Beckenham residents incensed by fly-tippers as council refuses to clear up mess

This Is Local London: Rubbish dumped in Eden Park Avenue. Rubbish dumped in Eden Park Avenue.

FLY-TIPPERS have incensed the residents of a Beckenham street - and to make matters worse, the council won't clear up the mess.

Three weeks ago fly-tippers struck in an alley off Eden Park Avenue, leaving behind a pile of household junk.

The council refused to clear the rubbish because it had been dumped on private land, leaving Paul Dove to pay around £50 to get it taken away.

However within days of its removal a huge pile of bricks, breeze blocks and timbre appeared in its place.

Mr Dove, 51, said: "The first time it happened my neighbour told me it was the first time in 10 years someone had dumped a pile of rubbish that big.

"I though that's fine, I'll pay out and we'll get someone to come and pick it up.

"When I thought that was bad enough it happened again.

"On November 27 at around 3am, my neighbour heard an almighty smash.

"He looked out the window and saw them shoot off.

"And this pile was huge. You could fill a small skip with it.

"We would have to pay hundreds of pounds to get it removed.

"But why should we be responsible? I think this time it'll end up just staying there."

This Is Local London:

Mr Dove called for help from the council, saying he feared that should he and his neighbours remove the rubble again, it would just be replaced by more trash.

He added: "The police cannot do anything about it, the council won't do anything about it.

"We are all tax payers, law abiding citizens, just because we have bought houses why shouldn't we be helped with this sort of thing?"

Executive councillor for environment Colin Smith said: "The owners of private alleyways are in law responsible both for access to and for clearing away any tipping which occurs within them.

"Mr Dove has been advised to consider the possibility of erecting gates or bollards to prevent any recurrence of this blight and also offered an example in the immediate vicinity of his home where other neighbours have come together and taken simple, inexpensive positive action to solve an all but identical problem."

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3:42pm Thu 5 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

Here we go again. STOP EMPLOYING THE IDIOTS WHO DO IT.
Here we go again. STOP EMPLOYING THE IDIOTS WHO DO IT. white rabbit9

4:06pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Look no further than the fly be night builders from the area in beat up old white vans. See 'em all the time in that café or the Brickies givin it the large.
Look no further than the fly be night builders from the area in beat up old white vans. See 'em all the time in that café or the Brickies givin it the large. Gypo.Joe

6:02pm Thu 5 Dec 13

sayitasseeit says...

The council are a bit slow here, this is a cash cow install CCTV for the hotspots of fly tipping and dish out the fines and court charges etc.
The council are a bit slow here, this is a cash cow install CCTV for the hotspots of fly tipping and dish out the fines and court charges etc. sayitasseeit

9:39am Fri 6 Dec 13

highway warrior says...

Private alleyway, responsibility of the land owners, why should the council bear the responsibility and cost?
Private alleyway, responsibility of the land owners, why should the council bear the responsibility and cost? highway warrior

9:49am Fri 6 Dec 13

Boris bighead says...

Typical Tory council response.
Typical Tory council response. Boris bighead

11:08am Fri 6 Dec 13

white rabbit9 says...

sayitasseeit wrote:
The council are a bit slow here, this is a cash cow install CCTV for the hotspots of fly tipping and dish out the fines and court charges etc.
Yeah lets put camera's everywhere! When does it stop?
[quote][p][bold]sayitasseeit[/bold] wrote: The council are a bit slow here, this is a cash cow install CCTV for the hotspots of fly tipping and dish out the fines and court charges etc.[/p][/quote]Yeah lets put camera's everywhere! When does it stop? white rabbit9

11:29am Fri 6 Dec 13

Gypo.Joe says...

CCTV ...LOL
CCTV ...LOL Gypo.Joe

2:26pm Fri 6 Dec 13

bnorther says...

I have to agree with the council here, it's private land. When you buy property you take on the upkeep.

If you were to sell the land for a profit you would gain, so you have to take on the responsibility as well.

If you want to stop it invest in some gates, or fencing, or CCTV.
I have to agree with the council here, it's private land. When you buy property you take on the upkeep. If you were to sell the land for a profit you would gain, so you have to take on the responsibility as well. If you want to stop it invest in some gates, or fencing, or CCTV. bnorther

9:09pm Fri 6 Dec 13

ModernToss says...

highway warrior wrote:
Private alleyway, responsibility of the land owners, why should the council bear the responsibility and cost?
Agree to some extent but don't people have the right to live somewhere without some ariswipe dumping their rubbish behind their houses?

A lot of the folks that live there are elderly and can't afford to get together and pay £80 every fortnight to clean up someone else's mess.

I know it's not practical to fund a clean up for everyone but It's a shame nothing is in place for them on the off occasion that this happens.

They get my sympathy that's for sure.
[quote][p][bold]highway warrior[/bold] wrote: Private alleyway, responsibility of the land owners, why should the council bear the responsibility and cost?[/p][/quote]Agree to some extent but don't people have the right to live somewhere without some ariswipe dumping their rubbish behind their houses? A lot of the folks that live there are elderly and can't afford to get together and pay £80 every fortnight to clean up someone else's mess. I know it's not practical to fund a clean up for everyone but It's a shame nothing is in place for them on the off occasion that this happens. They get my sympathy that's for sure. ModernToss

6:06am Sat 7 Dec 13

sarfflondonbird says...

bnorther wrote:
I have to agree with the council here, it's private land. When you buy property you take on the upkeep.

If you were to sell the land for a profit you would gain, so you have to take on the responsibility as well.

If you want to stop it invest in some gates, or fencing, or CCTV.
Yes, but the council soon want to know about your private land which belongs to you when it involves council tax and planning permissions etc...DON'T THEY?
[quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: I have to agree with the council here, it's private land. When you buy property you take on the upkeep. If you were to sell the land for a profit you would gain, so you have to take on the responsibility as well. If you want to stop it invest in some gates, or fencing, or CCTV.[/p][/quote]Yes, but the council soon want to know about your private land which belongs to you when it involves council tax and planning permissions etc...DON'T THEY? sarfflondonbird

9:55am Sat 7 Dec 13

englishman333 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Look no further than the fly be night builders from the area in beat up old white vans. See 'em all the time in that café or the Brickies givin it the large.
why dont you go in the café or the boozer instead of hiding on here all day? your pic is on the wall lol
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Look no further than the fly be night builders from the area in beat up old white vans. See 'em all the time in that café or the Brickies givin it the large.[/p][/quote]why dont you go in the café or the boozer instead of hiding on here all day? your pic is on the wall lol englishman333

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