Kingston Council plans u-turn ban for Tolworth Broadway

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Kingston Council has published draft plans to ban u-turns in Tolworth Broadway after drivers were spotted crossing the Greenway.

The ban is intended to keep other vehicles and pedestrians safe, according to the draft traffic management order.

Anyone objecting to the plans should contact the council before Friday, February 21.

 

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8:08am Tue 4 Feb 14

helen59 says...

This has been an absolute waste of money. This money could have been put to far better use. Its not just the U turns that make this a dangerous place but I have also seen vans parking there while they make deliveries , using it as an overtaking lane- I also think pedestrians see this as a crossing point which for obvious reasons is just not safe for them.
This has been an absolute waste of money. This money could have been put to far better use. Its not just the U turns that make this a dangerous place but I have also seen vans parking there while they make deliveries , using it as an overtaking lane- I also think pedestrians see this as a crossing point which for obvious reasons is just not safe for them. helen59

9:36am Tue 4 Feb 14

dugongs2 says...

So how are they going to do that without putting up some sort of barrier !!! Are we going back to what is was before but with less road space and huge congestion.

Need to remove parking spaces from broadway and restore dual carriage way to reduce congestion on Ewell Road and A3. Create barrier island in middle and then couple of crossing points to allow pedestrians to safely cross the always busy road. Will still be worse than before for traffic but at least it will flow better and similar to New Malden Fountain roundabout where traffic lights for pedestrian cause delays but they clear after 5 minutes and are not always permanent aka current Tolworth Broadway.

Tolworth Broadway is not a Paris boulevard it is a busy road and the mad greenway scheme is a failure in every sense.
So how are they going to do that without putting up some sort of barrier !!! Are we going back to what is was before but with less road space and huge congestion. Need to remove parking spaces from broadway and restore dual carriage way to reduce congestion on Ewell Road and A3. Create barrier island in middle and then couple of crossing points to allow pedestrians to safely cross the always busy road. Will still be worse than before for traffic but at least it will flow better and similar to New Malden Fountain roundabout where traffic lights for pedestrian cause delays but they clear after 5 minutes and are not always permanent aka current Tolworth Broadway. Tolworth Broadway is not a Paris boulevard it is a busy road and the mad greenway scheme is a failure in every sense. dugongs2

10:06am Tue 4 Feb 14

Happy59 says...

Now they're going to consult us! So more money which the council can ill afford (just view the services they deem less worthy than an idiotic road scheme or theatre, children’s services, for example) being wasted to erect some sort of 'barrier' to stop motor vehicles using the Greenway. I'm sure a sign won't be sufficient. And all because they couldn't say no to Boris and his mad idea, if he was so keen on this idea why didn’t he do it in Kensington or Chelsea, because everyone knew it wouldn’t work but the citizens of Tolworth don’t matter to anyone, local council or the Mayor of London so that’s why we got the ‘prize’ Lucky us.
Now they're going to consult us! So more money which the council can ill afford (just view the services they deem less worthy than an idiotic road scheme or theatre, children’s services, for example) being wasted to erect some sort of 'barrier' to stop motor vehicles using the Greenway. I'm sure a sign won't be sufficient. And all because they couldn't say no to Boris and his mad idea, if he was so keen on this idea why didn’t he do it in Kensington or Chelsea, because everyone knew it wouldn’t work but the citizens of Tolworth don’t matter to anyone, local council or the Mayor of London so that’s why we got the ‘prize’ Lucky us. Happy59

10:30am Tue 4 Feb 14

IanGeorge says...

Happy59 wrote:
Now they're going to consult us! So more money which the council can ill afford (just view the services they deem less worthy than an idiotic road scheme or theatre, children’s services, for example) being wasted to erect some sort of 'barrier' to stop motor vehicles using the Greenway. I'm sure a sign won't be sufficient. And all because they couldn't say no to Boris and his mad idea, if he was so keen on this idea why didn’t he do it in Kensington or Chelsea, because everyone knew it wouldn’t work but the citizens of Tolworth don’t matter to anyone, local council or the Mayor of London so that’s why we got the ‘prize’ Lucky us.
The Greenway wasn't imposed on us by Boris. It was Kingston Council who put in a bid for the scheme through TfL. It was Kingston Council who came up with the ideas and plans.

TfL paid the majority of the costs, plus some from Kingston Council. TfL money was likely to be available for another scheme for Tolworth if Kingston came forward with a different scheme instead of the current Greenway one.
[quote][p][bold]Happy59[/bold] wrote: Now they're going to consult us! So more money which the council can ill afford (just view the services they deem less worthy than an idiotic road scheme or theatre, children’s services, for example) being wasted to erect some sort of 'barrier' to stop motor vehicles using the Greenway. I'm sure a sign won't be sufficient. And all because they couldn't say no to Boris and his mad idea, if he was so keen on this idea why didn’t he do it in Kensington or Chelsea, because everyone knew it wouldn’t work but the citizens of Tolworth don’t matter to anyone, local council or the Mayor of London so that’s why we got the ‘prize’ Lucky us.[/p][/quote]The Greenway wasn't imposed on us by Boris. It was Kingston Council who put in a bid for the scheme through TfL. It was Kingston Council who came up with the ideas and plans. TfL paid the majority of the costs, plus some from Kingston Council. TfL money was likely to be available for another scheme for Tolworth if Kingston came forward with a different scheme instead of the current Greenway one. IanGeorge

10:59am Tue 4 Feb 14

Happy59 says...

Well IanGeorge then more shame on the 'local' council and councillors for NOT listening to the community and providing us with what we wanted and not what they thought was best for us. Funny LibDems have been saying for ages that they had to agree to this scheme to get the funding. You just don't know who to believe. Not a Politian that's for sure..
Well IanGeorge then more shame on the 'local' council and councillors for NOT listening to the community and providing us with what we wanted and not what they thought was best for us. Funny LibDems have been saying for ages that they had to agree to this scheme to get the funding. You just don't know who to believe. Not a Politian that's for sure.. Happy59

11:20am Tue 4 Feb 14

IanGeorge says...

Happy59 wrote:
Well IanGeorge then more shame on the 'local' council and councillors for NOT listening to the community and providing us with what we wanted and not what they thought was best for us. Funny LibDems have been saying for ages that they had to agree to this scheme to get the funding. You just don't know who to believe. Not a Politian that's for sure..
After seeing your comment re politicians, I feel as if I have to own up to being a former councillor. However, when I was a councillor I voted against the current scheme because I knew it wasn't what the majority of local people wanted. I knew that because we carried out an in-depth consultation with over 5,000 printed surveys being delivered to local residents, along with an online survey. This was all delivered and paid for at no cost to the council.

The results showed that the vast majority of people who responded (we did door knocking as well) did not want what was being offered, The results of our survey were totally at odds with the 'official council' consultation results.

I like many other people thought that Tolworth was due some investment, but I and my colleagues never thought the chosen way was the best way of spending so much money.

The LibDems did/do think that the current scheme was the best way of spending the £millions of taxpayer's money, so it is odd that they are now trying to give the 'credit' to Boris.
[quote][p][bold]Happy59[/bold] wrote: Well IanGeorge then more shame on the 'local' council and councillors for NOT listening to the community and providing us with what we wanted and not what they thought was best for us. Funny LibDems have been saying for ages that they had to agree to this scheme to get the funding. You just don't know who to believe. Not a Politian that's for sure..[/p][/quote]After seeing your comment re politicians, I feel as if I have to own up to being a former councillor. However, when I was a councillor I voted against the current scheme because I knew it wasn't what the majority of local people wanted. I knew that because we carried out an in-depth consultation with over 5,000 printed surveys being delivered to local residents, along with an online survey. This was all delivered and paid for at no cost to the council. The results showed that the vast majority of people who responded (we did door knocking as well) did not want what was being offered, The results of our survey were totally at odds with the 'official council' consultation results. I like many other people thought that Tolworth was due some investment, but I and my colleagues never thought the chosen way was the best way of spending so much money. The LibDems did/do think that the current scheme was the best way of spending the £millions of taxpayer's money, so it is odd that they are now trying to give the 'credit' to Boris. IanGeorge

1:24pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Mind the gap says...

Just be done with it and turn the Broadway into a pedestrianised zone. The area is choking with pollution. Why do we keep pandering to the motorist.
Just be done with it and turn the Broadway into a pedestrianised zone. The area is choking with pollution. Why do we keep pandering to the motorist. Mind the gap

3:46pm Tue 4 Feb 14

pinky107 says...

just dig the whole pile of rubbish up and admit it was a stupid , badly designed idea in the first place , like us residents said at the beginning .
it has been one thing after another with this greenway crap .
just dig the whole pile of rubbish up and admit it was a stupid , badly designed idea in the first place , like us residents said at the beginning . it has been one thing after another with this greenway crap . pinky107

4:25pm Tue 4 Feb 14

FSD2013 says...

I am sure there will be no carriers put in place, just further CCTV monitoring cameras to fine people who become so flabberghasted with the traffic that they turn around to reduce the emissions they are putting out into the air whilst stationary. Anyone remember that advert about turning off your engine near schools because of pollution being bad for the kids? The greenway is now the route many children take to school - only vaguely ironic!

Twice in the last week there have been people parked/loading in the lanes that should be functioning at rush hour - where are the 'traffic wardens' then - when they could be making sure that the traffic flows?!
I am sure there will be no carriers put in place, just further CCTV monitoring cameras to fine people who become so flabberghasted with the traffic that they turn around to reduce the emissions they are putting out into the air whilst stationary. Anyone remember that advert about turning off your engine near schools because of pollution being bad for the kids? The greenway is now the route many children take to school - only vaguely ironic! Twice in the last week there have been people parked/loading in the lanes that should be functioning at rush hour - where are the 'traffic wardens' then - when they could be making sure that the traffic flows?! FSD2013

6:56pm Sun 9 Feb 14

pinky107 says...

any chance a councillor or the bloke who designed it could comment on here , or are they hiding as they have realised how rubbish and ugly it is ?
i have never seen such a badly designed and built mess as this , what a waste of money !!!!!!!!!!!!!
any chance a councillor or the bloke who designed it could comment on here , or are they hiding as they have realised how rubbish and ugly it is ? i have never seen such a badly designed and built mess as this , what a waste of money !!!!!!!!!!!!! pinky107

10:33am Sun 16 Feb 14

pinky107 says...

another accident on the greenway a young lady and her 8 year old child knocked over and are still in hospital .
great success this rubbish has been . we didn't want it , didn't need it . it has been a disaster from the start . badly designed , subway ramps shortened with steps at the end because it was so badly thought out . safe crossings moved and a useless dark green ramp that no driver from a different area would know is a crossing point , pathetic . short cuts made , budgets cut , aweful layout , planks of wood sticking up in the air , ugly absolute crap !!!! well done TFL you are a disgrace and so are those who went ahead with this idea against the wishes and concerns of those who actually live in tolworth .
another accident on the greenway a young lady and her 8 year old child knocked over and are still in hospital . great success this rubbish has been . we didn't want it , didn't need it . it has been a disaster from the start . badly designed , subway ramps shortened with steps at the end because it was so badly thought out . safe crossings moved and a useless dark green ramp that no driver from a different area would know is a crossing point , pathetic . short cuts made , budgets cut , aweful layout , planks of wood sticking up in the air , ugly absolute crap !!!! well done TFL you are a disgrace and so are those who went ahead with this idea against the wishes and concerns of those who actually live in tolworth . pinky107

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