Twickenham turn still cause for concern

Turning sour? Only if absolutely necessary

Turning sour? Only if absolutely necessary

First published in News by , Reporter

The people of Eel Pie Island remain fearful a right-turn ban for a Twickenham road could still be introduced, despite reassurance from Richmond Council.

The council said it would only implement the restrictions in Water Lane, from King Street, during peak hours if “absolutely required” by Transport for London (TfL).

TfL may decide a peak-time restriction at the junction for King Street, Water Lane and Church Street would be needed to maintain the rush hour traffic flows.

But Colin Heath, chairman of Eel Pie Island Residents’ Association, was concerned it was only a matter of time before the ban is brought in.

He said: “It would be a huge inconvenience as a large amount of delivery traffic that comes to the island uses that road.

“If they couldn’t turn right, it would mean they would have to do a round-robin of the town.

“The council say they won’t introduce the ban unless TfL insists, so I expect they will go to them and ask them to insist on it.”

A council spokesman reiterated it will only come into effect if it was “absolutely necessary”.

Councillor Chris Harrison, cabinet member for transport, has previously said if restrictions were imposed, residents affected would have alternative access arrangements and that there are no plans to permanently close Water Lane.

Architect Henry Harrison, who owns two buildings on the island and lives at Phoenix Wharf, said he has no trust in the council to stick to their word.

He said: “I would believe them if they had gone about their consultation right - no one on the island was balloted and we managed to squeeze in our objections two days it closed.

“There are a number of thriving businesses on the island and this little colony is very important to the borough.

“These businesses want to be here but if it is made difficult for them to operate, they could start to look elsewhere.”

TfL did not respond to this newspaper’s request for comment at the time if going to press.

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9:11pm Sat 1 Mar 14

Julie Hill says...

Who on earth signed off these "improvements" to Twickenham Town Centre?

The other day it took 20 minutes to drive from Waldegrave Road to Cross Deep. Traffic crawls from the traffic lights along Radnor Gardens every morning and this is going to be even worse when the bus stops are relocated in this area.

Meanwhile, Cousins fills the pavement with fruit and veg, forcing pedestrians to walk in the road. Surely if anywhere needed to be widened it is this stretch, not where the pavement has been ridiculously widened further up Heath Road?

The only improvement so far is that the Council and TFL have acted on our concerns and re-set the traffic lights to stop the red light runners coming from King Street. Now at least those of us turning right into Cross Deep have a fighting chance of doing so just about legally and without the risk of mowing down pedestrians.
Who on earth signed off these "improvements" to Twickenham Town Centre? The other day it took 20 minutes to drive from Waldegrave Road to Cross Deep. Traffic crawls from the traffic lights along Radnor Gardens every morning and this is going to be even worse when the bus stops are relocated in this area. Meanwhile, Cousins fills the pavement with fruit and veg, forcing pedestrians to walk in the road. Surely if anywhere needed to be widened it is this stretch, not where the pavement has been ridiculously widened further up Heath Road? The only improvement so far is that the Council and TFL have acted on our concerns and re-set the traffic lights to stop the red light runners coming from King Street. Now at least those of us turning right into Cross Deep have a fighting chance of doing so just about legally and without the risk of mowing down pedestrians. Julie Hill
  • Score: 3

12:41pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Twotonted says...

This whole scheme is an expensive shambles. Why is taxpayers money being wasted on a scheme that results in long term problems for many people and no clear benefits - ooops sorry, I forgot that we will get nice York stone paving!

Moving the bus stops will create chaos, no doubt this scheme was designed by the same team that caused the bus stop problems at Richmond station. Anyone now travelling to Hampton Hill will find that one bus goes from Heath road and the other from Cross Deep - across a major road. Same for Teddington, 2 buses from one stop and the third from the other. Also there will be a wide pavement in King Street, but a narrow pavement by the bus stops in Cross Deep and York Road. Chaos! Then there will be the lost drivers trying to find how they get to the Riverside with no right turn from King Street - and no doubt a cash cow camera to charge them when they get it wrong.
Additionally what will be the impact of buses stopping at the new bus stops which are situated in narrow stretches of road - traffic chaos maybe!!

This whole sceme needs a rethink before more money has to be spent to correct it later.
This whole scheme is an expensive shambles. Why is taxpayers money being wasted on a scheme that results in long term problems for many people and no clear benefits - ooops sorry, I forgot that we will get nice York stone paving! Moving the bus stops will create chaos, no doubt this scheme was designed by the same team that caused the bus stop problems at Richmond station. Anyone now travelling to Hampton Hill will find that one bus goes from Heath road and the other from Cross Deep - across a major road. Same for Teddington, 2 buses from one stop and the third from the other. Also there will be a wide pavement in King Street, but a narrow pavement by the bus stops in Cross Deep and York Road. Chaos! Then there will be the lost drivers trying to find how they get to the Riverside with no right turn from King Street - and no doubt a cash cow camera to charge them when they get it wrong. Additionally what will be the impact of buses stopping at the new bus stops which are situated in narrow stretches of road - traffic chaos maybe!! This whole sceme needs a rethink before more money has to be spent to correct it later. Twotonted
  • Score: 0

2:24pm Mon 3 Mar 14

jeremyhm says...

How very confident twotoned's predictions are. Perhaps you can tell us the winner of this year's Grand National as well? Of course there is disruption and nuisance while the work is being done, but I predict that in a few months' time everyone will forget why all the fuss was made.
How very confident twotoned's predictions are. Perhaps you can tell us the winner of this year's Grand National as well? Of course there is disruption and nuisance while the work is being done, but I predict that in a few months' time everyone will forget why all the fuss was made. jeremyhm
  • Score: -4

6:40pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Julie Hill says...

A rather large, ugly blue sign has appeared at the top of charming Church Street, Twickenham stating that it is only access for bicycles and unloading.

Can the Council please tell unsuspecting motorists when this is going to become "law" and whether cyclists will be asked to dismount and wheel their bikes along Church Street or whether they will still allowed to zip up and down this one way road?
A rather large, ugly blue sign has appeared at the top of charming Church Street, Twickenham stating that it is only access for bicycles and unloading. Can the Council please tell unsuspecting motorists when this is going to become "law" and whether cyclists will be asked to dismount and wheel their bikes along Church Street or whether they will still allowed to zip up and down this one way road? Julie Hill
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Scott Naylor says...

Likelihood is this has occurred as the no entry sign apart from access only has been largely ignored, and I have reported to the Deputy of Environment on the second occasion (I waved at him first time and pointed out he signage) Dep Cons Leader Cllr Geoffrey Samuel as well as photographing him in his car in his whie brand new white Citroen merrily sailing through without stopping into Church Road, Arragon Road and disappearing into the York House Members car park, clearly avoiding two sets of traffic lights/junctions witnessed too by the Chairman of Twickenham Town Business Association. I have also caught Council Officers cycling the wrong way up Church Street, resulting in a notice to all Council Employees reminding them of the No Entry signs at the Church Square end and of the meaning of the law!

He huge irony too is to see when the CCTV kicks in to the inevitable ban on the No Right Turn if Cllr Samuel will continue this illegal behaviour wheher he is still an elected Councillor or not.
Likelihood is this has occurred as the no entry sign apart from access only has been largely ignored, and I have reported to the Deputy of Environment on the second occasion (I waved at him first time and pointed out he signage) Dep Cons Leader Cllr Geoffrey Samuel as well as photographing him in his car in his whie brand new white Citroen merrily sailing through without stopping into Church Road, Arragon Road and disappearing into the York House Members car park, clearly avoiding two sets of traffic lights/junctions witnessed too by the Chairman of Twickenham Town Business Association. I have also caught Council Officers cycling the wrong way up Church Street, resulting in a notice to all Council Employees reminding them of the No Entry signs at the Church Square end and of the meaning of the law! He huge irony too is to see when the CCTV kicks in to the inevitable ban on the No Right Turn if Cllr Samuel will continue this illegal behaviour wheher he is still an elected Councillor or not. Scott Naylor
  • Score: -1

11:23pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Twickenham Bob says...

The Council has recently carried out a scheme in Whitton High Street and it does not bode well for Twickenham.

The bus stops now jut out - so when a bus stops, the whole road is blocked. Resulting in gridlock.

Twickenham can look forward to this too shortly.
The Council has recently carried out a scheme in Whitton High Street and it does not bode well for Twickenham. The bus stops now jut out - so when a bus stops, the whole road is blocked. Resulting in gridlock. Twickenham can look forward to this too shortly. Twickenham Bob
  • Score: 0

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