Dementia sufferer reunited with lost car after News Shopper appeal

This Is Local London: Laura Bullions (left) with the Blue Corsa of grateful owner Marie Wand (right) in the spot where it was left. Laura Bullions (left) with the Blue Corsa of grateful owner Marie Wand (right) in the spot where it was left.

A LOST car has been reunited with its owner after an appeal was put out by the family in the News Shopper last week.

Marie Wand, 83, from Danson Road, Bexleyheath, who suffers from dementia, was without her beloved blue Vauxhall Corsa for a month after she went out on November 27 for a routine doctor's appointment at the Memorial Hospital in Shooters Hill.

The grandmother never turned up for the appointment and the next thing Marie's family knew she had returned home that evening without the car.

The only clues to her whereabouts were a Papa John's Pizza and petrol receipt from Hayes Lane in Bromley.

Amazingly on the day the newspaper came out and after the story went online the car was found by a reader.

Laura Bullions, 37, from Forestdale, near Croydon, noticed the car parked in Station Road, West Wickham, outside the Boots store.

Laura, who works with the elderly as a helper, said: "I noticed the car because it was parked in the space I normally use in the morning.

 

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Marie Wand has her car back in time for Christmas. 

"I normally leave my car there and get my breakfast in the morning. I thought something was awry when I didn't see it move for weeks.

"I thought it was maybe an elderly person's car who had had an accident and that's why it hadn't been picked up.

"When I read the story on the News Shopper website I was amazed and e-mailed the family right away. I took a picture and made sure it was the right number plate just to be 100 per cent sure.

"I am really pleased for this lady that she will have the car back for Christmas Day."

Marie's daughter Sacha Wand, 48, from Mottingham, said the family were “very pleased and relieved” the car has been found.

She added: "Mum is so pleased. She has felt totally lost without her car. It's her independence. Thank you to everyone who looked for it.

"She will be able to go to her Christmas Day meal now and have a great day."

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3:39pm Fri 20 Dec 13

pie_nash says...

On the 29th November I reported to the police an elderly lady wandering up and down Upton Road at about midnight in her pyjamas and dressing gown (it was sub-zero). When I approached her she told me that she was looking for an address and told me to go away. I kept an eye on her from my vehicle and followed her the entire length of Upton Road whilst talking to police control until officers arrived and looked after her. I wonder if its the same lady, I hope she is ok and being well looked after.
On the 29th November I reported to the police an elderly lady wandering up and down Upton Road at about midnight in her pyjamas and dressing gown (it was sub-zero). When I approached her she told me that she was looking for an address and told me to go away. I kept an eye on her from my vehicle and followed her the entire length of Upton Road whilst talking to police control until officers arrived and looked after her. I wonder if its the same lady, I hope she is ok and being well looked after. pie_nash

3:48pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Tinklebell says...

she seriously should not be driving she will lose her car again, or drive to another area or country. i think her family should start driving her around or get her a bus pass or a gps tag so if she gets lost at least they can track her
she seriously should not be driving she will lose her car again, or drive to another area or country. i think her family should start driving her around or get her a bus pass or a gps tag so if she gets lost at least they can track her Tinklebell

3:55pm Fri 20 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Most people drive around like they have dementia. Keep driving!!
Most people drive around like they have dementia. Keep driving!! white rabbit9

4:19pm Fri 20 Dec 13

ginger55 says...

I'm pleased that the car has been found BUT Sacha Wand is behaving in a totally irresponsible way not caring what happens in the future to her mother or other pedestrians and road users!!!
As others commented on the original story, her mother SHOULD NOT be driving with the degree of dementia she has. Why so many people gave the thumbs down for the comments is beyond me - they obviously have no sense of responsibility themselves or any concept of how Alzehimers/dementia affects the memory.

The 'lost car' incident is a warning to Marie Wands family... please take the keys away before there is a major accident and lives are lost.
I'm pleased that the car has been found BUT Sacha Wand is behaving in a totally irresponsible way not caring what happens in the future to her mother or other pedestrians and road users!!! As others commented on the original story, her mother SHOULD NOT be driving with the degree of dementia she has. Why so many people gave the thumbs down for the comments is beyond me - they obviously have no sense of responsibility themselves or any concept of how Alzehimers/dementia affects the memory. The 'lost car' incident is a warning to Marie Wands family... please take the keys away before there is a major accident and lives are lost. ginger55

4:28pm Fri 20 Dec 13

madras says...

Please now sell the car and put the proceeds toward taxi fares or use bus pass...
Please now sell the car and put the proceeds toward taxi fares or use bus pass... madras

5:30pm Fri 20 Dec 13

applause says...

Please tell me this is not true. And how brazen, posing in the car. Well, we all know the car, lady, and registration, so look out folks.
Please tell me this is not true. And how brazen, posing in the car. Well, we all know the car, lady, and registration, so look out folks. applause

8:10pm Fri 20 Dec 13

reasonable75 says...

As on the earlier article, any comment questioning if she should still be driving gets the thumbs down
As on the earlier article, any comment questioning if she should still be driving gets the thumbs down reasonable75

8:30pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Clairestortoise says...

I'm a Carer who sees many clients who suffer with dementia... I know the effects of this terrible illness... None of my clients who have been diagnosed with dementia drive! Their licenses were taken from them, the vehicle sold. Their families drive them to do their shopping etc... I'm surprised if this lady can get insurance as a dementia sufferer... Dvla should be made aware of this too. This lady has already lost the car, I dead to think what may happen next...
I'm a Carer who sees many clients who suffer with dementia... I know the effects of this terrible illness... None of my clients who have been diagnosed with dementia drive! Their licenses were taken from them, the vehicle sold. Their families drive them to do their shopping etc... I'm surprised if this lady can get insurance as a dementia sufferer... Dvla should be made aware of this too. This lady has already lost the car, I dead to think what may happen next... Clairestortoise

8:43pm Fri 20 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else. white rabbit9

9:20pm Fri 20 Dec 13

christofearn says...

Well done NS you have helped put a potential killer back on our roads. What is going on here, maybe this woman is not suffering from dementia and it is a normal New Shopper journalistic error that your facts are wrong. But if she is a dementia sufferer as you report then shame on you for bragging about finding the car she should not be driving. My only hope here is that this story has reached the police and or the licencing people and that they will stop this nonsense before serious damage is done!!!
Well done NS you have helped put a potential killer back on our roads. What is going on here, maybe this woman is not suffering from dementia and it is a normal New Shopper journalistic error that your facts are wrong. But if she is a dementia sufferer as you report then shame on you for bragging about finding the car she should not be driving. My only hope here is that this story has reached the police and or the licencing people and that they will stop this nonsense before serious damage is done!!! christofearn

11:08pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Clairestortoise says...

Let's hope and pray she don't drive that car on a motorway!
Let's hope and pray she don't drive that car on a motorway! Clairestortoise

7:40am Sat 21 Dec 13

right-writes says...

Which brings me back to my last comment regarding driving, which criticised the concept of removing a person's licence due to having changed the colour of some salts in a bottle.

Here we have someone, who by the standards of a fit person, who might have had a bit too much alcohol (according to the test equipment), is actually a serious risk.

Put it this way, I don't actually use alcohol, due to a medical condition, but I feel safer driving with my friend who might have had a bit over the limit, than I did driving with my 90 year old Dad. He managed to get lost a couple of times, he also suffered a little (but noticeable) TIA whilst driving...

Fortunately he has given up, but I find arbitrary rules about the human condition to be anathema.
Which brings me back to my last comment regarding driving, which criticised the concept of removing a person's licence due to having changed the colour of some salts in a bottle. Here we have someone, who by the standards of a fit person, who might have had a bit too much alcohol (according to the test equipment), is actually a serious risk. Put it this way, I don't actually use alcohol, due to a medical condition, but I feel safer driving with my friend who might have had a bit over the limit, than I did driving with my 90 year old Dad. He managed to get lost a couple of times, he also suffered a little (but noticeable) TIA whilst driving... Fortunately he has given up, but I find arbitrary rules about the human condition to be anathema. right-writes

8:12am Sat 21 Dec 13

christofearn says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
Blimey, are you sure about this comment. What an admission. I must say I admire your candidness however idiotic and irresponsible it make you out to be. Keep driving and don't worry, I'm sure you'll have a serious accident soon. It's inevitable!! Then you can post again telling us how badly you drive. By the way, do you know what dementia is??
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]Blimey, are you sure about this comment. What an admission. I must say I admire your candidness however idiotic and irresponsible it make you out to be. Keep driving and don't worry, I'm sure you'll have a serious accident soon. It's inevitable!! Then you can post again telling us how badly you drive. By the way, do you know what dementia is?? christofearn

8:28am Sat 21 Dec 13

Simon bald says...

how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns Simon bald

11:07am Sat 21 Dec 13

dee2009 says...

Sorry i can't understand WHY the n/s can sit back and put this story on there web site knowing this poor lady has dementia witch isn't going to get better only worst,come on n/s please do the kindest thing by reporting this to the DVLA.God to bid this never happen but next time not only the family looking for the car again but it could be the mother too but i do hope not,so n/s you no what you have to do reported this pool lady and keep her safe with her family.
Sorry i can't understand WHY the n/s can sit back and put this story on there web site knowing this poor lady has dementia witch isn't going to get better only worst,come on n/s please do the kindest thing by reporting this to the DVLA.God to bid this never happen but next time not only the family looking for the car again but it could be the mother too but i do hope not,so n/s you no what you have to do reported this pool lady and keep her safe with her family. dee2009

1:19pm Sat 21 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

christofearn wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
Blimey, are you sure about this comment. What an admission. I must say I admire your candidness however idiotic and irresponsible it make you out to be. Keep driving and don't worry, I'm sure you'll have a serious accident soon. It's inevitable!! Then you can post again telling us how badly you drive. By the way, do you know what dementia is??
You deal in absolutes, you might as well say, 'don't cross the road, you might get hit by a car'. Pathetic. No one is infallible! I make mistakes because I am a human being, what, you never made a mistake while driving?
[quote][p][bold]christofearn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]Blimey, are you sure about this comment. What an admission. I must say I admire your candidness however idiotic and irresponsible it make you out to be. Keep driving and don't worry, I'm sure you'll have a serious accident soon. It's inevitable!! Then you can post again telling us how badly you drive. By the way, do you know what dementia is??[/p][/quote]You deal in absolutes, you might as well say, 'don't cross the road, you might get hit by a car'. Pathetic. No one is infallible! I make mistakes because I am a human being, what, you never made a mistake while driving? white rabbit9

1:24pm Sat 21 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
[quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia. white rabbit9

2:09pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Gypo.Joe says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Well you are fer sure !
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Well you are fer sure ! Gypo.Joe

2:11pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Runneround says...

I would have thought that if she can't remember where she left the car then perhaps her daugher ought to surrender her license straight away as the poor lady is now fighting a lost cause. I'm sure the daughter will do the right thing by her mum. The very best of luck for the future Mrs Wand
I would have thought that if she can't remember where she left the car then perhaps her daugher ought to surrender her license straight away as the poor lady is now fighting a lost cause. I'm sure the daughter will do the right thing by her mum. The very best of luck for the future Mrs Wand Runneround

3:09pm Sat 21 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Well you are fer sure !
I already told you I must be "insane" to live in a world that is presumed "sane".
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Well you are fer sure ![/p][/quote]I already told you I must be "insane" to live in a world that is presumed "sane". white rabbit9

4:45pm Sat 21 Dec 13

marc8888 says...

Well I don't make any of the mistakes that White Rabbit makes, they are the kind of driver that make me mad with their inattention.... and they cause accidents because of it.
Well I don't make any of the mistakes that White Rabbit makes, they are the kind of driver that make me mad with their inattention.... and they cause accidents because of it. marc8888

5:06pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Harold_Monk says...

My dad had dementia - he sold the car and cherished his bus pass, and was a lot happier for it
My dad had dementia - he sold the car and cherished his bus pass, and was a lot happier for it Harold_Monk

5:28pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Gypo.Joe says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.



org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Well you are fer sure !
I already told you I must be "insane" to live in a world that is presumed "sane".
Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese?

Don't you know I'm loco?

Cypress Hill - Insane In The Membrane
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Well you are fer sure ![/p][/quote]I already told you I must be "insane" to live in a world that is presumed "sane".[/p][/quote]Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't you know I'm loco? Cypress Hill - Insane In The Membrane Gypo.Joe

5:56pm Sat 21 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.




org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Well you are fer sure !
I already told you I must be "insane" to live in a world that is presumed "sane".
Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese?

Don't you know I'm loco?

Cypress Hill - Insane In The Membrane
Like I said, you are totally sane. Liberal thinking. spot it a mile off.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Well you are fer sure ![/p][/quote]I already told you I must be "insane" to live in a world that is presumed "sane".[/p][/quote]Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't you know I'm loco? Cypress Hill - Insane In The Membrane[/p][/quote]Like I said, you are totally sane. Liberal thinking. spot it a mile off. white rabbit9

5:57pm Sat 21 Dec 13

oBLiVioN 70 says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
Would be good if you could let us know how to identify you..... I for one would like to keep out of your way.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]Would be good if you could let us know how to identify you..... I for one would like to keep out of your way. oBLiVioN 70

6:47pm Sat 21 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

oBLiVioN 70 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
Would be good if you could let us know how to identify you..... I for one would like to keep out of your way.
Trust me; you would wanna keep out of my way.
[quote][p][bold]oBLiVioN 70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]Would be good if you could let us know how to identify you..... I for one would like to keep out of your way.[/p][/quote]Trust me; you would wanna keep out of my way. white rabbit9

6:53pm Sat 21 Dec 13

janice1980 says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message

'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving. The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving.[62] The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.' janice1980

6:59pm Sat 21 Dec 13

janice1980 says...

As someone who has worked with those with dementia I am not discriminating but safety bust come first. People should be helped to keep their independence for as long as possible but this is downright dangerous and irresponsible for her to continue to drive. Imagine if she had knocked someone over or gotten lost and now been able to get home at all?

I'm sure after all this publicity someone has informed the DVLA and hopefully the licence will be removed for everyone's safety, including hers
As someone who has worked with those with dementia I am not discriminating but safety bust come first. People should be helped to keep their independence for as long as possible but this is downright dangerous and irresponsible for her to continue to drive. Imagine if she had knocked someone over or gotten lost and now been able to get home at all? I'm sure after all this publicity someone has informed the DVLA and hopefully the licence will be removed for everyone's safety, including hers janice1980

7:30pm Sat 21 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message

'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving. The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'
That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.
[quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving.[62] The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'[/p][/quote]That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license. white rabbit9

8:20pm Sat 21 Dec 13

janice1980 says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.



org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message

'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving. The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'
That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.
With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving.[62] The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'[/p][/quote]That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.[/p][/quote]With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her janice1980

9:19pm Sat 21 Dec 13

bexleyman says...

Whoops I forgot what the red colour meant again...
Whoops I forgot what the red colour meant again... bexleyman

9:23pm Sat 21 Dec 13

cherithporter says...

She should do another driving test.
She should do another driving test. cherithporter

10:27pm Sat 21 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.




org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message

'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving. The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'
That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.
With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her
Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone.
[quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving.[62] The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'[/p][/quote]That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.[/p][/quote]With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her[/p][/quote]Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone. white rabbit9

10:57pm Sat 21 Dec 13

oBLiVioN 70 says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people.

Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness",

http://en.wikipedia.





org/wiki/Dementia

I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message

'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving. The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'
That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.
With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her
Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone.
Totally get what you're saying and agree with you to some degree but there are times when you don't need a weatherman to tell you when it's **** it down.

Anyway these are just our opinions but from what I've seen it does look like she could benefit from her family running a few errands for her so she doesn't have to drive.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving.[62] The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'[/p][/quote]That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.[/p][/quote]With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her[/p][/quote]Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone.[/p][/quote]Totally get what you're saying and agree with you to some degree but there are times when you don't need a weatherman to tell you when it's **** it down. Anyway these are just our opinions but from what I've seen it does look like she could benefit from her family running a few errands for her so she doesn't have to drive. oBLiVioN 70

11:06pm Sat 21 Dec 13

fairkarma says...

I cannot believe that this woman has the gall to pose in her car like this. What on earth is she and her family thinking of! Obviously she can be excused I suppose because she doesn't know what she's doing but her family?? I WILL be reporting this to the DVLA, my close relative was killed by an elderly driver who apparently didn't have dementia so I feel very strongly about this.
I cannot believe that this woman has the gall to pose in her car like this. What on earth is she and her family thinking of! Obviously she can be excused I suppose because she doesn't know what she's doing but her family?? I WILL be reporting this to the DVLA, my close relative was killed by an elderly driver who apparently didn't have dementia so I feel very strongly about this. fairkarma

11:29pm Sat 21 Dec 13

oBLiVioN 70 says...

fairkarma wrote:
I cannot believe that this woman has the gall to pose in her car like this. What on earth is she and her family thinking of! Obviously she can be excused I suppose because she doesn't know what she's doing but her family?? I WILL be reporting this to the DVLA, my close relative was killed by an elderly driver who apparently didn't have dementia so I feel very strongly about this.
I've pulled my stepdad up so many times over the way he cuts corners and brakes late, he's almost 70 but he's done it all his life. I've been nearly taken out a few times by people like that when I was younger.

It's made me a better driver but the people that have mostly put me in that position have been young.

Sorry for your loss however.
[quote][p][bold]fairkarma[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe that this woman has the gall to pose in her car like this. What on earth is she and her family thinking of! Obviously she can be excused I suppose because she doesn't know what she's doing but her family?? I WILL be reporting this to the DVLA, my close relative was killed by an elderly driver who apparently didn't have dementia so I feel very strongly about this.[/p][/quote]I've pulled my stepdad up so many times over the way he cuts corners and brakes late, he's almost 70 but he's done it all his life. I've been nearly taken out a few times by people like that when I was younger. It's made me a better driver but the people that have mostly put me in that position have been young. Sorry for your loss however. oBLiVioN 70

6:25am Sun 22 Dec 13

janice1980 says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving. The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'
That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.
With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her
Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone.
At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving.[62] The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'[/p][/quote]That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.[/p][/quote]With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her[/p][/quote]Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone.[/p][/quote]At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable janice1980

8:58am Sun 22 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving. The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'
That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.
With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her
Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone.
At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable
At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable

Safety? SAFETY? You wanna wrap people up in cotton wool? I got an idea lets get rid of every car just incase, SAFETY FIRST! OH NO their was an iron that accidentally burnt someone. IDEA?.........Lets get rid of Irons! OH NO! wet floor!! someone tripped over!,..........IDEA
! Let's not wash the floors ever again. Everyday we face dangers, you can't control everything in this crazy world. Next thing you will be advocating getting rid of alcohol, one of the biggest killers of humans by far, but no lets pick on some poor old lady, HEALTH AND SAFETY!! HEALTH AND SAFETY!!

Leave her alone and let the DVLA and her family decide. This lady is registered with the DVLA so the DVLA own her and makes them decisions.
[quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving.[62] The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'[/p][/quote]That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.[/p][/quote]With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her[/p][/quote]Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone.[/p][/quote]At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable[/p][/quote]At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable Safety? SAFETY? You wanna wrap people up in cotton wool? I got an idea lets get rid of every car just incase, SAFETY FIRST! OH NO their was an iron that accidentally burnt someone. IDEA?.........Lets get rid of Irons! OH NO! wet floor!! someone tripped over!,..........IDEA ! Let's not wash the floors ever again. Everyday we face dangers, you can't control everything in this crazy world. Next thing you will be advocating getting rid of alcohol, one of the biggest killers of humans by far, but no lets pick on some poor old lady, HEALTH AND SAFETY!! HEALTH AND SAFETY!! Leave her alone and let the DVLA and her family decide. This lady is registered with the DVLA so the DVLA own her and makes them decisions. white rabbit9

10:10am Sun 22 Dec 13

reasonable75 says...

So if you saw someone staggering out of a pub you wouldn't report then, and would disagree with anyone else reporting them?

If you know of someone who's eyesight was failing you wouldn't report it?
So if you saw someone staggering out of a pub you wouldn't report then, and would disagree with anyone else reporting them? If you know of someone who's eyesight was failing you wouldn't report it? reasonable75

12:06pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Danonymouse says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
She was going for an appointment at a hospital that closed 10 years ago.. Is that bad enough??
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]She was going for an appointment at a hospital that closed 10 years ago.. Is that bad enough?? Danonymouse

1:58pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Marty1979 says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
janice1980 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Simon bald wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.
Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving. The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'
That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.
With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her
Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone.
At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable
At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable

Safety? SAFETY? You wanna wrap people up in cotton wool? I got an idea lets get rid of every car just incase, SAFETY FIRST! OH NO their was an iron that accidentally burnt someone. IDEA?.........Lets get rid of Irons! OH NO! wet floor!! someone tripped over!,..........IDEA

! Let's not wash the floors ever again. Everyday we face dangers, you can't control everything in this crazy world. Next thing you will be advocating getting rid of alcohol, one of the biggest killers of humans by far, but no lets pick on some poor old lady, HEALTH AND SAFETY!! HEALTH AND SAFETY!!

Leave her alone and let the DVLA and her family decide. This lady is registered with the DVLA so the DVLA own her and makes them decisions.
Yes there are risks in most things, but people minimise these - using a hot iron, would you put it on bare skin? A wet floor, well don't run

This lady has a medical condition that causes her to forget, so the risk needs to be minimised. Perhaps she needs her driving assessed to see if she is still safe, leaving it up to her means she genuinely thinks she is safe

But she is actually breaking the law, as her condition must be declared to the DVLA, they might ask for a medical report and it might say she is safe to carry on driving

Why do you need to insist she carries on driving - are you a medical expert?
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]janice1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR I GOT TO HAVE ME SOME FEAR. Blimey let's lock up everyone so no one get's knocked over by a car. Over reactions of insane people. Dementia (taken from Latin, originally meaning "madness", http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Dementia I could argue the people on here are suffering from dementia.[/p][/quote]Interesting white rabbit. This is a direct quote from the link that you put on your message 'Driving with dementia could lead to severe injury or even death to self and others. Doctors should advise appropriate testing on when to quit driving.[62] The United Kingdom DVLA (Driving & Vehicle Licensing Agency) states that people with dementia who specifically have poor short term memory, disorientation, lack of insight or judgment are not fit to drive, and in these instances the DVLA must be informed so that the driving licence can be revoked.'[/p][/quote]That was the answer I was looking for, DVLA own's MARIE WAND, MARIE WAND is the registered PERSON with the DVLA. So it is up to them to take away her driving licence if she is unfit to drive. Who are we because she has dementia to judge whether she can and can not drive? Do we know how far gone she is? Just because she couldn't remember where she parked the car doesn't automatically mean, remove license.[/p][/quote]With all due respect, it was a little more than simply forgetting where she left her car. Lots of people do that. She didn't turn up to an appointment at the memorial and ended up in a completely different borough bless her[/p][/quote]Is that it? better condemn me then, I missed an appointment, better take my license then. I don't wanna live in a world where people are policing people. Sh** happens to everyone.[/p][/quote]At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable[/p][/quote]At the end of the day you have your opinion and I happen to disagree with it as do many people. It's not about policing what people are doing it's about safety. If after the story she happens to injure someone then it will be entirely down to her irresponsible family. If she ran over a loved one of mine I would certainly make sure someone was held accountable Safety? SAFETY? You wanna wrap people up in cotton wool? I got an idea lets get rid of every car just incase, SAFETY FIRST! OH NO their was an iron that accidentally burnt someone. IDEA?.........Lets get rid of Irons! OH NO! wet floor!! someone tripped over!,..........IDEA ! Let's not wash the floors ever again. Everyday we face dangers, you can't control everything in this crazy world. Next thing you will be advocating getting rid of alcohol, one of the biggest killers of humans by far, but no lets pick on some poor old lady, HEALTH AND SAFETY!! HEALTH AND SAFETY!! Leave her alone and let the DVLA and her family decide. This lady is registered with the DVLA so the DVLA own her and makes them decisions.[/p][/quote]Yes there are risks in most things, but people minimise these - using a hot iron, would you put it on bare skin? A wet floor, well don't run This lady has a medical condition that causes her to forget, so the risk needs to be minimised. Perhaps she needs her driving assessed to see if she is still safe, leaving it up to her means she genuinely thinks she is safe But she is actually breaking the law, as her condition must be declared to the DVLA, they might ask for a medical report and it might say she is safe to carry on driving Why do you need to insist she carries on driving - are you a medical expert? Marty1979

2:52pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Oldchap says...

Simon bald wrote:
how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns
Wondered about that - within minutes of a comment that she should stop driving there are half a dozen thumbs down

Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up

Strange that
[quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: how are all comments saying she should be off the road getting thumbs down? let's see the same people thumbing down when a member of their family is mowed down by this potty pensioner on her way to get a pepperoni passion from papa johns[/p][/quote]Wondered about that - within minutes of a comment that she should stop driving there are half a dozen thumbs down Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up Strange that Oldchap

3:35pm Sun 22 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up

So is it written in stone someone is gonna get killed? I want this crystal ball for the lottery numbers. S**t happens.
Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up So is it written in stone someone is gonna get killed? I want this crystal ball for the lottery numbers. S**t happens. white rabbit9

3:40pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Oldchap says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up

So is it written in stone someone is gonna get killed? I want this crystal ball for the lottery numbers. S**t happens.
**** happens? Maybe it'll happen to you

It could be Marie Wand who is injured
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up So is it written in stone someone is gonna get killed? I want this crystal ball for the lottery numbers. S**t happens.[/p][/quote]**** happens? Maybe it'll happen to you It could be Marie Wand who is injured Oldchap

4:12pm Sun 22 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Oldchap wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up

So is it written in stone someone is gonna get killed? I want this crystal ball for the lottery numbers. S**t happens.
**** happens? Maybe it'll happen to you

It could be Marie Wand who is injured
Well it will once you give me the numbers.
[quote][p][bold]Oldchap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up So is it written in stone someone is gonna get killed? I want this crystal ball for the lottery numbers. S**t happens.[/p][/quote]**** happens? Maybe it'll happen to you It could be Marie Wand who is injured[/p][/quote]Well it will once you give me the numbers. white rabbit9

4:36pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Oldchap says...

Try 9, 13, 26, 29, 36, 41

If they don't come up remember s**t happens
Try 9, 13, 26, 29, 36, 41 If they don't come up remember s**t happens Oldchap

8:51am Mon 23 Dec 13

janice1980 says...

Maybe whiterabbit9 is mr wand!
Maybe whiterabbit9 is mr wand! janice1980

9:00am Mon 23 Dec 13

janice1980 says...

Danonymouse wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
She was going for an appointment at a hospital that closed 10 years ago.. Is that bad enough??
The memorial is very much open. It is a mental health hospital and is run by Oxleas NHS
[quote][p][bold]Danonymouse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]She was going for an appointment at a hospital that closed 10 years ago.. Is that bad enough??[/p][/quote]The memorial is very much open. It is a mental health hospital and is run by Oxleas NHS janice1980

9:39am Mon 23 Dec 13

PaulErith says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
Forget the old lady, YOU should not be driving! One doesn't forget to indicate, put the handbrake on or fail to pull away at traffic lights. Please stop driving now as you are a liability and danger to everyone on the road.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]Forget the old lady, YOU should not be driving! One doesn't forget to indicate, put the handbrake on or fail to pull away at traffic lights. Please stop driving now as you are a liability and danger to everyone on the road. PaulErith

9:45am Mon 23 Dec 13

PaulErith says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up So is it written in stone someone is gonna get killed? I want this crystal ball for the lottery numbers. S**t happens.
No not written in stone. However, the idea of the road and licensing laws is to give the best opportunity to keep the roads safe. That's why someone that gains 12 points speeding is normally banned. They're not definitely going to have a bad accident, but their propensity to do so is higher hence why they are removed from the roads. The point is that if someone has dementia, there is a risk that they get confused and make a bad mistake on the road. Therefore, they should not be allowed to drive.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Yet those telling her to carry on driving (until someone is injured or killed) get loads of thumbs up So is it written in stone someone is gonna get killed? I want this crystal ball for the lottery numbers. S**t happens.[/p][/quote]No not written in stone. However, the idea of the road and licensing laws is to give the best opportunity to keep the roads safe. That's why someone that gains 12 points speeding is normally banned. They're not definitely going to have a bad accident, but their propensity to do so is higher hence why they are removed from the roads. The point is that if someone has dementia, there is a risk that they get confused and make a bad mistake on the road. Therefore, they should not be allowed to drive. PaulErith

2:39pm Mon 23 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

PaulErith wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
Forget the old lady, YOU should not be driving! One doesn't forget to indicate, put the handbrake on or fail to pull away at traffic lights. Please stop driving now as you are a liability and danger to everyone on the road.
Anddddddddddddddd what are you going to do about it? Nothing because you wont do nothing just sit on your lazy **** complaining. Do you know anything about law? or are you just one of those who, like in 1942 just went around with a gun and was given authority by some looney to kill.
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]Forget the old lady, YOU should not be driving! One doesn't forget to indicate, put the handbrake on or fail to pull away at traffic lights. Please stop driving now as you are a liability and danger to everyone on the road.[/p][/quote]Anddddddddddddddd what are you going to do about it? Nothing because you wont do nothing just sit on your lazy **** complaining. Do you know anything about law? or are you just one of those who, like in 1942 just went around with a gun and was given authority by some looney to kill. white rabbit9

3:02pm Mon 23 Dec 13

PaulErith says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
PaulErith wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
Forget the old lady, YOU should not be driving! One doesn't forget to indicate, put the handbrake on or fail to pull away at traffic lights. Please stop driving now as you are a liability and danger to everyone on the road.
Anddddddddddddddd what are you going to do about it? Nothing because you wont do nothing just sit on your lazy **** complaining. Do you know anything about law? or are you just one of those who, like in 1942 just went around with a gun and was given authority by some looney to kill.
Have you lost the plot? What on Earth are you going on about? Why don't you spend a bit more time learning the basics of driving (indicating, etc) and less time making no sense on here!
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]Forget the old lady, YOU should not be driving! One doesn't forget to indicate, put the handbrake on or fail to pull away at traffic lights. Please stop driving now as you are a liability and danger to everyone on the road.[/p][/quote]Anddddddddddddddd what are you going to do about it? Nothing because you wont do nothing just sit on your lazy **** complaining. Do you know anything about law? or are you just one of those who, like in 1942 just went around with a gun and was given authority by some looney to kill.[/p][/quote]Have you lost the plot? What on Earth are you going on about? Why don't you spend a bit more time learning the basics of driving (indicating, etc) and less time making no sense on here! PaulErith

3:20pm Mon 23 Dec 13

marc8888 says...

White Rabbit certainly is nuts in several ways... getting a bit scared here. But it is a good Jefferson Airplane song.
White Rabbit certainly is nuts in several ways... getting a bit scared here. But it is a good Jefferson Airplane song. marc8888

3:42pm Mon 23 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

marc8888 wrote:
White Rabbit certainly is nuts in several ways... getting a bit scared here. But it is a good Jefferson Airplane song.
Why several ways? You would get scared If a police officer came over to you and asked you for I.D. What's that remind me of? Zyor paperz pleaze.
[quote][p][bold]marc8888[/bold] wrote: White Rabbit certainly is nuts in several ways... getting a bit scared here. But it is a good Jefferson Airplane song.[/p][/quote]Why several ways? You would get scared If a police officer came over to you and asked you for I.D. What's that remind me of? Zyor paperz pleaze. white rabbit9

7:07pm Mon 23 Dec 13

marc8888 says...

Police officers usually only ask for your ID - in motoring terms - if you've done something wrong or your car is illegal in any way...
Police officers usually only ask for your ID - in motoring terms - if you've done something wrong or your car is illegal in any way... marc8888

7:21pm Mon 23 Dec 13

reasonable75 says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
marc8888 wrote:
White Rabbit certainly is nuts in several ways... getting a bit scared here. But it is a good Jefferson Airplane song.
Why several ways? You would get scared If a police officer came over to you and asked you for I.D. What's that remind me of? Zyor paperz pleaze.
You're the first to mention a police officer asking for ID, not sure how relevant it is to the debate if the old lady should continue driving

Perhaps it's a regular occurrence for you?
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marc8888[/bold] wrote: White Rabbit certainly is nuts in several ways... getting a bit scared here. But it is a good Jefferson Airplane song.[/p][/quote]Why several ways? You would get scared If a police officer came over to you and asked you for I.D. What's that remind me of? Zyor paperz pleaze.[/p][/quote]You're the first to mention a police officer asking for ID, not sure how relevant it is to the debate if the old lady should continue driving Perhaps it's a regular occurrence for you? reasonable75

7:30pm Mon 23 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

marc8888 wrote:
Police officers usually only ask for your ID - in motoring terms - if you've done something wrong or your car is illegal in any way...
Proves you know nothing.
[quote][p][bold]marc8888[/bold] wrote: Police officers usually only ask for your ID - in motoring terms - if you've done something wrong or your car is illegal in any way...[/p][/quote]Proves you know nothing. white rabbit9

8:44am Tue 24 Dec 13

PaulErith says...

reasonable75 wrote:
white rabbit9 wrote:
marc8888 wrote: White Rabbit certainly is nuts in several ways... getting a bit scared here. But it is a good Jefferson Airplane song.
Why several ways? You would get scared If a police officer came over to you and asked you for I.D. What's that remind me of? Zyor paperz pleaze.
You're the first to mention a police officer asking for ID, not sure how relevant it is to the debate if the old lady should continue driving Perhaps it's a regular occurrence for you?
I don't think any of White Rabbit's ramblings have been relevant to the debate!
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marc8888[/bold] wrote: White Rabbit certainly is nuts in several ways... getting a bit scared here. But it is a good Jefferson Airplane song.[/p][/quote]Why several ways? You would get scared If a police officer came over to you and asked you for I.D. What's that remind me of? Zyor paperz pleaze.[/p][/quote]You're the first to mention a police officer asking for ID, not sure how relevant it is to the debate if the old lady should continue driving Perhaps it's a regular occurrence for you?[/p][/quote]I don't think any of White Rabbit's ramblings have been relevant to the debate! PaulErith

9:51am Tue 24 Dec 13

mick_a says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.
Would it be safe to assume that you are a mini cab driver? If not you should consider it as a career path, you wouldn't even need any training as you seem to have all the attributes already.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Do you know how many accidents happen by people who don't even have any problems with them? How many accidents happen everyday by 17 -25 year olds and even killed? and we are worried about 1 ladys dementia? I forgot where I put my car, am I to have my car keys taken away? Did anyone ask how bad the dementia is? I could have dementia the amount of times I forget to indicate, forget to put the handbrake on, forget to brake, forget to pull away at the traffic lights. Pick on someone else.[/p][/quote]Would it be safe to assume that you are a mini cab driver? If not you should consider it as a career path, you wouldn't even need any training as you seem to have all the attributes already. mick_a

10:56am Tue 24 Dec 13

Dr. Nick says...

It does not take a genius to realise that White Rabbit has been manipulating the comments on the posts - this inflated sense of self importance is a sign of Narcissistic Personality Disorder as described by the ICD10. The good news is White Rabbit does not have to inform the DVLA about this and is still allowed to drive. Those with Dementia however have to get their GP and the DVLA to assess their 'degree' of Dementia on a regular basis, and re-assess regularly if they continue to drive; this is a point of law.

Thus I am sure Mrs. Wand will be seeing her GP before too long for a further assessment. White Rabbit, on the other hand, will just keep manipulating the 'Thumbs Up' and 'Thumbs Down' regardless of what is said ... It is a recognised condition, so play nicely.
It does not take a genius to realise that White Rabbit has been manipulating the comments on the posts - this inflated sense of self importance is a sign of Narcissistic Personality Disorder as described by the ICD10. The good news is White Rabbit does not have to inform the DVLA about this and is still allowed to drive. Those with Dementia however have to get their GP and the DVLA to assess their 'degree' of Dementia on a regular basis, and re-assess regularly if they continue to drive; this is a point of law. Thus I am sure Mrs. Wand will be seeing her GP before too long for a further assessment. White Rabbit, on the other hand, will just keep manipulating the 'Thumbs Up' and 'Thumbs Down' regardless of what is said ... It is a recognised condition, so play nicely. Dr. Nick

11:42am Tue 24 Dec 13

Biffo. says...

In the spirit of the season Laura Bullions would make my Christmas stocking wish list.

nor 'arf !!
In the spirit of the season Laura Bullions would make my Christmas stocking wish list. nor 'arf !! Biffo.

2:24pm Tue 24 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Dr. Nick wrote:
It does not take a genius to realise that White Rabbit has been manipulating the comments on the posts - this inflated sense of self importance is a sign of Narcissistic Personality Disorder as described by the ICD10. The good news is White Rabbit does not have to inform the DVLA about this and is still allowed to drive. Those with Dementia however have to get their GP and the DVLA to assess their 'degree' of Dementia on a regular basis, and re-assess regularly if they continue to drive; this is a point of law.

Thus I am sure Mrs. Wand will be seeing her GP before too long for a further assessment. White Rabbit, on the other hand, will just keep manipulating the 'Thumbs Up' and 'Thumbs Down' regardless of what is said ... It is a recognised condition, so play nicely.
Manipulating????? or telling the truth? Me narcissistic? Common purpose anyone? The nail that sticks out most always gets hit first.

I hardly do the thumbs up and thumbs down. About 5 hits. Just being honest, people are entitled to their opinions and it really is pointless anyway, just a bit of fun.

I have seen this before, people need control and when someone doesn't conform to the ideas of the few then that label gets put on that person and the sheeple attack, so who is manipulating?

When I took my drivers test I was told the examiner was the type to only pass 'women', the guy was an EGO maniac, he had power and loved it. It's ok his bosses told him to pass more blokes to balance it out. But luckily I was and still is a good drivers and courteous driver. I am staggered by this response and plain as the nose on my face still has no idea what is going on. Dr nick? do something useful and analyse the government their the real narcissistic psychopaths.
[quote][p][bold]Dr. Nick[/bold] wrote: It does not take a genius to realise that White Rabbit has been manipulating the comments on the posts - this inflated sense of self importance is a sign of Narcissistic Personality Disorder as described by the ICD10. The good news is White Rabbit does not have to inform the DVLA about this and is still allowed to drive. Those with Dementia however have to get their GP and the DVLA to assess their 'degree' of Dementia on a regular basis, and re-assess regularly if they continue to drive; this is a point of law. Thus I am sure Mrs. Wand will be seeing her GP before too long for a further assessment. White Rabbit, on the other hand, will just keep manipulating the 'Thumbs Up' and 'Thumbs Down' regardless of what is said ... It is a recognised condition, so play nicely.[/p][/quote]Manipulating????? or telling the truth? Me narcissistic? Common purpose anyone? The nail that sticks out most always gets hit first. I hardly do the thumbs up and thumbs down. About 5 hits. Just being honest, people are entitled to their opinions and it really is pointless anyway, just a bit of fun. I have seen this before, people need control and when someone doesn't conform to the ideas of the few then that label gets put on that person and the sheeple attack, so who is manipulating? When I took my drivers test I was told the examiner was the type to only pass 'women', the guy was an EGO maniac, he had power and loved it. It's ok his bosses told him to pass more blokes to balance it out. But luckily I was and still is a good drivers and courteous driver. I am staggered by this response and plain as the nose on my face still has no idea what is going on. Dr nick? do something useful and analyse the government their the real narcissistic psychopaths. white rabbit9

2:28pm Tue 24 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Thus I am sure Mrs. Wand will be seeing her GP before too long for a further assessment. White Rabbit, on the other hand, will just keep manipulating the 'Thumbs Up' and 'Thumbs Down' regardless of what is said ... It is a recognised condition, so play nicely.

You are sure?

Dictionary term for 'sure'

'completely confident that one is right.'

Now who is showing narcissism?

Don't assume anything.
Thus I am sure Mrs. Wand will be seeing her GP before too long for a further assessment. White Rabbit, on the other hand, will just keep manipulating the 'Thumbs Up' and 'Thumbs Down' regardless of what is said ... It is a recognised condition, so play nicely. You are sure? Dictionary term for 'sure' 'completely confident that one is right.' Now who is showing narcissism? Don't assume anything. white rabbit9

3:43pm Tue 24 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Dr nick?

I can almost equate you Dr NIck with narcissism!

At the core of extreme narcissism is egotistical preoccupation with self, personal preferences, aspirations, needs, success, and how he/she is perceived by others. Some amount of basic narcissism is healthy, of course, but this type of narcissism is better termed as responsibly taking care of oneself. It is what I would call “normal” or “healthy” narcissism.

http://psychcentral.
com/blog/archives/20
08/08/04/how-to-spot
-a-narcissist/

If you are a Dr or someone who believe's he is?? I don't know if you are or not a Dr? From your response you show NARCISSISM!
Dr nick? I can almost equate you Dr NIck with narcissism! At the core of extreme narcissism is egotistical preoccupation with self, personal preferences, aspirations, needs, success, and how he/she is perceived by others. Some amount of basic narcissism is healthy, of course, but this type of narcissism is better termed as responsibly taking care of oneself. It is what I would call “normal” or “healthy” narcissism. http://psychcentral. com/blog/archives/20 08/08/04/how-to-spot -a-narcissist/ If you are a Dr or someone who believe's he is?? I don't know if you are or not a Dr? From your response you show NARCISSISM! white rabbit9

3:51pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Bob Downondiss says...

Well well Dr Nick it looks like you struck a raw nerve with our rabbit friend.

Perhaps you could prescribe him/her some contraceptives, well they breed like.......you know what.
Well well Dr Nick it looks like you struck a raw nerve with our rabbit friend. Perhaps you could prescribe him/her some contraceptives, well they breed like.......you know what. Bob Downondiss

4:29pm Tue 24 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Bob Downondiss wrote:
Well well Dr Nick it looks like you struck a raw nerve with our rabbit friend.

Perhaps you could prescribe him/her some contraceptives, well they breed like.......you know what.
TTRRRUUSSSTT MMEEE I'MM aa DDDOoocctttoorrrRRR!
!

I like that film: K pax, wow so many Dr's and yet so many sick people. Is their a link here? I mean Dr's are the biggest drug dealers on the planet. Look who owns the drug companies?

I like it, world war 2 to keep the prisoners in prison camps calm they introduced flouride the water system. If you raise your head above the rest then watch for the crazies to offer drugs to keep you SANE?????
[quote][p][bold]Bob Downondiss[/bold] wrote: Well well Dr Nick it looks like you struck a raw nerve with our rabbit friend. Perhaps you could prescribe him/her some contraceptives, well they breed like.......you know what.[/p][/quote]TTRRRUUSSSTT MMEEE I'MM aa DDDOoocctttoorrrRRR! ! I like that film: K pax, wow so many Dr's and yet so many sick people. Is their a link here? I mean Dr's are the biggest drug dealers on the planet. Look who owns the drug companies? I like it, world war 2 to keep the prisoners in prison camps calm they introduced flouride the water system. If you raise your head above the rest then watch for the crazies to offer drugs to keep you SANE????? white rabbit9

6:03pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Dr. Nick says...

White Rabbit, you may not realise, but you ended this thread quite some time ago when you invoked Godwin's Law (something else for you to look up and become acquainted with). Since then you have technically been talking to yourself and manipulating your own comments.

I would also like to add here the common misquote attributed to Queen Gertrude in Macbeth; Act III, Scene II ... but you can look that one up as well. Happy Christmas!
White Rabbit, you may not realise, but you ended this thread quite some time ago when you invoked Godwin's Law (something else for you to look up and become acquainted with). Since then you have technically been talking to yourself and manipulating your own comments. I would also like to add here the common misquote attributed to Queen Gertrude in Macbeth; Act III, Scene II ... but you can look that one up as well. Happy Christmas! Dr. Nick

7:14pm Tue 24 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Dr. Nick wrote:
White Rabbit, you may not realise, but you ended this thread quite some time ago when you invoked Godwin's Law (something else for you to look up and become acquainted with). Since then you have technically been talking to yourself and manipulating your own comments.

I would also like to add here the common misquote attributed to Queen Gertrude in Macbeth; Act III, Scene II ... but you can look that one up as well. Happy Christmas!
Don't you hate it when suddenly someone feels like they are on university challenge. I hope 'satan' brings you all your presents.
[quote][p][bold]Dr. Nick[/bold] wrote: White Rabbit, you may not realise, but you ended this thread quite some time ago when you invoked Godwin's Law (something else for you to look up and become acquainted with). Since then you have technically been talking to yourself and manipulating your own comments. I would also like to add here the common misquote attributed to Queen Gertrude in Macbeth; Act III, Scene II ... but you can look that one up as well. Happy Christmas![/p][/quote]Don't you hate it when suddenly someone feels like they are on university challenge. I hope 'satan' brings you all your presents. white rabbit9

8:09pm Tue 24 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Godwins law:

Is'nt funny how mike godwin invented this law:

: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler or to Nazis to think a bit harder about the Holocaust", Godwin has written.

Now the history that you need to hear and the evidence is over whelming. World war 1 & 2 was about the Rothschild zionist's getting jews over to palestine. world war 1 wasn't enough so world war 2 had to be created to make sure jews would get to palestine to create IS RA EL.
The holocaust, 6 million? don't think so, you have jews writing books denying the holocaust.

So Godwins law is just another law to stop people comparing the now jews in Israel who are funnily enough comparable to the NAZI's. I hate to do a you DR, but go check it out.
Godwins law: Is'nt funny how mike godwin invented this law: : I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler or to Nazis to think a bit harder about the Holocaust", Godwin has written. Now the history that you need to hear and the evidence is over whelming. World war 1 & 2 was about the Rothschild zionist's getting jews over to palestine. world war 1 wasn't enough so world war 2 had to be created to make sure jews would get to palestine to create IS RA EL. The holocaust, 6 million? don't think so, you have jews writing books denying the holocaust. So Godwins law is just another law to stop people comparing the now jews in Israel who are funnily enough comparable to the NAZI's. I hate to do a you DR, but go check it out. white rabbit9

7:26am Wed 25 Dec 13

christofearn says...

Well, so much for a 'reasoned debate' about the capability to drive safely, of a sweet lady who has admitted (or her family has, at least) to being a dementia sufferer and who, according to NS, set off from Danson Lane for the War Memorial Health Centre, ended up in another borough, bought a pizza, lost her car, got a taxi home and had no idea where she had been or where her car was.

It's sad (for me at least) to note that, without exception, every comment above that has upheld the idea that this sweet lady should, perhaps, not be driving for her own and others safety has received a plethora of 'thumbs downs'. Is it safe to assume then that all the 'thumbs downers' would also advocate the abolishing of the drink driving laws, eyesight testing or even, indeed, the dropping of the driving test all together. These are obvious extensions of the apparent thinking behind the distaste shown to those commenters who advocate safety and common sense where driving is concerned. We are all guilty of some arrogance on the roads where safety is concerned, witness, for example, the number of people who still blatantly use their mobile phone when driving, I see dozens every day. So lets get rid of that law too (for all it's worth) and put up with the texting and ''one hand' driving crashes that go along with it. Keep our roads free from rules and regulations, let anarchy dominate, we are almost there already!

Merry Christmas!!
Well, so much for a 'reasoned debate' about the capability to drive safely, of a sweet lady who has admitted (or her family has, at least) to being a dementia sufferer and who, according to NS, set off from Danson Lane for the War Memorial Health Centre, ended up in another borough, bought a pizza, lost her car, got a taxi home and had no idea where she had been or where her car was. It's sad (for me at least) to note that, without exception, every comment above that has upheld the idea that this sweet lady should, perhaps, not be driving for her own and others safety has received a plethora of 'thumbs downs'. Is it safe to assume then that all the 'thumbs downers' would also advocate the abolishing of the drink driving laws, eyesight testing or even, indeed, the dropping of the driving test all together. These are obvious extensions of the apparent thinking behind the distaste shown to those commenters who advocate safety and common sense where driving is concerned. We are all guilty of some arrogance on the roads where safety is concerned, witness, for example, the number of people who still blatantly use their mobile phone when driving, I see dozens every day. So lets get rid of that law too (for all it's worth) and put up with the texting and ''one hand' driving crashes that go along with it. Keep our roads free from rules and regulations, let anarchy dominate, we are almost there already! Merry Christmas!! christofearn

8:13am Wed 25 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

It's only western culture that believes in materialism. 1 small scratch and it's the end of the world on a car. In other countries cars are just a machine to get you from a to b. Have we got it right in britain or have they got it right in other countries? I know a woman who paniced at losing a nail. pathetic but true. If we keep on this road of FEAR FEAR, safety safety we are not going to leave the house. **** happens and some people are going to drive even with medical conditions as long as they are able and don't continuously have accidents, it's ok. Money don't exist in the first place. it's all an illusion anyway.
It's only western culture that believes in materialism. 1 small scratch and it's the end of the world on a car. In other countries cars are just a machine to get you from a to b. Have we got it right in britain or have they got it right in other countries? I know a woman who paniced at losing a nail. pathetic but true. If we keep on this road of FEAR FEAR, safety safety we are not going to leave the house. **** happens and some people are going to drive even with medical conditions as long as they are able and don't continuously have accidents, it's ok. Money don't exist in the first place. it's all an illusion anyway. white rabbit9

6:19am Fri 27 Dec 13

christofearn says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
It's only western culture that believes in materialism. 1 small scratch and it's the end of the world on a car. In other countries cars are just a machine to get you from a to b. Have we got it right in britain or have they got it right in other countries? I know a woman who paniced at losing a nail. pathetic but true. If we keep on this road of FEAR FEAR, safety safety we are not going to leave the house. **** happens and some people are going to drive even with medical conditions as long as they are able and don't continuously have accidents, it's ok. Money don't exist in the first place. it's all an illusion anyway.
Quite what loosing a nail has to do with the debate about the morality of driving whilst possible being medically unfit to do so, is hard to grasp! One of the most risk filled and hazardous things we do (or most of us do, anyway) is to drive, cycle, motorcycle on our roads. Everyday there are reports in the media of fatal or life changing incidents on our roads, incidents that wreck families and destroy lives, if not always fatally. Whilst we, apparently, as a nation are amongst the worlds safest road users, surely we do not have the right to 'drive how we want'! Surely it is better to 'tow the line' and obey the many rules that are there to protect us from ourselves. As for our dent fobia, 'white rabbit9' seems to have interpreted this debate as us worrying about our cars being dented and that this would be the only outcome of a road traffic incident/collision. This debate is about the increased risk of loosing life and limb and wrecking peoples lives. Until you have experienced the trauma of even the mildest RTC's let alone fatal ones, you will have no idea of what it is like and the fact that many people never recover from them even if they live.

So, we should be and I believe are, expected to police ourselves as to our ability to drive safely which includes speeding, using mobile phones, drinking and eating, reading and even arguing whilst driving. We should monitor our ability to react when, tired, drunk, unwell and heavily dosed on painkillers and other medications or when suffering from an illness such as dementia. That is all we are saying!!!
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: It's only western culture that believes in materialism. 1 small scratch and it's the end of the world on a car. In other countries cars are just a machine to get you from a to b. Have we got it right in britain or have they got it right in other countries? I know a woman who paniced at losing a nail. pathetic but true. If we keep on this road of FEAR FEAR, safety safety we are not going to leave the house. **** happens and some people are going to drive even with medical conditions as long as they are able and don't continuously have accidents, it's ok. Money don't exist in the first place. it's all an illusion anyway.[/p][/quote]Quite what loosing a nail has to do with the debate about the morality of driving whilst possible being medically unfit to do so, is hard to grasp! One of the most risk filled and hazardous things we do (or most of us do, anyway) is to drive, cycle, motorcycle on our roads. Everyday there are reports in the media of fatal or life changing incidents on our roads, incidents that wreck families and destroy lives, if not always fatally. Whilst we, apparently, as a nation are amongst the worlds safest road users, surely we do not have the right to 'drive how we want'! Surely it is better to 'tow the line' and obey the many rules that are there to protect us from ourselves. As for our dent fobia, 'white rabbit9' seems to have interpreted this debate as us worrying about our cars being dented and that this would be the only outcome of a road traffic incident/collision. This debate is about the increased risk of loosing life and limb and wrecking peoples lives. Until you have experienced the trauma of even the mildest RTC's let alone fatal ones, you will have no idea of what it is like and the fact that many people never recover from them even if they live. So, we should be and I believe are, expected to police ourselves as to our ability to drive safely which includes speeding, using mobile phones, drinking and eating, reading and even arguing whilst driving. We should monitor our ability to react when, tired, drunk, unwell and heavily dosed on painkillers and other medications or when suffering from an illness such as dementia. That is all we are saying!!! christofearn

9:06am Fri 27 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

So, we should be and I believe are, expected to police ourselves as to our ability to drive safely which includes speeding, using mobile phones, drinking and eating, reading and even arguing whilst driving. We should monitor our ability to react when, tired, drunk, unwell and heavily dosed on painkillers and other medications or when suffering from an illness such as dementia. That is all we are saying!!!

Are you on crack? Yeah you can say that, but in reality doesn't work.
So, we should be and I believe are, expected to police ourselves as to our ability to drive safely which includes speeding, using mobile phones, drinking and eating, reading and even arguing whilst driving. We should monitor our ability to react when, tired, drunk, unwell and heavily dosed on painkillers and other medications or when suffering from an illness such as dementia. That is all we are saying!!! Are you on crack? Yeah you can say that, but in reality doesn't work. white rabbit9

3:05pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Garry.get-involved says...

my nan has dementia, my mum is close to it as-well; there is no way on earth i will let them drive; irresponsible of the family to let her do so, not only does this sort of stuff happen but i end up with a tone of parking fine's to weigh out for.. if you know you are loosing the plot then stop being selfish and get of the road, you will only cause danger for others on the road.
Sorry if this has offended anyone but come on guys, don't put up the excuse of what is best for yourselves and focus on what is best for other's on the road, if you know your a risk then get a bus!
my nan has dementia, my mum is close to it as-well; there is no way on earth i will let them drive; irresponsible of the family to let her do so, not only does this sort of stuff happen but i end up with a tone of parking fine's to weigh out for.. if you know you are loosing the plot then stop being selfish and get of the road, you will only cause danger for others on the road. Sorry if this has offended anyone but come on guys, don't put up the excuse of what is best for yourselves and focus on what is best for other's on the road, if you know your a risk then get a bus! Garry.get-involved

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