tell you he's not far off. That place is a dump full of drugs and down and outs.
Hey listen I am not saying this never happens in the quaint old Lullingstone,I'm saying if the roving reporter is in said pub at the time some old fella is taking a beating where are his photos where is the real report from this incident.total bull from pubspy as always.
Sensationalism. welcome to today's journalism mate...
[quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fromswanleynotagypo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS[/p][/quote]Chill out, having been in there i can tell you he's not far off. That place is a dump full of drugs and down and outs.[/p][/quote]Hey listen I am not saying this never happens in the quaint old Lullingstone,I'm saying if the roving reporter is in said pub at the time some old fella is taking a beating where are his photos where is the real report from this incident.total bull from pubspy as always.[/p][/quote]Sensationalism. welcome to today's journalism mate... Fromswanleynotagypo
  • Score: 1

8:44pm Thu 27 Mar 14

reasonable75 says...

PS. Even if the barmaid’s poisonous explanation for the attack is true, it’s still no excuse for such a sickening attack.

So what was the explanation?
PS. Even if the barmaid’s poisonous explanation for the attack is true, it’s still no excuse for such a sickening attack. So what was the explanation? reasonable75
  • Score: 36

9:13pm Thu 27 Mar 14

SwanleyLocal says...

cherished wrote:
Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!!
I doubt that the pub doesn't open until 11am from what I remember. Some people will tell any amount of lies to support there view
[quote][p][bold]cherished[/bold] wrote: Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!![/p][/quote]I doubt that the pub doesn't open until 11am from what I remember. Some people will tell any amount of lies to support there view SwanleyLocal
  • Score: -9

9:15pm Thu 27 Mar 14

SwanleyLocal says...

cherished wrote:
Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!!
I doubt that the pub doesn't open until 11am from what I remember. Some people will tell any amount of lies to support there view
[quote][p][bold]cherished[/bold] wrote: Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!![/p][/quote]I doubt that the pub doesn't open until 11am from what I remember. Some people will tell any amount of lies to support there view SwanleyLocal
  • Score: 2

9:18pm Thu 27 Mar 14

cherished says...

SwanleyLocal wrote:
cherished wrote:
Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!!
I doubt that the pub doesn't open until 11am from what I remember. Some people will tell any amount of lies to support there view
Not a lie at all but was definately the morning, I was pushing my grandson in his pushchair past the garden bit with the benches! Maybe it was you in the thong lol
[quote][p][bold]SwanleyLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cherished[/bold] wrote: Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!![/p][/quote]I doubt that the pub doesn't open until 11am from what I remember. Some people will tell any amount of lies to support there view[/p][/quote]Not a lie at all but was definately the morning, I was pushing my grandson in his pushchair past the garden bit with the benches! Maybe it was you in the thong lol cherished
  • Score: 39

9:56pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

cherished wrote:
SwanleyLocal wrote:
cherished wrote:
Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!!
I doubt that the pub doesn't open until 11am from what I remember. Some people will tell any amount of lies to support there view
Not a lie at all but was definately the morning, I was pushing my grandson in his pushchair past the garden bit with the benches! Maybe it was you in the thong lol
No way !

SwanleyLocal wears a mankini. summer and winter.

'ardcore innit.
[quote][p][bold]cherished[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SwanleyLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cherished[/bold] wrote: Makes me embarrassed to live in Swanley, seriously thinking of selling up and going somewhere nice!! I walked past the pub two Saturday's ago at 10.30 am and some fat slob was sitting in the outdoor area with a pint, stood up and shouted at a woman walking past and he was actually wearing a thong with a fat ar** on display. Made me feel sick!![/p][/quote]I doubt that the pub doesn't open until 11am from what I remember. Some people will tell any amount of lies to support there view[/p][/quote]Not a lie at all but was definately the morning, I was pushing my grandson in his pushchair past the garden bit with the benches! Maybe it was you in the thong lol[/p][/quote]No way ! SwanleyLocal wears a mankini. summer and winter. 'ardcore innit. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 41

10:49pm Thu 27 Mar 14

hjf2802 says...

I am quite ashamed of a few of the current residents of Swanley right now to be honest! I grew up in Swanley so I know about the reputation of the Lully! I also know of the reputation as I currently work there! I have worked in some very bad pubs in my time...and this one is far from the worst! The local clients are working men that enjoy a drink...much like any other pub in the area...and yes I do know a lot about other pubs in the area! It can be very challenging at times as there are a few "bad apples" in the area...but that is much like most areas! And I would hope to God that the proud and proper members of Swanley are not at all stereotyping these people as "underclass" or anything else for that matter! I know of the reputation and the reality of it is very different! It was just sheer bad luck that the clearly cutting edge reporter saw this event as it was an isolated incident and clearly has made him a very good headline! Maybe he should know better than to listen in to other peoples private conversations! Maybe he should of phoned the police if the incident was that violent! Seems very dramatised to me to make good reading!

Call me mad....but I enjoy my job and the local Neanderthals have made me feel very welcome! So never judge a book by it's cover....and don't judge a pub if you don't frequent it!!!
I am quite ashamed of a few of the current residents of Swanley right now to be honest! I grew up in Swanley so I know about the reputation of the Lully! I also know of the reputation as I currently work there! I have worked in some very bad pubs in my time...and this one is far from the worst! The local clients are working men that enjoy a drink...much like any other pub in the area...and yes I do know a lot about other pubs in the area! It can be very challenging at times as there are a few "bad apples" in the area...but that is much like most areas! And I would hope to God that the proud and proper members of Swanley are not at all stereotyping these people as "underclass" or anything else for that matter! I know of the reputation and the reality of it is very different! It was just sheer bad luck that the clearly cutting edge reporter saw this event as it was an isolated incident and clearly has made him a very good headline! Maybe he should know better than to listen in to other peoples private conversations! Maybe he should of phoned the police if the incident was that violent! Seems very dramatised to me to make good reading! Call me mad....but I enjoy my job and the local Neanderthals have made me feel very welcome! So never judge a book by it's cover....and don't judge a pub if you don't frequent it!!! hjf2802
  • Score: 10

10:53pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Local lady says...

What about the pony sales and all the carts in the car park that spill out into the main road? That is not only very dodgy but extremely dangerous. Not exactly good PR for the town as people drive in from the M25 is it? Anyone waiting for a bus next to the pub has to put up with loud mouthed yobs outside with pints in their hands.
How does the landlord get away with this? Does the head office not check out this tacky business?
What about the pony sales and all the carts in the car park that spill out into the main road? That is not only very dodgy but extremely dangerous. Not exactly good PR for the town as people drive in from the M25 is it? Anyone waiting for a bus next to the pub has to put up with loud mouthed yobs outside with pints in their hands. How does the landlord get away with this? Does the head office not check out this tacky business? Local lady
  • Score: 31

11:04pm Thu 27 Mar 14

hjf2802 says...

I'm sorry are you being discriminative? I was there that day and that was by no means anticipated at all! The police and the area manager and swanley council were all made aware if the situation and had cars sitting down the back roads incase of an emergency. The manager was in control of the premises but it is not there to police the outside streets! That is down to the police who chose to take a back seat as they always do! So you tell me...when you are confronted with that amount of big burly men who are very likely to spend a lot of money just for one day out of the next 6 months to a year...are you going to tell them no!? I very much doubt it! It is a very rare occurrence and a majority of them are very well behaved. You don't want these people in your pubs..or your town although they have a camp down the road and have as much right as anybody else no matter what or how you feel about their morals or way of life! That's very judgmental!
I'm sorry are you being discriminative? I was there that day and that was by no means anticipated at all! The police and the area manager and swanley council were all made aware if the situation and had cars sitting down the back roads incase of an emergency. The manager was in control of the premises but it is not there to police the outside streets! That is down to the police who chose to take a back seat as they always do! So you tell me...when you are confronted with that amount of big burly men who are very likely to spend a lot of money just for one day out of the next 6 months to a year...are you going to tell them no!? I very much doubt it! It is a very rare occurrence and a majority of them are very well behaved. You don't want these people in your pubs..or your town although they have a camp down the road and have as much right as anybody else no matter what or how you feel about their morals or way of life! That's very judgmental! hjf2802
  • Score: -12

11:16pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Aryldi says...

I agree with the comments above re: why did PS not call the Police, given the incident was so violent? Could he (she) not have slipped out to make a discreet phonecall to save the bloke any further beating?
I agree with the comments above re: why did PS not call the Police, given the incident was so violent? Could he (she) not have slipped out to make a discreet phonecall to save the bloke any further beating? Aryldi
  • Score: 14

11:28pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Mrbreaks says...

Ahh the Lully things never change... As the old saying goes " The Lully enter through the fount door, leave through the back window" it's always been a s*it hole.. Lol
Ahh the Lully things never change... As the old saying goes " The Lully enter through the fount door, leave through the back window" it's always been a s*it hole.. Lol Mrbreaks
  • Score: 28

11:32pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Mrbreaks says...

***front door****
***front door**** Mrbreaks
  • Score: 9

11:41pm Thu 27 Mar 14

ISaidThis says...

"Worst Pub In Britain?" Utter rubbish.

There's a place on Green Lanes in North London ...
"Worst Pub In Britain?" Utter rubbish. There's a place on Green Lanes in North London ... ISaidThis
  • Score: 4

11:47pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Teaspoon says...

Do the honourable thing PubSpy and get that incident reported to the police. SEVEN cameras? Get this thug banged up. Lets hope its not you that gets a beating next time PubSpy (or the lady you take with you) and nobody reports it!!!
Do the honourable thing PubSpy and get that incident reported to the police. SEVEN cameras? Get this thug banged up. Lets hope its not you that gets a beating next time PubSpy (or the lady you take with you) and nobody reports it!!! Teaspoon
  • Score: 22

12:11am Fri 28 Mar 14

kellyse9 says...

what did the barmaid say??
what did the barmaid say?? kellyse9
  • Score: 15

12:32am Fri 28 Mar 14

ron.1952 says...

I have to admit to my utter shame I have been in this very public house. Only once mind, and once was enough thank you very much. I have been in one worse though, a certain establishment in Beckenham. My lips are sealed so please don't ask me to name it.


Ronny
I have to admit to my utter shame I have been in this very public house. Only once mind, and once was enough thank you very much. I have been in one worse though, a certain establishment in Beckenham. My lips are sealed so please don't ask me to name it. Ronny ron.1952
  • Score: -32

8:59am Fri 28 Mar 14

cookster says...

Who remembers the Robin Hood next to St Mary Cray station?

Now that was a pub!
Who remembers the Robin Hood next to St Mary Cray station? Now that was a pub! cookster
  • Score: 13

9:50am Fri 28 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

cookster wrote:
Who remembers the Robin Hood next to St Mary Cray station?

Now that was a pub!
Oh I remember it well. I can think of one better cookster, hows about The Star on the corner of Star Lane, it had sawdust on the floor. Or the White Hart in Orpington High St, always good for a tear up.

Ronny boi behave now, you only went in that pub to see Spiderman and that gobby geezer who got in there giving it the large.

Oh my sides.
[quote][p][bold]cookster[/bold] wrote: Who remembers the Robin Hood next to St Mary Cray station? Now that was a pub![/p][/quote]Oh I remember it well. I can think of one better cookster, hows about The Star on the corner of Star Lane, it had sawdust on the floor. Or the White Hart in Orpington High St, always good for a tear up. Ronny boi behave now, you only went in that pub to see Spiderman and that gobby geezer who got in there giving it the large. Oh my sides. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 35

11:01am Fri 28 Mar 14

ms day says...

ALL SWANLEY MONGRELS
ALL SWANLEY MONGRELS ms day
  • Score: 8

12:16am Sat 29 Mar 14

Local lady says...

hjf2802 wrote:
I'm sorry are you being discriminative? I was there that day and that was by no means anticipated at all! The police and the area manager and swanley council were all made aware if the situation and had cars sitting down the back roads incase of an emergency. The manager was in control of the premises but it is not there to police the outside streets! That is down to the police who chose to take a back seat as they always do! So you tell me...when you are confronted with that amount of big burly men who are very likely to spend a lot of money just for one day out of the next 6 months to a year...are you going to tell them no!? I very much doubt it! It is a very rare occurrence and a majority of them are very well behaved. You don't want these people in your pubs..or your town although they have a camp down the road and have as much right as anybody else no matter what or how you feel about their morals or way of life! That's very judgmental!
If, as you say, the incident was not anticipated how come the police, your area manager and the council were parked up in the back streets? I'd say that meant you and your boss were aware - I assume you do have permission to speak about your employer here?
Your manager may not be able to control the streets outside the pub's boundery but he/she could control the car park and that was full with horse/carts and people. Where were your customers to park and would anyone wishing to walk past the premises have been safe? I doubt not.
I'm not at all judgemental. The problem would be the same whether it was travellers, policemen or nuns causing such chaos.You are the one judging us. We, the locals of Swanley just want a decent pub - and yes we do work as well but have better manners.
[quote][p][bold]hjf2802[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry are you being discriminative? I was there that day and that was by no means anticipated at all! The police and the area manager and swanley council were all made aware if the situation and had cars sitting down the back roads incase of an emergency. The manager was in control of the premises but it is not there to police the outside streets! That is down to the police who chose to take a back seat as they always do! So you tell me...when you are confronted with that amount of big burly men who are very likely to spend a lot of money just for one day out of the next 6 months to a year...are you going to tell them no!? I very much doubt it! It is a very rare occurrence and a majority of them are very well behaved. You don't want these people in your pubs..or your town although they have a camp down the road and have as much right as anybody else no matter what or how you feel about their morals or way of life! That's very judgmental![/p][/quote]If, as you say, the incident was not anticipated how come the police, your area manager and the council were parked up in the back streets? I'd say that meant you and your boss were aware - I assume you do have permission to speak about your employer here? Your manager may not be able to control the streets outside the pub's boundery but he/she could control the car park and that was full with horse/carts and people. Where were your customers to park and would anyone wishing to walk past the premises have been safe? I doubt not. I'm not at all judgemental. The problem would be the same whether it was travellers, policemen or nuns causing such chaos.You are the one judging us. We, the locals of Swanley just want a decent pub - and yes we do work as well but have better manners. Local lady
  • Score: 24

7:46pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Harold_Monk says...

Jeremy Kyle's southern Holding Pen
Jeremy Kyle's southern Holding Pen Harold_Monk
  • Score: 23

9:08pm Wed 2 Apr 14

swanleycase says...

i do frequent lully when i can sit outside. only because im from from east london, i can anticipate the atmosphere. have been threatened as a woman . landlord will not even improve it, because (as she told me) customers will mess it up. when there, i mostly stop children running to roads areas .!
i do frequent lully when i can sit outside. only because im from from east london, i can anticipate the atmosphere. have been threatened as a woman . landlord will not even improve it, because (as she told me) customers will mess it up. when there, i mostly stop children running to roads areas .! swanleycase
  • Score: 5

5:26pm Fri 4 Apr 14

goldenbroomboy says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
cookster wrote:
Who remembers the Robin Hood next to St Mary Cray station?

Now that was a pub!
Oh I remember it well. I can think of one better cookster, hows about The Star on the corner of Star Lane, it had sawdust on the floor. Or the White Hart in Orpington High St, always good for a tear up.

Ronny boi behave now, you only went in that pub to see Spiderman and that gobby geezer who got in there giving it the large.

Oh my sides.
Oh boy I remember the Robin Hood. If you had front teeth when you went in the locals made sure that you had lost them by the time you left.

The White Hart was okay for a lunchtime drink in the mid & late seventies because in those days Orpington High Street had office workers rather than pound shop stockers.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookster[/bold] wrote: Who remembers the Robin Hood next to St Mary Cray station? Now that was a pub![/p][/quote]Oh I remember it well. I can think of one better cookster, hows about The Star on the corner of Star Lane, it had sawdust on the floor. Or the White Hart in Orpington High St, always good for a tear up. Ronny boi behave now, you only went in that pub to see Spiderman and that gobby geezer who got in there giving it the large. Oh my sides.[/p][/quote]Oh boy I remember the Robin Hood. If you had front teeth when you went in the locals made sure that you had lost them by the time you left. The White Hart was okay for a lunchtime drink in the mid & late seventies because in those days Orpington High Street had office workers rather than pound shop stockers. goldenbroomboy
  • Score: 4

8:54pm Fri 4 Apr 14

chunkybuster says...

sex and violence? you should come round my house!
sex and violence? you should come round my house! chunkybuster
  • Score: 4

10:33am Mon 7 Apr 14

ความจริง says...

goldenbroomboy wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
cookster wrote: Who remembers the Robin Hood next to St Mary Cray station? Now that was a pub!
Oh I remember it well. I can think of one better cookster, hows about The Star on the corner of Star Lane, it had sawdust on the floor. Or the White Hart in Orpington High St, always good for a tear up. Ronny boi behave now, you only went in that pub to see Spiderman and that gobby geezer who got in there giving it the large. Oh my sides.
Oh boy I remember the Robin Hood. If you had front teeth when you went in the locals made sure that you had lost them by the time you left. The White Hart was okay for a lunchtime drink in the mid & late seventies because in those days Orpington High Street had office workers rather than pound shop stockers.
I used to drink in The White Hart, not a bad little pub...............
[quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookster[/bold] wrote: Who remembers the Robin Hood next to St Mary Cray station? Now that was a pub![/p][/quote]Oh I remember it well. I can think of one better cookster, hows about The Star on the corner of Star Lane, it had sawdust on the floor. Or the White Hart in Orpington High St, always good for a tear up. Ronny boi behave now, you only went in that pub to see Spiderman and that gobby geezer who got in there giving it the large. Oh my sides.[/p][/quote]Oh boy I remember the Robin Hood. If you had front teeth when you went in the locals made sure that you had lost them by the time you left. The White Hart was okay for a lunchtime drink in the mid & late seventies because in those days Orpington High Street had office workers rather than pound shop stockers.[/p][/quote]I used to drink in The White Hart, not a bad little pub............... ความจริง
  • Score: 2

12:49pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Techvedic says...

It seems people acquainted with bouncers can only enjoy here. Come at your own risk. (Editor, Techvedic)
It seems people acquainted with bouncers can only enjoy here. Come at your own risk. (Editor, Techvedic) Techvedic
  • Score: -1

5:26pm Mon 7 Apr 14

molsey says...

Simon bald wrote:
Fromswanleynotagypo wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS
Chill out, having been in there i can tell you he's not far off. That place is a dump full of drugs and down and outs.
Hey listen I am not saying this never happens in the quaint old Lullingstone,I'm saying if the roving reporter is in said pub at the time some old fella is taking a beating where are his photos where is the real report from this incident.total bull from pubspy as always.
He was having enough trouble keeping the cheeks of his a**e together.
[quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fromswanleynotagypo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: Let me get this straight, a journalist has witnessed a man being beaten unconscious but carried on writing a report on the pub rather than calling the police. I have seen no report of such a barbaric beating on the news shopper and considering you report a cat stuck in a tree to have an eye witness reporter on the scene of such a heinous crime would be like gold dust to you.i suggest this to be a web of lies or at very least bollards.this pub is a cesspit but not for one minute I believe old PS was present for the kick in. PS more like BS[/p][/quote]Chill out, having been in there i can tell you he's not far off. That place is a dump full of drugs and down and outs.[/p][/quote]Hey listen I am not saying this never happens in the quaint old Lullingstone,I'm saying if the roving reporter is in said pub at the time some old fella is taking a beating where are his photos where is the real report from this incident.total bull from pubspy as always.[/p][/quote]He was having enough trouble keeping the cheeks of his a**e together. molsey
  • Score: 5

1:54pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Crayman says...

Would it be silly to wonder why someone with English language skills of a child wonders where her life went to wrong..........

“Hi i am the red head woman mentioned in this report i am simply fumming because the conversation what happened between my friend and i was not as it was written there was no conversation of him (my friend ) saying if i am in for a promise then i will come back to your place and if not i will stay here and get drunk (these comments were not even said ).

“There wasnt any kids doing home work they were just playing with friends.

“I think the lully is a friendly pub there just happened to be a disagreement on that day with a few people,i will keep this as my local. Bar staff are friendly and welcoming i would appriciate a written appolagy”. (sic)
Would it be silly to wonder why someone with English language skills of a child wonders where her life went to wrong.......... “Hi i am the red head woman mentioned in this report i am simply fumming because the conversation what happened between my friend and i was not as it was written there was no conversation of him (my friend ) saying if i am in for a promise then i will come back to your place and if not i will stay here and get drunk (these comments were not even said ). “There wasnt any kids doing home work they were just playing with friends. “I think the lully is a friendly pub there just happened to be a disagreement on that day with a few people,i will keep this as my local. Bar staff are friendly and welcoming i would appriciate a written appolagy”. (sic) Crayman
  • Score: 14

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