Mentally ill Downham man on hunger strike after his benefits are taken away

George Rolph remains on hunger strike after his benefits were taken away following an assessment by Atos.

George Rolph remains on hunger strike after his benefits were taken away following an assessment by Atos.

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A DOWNHAM man who suffers from post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), leaving him unable to work, is on hunger strike after his benefits were taken away.

George Rolph, 60, of Capstone Road, has been considered unfit for work many times before, but following an assessment by Atos Healthcare last month, he was - he says wrongly - deemed capable.

This means he is no longer entitled to the benefits that were keeping him alive.

Work capability assessment tests, carried out by Atos on behalf of the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), were introduced in 2008 and measure a person's entitlement to employment and support allowance by determining whether they are fit for employment.

Since then the media has increasingly reported failings in the assessment of mental health.

Last week, two people with mental health problems won a legal challenge against the tests, while two weeks ago a GP who used to work for Atos claimed they were designed to incorrectly assess claimants as being fit for work.

The condition that affects Mr Rolph is the result of years of physical and mental abuse at the hands of a number of women.

He suffers from bouts of depression and frequently experiences terrifying flashbacks that leave him in tears, and although he has tried to work he finds it too difficult.

He told News Shopper: "It is horrendous. Triggers (for flashbacks) can be anything related to the abuse I received.

"They are caused by external factors, it can be anything. Routine is incredibly hard to maintain.

"I can't be alone in a room with a women."

On Monday (May 20), to highlight his plight and the plight of people like him, he went on hunger strike, and has had no food or fluids since.

Mr Rolph said: "The way I see it I won't be able to pay rent anymore so I'll to be thrown out onto the streets, and I don't know what I'll do then.

"If I'm going to die I might as well do it in the comfort of my own home, by my choosing.

"Since the government brought Atos in they have inflicted misery and death on too many people with their heartless acts."

His aim is to raise enough awareness to get Atos stopped, and to have them held to account.

He said: "What Atos is doing is horrendous. The system they have got is done with computers.

"It is robotic. It is not personal and it does not take into account individual circumstances.

"For them it is just about ticking boxes, and you can't do that with people who suffer from mental health problems."

He added: "It is my life. I shall end it in my way while I still have that choice.

"I will not be murdered by savage unfeeling suits in Westminster and the civil service."

An Atos Healthcare spokesperson said: "While our doctors, nurses and physiotherapists are frequently targeted by those opposed to the employment and support allowance and work capability assessments, Atos Healthcare does not set the criteria or make the decisions about whether someone is entitled to benefits.

"Our trained professionals go to every effort to carry out their carefully defined role with compassion and sensitivity for the concerns and pressures that can be felt by those being assessed.

"Atos Healthcare joins those who have done so already in urging Mr Rolph to end his hunger strike."

A DWP spokesperson said: "The work capability assessment assesses someone’s capacity for work and looks at what a person can do because we know conditions affect different people in different ways.

"A decision on whether someone is well enough to work is taken following a thorough face to face assessment and after consideration of all the supporting medical evidence provided by the claimant.

"We have made considerable improvements to the work capability assessment to make it fairer and more effective.

"We encourage people to provide as much medical evidence as possible when they apply for employment and support allowance. If someone disagrees with the outcome of their claim, they have the right to submit new evidence and appeal."

UPDATE:

Mr Rolph has been taking fluids since Sunday (May 26). He is still not eating food, and intends to continue that way.

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5:24pm Fri 24 May 13

Brook says...

Get to work and take your mind off your problems, which in the bigger picture are not really problems more like self abuse.
Get to work and take your mind off your problems, which in the bigger picture are not really problems more like self abuse. Brook
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8:51pm Fri 24 May 13

Slonik says...

Methinks someone needs a proof reader...
Methinks someone needs a proof reader... Slonik
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2:39pm Sat 25 May 13

goldenbroomboy says...

Brook wrote:
Get to work and take your mind off your problems, which in the bigger picture are not really problems more like self abuse.
Either you have not read the article or you are just trolling.

If you want to troll, pick on those who deserve it, not those who are harmless.
[quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get to work and take your mind off your problems, which in the bigger picture are not really problems more like self abuse.[/p][/quote]Either you have not read the article or you are just trolling. If you want to troll, pick on those who deserve it, not those who are harmless. goldenbroomboy
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9:20pm Sat 25 May 13

pamela8 says...

we have to listen to Brook...After all she is one of the Golden ones....USED by the Government as a constant weapon against vulnerable people....Because they realy havent got much else have they...And Brook..if you are so deluded that you reckon you,ve not on this Cruel Governments hit list...Think again... unless you live in places like Belgravia/chelsea and are mega wealthy forget it....And if you think that you are exempt from accidents etc..think again.. ptsd is a terrible thing..can you even begin to understand it??? I doubt it....Go and get yourself a job with Atos..They dont have a clue either...you will be a credit to them...you are being USED by the Government...WISE UP!!
we have to listen to Brook...After all she is one of the Golden ones....USED by the Government as a constant weapon against vulnerable people....Because they realy havent got much else have they...And Brook..if you are so deluded that you reckon you,ve not on this Cruel Governments hit list...Think again... unless you live in places like Belgravia/chelsea and are mega wealthy forget it....And if you think that you are exempt from accidents etc..think again.. ptsd is a terrible thing..can you even begin to understand it??? I doubt it....Go and get yourself a job with Atos..They dont have a clue either...you will be a credit to them...you are being USED by the Government...WISE UP!! pamela8
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12:57am Sun 26 May 13

pamela8 says...

Golden ones ..meaning tax payer.....The Gvt constantly use it....of course the easily flattered 'tax payer' does not take into account that the majority of people have paid taxes,,,,
Golden ones ..meaning tax payer.....The Gvt constantly use it....of course the easily flattered 'tax payer' does not take into account that the majority of people have paid taxes,,,, pamela8
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5:58pm Sun 26 May 13

beck123 says...

Atos......Are not all trained in Medical issues.And those that are are useless. I suffered a major Heart Attack.At a meeting with Atos the person dealing with me told me I hadn't,despite having all the relevant documentation and 11 boxes of Tablets.....When i received their report they stated that I was fit to work.The section that interested me was the one that said I had full use of both my hands.Funny that as I was born without a left arm,and wear a Prosthetic limb which was clearly visable. Pretty useless in my book...
Atos......Are not all trained in Medical issues.And those that are are useless. I suffered a major Heart Attack.At a meeting with Atos the person dealing with me told me I hadn't,despite having all the relevant documentation and 11 boxes of Tablets.....When i received their report they stated that I was fit to work.The section that interested me was the one that said I had full use of both my hands.Funny that as I was born without a left arm,and wear a Prosthetic limb which was clearly visable. Pretty useless in my book... beck123
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8:32pm Sun 26 May 13

pamela8 says...

Beck 123 so sorry you,ve had to go through all that ....To be honest if you went in holding your head under your arm they,d still pass you as fit for work...I have known many people with various illnesses like advanced cancer,ms,,mental illness and these unqualified idiots have still passed them as fit...And then they have to try and deal with the Consequences of their actions....while some die,some starve etc..And if that wasn t bad enough having to cope with ill informed people like Brook...But this is what the GVT has orchestrated,,,the hatred,against unwell people...fight them,,appeal.....don
t let them get away with lying about you,...
Beck 123 so sorry you,ve had to go through all that ....To be honest if you went in holding your head under your arm they,d still pass you as fit for work...I have known many people with various illnesses like advanced cancer,ms,,mental illness and these unqualified idiots have still passed them as fit...And then they have to try and deal with the Consequences of their actions....while some die,some starve etc..And if that wasn t bad enough having to cope with ill informed people like Brook...But this is what the GVT has orchestrated,,,the hatred,against unwell people...fight them,,appeal.....don t let them get away with lying about you,... pamela8
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1:20am Mon 27 May 13

RoisinR says...

Good LUCK George, my heart and thoughts are with you and recognise your courage even though its the heartless Tories that have taken away your money that u are entitled to and have tried to strip u of your dignity but failed.
meanwhile bromley tories are doing the same to children and families in bromley by charging bedroom tax and council tax to those who have noThing whilst they take home on average £20,000 year in allowances and benniies including pension, child care , pcs, travel , stamps etc just to attend a few meetings. with 60 cllrs(they promised to reduce to 40 to save money but reneged on this of course) thats costing us ALL £1.2 m a year.
in 2002 the cllr allowance was £2k.
Look whose eating the poor ,sick and disabled.
its As plain as the Nose on your face.
Good LUCK George, my heart and thoughts are with you and recognise your courage even though its the heartless Tories that have taken away your money that u are entitled to and have tried to strip u of your dignity but failed. meanwhile bromley tories are doing the same to children and families in bromley by charging bedroom tax and council tax to those who have noThing whilst they take home on average £20,000 year in allowances and benniies including pension, child care , pcs, travel , stamps etc just to attend a few meetings. with 60 cllrs(they promised to reduce to 40 to save money but reneged on this of course) thats costing us ALL £1.2 m a year. in 2002 the cllr allowance was £2k. Look whose eating the poor ,sick and disabled. its As plain as the Nose on your face. RoisinR
  • Score: 1

10:30am Mon 27 May 13

nearly right all the time says...

try working, might be just the tonic!
try working, might be just the tonic! nearly right all the time
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1:18pm Mon 27 May 13

pamela8 says...

nearly right all the time...
Try usung your Brain..might be just the tonic.... Cannot believe the shallow behaviour of some people......
nearly right all the time... Try usung your Brain..might be just the tonic.... Cannot believe the shallow behaviour of some people...... pamela8
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5:17pm Mon 27 May 13

swanleycase says...

i really really really really really really really want to work, how does a mentally ill person get a job and pay rent, tax, bills ,food,. only job i was offered was two days a week. manager of my charity shop said her full time salary would not be anywhere near enough. she is stressed from job so how could i manage it. how would i offered it?. ps before my illness i was computer manager paying 40% tax. no help now after all that tax.
i really really really really really really really want to work, how does a mentally ill person get a job and pay rent, tax, bills ,food,. only job i was offered was two days a week. manager of my charity shop said her full time salary would not be anywhere near enough. she is stressed from job so how could i manage it. how would i offered it?. ps before my illness i was computer manager paying 40% tax. no help now after all that tax. swanleycase
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Mon 27 May 13

nearly right all the time says...

Good, if you really want something make that "thing your goal"

If you paid 40% tax then you earnt well,
and should have put some aside for a rainy day.

I get up 6 days a week @ 05.10am to go to work, i dont moan, i pay my tax.
i have 4 weeks holiday a year, my wife works. we work hard!

But all you scroungers want something for nothing!

Pull your self together and GET TO WORK

Ordinary people are fed up with the
workshy slackers like you!
Good, if you really want something make that "thing your goal" If you paid 40% tax then you earnt well, and should have put some aside for a rainy day. I get up 6 days a week @ 05.10am to go to work, i dont moan, i pay my tax. i have 4 weeks holiday a year, my wife works. we work hard! But all you scroungers want something for nothing! Pull your self together and GET TO WORK Ordinary people are fed up with the workshy slackers like you! nearly right all the time
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11:26pm Mon 27 May 13

pamela8 says...

nearly right all the time...you are actually enabling the Government to continue with their Agenda to erase /kill/murder people...can you not see that? The word 'scrounger' ,,imagine being called that if you have really tried hard to get a job...Do you even know how many suicides there have been recently....people like you disgust me.....when the truth comes out about whats happening to the disabled and ill.. some of you will be shocked..some of you will break down and sob....but it,ll be to late then...and the likes that enable the government to cause these horrific deeds will have to then try and live with themselves....well good luck with that one then....Because you sure as hell will need it.....
nearly right all the time...you are actually enabling the Government to continue with their Agenda to erase /kill/murder people...can you not see that? The word 'scrounger' ,,imagine being called that if you have really tried hard to get a job...Do you even know how many suicides there have been recently....people like you disgust me.....when the truth comes out about whats happening to the disabled and ill..[ lets not forget children are included in this extermination as well] some of you will be shocked..some of you will break down and sob....but it,ll be to late then...and the likes that enable the government to cause these horrific deeds will have to then try and live with themselves....well good luck with that one then....Because you sure as hell will need it..... pamela8
  • Score: 0

11:29pm Mon 27 May 13

pamela8 says...

Lets not forget that some of those disabled and ill being persecuted by this evil government are children...
Lets not forget that some of those disabled and ill being persecuted by this evil government are children... pamela8
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11:05am Tue 28 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

What a load of BS. Grow a set and get your lazy arse to work.

What are you a man or a mouse ?
What a load of BS. Grow a set and get your lazy arse to work. What are you a man or a mouse ? Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 1

12:11pm Tue 28 May 13

banjo8 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
What a load of BS. Grow a set and get your lazy arse to work. What are you a man or a mouse ?
Quite right. He needs to pull himself together and do something useful with his time.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: What a load of BS. Grow a set and get your lazy arse to work. What are you a man or a mouse ?[/p][/quote]Quite right. He needs to pull himself together and do something useful with his time. banjo8
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Tue 28 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

"Capstone Road, Downham"

Banjo8 he's just another council tenant p0nce. Leeching off us honest tax payers.
"Capstone Road, Downham" Banjo8 he's just another council tenant p0nce. Leeching off us honest tax payers. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 1

7:16pm Tue 28 May 13

RoisinR says...

http://soundcloud.co
m/george-rolph-inter
view/sunday26
http://soundcloud.co m/george-rolph-inter view/sunday26 RoisinR
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7:38pm Tue 28 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Has George Rolph got an Equity card ? Well he sounds like an out of work actor to me.

Welcome to the real world George.
Has George Rolph got an Equity card ? Well he sounds like an out of work actor to me. Welcome to the real world George. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 1

10:25pm Tue 28 May 13

RoisinR says...

(Shared off 4UP) OK ....George Rolph (our brave hunger striker) is on BBC Breakfast Radio At approx 7.30 am tomorrow...and a film crew are going to his house later in the day... This is a terriffic breakthrough as the BBC don't usually cover these stories...Let's show him our support and thanks as he stands for ALL of the Atos victims....
Thank you so much George...so proud of you (Admin S)
(Shared off 4UP) OK ....George Rolph (our brave hunger striker) is on BBC Breakfast Radio At approx 7.30 am tomorrow...and a film crew are going to his house later in the day... This is a terriffic breakthrough as the BBC don't usually cover these stories...Let's show him our support and thanks as he stands for ALL of the Atos victims.... Thank you so much George...so proud of you (Admin S) RoisinR
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10:39pm Tue 28 May 13

mumma66 says...

proud for what ? he is not a victim ! yes atos does get it wrong sometimes ! but in this case he is taking you all in ! his neighbour a few doors up is a well known drug addict who is at a similar age as him who also has never worked told them he was going to kill himself if he was made to work ! It makes me so mad I have worked since I was 13 years old even going to work when I was ill as I could not afford to take time of I pay my taxes to keep these lazy no goods they make me sick !
proud for what ? he is not a victim ! yes atos does get it wrong sometimes ! but in this case he is taking you all in ! his neighbour a few doors up is a well known drug addict who is at a similar age as him who also has never worked told them he was going to kill himself if he was made to work ! It makes me so mad I have worked since I was 13 years old even going to work when I was ill as I could not afford to take time of I pay my taxes to keep these lazy no goods they make me sick ! mumma66
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11:08pm Tue 28 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

RoisinR as you feel so strongly fer George how about you give him a portion of your benefits.

Now there's an idea.
RoisinR as you feel so strongly fer George how about you give him a portion of your benefits. Now there's an idea. Gypo.Joe
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11:10pm Tue 28 May 13

mumma66 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
RoisinR as you feel so strongly fer George how about you give him a portion of your benefits.

Now there's an idea.
I like your thinking joe
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: RoisinR as you feel so strongly fer George how about you give him a portion of your benefits. Now there's an idea.[/p][/quote]I like your thinking joe mumma66
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11:14pm Tue 28 May 13

gnsp2545 says...

Bless your little cotton socks...... go for it George, you have our support & we'll be listening.
Bless your little cotton socks...... go for it George, you have our support & we'll be listening. gnsp2545
  • Score: 0

12:50am Wed 29 May 13

evarock says...

Wow, there are some selfish, heartless scum on this page.

Regardless of George's personal circumstances, there is a man here who is likely to die in order to highlight the atrocities carried out by ATOS.

And don't give me all that bull about scroungers - fraud is a very small percentage of total benefits. Most of the welfare bill goes on pensions.

As for the person who said someone in 40% tax bracket should have put something aside for a rainy day... I was paying 40% tax for years, until my disability, and what if your 'rainy day' turns into 'rainy 5.5 years and counting'? Not many people have enough squirrelled to keep themselves indefinitely.

Idiots the lot of you, for falling for stupid propaganda. And selfish idiots at that.
Wow, there are some selfish, heartless scum on this page. Regardless of George's personal circumstances, there is a man here who is likely to die in order to highlight the atrocities carried out by ATOS. And don't give me all that bull about scroungers - fraud is a very small percentage of total benefits. Most of the welfare bill goes on pensions. As for the person who said someone in 40% tax bracket should have put something aside for a rainy day... I was paying 40% tax for years, until my disability, and what if your 'rainy day' turns into 'rainy 5.5 years and counting'? Not many people have enough squirrelled to keep themselves indefinitely. Idiots the lot of you, for falling for stupid propaganda. And selfish idiots at that. evarock
  • Score: 0

8:28am Wed 29 May 13

pamela8 says...

mamma,whatever...he does not drink alcohol and the woman you see him with is an advocate....
mamma,whatever...he does not drink alcohol and the woman you see him with is an advocate.... pamela8
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9:55am Wed 29 May 13

gnsp2545 says...

There are two things I could say to all this nastiness going on, on this page.

Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!
and
Let Him Who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone

nuff said I think.
There are two things I could say to all this nastiness going on, on this page. Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged! and Let Him Who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone nuff said I think. gnsp2545
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9:58am Wed 29 May 13

mumma66 says...

gnsp2545 wrote:
There are two things I could say to all this nastiness going on, on this page.

Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!
and
Let Him Who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone

nuff said I think.
lying and stealing is a sin too !
[quote][p][bold]gnsp2545[/bold] wrote: There are two things I could say to all this nastiness going on, on this page. Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged! and Let Him Who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone nuff said I think.[/p][/quote]lying and stealing is a sin too ! mumma66
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12:44pm Wed 29 May 13

RoisinR says...

http://atosvictimsgr
oup.co.uk/2013/05/25
/atos-think-george-r
olph-should-end-his-
hunger-strike/
http://atosvictimsgr oup.co.uk/2013/05/25 /atos-think-george-r olph-should-end-his- hunger-strike/ RoisinR
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12:58pm Wed 29 May 13

PaulErith says...

To get it into perspective, there are two sides to this. Lots of people that have claimed disability benefits for years are clearly able to work. It's good that these people are exposed and made to work. At the same time, it appears that ATOS also makes mistakes. Some people genuinely deserve disability benefits, and a computer based system won't always get this right. Without knowing all the details, hard to judge on this particular case.
To get it into perspective, there are two sides to this. Lots of people that have claimed disability benefits for years are clearly able to work. It's good that these people are exposed and made to work. At the same time, it appears that ATOS also makes mistakes. Some people genuinely deserve disability benefits, and a computer based system won't always get this right. Without knowing all the details, hard to judge on this particular case. PaulErith
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1:28pm Wed 29 May 13

RoisinR says...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=WY0LI7tuq
lI
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=WY0LI7tuq lI RoisinR
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1:36pm Wed 29 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

"The condition that affects Mr Rolph is the result of years of physical and mental abuse at the hands of a number of women."

I have had this over the years, tell me just how do I sign up for this p0nce up ?

To be honest I just for the life of me understand how these morons live a life of sitting around doing sweet FA all day. Is it any wonder they are depress heads.
"The condition that affects Mr Rolph is the result of years of physical and mental abuse at the hands of a number of women." I have had this over the years, tell me just how do I sign up for this p0nce up ? To be honest I just for the life of me understand how these morons live a life of sitting around doing sweet FA all day. Is it any wonder they are depress heads. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 0

1:55pm Wed 29 May 13

RoisinR says...

http://www.mirror.co
.uk/news/uk-news/lin
da-wootton-double-he
art-lung-1912498
http://www.mirror.co .uk/news/uk-news/lin da-wootton-double-he art-lung-1912498 RoisinR
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4:10pm Wed 29 May 13

RoisinR says...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?feature=pla
yer_embedded&v=_SEpw
FBhqA4
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?feature=pla yer_embedded&v=_SEpw FBhqA4 RoisinR
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5:01pm Wed 29 May 13

mumma66 says...

I wonder if ATOS watched his interview on the bbc news 10 mths ago about how he helps run the mankind charity !
I wonder if ATOS watched his interview on the bbc news 10 mths ago about how he helps run the mankind charity ! mumma66
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Wed 29 May 13

simonwebb70 says...

This case is exactly why ATOS were brought in by the Government. This really is not news NS and this individual should not be getting colum inches.
This case is exactly why ATOS were brought in by the Government. This really is not news NS and this individual should not be getting colum inches. simonwebb70
  • Score: 0

5:21pm Wed 29 May 13

Tip-Top says...

PaulErith wrote:
To get it into perspective, there are two sides to this. Lots of people that have claimed disability benefits for years are clearly able to work. It's good that these people are exposed and made to work. At the same time, it appears that ATOS also makes mistakes. Some people genuinely deserve disability benefits, and a computer based system won't always get this right. Without knowing all the details, hard to judge on this particular case.
I agree with Paul.

As per the article "Atos Healthcare does not set the criteria or make the decisions about whether someone is entitled to benefits". Like most organisations, mistakes are made and it's up to DWP to ensure the process is robust enough to ensure those who actually require benefits, get them.

Not sure how his particular illness about being in the same room as women stops him from "working". Not all jobs require you to be in the same room as people. Perhaps I'm being a tad harsh in this instance, but I'm always sceptical about such circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: To get it into perspective, there are two sides to this. Lots of people that have claimed disability benefits for years are clearly able to work. It's good that these people are exposed and made to work. At the same time, it appears that ATOS also makes mistakes. Some people genuinely deserve disability benefits, and a computer based system won't always get this right. Without knowing all the details, hard to judge on this particular case.[/p][/quote]I agree with Paul. As per the article "Atos Healthcare does not set the criteria or make the decisions about whether someone is entitled to benefits". Like most organisations, mistakes are made and it's up to DWP to ensure the process is robust enough to ensure those who actually require benefits, get them. Not sure how his particular illness about being in the same room as women stops him from "working". Not all jobs require you to be in the same room as people. Perhaps I'm being a tad harsh in this instance, but I'm always sceptical about such circumstances. Tip-Top
  • Score: 0

7:46pm Wed 29 May 13

pamela8 says...

God help all vulnerable people...when they not only have to cope with compromised health but also nasty little no nothings that abuse them..and lie about them...
God help all vulnerable people...when they not only have to cope with compromised health but also nasty little no nothings that abuse them..and lie about them... pamela8
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9:09pm Wed 29 May 13

RoisinR says...

http://www.thisiscro
ydontoday.co.uk/Disa
bled-woman-humiliate
d-health-assessor/st
ory-19078394-detail/
story.html#axzz2UiKo
tBIm
http://www.thisiscro ydontoday.co.uk/Disa bled-woman-humiliate d-health-assessor/st ory-19078394-detail/ story.html#axzz2UiKo tBIm RoisinR
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1:56am Thu 30 May 13

RoisinR says...

sadly it seems that the NS condones abusive and rather homosexual in tone comments from the Tory trolls which speaks volumes for responsible newspapership in these post Leveson days and the NSs political leanings.

A link to tonights news where George Rolph was part of a piece about ATOS and DWP, was only a short piece but definatly a step in the right direction.
Tune into him on BBC Radio London 94.9 Tomorrow morning between 6-8am :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/i/b020s8bc/
sadly it seems that the NS condones abusive and rather homosexual in tone comments from the Tory trolls which speaks volumes for responsible newspapership in these post Leveson days and the NSs political leanings. A link to tonights news where George Rolph was part of a piece about ATOS and DWP, was only a short piece but definatly a step in the right direction. Tune into him on BBC Radio London 94.9 Tomorrow morning between 6-8am :) http://www.bbc.co.uk /i/b020s8bc/ RoisinR
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10:12am Thu 30 May 13

the wall says...

RoisinR wrote:
sadly it seems that the NS condones abusive and rather homosexual in tone comments from the Tory trolls which speaks volumes for responsible newspapership in these post Leveson days and the NSs political leanings.

A link to tonights news where George Rolph was part of a piece about ATOS and DWP, was only a short piece but definatly a step in the right direction.
Tune into him on BBC Radio London 94.9 Tomorrow morning between 6-8am :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk

/i/b020s8bc/
So you want your say but don't want anyone to have their say.

'abusive and rather homosexual in tone comments ' Where? I haven't read any maybe this says more about what you have going on in your head. If you don't like it report it.


Tory trolls- Who is?... Gypo.Joe you're so far off the mark with that. Oh hang on, isn't calling someone a 'tory troll' abusive?

responsible newspapership - It's a local free newspaper. Not a Pulitzer Prize paper. Get a grip!


Leveson - Don't make me laugh! The biggest white wash in the history of human life on this planet. I don't know the NS were bugging and hacking into phones.

The delusion is strong in you!
[quote][p][bold]RoisinR[/bold] wrote: sadly it seems that the NS condones abusive and rather homosexual in tone comments from the Tory trolls which speaks volumes for responsible newspapership in these post Leveson days and the NSs political leanings. A link to tonights news where George Rolph was part of a piece about ATOS and DWP, was only a short piece but definatly a step in the right direction. Tune into him on BBC Radio London 94.9 Tomorrow morning between 6-8am :) http://www.bbc.co.uk /i/b020s8bc/[/p][/quote]So you want your say but don't want anyone to have their say. 'abusive and rather homosexual in tone comments ' Where? I haven't read any maybe this says more about what you have going on in your head. If you don't like it report it. Tory trolls- Who is?... Gypo.Joe you're so far off the mark with that. Oh hang on, isn't calling someone a 'tory troll' abusive? responsible newspapership - It's a local free newspaper. Not a Pulitzer Prize paper. Get a grip! Leveson - Don't make me laugh! The biggest white wash in the history of human life on this planet. I don't know the NS were bugging and hacking into phones. The delusion is strong in you! the wall
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11:48am Thu 30 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

If I'm a tory troll you RoisinR are a socialist/commy troll. ( and an idiot to boot )

Over the years I have or I thought I had heard some very poor excuse from lazy A holes as to why they cant work, I have to tell you Georgey boi is up there with some of the poorest excuses. As far as I'm concerned there are much more worthy people who need assistance than him, and he can stave that's his choice. He needs some kind of job and a structured day instead of p0ncing on society.
If I'm a tory troll you RoisinR are a socialist/commy troll. ( and an idiot to boot ) Over the years I have or I thought I had heard some very poor excuse from lazy A holes as to why they cant work, I have to tell you Georgey boi is up there with some of the poorest excuses. As far as I'm concerned there are much more worthy people who need assistance than him, and he can stave that's his choice. He needs some kind of job and a structured day instead of p0ncing on society. Gypo.Joe
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12:36pm Thu 30 May 13

RoisinR says...

If you missed George Rolph's interview on BBC Radio London then you can catch it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk
/programmes/p018vjby and skip to 2.21.00 :) Keep up the great work George!!
If you missed George Rolph's interview on BBC Radio London then you can catch it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk /programmes/p018vjby and skip to 2.21.00 :) Keep up the great work George!! RoisinR
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1:15pm Thu 30 May 13

RoisinR says...

http://metro.co.uk/2
013/05/30/more-than-
half-a-million-going
-hungry-in-breadline
-britain-3817484
http://metro.co.uk/2 013/05/30/more-than- half-a-million-going -hungry-in-breadline -britain-3817484 RoisinR
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1:53pm Thu 30 May 13

mumma66 says...

of course we are called tory trolls george always has vote labour posters in his front room window ! And why was he interviewed in his bedroom by the bbc when he lives in a parlor type house was he frightened for the public to see what he has in his lounge ? its not like he is bed ridden anyway he has started drinking now how long will he keep this hunger strike up ?
of course we are called tory trolls george always has vote labour posters in his front room window ! And why was he interviewed in his bedroom by the bbc when he lives in a parlor type house was he frightened for the public to see what he has in his lounge ? its not like he is bed ridden anyway he has started drinking now how long will he keep this hunger strike up ? mumma66
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2:49pm Thu 30 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Does this lazy clown live in a house on his own ? If he does he needs moving out into a one bedroom flat or better still a half way house. Why should us tax payers subsidise his lazy life style anymore than we have too.
Does this lazy clown live in a house on his own ? If he does he needs moving out into a one bedroom flat or better still a half way house. Why should us tax payers subsidise his lazy life style anymore than we have too. Gypo.Joe
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2:55pm Thu 30 May 13

Erith chap says...

Nonsense, RoisinR I think you need to climb out of your own backside, there's a chap who comes into my work 3 times a week for three hours, he has the mind of a child and has only one arm, he always has a smile on his face and works hard.

Georgey boy, get a job.
Nonsense, RoisinR I think you need to climb out of your own backside, there's a chap who comes into my work 3 times a week for three hours, he has the mind of a child and has only one arm, he always has a smile on his face and works hard. Georgey boy, get a job. Erith chap
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3:01pm Thu 30 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

RoisinR is your typical left wing socialist freak trying to live in some utopia in her fuddled mind. Of course as long as someone else is paying for it.

No doubt she is on all sorts of benefits.
RoisinR is your typical left wing socialist freak trying to live in some utopia in her fuddled mind. Of course as long as someone else is paying for it. No doubt she is on all sorts of benefits. Gypo.Joe
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3:07pm Thu 30 May 13

The-Manager says...

goldenbroomboy wrote:
Brook wrote:
Get to work and take your mind off your problems, which in the bigger picture are not really problems more like self abuse.
Either you have not read the article or you are just trolling.

If you want to troll, pick on those who deserve it, not those who are harmless.
get real will ya
[quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get to work and take your mind off your problems, which in the bigger picture are not really problems more like self abuse.[/p][/quote]Either you have not read the article or you are just trolling. If you want to troll, pick on those who deserve it, not those who are harmless.[/p][/quote]get real will ya The-Manager
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3:11pm Thu 30 May 13

The-Manager says...

nearly right all the time wrote:
Good, if you really want something make that "thing your goal"

If you paid 40% tax then you earnt well,
and should have put some aside for a rainy day.

I get up 6 days a week @ 05.10am to go to work, i dont moan, i pay my tax.
i have 4 weeks holiday a year, my wife works. we work hard!

But all you scroungers want something for nothing!

Pull your self together and GET TO WORK

Ordinary people are fed up with the
workshy slackers like you!
good point
[quote][p][bold]nearly right all the time[/bold] wrote: Good, if you really want something make that "thing your goal" If you paid 40% tax then you earnt well, and should have put some aside for a rainy day. I get up 6 days a week @ 05.10am to go to work, i dont moan, i pay my tax. i have 4 weeks holiday a year, my wife works. we work hard! But all you scroungers want something for nothing! Pull your self together and GET TO WORK Ordinary people are fed up with the workshy slackers like you![/p][/quote]good point The-Manager
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3:38pm Thu 30 May 13

Tip-Top says...

RoisinR wrote:
If you missed George Rolph's interview on BBC Radio London then you can catch it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk /programmes/p018vjby and skip to 2.21.00 :) Keep up the great work George!!
It is alledged that when the BBC turned up, George was in just his pants eating a pork pie.
[quote][p][bold]RoisinR[/bold] wrote: If you missed George Rolph's interview on BBC Radio London then you can catch it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk /programmes/p018vjby and skip to 2.21.00 :) Keep up the great work George!![/p][/quote]It is alledged that when the BBC turned up, George was in just his pants eating a pork pie. Tip-Top
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3:54pm Thu 30 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

"He added: "It is my life. I shall end it in my way while I still have that choice."


He said this with a mouthful of Death by Chocolate.

( paid for by the tax payers of course )
"He added: "It is my life. I shall end it in my way while I still have that choice." He said this with a mouthful of Death by Chocolate. ( paid for by the tax payers of course ) Gypo.Joe
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7:12pm Thu 30 May 13

Michellelovesnews says...

What vile creature's u r. I hope u never get sick or fall on hard times. As your lives must be so perfect! Keyboard warrior's. Absolutely pathetic. George u r an inspiration to us all. Sending lots of love and prayers xx
What vile creature's u r. I hope u never get sick or fall on hard times. As your lives must be so perfect! Keyboard warrior's. Absolutely pathetic. George u r an inspiration to us all. Sending lots of love and prayers xx Michellelovesnews
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8:15pm Thu 30 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

George don't need love and prayers stupid, what he needs is a job and pronto.
George don't need love and prayers stupid, what he needs is a job and pronto. Gypo.Joe
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9:14pm Thu 30 May 13

mumma66 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Does this lazy clown live in a house on his own ? If he does he needs moving out into a one bedroom flat or better still a half way house. Why should us tax payers subsidise his lazy life style anymore than we have too.
yes Joe he does live in a house on his own ! and has been out and about smiling and laughing with everyone today !
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Does this lazy clown live in a house on his own ? If he does he needs moving out into a one bedroom flat or better still a half way house. Why should us tax payers subsidise his lazy life style anymore than we have too.[/p][/quote]yes Joe he does live in a house on his own ! and has been out and about smiling and laughing with everyone today ! mumma66
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9:15pm Thu 30 May 13

RoisinR says...

well said!
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=T9-FgzFa9
GI
well said! http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=T9-FgzFa9 GI RoisinR
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9:18pm Thu 30 May 13

amelia321 says...

pamela8 wrote:
Beck 123 so sorry you,ve had to go through all that ....To be honest if you went in holding your head under your arm they,d still pass you as fit for work...I have known many people with various illnesses like advanced cancer,ms,,mental illness and these unqualified idiots have still passed them as fit...And then they have to try and deal with the Consequences of their actions....while some die,some starve etc..And if that wasn t bad enough having to cope with ill informed people like Brook...But this is what the GVT has orchestrated,,,the hatred,against unwell people...fight them,,appeal.....don

t let them get away with lying about you,...
so right stephen hawkins would past the test cause he can move his eyes wake up ppl
[quote][p][bold]pamela8[/bold] wrote: Beck 123 so sorry you,ve had to go through all that ....To be honest if you went in holding your head under your arm they,d still pass you as fit for work...I have known many people with various illnesses like advanced cancer,ms,,mental illness and these unqualified idiots have still passed them as fit...And then they have to try and deal with the Consequences of their actions....while some die,some starve etc..And if that wasn t bad enough having to cope with ill informed people like Brook...But this is what the GVT has orchestrated,,,the hatred,against unwell people...fight them,,appeal.....don t let them get away with lying about you,...[/p][/quote]so right stephen hawkins would past the test cause he can move his eyes wake up ppl amelia321
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9:23pm Thu 30 May 13

amelia321 says...

Brook wrote:
Get to work and take your mind off your problems, which in the bigger picture are not really problems more like self abuse.
yeah as person who suffered child abuse it never leaves you shame on your comment
[quote][p][bold]Brook[/bold] wrote: Get to work and take your mind off your problems, which in the bigger picture are not really problems more like self abuse.[/p][/quote]yeah as person who suffered child abuse it never leaves you shame on your comment amelia321
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11:13pm Thu 30 May 13

Jay Shay says...

I am not wasting time reading hateful and spiteful comments, I see how they control your thinking, and I must ask the question, what will YOU do all of you haters if you get ill or have an accident at work? Or some traumatic events in your life that have severely affected you and people say things like this about you. Be ashamed.
I support George, he is standing up for justice. He is standing up for me, and many others who may die as the result of this Government. Love to George, not hate. hate is negative. Love to all who are being stressed to the point of suicide. Please all you doubters, read Callums list you will be shocked. 22,000 people dead since Atos the French company started this cruel evil practice.
I am not wasting time reading hateful and spiteful comments, I see how they control your thinking, and I must ask the question, what will YOU do all of you haters if you get ill or have an accident at work? Or some traumatic events in your life that have severely affected you and people say things like this about you. Be ashamed. I support George, he is standing up for justice. He is standing up for me, and many others who may die as the result of this Government. Love to George, not hate. hate is negative. Love to all who are being stressed to the point of suicide. Please all you doubters, read Callums list you will be shocked. 22,000 people dead since Atos the French company started this cruel evil practice. Jay Shay
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11:37pm Thu 30 May 13

kazwoman says...

I cannot believe some of the nasty and vile comments on here!!! Unless you've suffered from PTSD you have no idea of how just horrendous this is,I do and you wouldn't want to go through it. Where's the compassion gone in this country when someone has been through hell suffering from physical and mental abuse from a young age and you just want to rip him to shreds. God help you if you ever get ill or involved in an accident.I support George 100% and god rest the souls of all the people who have died from suicide due to the atos.
I cannot believe some of the nasty and vile comments on here!!! Unless you've suffered from PTSD you have no idea of how just horrendous this is,I do and you wouldn't want to go through it. Where's the compassion gone in this country when someone has been through hell suffering from physical and mental abuse from a young age and you just want to rip him to shreds. God help you if you ever get ill or involved in an accident.I support George 100% and god rest the souls of all the people who have died from suicide due to the atos. kazwoman
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12:14am Fri 31 May 13

Kurt A. says...

I have personal knowledge of Mr G. Rolph. I am in fact quite frustrated with what I have heard in relation to some of the comments being made in this thread.

To those persons saying you are of Christian Belief. I would very much like to know who your Priests are and your Bishops. If you are actually Clergy you should be laitized. I have never heard such insensitive comments. Mr Rolph has a number of Diagnosed Medical Conditions. Among those is PTSD. Any person being so ill mannered using Christianity as their Support. I have little to say other than, it is unfortunately persons such as yourself that have caused the may concerns around the world.
I have personal knowledge of Mr G. Rolph. I am in fact quite frustrated with what I have heard in relation to some of the comments being made in this thread. To those persons saying you are of Christian Belief. I would very much like to know who your Priests are and your Bishops. If you are actually Clergy you should be laitized. I have never heard such insensitive comments. Mr Rolph has a number of Diagnosed Medical Conditions. Among those is PTSD. Any person being so ill mannered using Christianity as their Support. I have little to say other than, it is unfortunately persons such as yourself that have caused the may concerns around the world. Kurt A.
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1:34am Fri 31 May 13

mumma66 says...

I happen to be home this week due to half term ! maybe having to paying my taxes to keep mr rolph has made me bitter !
I happen to be home this week due to half term ! maybe having to paying my taxes to keep mr rolph has made me bitter ! mumma66
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1:54am Fri 31 May 13

kazwoman says...

Being bitter will make you ill dont think you want to be visiting atos!!! Home this week due to half term hmmm so I would say you claim child/tax,w/tax,c/be
nefit,rent benefit and some council tax benefit.and if you say noooo then why are you in a council house property??? Thought they were for the poor. Your taxes pay to keep Mr Rolph cough cough
Being bitter will make you ill dont think you want to be visiting atos!!! Home this week due to half term hmmm so I would say you claim child/tax,w/tax,c/be nefit,rent benefit and some council tax benefit.and if you say noooo then why are you in a council house property??? Thought they were for the poor. Your taxes pay to keep Mr Rolph cough cough kazwoman
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9:10am Fri 31 May 13

amelia321 says...

kazwoman wrote:
I cannot believe some of the nasty and vile comments on here!!! Unless you've suffered from PTSD you have no idea of how just horrendous this is,I do and you wouldn't want to go through it. Where's the compassion gone in this country when someone has been through hell suffering from physical and mental abuse from a young age and you just want to rip him to shreds. God help you if you ever get ill or involved in an accident.I support George 100% and god rest the souls of all the people who have died from suicide due to the atos.
well said kaz some of these comments are real nasty just goes to show what are country has become
[quote][p][bold]kazwoman[/bold] wrote: I cannot believe some of the nasty and vile comments on here!!! Unless you've suffered from PTSD you have no idea of how just horrendous this is,I do and you wouldn't want to go through it. Where's the compassion gone in this country when someone has been through hell suffering from physical and mental abuse from a young age and you just want to rip him to shreds. God help you if you ever get ill or involved in an accident.I support George 100% and god rest the souls of all the people who have died from suicide due to the atos.[/p][/quote]well said kaz some of these comments are real nasty just goes to show what are country has become amelia321
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9:12am Fri 31 May 13

MsChevious says...

I have a huge amount of sympathy for victims of abuse who are impacted by PTSD, but my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind.

Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men.
I have a huge amount of sympathy for victims of abuse who are impacted by PTSD, but my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind. Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men. MsChevious
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9:49am Fri 31 May 13

Simon bald says...

PTSD ? Is he a war hero? I didn't read the whole article. What has brought on his suffering. Poor chap.
PTSD ? Is he a war hero? I didn't read the whole article. What has brought on his suffering. Poor chap. Simon bald
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10:39am Fri 31 May 13

kazwoman says...

Simon bald wrote:
PTSD ? Is he a war hero? I didn't read the whole article. What has brought on his suffering. Poor chap.
PTSD isn't just from wars Simon.Please support George Rolph and many others like him.
[quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: PTSD ? Is he a war hero? I didn't read the whole article. What has brought on his suffering. Poor chap.[/p][/quote]PTSD isn't just from wars Simon.Please support George Rolph and many others like him. kazwoman
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11:36am Fri 31 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

I would like to know just how many of these supporters of George have jobs, not many if any at all I bet.

As the "Wall" said it sounds like George the door mat has now got his dander up and is on the road to recovery.
Come on George you can do it son, welcome back into the real world, now if you can hand out a few copies of The Big Issue tahst ya next step boi. Give it a try you may find standing up on ya own two feet is for you.
I would like to know just how many of these supporters of George have jobs, not many if any at all I bet. As the "Wall" said it sounds like George the door mat has now got his dander up and is on the road to recovery. Come on George you can do it son, welcome back into the real world, now if you can hand out a few copies of The Big Issue tahst ya next step boi. Give it a try you may find standing up on ya own two feet is for you. Gypo.Joe
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11:49am Fri 31 May 13

kazwoman says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
I would like to know just how many of these supporters of George have jobs, not many if any at all I bet.

As the "Wall" said it sounds like George the door mat has now got his dander up and is on the road to recovery.
Come on George you can do it son, welcome back into the real world, now if you can hand out a few copies of The Big Issue tahst ya next step boi. Give it a try you may find standing up on ya own two feet is for you.
and this is exactly what is wrong with society shame on you all.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: I would like to know just how many of these supporters of George have jobs, not many if any at all I bet. As the "Wall" said it sounds like George the door mat has now got his dander up and is on the road to recovery. Come on George you can do it son, welcome back into the real world, now if you can hand out a few copies of The Big Issue tahst ya next step boi. Give it a try you may find standing up on ya own two feet is for you.[/p][/quote]and this is exactly what is wrong with society shame on you all. kazwoman
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11:52am Fri 31 May 13

the wall says...

I think kazwoman and George Rolph should get it on. They both have a common bond that could bring them closer and help each other out......... Oh no hang on that won't work will it.
I think kazwoman and George Rolph should get it on. They both have a common bond that could bring them closer and help each other out......... Oh no hang on that won't work will it. the wall
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11:57am Fri 31 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

kazwoman wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
I would like to know just how many of these supporters of George have jobs, not many if any at all I bet.

As the "Wall" said it sounds like George the door mat has now got his dander up and is on the road to recovery.
Come on George you can do it son, welcome back into the real world, now if you can hand out a few copies of The Big Issue tahst ya next step boi. Give it a try you may find standing up on ya own two feet is for you.
and this is exactly what is wrong with society shame on you all.
You are what's wrong with society, you and all the others with your hand out all the time.

Get off ya arse and earn a living !! We the tax payers owe you NOTHING.

All benefit was supposed to be a hand up, not a life style for ever.
[quote][p][bold]kazwoman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: I would like to know just how many of these supporters of George have jobs, not many if any at all I bet. As the "Wall" said it sounds like George the door mat has now got his dander up and is on the road to recovery. Come on George you can do it son, welcome back into the real world, now if you can hand out a few copies of The Big Issue tahst ya next step boi. Give it a try you may find standing up on ya own two feet is for you.[/p][/quote]and this is exactly what is wrong with society shame on you all.[/p][/quote]You are what's wrong with society, you and all the others with your hand out all the time. Get off ya arse and earn a living !! We the tax payers owe you NOTHING. All benefit was supposed to be a hand up, not a life style for ever. Gypo.Joe
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12:00pm Fri 31 May 13

PaulErith says...

As a general statement, I totally agree about there being too many people that claim benefits when they should be working. I'm one of the first to complain about the benefits culture, but I do think people are being harsh to George. None of us on here know anything about his life or what mental issues he has. Being abusive to him is a bit order out of order.
As a general statement, I totally agree about there being too many people that claim benefits when they should be working. I'm one of the first to complain about the benefits culture, but I do think people are being harsh to George. None of us on here know anything about his life or what mental issues he has. Being abusive to him is a bit order out of order. PaulErith
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12:08pm Fri 31 May 13

kazwoman says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
kazwoman wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
I would like to know just how many of these supporters of George have jobs, not many if any at all I bet.

As the "Wall" said it sounds like George the door mat has now got his dander up and is on the road to recovery.
Come on George you can do it son, welcome back into the real world, now if you can hand out a few copies of The Big Issue tahst ya next step boi. Give it a try you may find standing up on ya own two feet is for you.
and this is exactly what is wrong with society shame on you all.
You are what's wrong with society, you and all the others with your hand out all the time.

Get off ya arse and earn a living !! We the tax payers owe you NOTHING.

All benefit was supposed to be a hand up, not a life style for ever.
Actually I have worked for decades and payed my tax and my four grown up children all work and pay tax.Life style your having a laugh right??? Just because you pay tax doesn't make you a saint!!! Scum people come from all walks of life your personality sucks
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kazwoman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: I would like to know just how many of these supporters of George have jobs, not many if any at all I bet. As the "Wall" said it sounds like George the door mat has now got his dander up and is on the road to recovery. Come on George you can do it son, welcome back into the real world, now if you can hand out a few copies of The Big Issue tahst ya next step boi. Give it a try you may find standing up on ya own two feet is for you.[/p][/quote]and this is exactly what is wrong with society shame on you all.[/p][/quote]You are what's wrong with society, you and all the others with your hand out all the time. Get off ya arse and earn a living !! We the tax payers owe you NOTHING. All benefit was supposed to be a hand up, not a life style for ever.[/p][/quote]Actually I have worked for decades and payed my tax and my four grown up children all work and pay tax.Life style your having a laugh right??? Just because you pay tax doesn't make you a saint!!! Scum people come from all walks of life your personality sucks kazwoman
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12:08pm Fri 31 May 13

Erith chap says...

I don't think anyone's being particulary abusive, apart from kazwoman's ridiculous oubursts of "HATE!" You seem to hate a lot kazzy. Maybe cheer up a bit.
I know that there are a lot of individuals who are much worse off than George who are in work and aren't running off to the local paper for a good old moan.
I don't think anyone's being particulary abusive, apart from kazwoman's ridiculous oubursts of "HATE!" You seem to hate a lot kazzy. Maybe cheer up a bit. I know that there are a lot of individuals who are much worse off than George who are in work and aren't running off to the local paper for a good old moan. Erith chap
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12:13pm Fri 31 May 13

the wall says...

Erith chap wrote:
I don't think anyone's being particulary abusive, apart from kazwoman's ridiculous oubursts of "HATE!" You seem to hate a lot kazzy. Maybe cheer up a bit.
I know that there are a lot of individuals who are much worse off than George who are in work and aren't running off to the local paper for a good old moan.
Agreed. She come across as a right spikeful cactus.
[quote][p][bold]Erith chap[/bold] wrote: I don't think anyone's being particulary abusive, apart from kazwoman's ridiculous oubursts of "HATE!" You seem to hate a lot kazzy. Maybe cheer up a bit. I know that there are a lot of individuals who are much worse off than George who are in work and aren't running off to the local paper for a good old moan.[/p][/quote]Agreed. She come across as a right spikeful cactus. the wall
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12:16pm Fri 31 May 13

kazwoman says...

the wall wrote:
I think kazwoman and George Rolph should get it on. They both have a common bond that could bring them closer and help each other out......... Oh no hang on that won't work will it.
I suffer from PTSD and mental health problems and Fibromalgia and because of what I ve been through have compassion and understanding. I find that remark very distasteful and immature by the way actually pretty sick as you know what George has been through.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: I think kazwoman and George Rolph should get it on. They both have a common bond that could bring them closer and help each other out......... Oh no hang on that won't work will it.[/p][/quote]I suffer from PTSD and mental health problems and Fibromalgia and because of what I ve been through have compassion and understanding. I find that remark very distasteful and immature by the way actually pretty sick as you know what George has been through. kazwoman
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12:31pm Fri 31 May 13

pamela8 says...

Well done the Government, you,ve got to hand it to them...They have succeeded in brain washing the sheep.. The 'Golden ones' the tax payers,.by USING them,flattering them so they turn on the less fortunate and ill, lets not forget this includes children...Well you are all in for a massive shock because very soon the people that earn 8,00 an hour you will be next on the hit list then it will be the 10/12.00 an hour and so on....You think the Government think you,ve special, buttering you up? do they f---! and I do work before someone uses the what has become the job card!! 8 hours a day 6 days a week, and not as a prostitute gypo...before you come out with the usual drivel....I just have a heart, I care about people, I see first hand whats really going on,what this dispicable Government is doing to people...All the dying all the starving kids fainting in schools..Corrupt and beyond evil....why not help out and rise up against this evil, help vulnerable people, help kids....instead of this mass bullying..you are only making fools of yourselves...soon , one way or another it will be YOU!! A short explanation of ptsd....someone might tap on the front door but its like someone is trying to break in as the sounds are magnified.someone might be walking behind you in the street you stop ,you dont want anyone that close behind you because of the fear of sudden attack...
Well done the Government, you,ve got to hand it to them...They have succeeded in brain washing the sheep.. The 'Golden ones' the tax payers,.by USING them,flattering them so they turn on the less fortunate and ill, lets not forget this includes children...Well you are all in for a massive shock because very soon the people that earn 8,00 an hour you will be next on the hit list then it will be the 10/12.00 an hour and so on....You think the Government think you,ve special, buttering you up? do they f---! and I do work before someone uses the what has become the job card!! 8 hours a day 6 days a week, and not as a prostitute gypo...before you come out with the usual drivel....I just have a heart, I care about people, I see first hand whats really going on,what this dispicable Government is doing to people...All the dying all the starving kids fainting in schools..Corrupt and beyond evil....why not help out and rise up against this evil, help vulnerable people, help kids....instead of this mass bullying..you are only making fools of yourselves...soon , one way or another it will be YOU!! A short explanation of ptsd....someone might tap on the front door but its like someone is trying to break in as the sounds are magnified.someone might be walking behind you in the street you stop ,you dont want anyone that close behind you because of the fear of sudden attack... pamela8
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12:41pm Fri 31 May 13

the wall says...

kazwoman wrote:
the wall wrote:
I think kazwoman and George Rolph should get it on. They both have a common bond that could bring them closer and help each other out......... Oh no hang on that won't work will it.
I suffer from PTSD and mental health problems and Fibromalgia and because of what I ve been through have compassion and understanding. I find that remark very distasteful and immature by the way actually pretty sick as you know what George has been through.
Do you think I care?

I know people, friends and family who have/ had mental issues and or been through life style changing accidents.

None of them bleat on like you do.
[quote][p][bold]kazwoman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: I think kazwoman and George Rolph should get it on. They both have a common bond that could bring them closer and help each other out......... Oh no hang on that won't work will it.[/p][/quote]I suffer from PTSD and mental health problems and Fibromalgia and because of what I ve been through have compassion and understanding. I find that remark very distasteful and immature by the way actually pretty sick as you know what George has been through.[/p][/quote]Do you think I care? I know people, friends and family who have/ had mental issues and or been through life style changing accidents. None of them bleat on like you do. the wall
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12:43pm Fri 31 May 13

pamela8 says...

I,m exppecting unintelligent claptrap...fire away....But dont say you wasnt warned..dont get complacent..because one way or another you will be next...so are you all going to carry on being bullying sheep..or are you going to wise up, read between the lines..stop hanging on the false words of this Government...And help the Genuine people in this Country..I dont mean the bad back merchants, I ,m not stupid I know and understand about that...and that needs to be sorted..I,m meaning Genuine people..children with cancer being denied enough nappies from social services...Genuine disabled and ill people ,.mental health..dont mock..it only takes a nervous breakdown sometimes . how do you know that all the bullying and bitterness .hatred isnt going to go back on you and cause a breakdown....
I,m exppecting unintelligent claptrap...fire away....But dont say you wasnt warned..dont get complacent..because one way or another you will be next...so are you all going to carry on being bullying sheep..or are you going to wise up, read between the lines..stop hanging on the false words of this Government...And help the Genuine people in this Country..I dont mean the bad back merchants, I ,m not stupid I know and understand about that...and that needs to be sorted..I,m meaning Genuine people..children with cancer being denied enough nappies from social services...Genuine disabled and ill people ,.mental health..dont mock..it only takes a nervous breakdown sometimes . how do you know that all the bullying and bitterness .hatred isnt going to go back on you and cause a breakdown.... pamela8
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2:04pm Fri 31 May 13

wayne m says...

I cant believe what im reading in these comments. Get a job? In what exactly? Its hard enough trying to get a job as it is, trying to get one when your mentally ill is **** near impossible. Some of you seem to think that he should die lest he claim your hard earned taxes, sorry but that makes you the most hatefilled scum this country has to offer.
I cant believe what im reading in these comments. Get a job? In what exactly? Its hard enough trying to get a job as it is, trying to get one when your mentally ill is **** near impossible. Some of you seem to think that he should die lest he claim your hard earned taxes, sorry but that makes you the most hatefilled scum this country has to offer. wayne m
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2:51pm Fri 31 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

kazwoman wrote:
the wall wrote:
I think kazwoman and George Rolph should get it on. They both have a common bond that could bring them closer and help each other out......... Oh no hang on that won't work will it.
I suffer from PTSD and mental health problems and Fibromalgia and because of what I ve been through have compassion and understanding. I find that remark very distasteful and immature by the way actually pretty sick as you know what George has been through.
"I suffer from PTSD and mental health problems"

Well although I'm not a medical professional I would say kazwoman the mental health issue is pretty obvious even to a layman like me. Keep taking the medication though is my advice. You need it.
[quote][p][bold]kazwoman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: I think kazwoman and George Rolph should get it on. They both have a common bond that could bring them closer and help each other out......... Oh no hang on that won't work will it.[/p][/quote]I suffer from PTSD and mental health problems and Fibromalgia and because of what I ve been through have compassion and understanding. I find that remark very distasteful and immature by the way actually pretty sick as you know what George has been through.[/p][/quote]"I suffer from PTSD and mental health problems" Well although I'm not a medical professional I would say kazwoman the mental health issue is pretty obvious even to a layman like me. Keep taking the medication though is my advice. You need it. Gypo.Joe
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4:15pm Fri 31 May 13

nearly right all the time says...

Mr R says he is suffering PTSD,
correct me if I am wrong but did that not used to be called "shell shock"?

I can understand a soldier suffering fromPSTD. Who diagnosed him first?
seem they may have got it wrong,labelling oneself with PSTD dose a great dis-service to our Armed Forces

Also look at our Paraolympians who
overcame greater difficulties to win the
hearts of the nation

Also where do we get the money to pay these benefits? Shall we take them from the Police budget? NHS, schools
pensioners?

Why not make sure that those that claim
are doing so for the right reasons, not as a alternative to making an effort to contribute to society as a whole
Mr R says he is suffering PTSD, correct me if I am wrong but did that not used to be called "shell shock"? I can understand a soldier suffering fromPSTD. Who diagnosed him first? seem they may have got it wrong,labelling oneself with PSTD dose a great dis-service to our Armed Forces Also look at our Paraolympians who overcame greater difficulties to win the hearts of the nation Also where do we get the money to pay these benefits? Shall we take them from the Police budget? NHS, schools pensioners? Why not make sure that those that claim are doing so for the right reasons, not as a alternative to making an effort to contribute to society as a whole nearly right all the time
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4:37pm Fri 31 May 13

MsChevious says...

Nearly right all the time:

I'm afraid this is one of those times you're wrong. PTSD can be suffered by anyone who has experienced sustained or serious trauma - including abuse as a child or adult. It's actually more common than you would think.

the reason it's now called PTSD rather than 'shell-shock' is because it can come from any trauma; and saying that it does a disservice to veterans is like saying that giving a wheelchair to someone who loses their legs through diabetes is disrespectful to those who had theirs blown off in Iraq.

Nevertheless, as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse. Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered.

Thus (in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery.....
Nearly right all the time: I'm afraid this is one of those times you're wrong. PTSD can be suffered by anyone who has experienced sustained or serious trauma - including abuse as a child or adult. It's actually more common than you would think. the reason it's now called PTSD rather than 'shell-shock' is because it can come from any trauma; and saying that it does a disservice to veterans is like saying that giving a wheelchair to someone who loses their legs through diabetes is disrespectful to those who had theirs blown off in Iraq. Nevertheless, as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse. Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered. Thus (in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery..... MsChevious
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5:07pm Fri 31 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

The only stress George Rolph is suffering from is the shock of the gravy train coming to a shuddering halt.

George get ya grubby hands around a broom, a shovel, or whatever, front and centre now at the double there's a good chap. Stop ya crying now, grow a set and get on wiv it boi.

All aboard the work train is leaving !!
The only stress George Rolph is suffering from is the shock of the gravy train coming to a shuddering halt. George get ya grubby hands around a broom, a shovel, or whatever, front and centre now at the double there's a good chap. Stop ya crying now, grow a set and get on wiv it boi. All aboard the work train is leaving !! Gypo.Joe
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5:38pm Fri 31 May 13

RoisinR says...

the real spongers
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-politics-22
727903?SThisFB
the real spongers http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-22 727903?SThisFB RoisinR
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6:09pm Fri 31 May 13

Simon bald says...

We used to breed real men in this country
We used to breed real men in this country Simon bald
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7:02pm Fri 31 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Simon bald wrote:
We used to breed real men in this country
Yes, Rolph sounds a bit iffy, could be another German/Irish imposter Baldy.

tHaNk yoU
[quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: We used to breed real men in this country[/p][/quote]Yes, Rolph sounds a bit iffy, could be another German/Irish imposter Baldy. tHaNk yoU Gypo.Joe
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7:12pm Fri 31 May 13

freemycatfish says...

MsChevious wrote:
Nearly right all the time:

I'm afraid this is one of those times you're wrong. PTSD can be suffered by anyone who has experienced sustained or serious trauma - including abuse as a child or adult. It's actually more common than you would think.

the reason it's now called PTSD rather than 'shell-shock' is because it can come from any trauma; and saying that it does a disservice to veterans is like saying that giving a wheelchair to someone who loses their legs through diabetes is disrespectful to those who had theirs blown off in Iraq.

Nevertheless, as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse. Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered.

Thus (in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery.....
I am going to ignore The other two nasties on here who may have a shock coming to them soon. The law has changed and is changing regarding Internet abuse and false accusations etc.

I want to take what you said one step at a time, if that is OK.

You Said "...as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse."

OK. you raise two issues here after you prtray yourself as an expert in the field of psychology. A claim I am going to dispute.

You first issue is that I am able to talk about my abuse.

Where did you get that information from? What I do is talk in general and not detailed terms about my abuse. So, for example, I might say, I was punched, kicked, stabbed and hit with a piece of wood etc, but those are just general descriptive terms. However, trying to discuss what ACTUALLY HAPPENED at the time these events took place is a completely different matter and one that i avoid because of the danger of a PTSD episode.

As a superbly qualified person with "two psychology degrees" you should have known about that distinction and if you do not -- and it appears you do not -- It would imply that in fact, you do NOT hold two degrees in psychology at all, or, those degrees are in different fields and you are not qualified tomake the statements that you made at all.

Your second point is that I "expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse."

This is a lie! Plain and simple. I have NEVER nor would I EVER belittle any female victim of abuse. In fact, I have worked with female victims of abuse myself.

Again, this is not a statement/accusation anyone qualified in psychology would ever make about an indivdual either to their face or in a public manner such you have done here. To do so could possibly result in huge and possibly tragic repercussions for the person concerned. No trained pstchologist of psychiatrist would EVER do that.

This again points to your claim towards having two psychology degrees being bogus.

You go on:

"Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered."

While this is, as you have acknowledged, partially true, you do not go on to explain which group in your opinion I fall into; those who avoid or those who confront.
However, you do go on to express in your "expert" opinion based upon the fact that YOU have told us you are superbly qualified to speak on the matter that, "(in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery."

What is interesting about this comment is it appears to be based upon earlier comments you made on this page that I worked for Men's Aid and Mankind.

This is the problem with doing a little Internet research and thinking you have found all the facts.You tend to get things very wrong and make yourself look not only stupid but also a liar.

You said above:

MsChevious says...
9:12am Fri 31 May 13
"I have a huge amount of sympathy for victims of abuse who are impacted by PTSD, but my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind.

Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men."

Again, lets us go through these statements one at a time.

You begin with this one: "my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind."

Clearly you know nothing about either organisation. If you did, you woud be aware that I have NEVER worked with Men's Aid, though I did briefly (A few days) hold the post of Co-Chairman I resigned as soon as it became clear there were too many differences between myself and the aims and policies of Men's Aid.

No professional psychologist with TWO Phd's. would have made that error because they are scientists and would have double checked their information before publishing in public by contacting me first.

Again, you have shown yourself to be either a liar, with your own psychological issues or, at best, an incompetent with the same issues.

You then go on to make an accusation against a regiestered charity and myself that is ALSO untrue and again, this is an error no true professional would ever make. You say: " he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind."

This is an ad hominem attack of the kind feminists are famous for upon any men's groups around the world. It is a libellious statement also. AGAIN something no professional with two degrees would ever make.

The second error you make is to state that I still work with Mankind. In fact, I left them over ten years ago. Once again, it is clear your information is incomplete, your knowledge partial and innaccurate and your intelligence and methodology far below the standard required to be a double degree holder in the field of psychology.

Therefore, in view of the above, I put it to you that a fraud and are misrepresenting yourself as a member of the medical proffession, which is ALSO a criminal offence. What is more, you have done so with malice aforethought and the aim has been to attack, discredit and besmirch the reputation of another.

Your biggest mistake was in saying this:

"Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men."

To begin with I agree with you that Domestic Abuse is horrific. I have studied it for 35 years and experienced it myself. It seems strange then that a double Phd in PSYCHIATRYwould take the time to enact abuse in print, on someone they have never met and clearly know little or nothing about, in a public forum and in the full knowledge that their inflammatory comments would only serve to goad some of the obviously other obviously unstable commentators there, to further abuse of an abuse victim you are targeting. Would you not say so "doctor?"

You go on: "men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars..."

Care to provide us all with an example of this peddling that "all female victims" are liars, by "men's groups?"

You see, what it soundls like to anyone intelligent reading your comments is that you are a misandrist -- a man hater -- trying to portray me and men's groups in general as misogynists -- women haters. You are, once again, totally wrong. I/we do not hate all women I/we only hate those women that lie, mispresent, falsify and attack others for nothing more important than their idelogy or their own internal hate.

Had you any real knowledge of this subject you would have been aware of the Frankfurt School and their doctine of 'the long march' and 'Polymorphous Perversity,' among others. Armed with that knowledge you would have understood -- and agreed or disagreed with -- their doctrines and, either way, understood that the conspiracy has been published openly and discussed freely for over 50 years and everyone with a sound political knowledge is aware of it.

Except it seems, yourself. That could be because this topic is outside of your claimed expertise and you simply have no knowledge or simply because you have not had time yet to read more in order to be more convincng as very smart person with TWO Phd's when it must be becoming clear to anyone reading this by now, you are not smart enough it seems, to have even one.

Your laughable attempts to appear smarter than you are and to fool people into believing you are some kind of expert, when it is clear you are not, reflect ONLY upon you own state of mind and no ones elses. I repectfully suggest you seek medical help yourself as it is clear you do not have a firm grip on reality, "doctor."

I have PTSD but that does not mean I am dumb. You are going to have to do much better than this.

George Rolph
[quote][p][bold]MsChevious[/bold] wrote: Nearly right all the time: I'm afraid this is one of those times you're wrong. PTSD can be suffered by anyone who has experienced sustained or serious trauma - including abuse as a child or adult. It's actually more common than you would think. the reason it's now called PTSD rather than 'shell-shock' is because it can come from any trauma; and saying that it does a disservice to veterans is like saying that giving a wheelchair to someone who loses their legs through diabetes is disrespectful to those who had theirs blown off in Iraq. Nevertheless, as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse. Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered. Thus (in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery.....[/p][/quote]I am going to ignore The other two nasties on here who may have a shock coming to them soon. The law has changed and is changing regarding Internet abuse and false accusations etc. I want to take what you said one step at a time, if that is OK. You Said "...as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse." OK. you raise two issues here after you prtray yourself as an expert in the field of psychology. A claim I am going to dispute. You first issue is that I am able to talk about my abuse. Where did you get that information from? What I do is talk in general and not detailed terms about my abuse. So, for example, I might say, I was punched, kicked, stabbed and hit with a piece of wood etc, but those are just general descriptive terms. However, trying to discuss what ACTUALLY HAPPENED at the time these events took place is a completely different matter and one that i avoid because of the danger of a PTSD episode. As a superbly qualified person with "two psychology degrees" you should have known about that distinction and if you do not -- and it appears you do not -- It would imply that in fact, you do NOT hold two degrees in psychology at all, or, those degrees are in different fields and you are not qualified tomake the statements that you made at all. Your second point is that I "expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse." This is a lie! Plain and simple. I have NEVER nor would I EVER belittle any female victim of abuse. In fact, I have worked with female victims of abuse myself. Again, this is not a statement/accusation anyone qualified in psychology would ever make about an indivdual either to their face or in a public manner such you have done here. To do so could possibly result in huge and possibly tragic repercussions for the person concerned. No trained pstchologist of psychiatrist would EVER do that. This again points to your claim towards having two psychology degrees being bogus. You go on: "Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered." While this is, as you have acknowledged, partially true, you do not go on to explain which group in your opinion I fall into; those who avoid or those who confront. However, you do go on to express in your "expert" opinion based upon the fact that YOU have told us you are superbly qualified to speak on the matter that, "(in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery." What is interesting about this comment is it appears to be based upon earlier comments you made on this page that I worked for Men's Aid and Mankind. This is the problem with doing a little Internet research and thinking you have found all the facts.You tend to get things very wrong and make yourself look not only stupid but also a liar. You said above: MsChevious says... 9:12am Fri 31 May 13 "I have a huge amount of sympathy for victims of abuse who are impacted by PTSD, but my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind. Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men." Again, lets us go through these statements one at a time. You begin with this one: "my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind." Clearly you know nothing about either organisation. If you did, you woud be aware that I have NEVER worked with Men's Aid, though I did briefly (A few days) hold the post of Co-Chairman I resigned as soon as it became clear there were too many differences between myself and the aims and policies of Men's Aid. No professional psychologist with TWO Phd's. would have made that error because they are scientists and would have double checked their information before publishing in public by contacting me first. Again, you have shown yourself to be either a liar, with your own psychological issues or, at best, an incompetent with the same issues. You then go on to make an accusation against a regiestered charity and myself that is ALSO untrue and again, this is an error no true professional would ever make. You say: " he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind." This is an ad hominem attack of the kind feminists are famous for upon any men's groups around the world. It is a libellious statement also. AGAIN something no professional with two degrees would ever make. The second error you make is to state that I still work with Mankind. In fact, I left them over ten years ago. Once again, it is clear your information is incomplete, your knowledge partial and innaccurate and your intelligence and methodology far below the standard required to be a double degree holder in the field of psychology. Therefore, in view of the above, I put it to you that a fraud and are misrepresenting yourself as a member of the medical proffession, which is ALSO a criminal offence. What is more, you have done so with malice aforethought and the aim has been to attack, discredit and besmirch the reputation of another. Your biggest mistake was in saying this: "Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men." To begin with I agree with you that Domestic Abuse is horrific. I have studied it for 35 years and experienced it myself. It seems strange then that a double Phd in PSYCHIATRYwould take the time to enact abuse in print, on someone they have never met and clearly know little or nothing about, in a public forum and in the full knowledge that their inflammatory comments would only serve to goad some of the obviously other obviously unstable commentators there, to further abuse of an abuse victim you are targeting. Would you not say so "doctor?" You go on: "men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars..." Care to provide us all with an example of this peddling that "all female victims" are liars, by "men's groups?" You see, what it soundls like to anyone intelligent reading your comments is that you are a misandrist -- a man hater -- trying to portray me and men's groups in general as misogynists -- women haters. You are, once again, totally wrong. I/we do not hate all women I/we only hate those women that lie, mispresent, falsify and attack others for nothing more important than their idelogy or their own internal hate. Had you any real knowledge of this subject you would have been aware of the Frankfurt School and their doctine of 'the long march' and 'Polymorphous Perversity,' among others. Armed with that knowledge you would have understood -- and agreed or disagreed with -- their doctrines and, either way, understood that the conspiracy has been published openly and discussed freely for over 50 years and everyone with a sound political knowledge is aware of it. Except it seems, yourself. That could be because this topic is outside of your claimed expertise and you simply have no knowledge or simply because you have not had time yet to read more in order to be more convincng as very smart person with TWO Phd's when it must be becoming clear to anyone reading this by now, you are not smart enough it seems, to have even one. Your laughable attempts to appear smarter than you are and to fool people into believing you are some kind of expert, when it is clear you are not, reflect ONLY upon you own state of mind and no ones elses. I repectfully suggest you seek medical help yourself as it is clear you do not have a firm grip on reality, "doctor." I have PTSD but that does not mean I am dumb. You are going to have to do much better than this. George Rolph freemycatfish
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7:44pm Fri 31 May 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Yawnnnnnnnnnnn

A drum roll if you please maestro.

We now await the arrival of the internet police. ( I wont be holding my breath.)
Yawnnnnnnnnnnn A drum roll if you please maestro. We now await the arrival of the internet police. ( I wont be holding my breath.) Gypo.Joe
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7:44pm Fri 31 May 13

mumma66 says...

so that was not you on the bbc news 10 mts ago
so that was not you on the bbc news 10 mts ago mumma66
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10:54pm Fri 31 May 13

pamela8 says...

Totally Excellent George , you,ve blown them all out of the water...Even Gypo makes a feeble attempt to make a come back...No chance...We need more people like you in this world George....There are far to many Jack the Peanuts that think they know it all when in fact they know sod all...Think on what i,ve just said please George we need more people like you in the world.....
Totally Excellent George , you,ve blown them all out of the water...Even Gypo makes a feeble attempt to make a come back...No chance...We need more people like you in this world George....There are far to many Jack the Peanuts that think they know it all when in fact they know sod all...Think on what i,ve just said please George we need more people like you in the world..... pamela8
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6:31am Sat 1 Jun 13

nearly right all the time says...

If Mr R is carrying out Charity work isn't that just a short step to paid employment?

And if Mr R continues to collect benefit
just exactly where dose the money come from?, considering the country overspent last year to the tune of£120bn

shall we take it from schools, police ,NHS, Armed Forces, Pensions
increase the Tax burden on Hard pressed working families?

The panel that decided Mr R was fit for work did it have medically qualified members? as I am confused as to its make up
If Mr R is carrying out Charity work isn't that just a short step to paid employment? And if Mr R continues to collect benefit just exactly where dose the money come from?, considering the country overspent last year to the tune of£120bn shall we take it from schools, police ,NHS, Armed Forces, Pensions increase the Tax burden on Hard pressed working families? The panel that decided Mr R was fit for work did it have medically qualified members? as I am confused as to its make up nearly right all the time
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10:31am Sat 1 Jun 13

amelia321 says...

freemycatfish wrote:
MsChevious wrote:
Nearly right all the time:

I'm afraid this is one of those times you're wrong. PTSD can be suffered by anyone who has experienced sustained or serious trauma - including abuse as a child or adult. It's actually more common than you would think.

the reason it's now called PTSD rather than 'shell-shock' is because it can come from any trauma; and saying that it does a disservice to veterans is like saying that giving a wheelchair to someone who loses their legs through diabetes is disrespectful to those who had theirs blown off in Iraq.

Nevertheless, as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse. Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered.

Thus (in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery.....
I am going to ignore The other two nasties on here who may have a shock coming to them soon. The law has changed and is changing regarding Internet abuse and false accusations etc.

I want to take what you said one step at a time, if that is OK.

You Said "...as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse."

OK. you raise two issues here after you prtray yourself as an expert in the field of psychology. A claim I am going to dispute.

You first issue is that I am able to talk about my abuse.

Where did you get that information from? What I do is talk in general and not detailed terms about my abuse. So, for example, I might say, I was punched, kicked, stabbed and hit with a piece of wood etc, but those are just general descriptive terms. However, trying to discuss what ACTUALLY HAPPENED at the time these events took place is a completely different matter and one that i avoid because of the danger of a PTSD episode.

As a superbly qualified person with "two psychology degrees" you should have known about that distinction and if you do not -- and it appears you do not -- It would imply that in fact, you do NOT hold two degrees in psychology at all, or, those degrees are in different fields and you are not qualified tomake the statements that you made at all.

Your second point is that I "expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse."

This is a lie! Plain and simple. I have NEVER nor would I EVER belittle any female victim of abuse. In fact, I have worked with female victims of abuse myself.

Again, this is not a statement/accusation anyone qualified in psychology would ever make about an indivdual either to their face or in a public manner such you have done here. To do so could possibly result in huge and possibly tragic repercussions for the person concerned. No trained pstchologist of psychiatrist would EVER do that.

This again points to your claim towards having two psychology degrees being bogus.

You go on:

"Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered."

While this is, as you have acknowledged, partially true, you do not go on to explain which group in your opinion I fall into; those who avoid or those who confront.
However, you do go on to express in your "expert" opinion based upon the fact that YOU have told us you are superbly qualified to speak on the matter that, "(in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery."

What is interesting about this comment is it appears to be based upon earlier comments you made on this page that I worked for Men's Aid and Mankind.

This is the problem with doing a little Internet research and thinking you have found all the facts.You tend to get things very wrong and make yourself look not only stupid but also a liar.

You said above:

MsChevious says...
9:12am Fri 31 May 13
"I have a huge amount of sympathy for victims of abuse who are impacted by PTSD, but my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind.

Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men."

Again, lets us go through these statements one at a time.

You begin with this one: "my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind."

Clearly you know nothing about either organisation. If you did, you woud be aware that I have NEVER worked with Men's Aid, though I did briefly (A few days) hold the post of Co-Chairman I resigned as soon as it became clear there were too many differences between myself and the aims and policies of Men's Aid.

No professional psychologist with TWO Phd's. would have made that error because they are scientists and would have double checked their information before publishing in public by contacting me first.

Again, you have shown yourself to be either a liar, with your own psychological issues or, at best, an incompetent with the same issues.

You then go on to make an accusation against a regiestered charity and myself that is ALSO untrue and again, this is an error no true professional would ever make. You say: " he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind."

This is an ad hominem attack of the kind feminists are famous for upon any men's groups around the world. It is a libellious statement also. AGAIN something no professional with two degrees would ever make.

The second error you make is to state that I still work with Mankind. In fact, I left them over ten years ago. Once again, it is clear your information is incomplete, your knowledge partial and innaccurate and your intelligence and methodology far below the standard required to be a double degree holder in the field of psychology.

Therefore, in view of the above, I put it to you that a fraud and are misrepresenting yourself as a member of the medical proffession, which is ALSO a criminal offence. What is more, you have done so with malice aforethought and the aim has been to attack, discredit and besmirch the reputation of another.

Your biggest mistake was in saying this:

"Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men."

To begin with I agree with you that Domestic Abuse is horrific. I have studied it for 35 years and experienced it myself. It seems strange then that a double Phd in PSYCHIATRYwould take the time to enact abuse in print, on someone they have never met and clearly know little or nothing about, in a public forum and in the full knowledge that their inflammatory comments would only serve to goad some of the obviously other obviously unstable commentators there, to further abuse of an abuse victim you are targeting. Would you not say so "doctor?"

You go on: "men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars..."

Care to provide us all with an example of this peddling that "all female victims" are liars, by "men's groups?"

You see, what it soundls like to anyone intelligent reading your comments is that you are a misandrist -- a man hater -- trying to portray me and men's groups in general as misogynists -- women haters. You are, once again, totally wrong. I/we do not hate all women I/we only hate those women that lie, mispresent, falsify and attack others for nothing more important than their idelogy or their own internal hate.

Had you any real knowledge of this subject you would have been aware of the Frankfurt School and their doctine of 'the long march' and 'Polymorphous Perversity,' among others. Armed with that knowledge you would have understood -- and agreed or disagreed with -- their doctrines and, either way, understood that the conspiracy has been published openly and discussed freely for over 50 years and everyone with a sound political knowledge is aware of it.

Except it seems, yourself. That could be because this topic is outside of your claimed expertise and you simply have no knowledge or simply because you have not had time yet to read more in order to be more convincng as very smart person with TWO Phd's when it must be becoming clear to anyone reading this by now, you are not smart enough it seems, to have even one.

Your laughable attempts to appear smarter than you are and to fool people into believing you are some kind of expert, when it is clear you are not, reflect ONLY upon you own state of mind and no ones elses. I repectfully suggest you seek medical help yourself as it is clear you do not have a firm grip on reality, "doctor."

I have PTSD but that does not mean I am dumb. You are going to have to do much better than this.

George Rolph
good luck george dont listen to the trolls i gladly pay my taxes for sick and disabled only people who are not educated comment like some on here.
[quote][p][bold]freemycatfish[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MsChevious[/bold] wrote: Nearly right all the time: I'm afraid this is one of those times you're wrong. PTSD can be suffered by anyone who has experienced sustained or serious trauma - including abuse as a child or adult. It's actually more common than you would think. the reason it's now called PTSD rather than 'shell-shock' is because it can come from any trauma; and saying that it does a disservice to veterans is like saying that giving a wheelchair to someone who loses their legs through diabetes is disrespectful to those who had theirs blown off in Iraq. Nevertheless, as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse. Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered. Thus (in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery.....[/p][/quote]I am going to ignore The other two nasties on here who may have a shock coming to them soon. The law has changed and is changing regarding Internet abuse and false accusations etc. I want to take what you said one step at a time, if that is OK. You Said "...as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse." OK. you raise two issues here after you prtray yourself as an expert in the field of psychology. A claim I am going to dispute. You first issue is that I am able to talk about my abuse. Where did you get that information from? What I do is talk in general and not detailed terms about my abuse. So, for example, I might say, I was punched, kicked, stabbed and hit with a piece of wood etc, but those are just general descriptive terms. However, trying to discuss what ACTUALLY HAPPENED at the time these events took place is a completely different matter and one that i avoid because of the danger of a PTSD episode. As a superbly qualified person with "two psychology degrees" you should have known about that distinction and if you do not -- and it appears you do not -- It would imply that in fact, you do NOT hold two degrees in psychology at all, or, those degrees are in different fields and you are not qualified tomake the statements that you made at all. Your second point is that I "expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse." This is a lie! Plain and simple. I have NEVER nor would I EVER belittle any female victim of abuse. In fact, I have worked with female victims of abuse myself. Again, this is not a statement/accusation anyone qualified in psychology would ever make about an indivdual either to their face or in a public manner such you have done here. To do so could possibly result in huge and possibly tragic repercussions for the person concerned. No trained pstchologist of psychiatrist would EVER do that. This again points to your claim towards having two psychology degrees being bogus. You go on: "Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered." While this is, as you have acknowledged, partially true, you do not go on to explain which group in your opinion I fall into; those who avoid or those who confront. However, you do go on to express in your "expert" opinion based upon the fact that YOU have told us you are superbly qualified to speak on the matter that, "(in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery." What is interesting about this comment is it appears to be based upon earlier comments you made on this page that I worked for Men's Aid and Mankind. This is the problem with doing a little Internet research and thinking you have found all the facts.You tend to get things very wrong and make yourself look not only stupid but also a liar. You said above: MsChevious says... 9:12am Fri 31 May 13 "I have a huge amount of sympathy for victims of abuse who are impacted by PTSD, but my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind. Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men." Again, lets us go through these statements one at a time. You begin with this one: "my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind." Clearly you know nothing about either organisation. If you did, you woud be aware that I have NEVER worked with Men's Aid, though I did briefly (A few days) hold the post of Co-Chairman I resigned as soon as it became clear there were too many differences between myself and the aims and policies of Men's Aid. No professional psychologist with TWO Phd's. would have made that error because they are scientists and would have double checked their information before publishing in public by contacting me first. Again, you have shown yourself to be either a liar, with your own psychological issues or, at best, an incompetent with the same issues. You then go on to make an accusation against a regiestered charity and myself that is ALSO untrue and again, this is an error no true professional would ever make. You say: " he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind." This is an ad hominem attack of the kind feminists are famous for upon any men's groups around the world. It is a libellious statement also. AGAIN something no professional with two degrees would ever make. The second error you make is to state that I still work with Mankind. In fact, I left them over ten years ago. Once again, it is clear your information is incomplete, your knowledge partial and innaccurate and your intelligence and methodology far below the standard required to be a double degree holder in the field of psychology. Therefore, in view of the above, I put it to you that a fraud and are misrepresenting yourself as a member of the medical proffession, which is ALSO a criminal offence. What is more, you have done so with malice aforethought and the aim has been to attack, discredit and besmirch the reputation of another. Your biggest mistake was in saying this: "Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men." To begin with I agree with you that Domestic Abuse is horrific. I have studied it for 35 years and experienced it myself. It seems strange then that a double Phd in PSYCHIATRYwould take the time to enact abuse in print, on someone they have never met and clearly know little or nothing about, in a public forum and in the full knowledge that their inflammatory comments would only serve to goad some of the obviously other obviously unstable commentators there, to further abuse of an abuse victim you are targeting. Would you not say so "doctor?" You go on: "men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars..." Care to provide us all with an example of this peddling that "all female victims" are liars, by "men's groups?" You see, what it soundls like to anyone intelligent reading your comments is that you are a misandrist -- a man hater -- trying to portray me and men's groups in general as misogynists -- women haters. You are, once again, totally wrong. I/we do not hate all women I/we only hate those women that lie, mispresent, falsify and attack others for nothing more important than their idelogy or their own internal hate. Had you any real knowledge of this subject you would have been aware of the Frankfurt School and their doctine of 'the long march' and 'Polymorphous Perversity,' among others. Armed with that knowledge you would have understood -- and agreed or disagreed with -- their doctrines and, either way, understood that the conspiracy has been published openly and discussed freely for over 50 years and everyone with a sound political knowledge is aware of it. Except it seems, yourself. That could be because this topic is outside of your claimed expertise and you simply have no knowledge or simply because you have not had time yet to read more in order to be more convincng as very smart person with TWO Phd's when it must be becoming clear to anyone reading this by now, you are not smart enough it seems, to have even one. Your laughable attempts to appear smarter than you are and to fool people into believing you are some kind of expert, when it is clear you are not, reflect ONLY upon you own state of mind and no ones elses. I repectfully suggest you seek medical help yourself as it is clear you do not have a firm grip on reality, "doctor." I have PTSD but that does not mean I am dumb. You are going to have to do much better than this. George Rolph[/p][/quote]good luck george dont listen to the trolls i gladly pay my taxes for sick and disabled only people who are not educated comment like some on here. amelia321
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11:22am Sat 1 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

amelia321 by educated do you mean someone who knows how to write English, as in capital letters and some punctuation ? Also by your thinking as you commented you are 'not educated'.

Now after reading Georges diatribe he seems well on the road to recovery to me, standing his corner, giving back as good as he gets, I have a feeling he may well have found his testicles again.
Well done George, keep 'it' up son. Now would you like me to send you round a large Whopper and large fries with a big ole sugary soda ?
amelia321 by educated do you mean someone who knows how to write English, as in capital letters and some punctuation ? Also by your thinking as you commented you are 'not educated'. Now after reading Georges diatribe he seems well on the road to recovery to me, standing his corner, giving back as good as he gets, I have a feeling he may well have found his testicles again. Well done George, keep 'it' up son. Now would you like me to send you round a large Whopper and large fries with a big ole sugary soda ? Gypo.Joe
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12:40pm Sat 1 Jun 13

pamela8 says...

Gypo..Next time you go outside, open your mind...you will walk among people with ms...cancer...people that although very ill you wouldnt know it to look at them...Some of the most serious disabilities are the ones you cannot see, like depression,ptsd..whi
ch can be life threatening to the person that has to live with them and in some cases depending on the level of that illness could be dangerous to others...But it also means that just because of all this That an ill person can still write, converse,on their own or with help...Try not to be so judgemental....This Disgusting Government is all about trying to discredit unwell people ,by trivialising their illness and disabilities...Of course George is going to defend himself , he is a genuine case...That has been treated very badly by all government depts...He has literally laid his life on the line to hel;p others who are going through the dreadful mental cruelty merry go round...In the hope that this malicious beyond evil Government will stop murdering people that through no fault of their own,sometimes after working for 40 odd years become ill /disabled,not by choice....it all has to be brought to light..its a living nightmare..and it has to stop...
Gypo..Next time you go outside, open your mind...you will walk among people with ms...cancer...people that although very ill you wouldnt know it to look at them...Some of the most serious disabilities are the ones you cannot see, like depression,ptsd..whi ch can be life threatening to the person that has to live with them and in some cases depending on the level of that illness could be dangerous to others...But it also means that just because of all this That an ill person can still write, converse,on their own or with help...Try not to be so judgemental....This Disgusting Government is all about trying to discredit unwell people ,by trivialising their illness and disabilities...Of course George is going to defend himself , he is a genuine case...That has been treated very badly by all government depts...He has literally laid his life on the line to hel;p others who are going through the dreadful mental cruelty merry go round...In the hope that this malicious beyond evil Government will stop murdering people that through no fault of their own,sometimes after working for 40 odd years become ill /disabled,not by choice....it all has to be brought to light..its a living nightmare..and it has to stop... pamela8
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2:35pm Sat 1 Jun 13

amelia321 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
amelia321 by educated do you mean someone who knows how to write English, as in capital letters and some punctuation ? Also by your thinking as you commented you are 'not educated'.

Now after reading Georges diatribe he seems well on the road to recovery to me, standing his corner, giving back as good as he gets, I have a feeling he may well have found his testicles again.
Well done George, keep 'it' up son. Now would you like me to send you round a large Whopper and large fries with a big ole sugary soda ?
Gypo have a lay down in your caravan, you have been ranting for days now your tongue must be sore lmao
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: amelia321 by educated do you mean someone who knows how to write English, as in capital letters and some punctuation ? Also by your thinking as you commented you are 'not educated'. Now after reading Georges diatribe he seems well on the road to recovery to me, standing his corner, giving back as good as he gets, I have a feeling he may well have found his testicles again. Well done George, keep 'it' up son. Now would you like me to send you round a large Whopper and large fries with a big ole sugary soda ?[/p][/quote]Gypo have a lay down in your caravan, you have been ranting for days now your tongue must be sore lmao amelia321
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2:39pm Sat 1 Jun 13

amelia321 says...

Simon bald wrote:
We used to breed real men in this country
when did it happen simon bald lol
[quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: We used to breed real men in this country[/p][/quote]when did it happen simon bald lol amelia321
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3:24pm Sat 1 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Now George has found his gonads again, all he needs is a nice little cushy 9-5 and he will be back among the living.

Try it George.
Now George has found his gonads again, all he needs is a nice little cushy 9-5 and he will be back among the living. Try it George. Gypo.Joe
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8:28pm Sat 1 Jun 13

pamela8 says...

At least he had some in the first place...
At least he had some in the first place... pamela8
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8:49pm Sat 1 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

pamela8 wrote:
At least he had some in the first place...
"The condition that affects Mr Rolph is the result of years of physical and mental abuse at the hands of a number of women."


When was that Pam, before or after he let some woman/s abuse him. ( or so he says )
Tell us all what services would you cut and where to pay the work shy like George, because that's what he is, he needs a kick up the arse and back to reality. All people like you and endless benefit do is enable people like him to abuse the system.
[quote][p][bold]pamela8[/bold] wrote: At least he had some in the first place...[/p][/quote]"The condition that affects Mr Rolph is the result of years of physical and mental abuse at the hands of a number of women." When was that Pam, before or after he let some woman/s abuse him. ( or so he says ) Tell us all what services would you cut and where to pay the work shy like George, because that's what he is, he needs a kick up the arse and back to reality. All people like you and endless benefit do is enable people like him to abuse the system. Gypo.Joe
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11:07pm Sat 1 Jun 13

amelia321 says...

gypo do you work cause to seem to spend your time on here ranting ****
gypo do you work cause to seem to spend your time on here ranting **** amelia321
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11:20pm Sat 1 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

No I'm on disability as 30 years ago some girl called me a c**t and I keep crying over it, the shock also made me incontinent. I go through a box of tissues every day, one for each end.

I'm waiting for the internet police, I just hope they can help me. ( I hope they bring bog roll with them )
No I'm on disability as 30 years ago some girl called me a c**t and I keep crying over it, the shock also made me incontinent. I go through a box of tissues every day, one for each end. I'm waiting for the internet police, I just hope they can help me. ( I hope they bring bog roll with them ) Gypo.Joe
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3:09pm Sun 2 Jun 13

Simon bald says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
No I'm on disability as 30 years ago some girl called me a c**t and I keep crying over it, the shock also made me incontinent. I go through a box of tissues every day, one for each end.

I'm waiting for the internet police, I just hope they can help me. ( I hope they bring bog roll with them )
oh you poor sod,can we hold a whip round
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: No I'm on disability as 30 years ago some girl called me a c**t and I keep crying over it, the shock also made me incontinent. I go through a box of tissues every day, one for each end. I'm waiting for the internet police, I just hope they can help me. ( I hope they bring bog roll with them )[/p][/quote]oh you poor sod,can we hold a whip round Simon bald
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6:57pm Sun 2 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Simon bald wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
No I'm on disability as 30 years ago some girl called me a c**t and I keep crying over it, the shock also made me incontinent. I go through a box of tissues every day, one for each end.

I'm waiting for the internet police, I just hope they can help me. ( I hope they bring bog roll with them )
oh you poor sod,can we hold a whip round
Thank you Mr Bald, I'm going to put a call into the Shopper in the morning, well that is if I can control my sobbing long enough to get my story out there into Shopperland about my plight. I know it's just attention seeking but the world should know just what I'm going through. I may even jump on this hunger strike band wagon, well it's worth a try like innit, anything other than bend me old back and do a days collar bruv.
[quote][p][bold]Simon bald[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: No I'm on disability as 30 years ago some girl called me a c**t and I keep crying over it, the shock also made me incontinent. I go through a box of tissues every day, one for each end. I'm waiting for the internet police, I just hope they can help me. ( I hope they bring bog roll with them )[/p][/quote]oh you poor sod,can we hold a whip round[/p][/quote]Thank you Mr Bald, I'm going to put a call into the Shopper in the morning, well that is if I can control my sobbing long enough to get my story out there into Shopperland about my plight. I know it's just attention seeking but the world should know just what I'm going through. I may even jump on this hunger strike band wagon, well it's worth a try like innit, anything other than bend me old back and do a days collar bruv. Gypo.Joe
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2:09am Mon 3 Jun 13

pamela8 says...

Gypo, while you continue to be a vile excuse for a human being,,,,I,d like to draw your attention to yet another suicide..its on here today, a man has jumped in front of a train.,,Why do you think that is ? That makes 8 suicides in 4 weeks...Do you think that just maybe it might have something to do with people like you who enable the Government to murder people in this country,,you,ve not as cocky as you make out gypo, in fact you are one of the sheep thats been Brain washed by propaganda ...you,ve quite a weak minded person really..if it really makes you happy gypo carry on,,carry on enabling the gvt to kill people ,..But don,t be surprised when your time comes and you die all alone,,no one there to care about you,,,I know you will most likely come back with some sick and twisted slant on what i,ve said...predictable,,
,
Gypo, while you continue to be a vile excuse for a human being,,,,I,d like to draw your attention to yet another suicide..its on here today, a man has jumped in front of a train.,,Why do you think that is ? That makes 8 suicides in 4 weeks...Do you think that just maybe it might have something to do with people like you who enable the Government to murder people in this country,,you,ve not as cocky as you make out gypo, in fact you are one of the sheep thats been Brain washed by propaganda ...you,ve quite a weak minded person really..if it really makes you happy gypo carry on,,carry on enabling the gvt to kill people ,..But don,t be surprised when your time comes and you die all alone,,no one there to care about you,,,I know you will most likely come back with some sick and twisted slant on what i,ve said...predictable,, , pamela8
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9:53am Mon 3 Jun 13

MsChevious says...

freemycatfish wrote:
MsChevious wrote: Nearly right all the time: I'm afraid this is one of those times you're wrong. PTSD can be suffered by anyone who has experienced sustained or serious trauma - including abuse as a child or adult. It's actually more common than you would think. the reason it's now called PTSD rather than 'shell-shock' is because it can come from any trauma; and saying that it does a disservice to veterans is like saying that giving a wheelchair to someone who loses their legs through diabetes is disrespectful to those who had theirs blown off in Iraq. Nevertheless, as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse. Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered. Thus (in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery.....
I am going to ignore The other two nasties on here who may have a shock coming to them soon. The law has changed and is changing regarding Internet abuse and false accusations etc. I want to take what you said one step at a time, if that is OK. You Said "...as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse." OK. you raise two issues here after you prtray yourself as an expert in the field of psychology. A claim I am going to dispute. You first issue is that I am able to talk about my abuse. Where did you get that information from? What I do is talk in general and not detailed terms about my abuse. So, for example, I might say, I was punched, kicked, stabbed and hit with a piece of wood etc, but those are just general descriptive terms. However, trying to discuss what ACTUALLY HAPPENED at the time these events took place is a completely different matter and one that i avoid because of the danger of a PTSD episode. As a superbly qualified person with "two psychology degrees" you should have known about that distinction and if you do not -- and it appears you do not -- It would imply that in fact, you do NOT hold two degrees in psychology at all, or, those degrees are in different fields and you are not qualified tomake the statements that you made at all. Your second point is that I "expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse." This is a lie! Plain and simple. I have NEVER nor would I EVER belittle any female victim of abuse. In fact, I have worked with female victims of abuse myself. Again, this is not a statement/accusation anyone qualified in psychology would ever make about an indivdual either to their face or in a public manner such you have done here. To do so could possibly result in huge and possibly tragic repercussions for the person concerned. No trained pstchologist of psychiatrist would EVER do that. This again points to your claim towards having two psychology degrees being bogus. You go on: "Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered." While this is, as you have acknowledged, partially true, you do not go on to explain which group in your opinion I fall into; those who avoid or those who confront. However, you do go on to express in your "expert" opinion based upon the fact that YOU have told us you are superbly qualified to speak on the matter that, "(in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery." What is interesting about this comment is it appears to be based upon earlier comments you made on this page that I worked for Men's Aid and Mankind. This is the problem with doing a little Internet research and thinking you have found all the facts.You tend to get things very wrong and make yourself look not only stupid but also a liar. You said above: MsChevious says... 9:12am Fri 31 May 13 "I have a huge amount of sympathy for victims of abuse who are impacted by PTSD, but my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind. Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men." Again, lets us go through these statements one at a time. You begin with this one: "my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind." Clearly you know nothing about either organisation. If you did, you woud be aware that I have NEVER worked with Men's Aid, though I did briefly (A few days) hold the post of Co-Chairman I resigned as soon as it became clear there were too many differences between myself and the aims and policies of Men's Aid. No professional psychologist with TWO Phd's. would have made that error because they are scientists and would have double checked their information before publishing in public by contacting me first. Again, you have shown yourself to be either a liar, with your own psychological issues or, at best, an incompetent with the same issues. You then go on to make an accusation against a regiestered charity and myself that is ALSO untrue and again, this is an error no true professional would ever make. You say: " he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind." This is an ad hominem attack of the kind feminists are famous for upon any men's groups around the world. It is a libellious statement also. AGAIN something no professional with two degrees would ever make. The second error you make is to state that I still work with Mankind. In fact, I left them over ten years ago. Once again, it is clear your information is incomplete, your knowledge partial and innaccurate and your intelligence and methodology far below the standard required to be a double degree holder in the field of psychology. Therefore, in view of the above, I put it to you that a fraud and are misrepresenting yourself as a member of the medical proffession, which is ALSO a criminal offence. What is more, you have done so with malice aforethought and the aim has been to attack, discredit and besmirch the reputation of another. Your biggest mistake was in saying this: "Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men." To begin with I agree with you that Domestic Abuse is horrific. I have studied it for 35 years and experienced it myself. It seems strange then that a double Phd in PSYCHIATRYwould take the time to enact abuse in print, on someone they have never met and clearly know little or nothing about, in a public forum and in the full knowledge that their inflammatory comments would only serve to goad some of the obviously other obviously unstable commentators there, to further abuse of an abuse victim you are targeting. Would you not say so "doctor?" You go on: "men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars..." Care to provide us all with an example of this peddling that "all female victims" are liars, by "men's groups?" You see, what it soundls like to anyone intelligent reading your comments is that you are a misandrist -- a man hater -- trying to portray me and men's groups in general as misogynists -- women haters. You are, once again, totally wrong. I/we do not hate all women I/we only hate those women that lie, mispresent, falsify and attack others for nothing more important than their idelogy or their own internal hate. Had you any real knowledge of this subject you would have been aware of the Frankfurt School and their doctine of 'the long march' and 'Polymorphous Perversity,' among others. Armed with that knowledge you would have understood -- and agreed or disagreed with -- their doctrines and, either way, understood that the conspiracy has been published openly and discussed freely for over 50 years and everyone with a sound political knowledge is aware of it. Except it seems, yourself. That could be because this topic is outside of your claimed expertise and you simply have no knowledge or simply because you have not had time yet to read more in order to be more convincng as very smart person with TWO Phd's when it must be becoming clear to anyone reading this by now, you are not smart enough it seems, to have even one. Your laughable attempts to appear smarter than you are and to fool people into believing you are some kind of expert, when it is clear you are not, reflect ONLY upon you own state of mind and no ones elses. I repectfully suggest you seek medical help yourself as it is clear you do not have a firm grip on reality, "doctor." I have PTSD but that does not mean I am dumb. You are going to have to do much better than this. George Rolph
A few things:

1) There is a difference between psychology and psychiatry. You should know this given your extensive experience of mental health services.

2) I have two psychology degrees, an undergraduate and a masters. I have not claimed to be a psychologist nor a doctor; nor to have a PhD let alone two. The title of Clinical Psychologist is rightly protected, but your accusation that I have broken the law is erroneous – I’ve not claimed to be anything; and your speed at jumping to accuse people of this page of libel and fraud for expressing their opinions speaks rather more of you than of them.

3) Accusing me of having psychological issues in an effort to discredit me is a rather low blow for someone battling to have their own PTSD taken seriously, no?

4) I did not say you still work for Mankind. You have worked with them and I suggest you take better control of your online profile if you wish to distance yourself from their philosophy.

5) Accusing me of misandry? A rather tired cliché don’t you think? I’ve worked with both male and female victims of domestic abuse for over a decade and was actually one of the first members of Women’s Aid to start pushing them to recognise and work with men, admit older boys to refuges and see that domestic abuse is not entirely gendered. As a result the organisation I worked for broke from Women’s Aid and employed two specialist men & boys workers. But thanks for assuming I hate men because I questioned you. Again, speaks more about you than it does about me.

6) Regarding your ability to talk about your abuse etc – given that most of this thread has regarded not your experience of abuse (which I am not doubting for one second) but rather whether you are able to work; do you not think it is a fair point that if you are able to undertake as much voluntary work for charities as you do that you may also be able to take paid employment? By your own assertion you are not dumb, and you clearly are able to expend considerable amounts of intellectual energy in both your posts here and elsewhere on the web. Can you not channel some of this energy into paid work? You say yourself that you have studied domestic abuse for 35 years, why can you not use some of your expertise to earn a living? If your expertise is not biased – as you state you are not – then there is a tidy amount to be made as a conference speaker, trainer, consultant etc. You must appreciate that voluntary work is still ‘work’ and thus claiming you are unable to take employment due to your disability is a rather redundant statement.

7) I concede, that yes – my research on your background and work is based on the internet, but if you feel what is available online about you, and the posts you have made in the past, misrepresents what you do & what you stand for then I suggest you contact the individual websites and ask for them to be removed.


Perhaps if you engaged in more calm debate than hostile assault you would find people more amenable to your cause.
[quote][p][bold]freemycatfish[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MsChevious[/bold] wrote: Nearly right all the time: I'm afraid this is one of those times you're wrong. PTSD can be suffered by anyone who has experienced sustained or serious trauma - including abuse as a child or adult. It's actually more common than you would think. the reason it's now called PTSD rather than 'shell-shock' is because it can come from any trauma; and saying that it does a disservice to veterans is like saying that giving a wheelchair to someone who loses their legs through diabetes is disrespectful to those who had theirs blown off in Iraq. Nevertheless, as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse. Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered. Thus (in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery.....[/p][/quote]I am going to ignore The other two nasties on here who may have a shock coming to them soon. The law has changed and is changing regarding Internet abuse and false accusations etc. I want to take what you said one step at a time, if that is OK. You Said "...as someone with two psychology degrees, I find it strange that a man with such severe PTSD that he can't work finds himself able to talk about his abuse so much, and expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse." OK. you raise two issues here after you prtray yourself as an expert in the field of psychology. A claim I am going to dispute. You first issue is that I am able to talk about my abuse. Where did you get that information from? What I do is talk in general and not detailed terms about my abuse. So, for example, I might say, I was punched, kicked, stabbed and hit with a piece of wood etc, but those are just general descriptive terms. However, trying to discuss what ACTUALLY HAPPENED at the time these events took place is a completely different matter and one that i avoid because of the danger of a PTSD episode. As a superbly qualified person with "two psychology degrees" you should have known about that distinction and if you do not -- and it appears you do not -- It would imply that in fact, you do NOT hold two degrees in psychology at all, or, those degrees are in different fields and you are not qualified tomake the statements that you made at all. Your second point is that I "expend so much energy on belittling female victims of abuse." This is a lie! Plain and simple. I have NEVER nor would I EVER belittle any female victim of abuse. In fact, I have worked with female victims of abuse myself. Again, this is not a statement/accusation anyone qualified in psychology would ever make about an indivdual either to their face or in a public manner such you have done here. To do so could possibly result in huge and possibly tragic repercussions for the person concerned. No trained pstchologist of psychiatrist would EVER do that. This again points to your claim towards having two psychology degrees being bogus. You go on: "Many (not all, I hasten to add) PTSD sufferers avoid any and everything which reminds them of the trauma they've experienced until they have recovered." While this is, as you have acknowledged, partially true, you do not go on to explain which group in your opinion I fall into; those who avoid or those who confront. However, you do go on to express in your "expert" opinion based upon the fact that YOU have told us you are superbly qualified to speak on the matter that, "(in my opinion, and obviously I've not actually assessed Mr Rolph) his extensive work with abuse charities would suggest he's probably well into recovery." What is interesting about this comment is it appears to be based upon earlier comments you made on this page that I worked for Men's Aid and Mankind. This is the problem with doing a little Internet research and thinking you have found all the facts.You tend to get things very wrong and make yourself look not only stupid but also a liar. You said above: MsChevious says... 9:12am Fri 31 May 13 "I have a huge amount of sympathy for victims of abuse who are impacted by PTSD, but my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind. Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men." Again, lets us go through these statements one at a time. You begin with this one: "my sympathy for Mr Rolph is somewhat tested by the fact that he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind." Clearly you know nothing about either organisation. If you did, you woud be aware that I have NEVER worked with Men's Aid, though I did briefly (A few days) hold the post of Co-Chairman I resigned as soon as it became clear there were too many differences between myself and the aims and policies of Men's Aid. No professional psychologist with TWO Phd's. would have made that error because they are scientists and would have double checked their information before publishing in public by contacting me first. Again, you have shown yourself to be either a liar, with your own psychological issues or, at best, an incompetent with the same issues. You then go on to make an accusation against a regiestered charity and myself that is ALSO untrue and again, this is an error no true professional would ever make. You say: " he spends a lot of energy attempting to undermine other victims through his work with Men's Aid and Mankind." This is an ad hominem attack of the kind feminists are famous for upon any men's groups around the world. It is a libellious statement also. AGAIN something no professional with two degrees would ever make. The second error you make is to state that I still work with Mankind. In fact, I left them over ten years ago. Once again, it is clear your information is incomplete, your knowledge partial and innaccurate and your intelligence and methodology far below the standard required to be a double degree holder in the field of psychology. Therefore, in view of the above, I put it to you that a fraud and are misrepresenting yourself as a member of the medical proffession, which is ALSO a criminal offence. What is more, you have done so with malice aforethought and the aim has been to attack, discredit and besmirch the reputation of another. Your biggest mistake was in saying this: "Domestic abuse is horrific, and men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars and there is some giant conspiracy against men." To begin with I agree with you that Domestic Abuse is horrific. I have studied it for 35 years and experienced it myself. It seems strange then that a double Phd in PSYCHIATRYwould take the time to enact abuse in print, on someone they have never met and clearly know little or nothing about, in a public forum and in the full knowledge that their inflammatory comments would only serve to goad some of the obviously other obviously unstable commentators there, to further abuse of an abuse victim you are targeting. Would you not say so "doctor?" You go on: "men's groups would do better to concentrate on garnering support for male victims rather than peddling that all female victims are liars..." Care to provide us all with an example of this peddling that "all female victims" are liars, by "men's groups?" You see, what it soundls like to anyone intelligent reading your comments is that you are a misandrist -- a man hater -- trying to portray me and men's groups in general as misogynists -- women haters. You are, once again, totally wrong. I/we do not hate all women I/we only hate those women that lie, mispresent, falsify and attack others for nothing more important than their idelogy or their own internal hate. Had you any real knowledge of this subject you would have been aware of the Frankfurt School and their doctine of 'the long march' and 'Polymorphous Perversity,' among others. Armed with that knowledge you would have understood -- and agreed or disagreed with -- their doctrines and, either way, understood that the conspiracy has been published openly and discussed freely for over 50 years and everyone with a sound political knowledge is aware of it. Except it seems, yourself. That could be because this topic is outside of your claimed expertise and you simply have no knowledge or simply because you have not had time yet to read more in order to be more convincng as very smart person with TWO Phd's when it must be becoming clear to anyone reading this by now, you are not smart enough it seems, to have even one. Your laughable attempts to appear smarter than you are and to fool people into believing you are some kind of expert, when it is clear you are not, reflect ONLY upon you own state of mind and no ones elses. I repectfully suggest you seek medical help yourself as it is clear you do not have a firm grip on reality, "doctor." I have PTSD but that does not mean I am dumb. You are going to have to do much better than this. George Rolph[/p][/quote]A few things: 1) There is a difference between psychology and psychiatry. You should know this given your extensive experience of mental health services. 2) I have two psychology degrees, an undergraduate and a masters. I have not claimed to be a psychologist nor a doctor; nor to have a PhD let alone two. The title of Clinical Psychologist is rightly protected, but your accusation that I have broken the law is erroneous – I’ve not claimed to be anything; and your speed at jumping to accuse people of this page of libel and fraud for expressing their opinions speaks rather more of you than of them. 3) Accusing me of having psychological issues in an effort to discredit me is a rather low blow for someone battling to have their own PTSD taken seriously, no? 4) I did not say you still work for Mankind. You have worked with them and I suggest you take better control of your online profile if you wish to distance yourself from their philosophy. 5) Accusing me of misandry? A rather tired cliché don’t you think? I’ve worked with both male and female victims of domestic abuse for over a decade and was actually one of the first members of Women’s Aid to start pushing them to recognise and work with men, admit older boys to refuges and see that domestic abuse is not entirely gendered. As a result the organisation I worked for broke from Women’s Aid and employed two specialist men & boys workers. But thanks for assuming I hate men because I questioned you. Again, speaks more about you than it does about me. 6) Regarding your ability to talk about your abuse etc – given that most of this thread has regarded not your experience of abuse (which I am not doubting for one second) but rather whether you are able to work; do you not think it is a fair point that if you are able to undertake as much voluntary work for charities as you do that you may also be able to take paid employment? By your own assertion you are not dumb, and you clearly are able to expend considerable amounts of intellectual energy in both your posts here and elsewhere on the web. Can you not channel some of this energy into paid work? You say yourself that you have studied domestic abuse for 35 years, why can you not use some of your expertise to earn a living? If your expertise is not biased – as you state you are not – then there is a tidy amount to be made as a conference speaker, trainer, consultant etc. You must appreciate that voluntary work is still ‘work’ and thus claiming you are unable to take employment due to your disability is a rather redundant statement. 7) I concede, that yes – my research on your background and work is based on the internet, but if you feel what is available online about you, and the posts you have made in the past, misrepresents what you do & what you stand for then I suggest you contact the individual websites and ask for them to be removed. Perhaps if you engaged in more calm debate than hostile assault you would find people more amenable to your cause. MsChevious
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10:44am Mon 3 Jun 13

Erith chap says...

pamela8 wrote:
Gypo, while you continue to be a vile excuse for a human being,,,,I,d like to draw your attention to yet another suicide..its on here today, a man has jumped in front of a train.,,Why do you think that is ? That makes 8 suicides in 4 weeks...Do you think that just maybe it might have something to do with people like you who enable the Government to murder people in this country,,you,ve not as cocky as you make out gypo, in fact you are one of the sheep thats been Brain washed by propaganda ...you,ve quite a weak minded person really..if it really makes you happy gypo carry on,,carry on enabling the gvt to kill people ,..But don,t be surprised when your time comes and you die all alone,,no one there to care about you,,,I know you will most likely come back with some sick and twisted slant on what i,ve said...predictable,, ,
pamela8, why do you keep going on about the government killing people? I haven't seen Nick Clegg with an UZI, or David Cameron with a sharp looking spatula, no one is forcing Mr Rolph to not eat, he's choosing to not eat, I'm guessing that he's trying to make a point. You implying that our not perfect government is literally killing people is outrageous.

I don't think you can blame every suicide of recent times on our government, think it might be a bit more complicated than that, even for the great pamela8.
[quote][p][bold]pamela8[/bold] wrote: Gypo, while you continue to be a vile excuse for a human being,,,,I,d like to draw your attention to yet another suicide..its on here today, a man has jumped in front of a train.,,Why do you think that is ? That makes 8 suicides in 4 weeks...Do you think that just maybe it might have something to do with people like you who enable the Government to murder people in this country,,you,ve not as cocky as you make out gypo, in fact you are one of the sheep thats been Brain washed by propaganda ...you,ve quite a weak minded person really..if it really makes you happy gypo carry on,,carry on enabling the gvt to kill people ,..But don,t be surprised when your time comes and you die all alone,,no one there to care about you,,,I know you will most likely come back with some sick and twisted slant on what i,ve said...predictable,, ,[/p][/quote]pamela8, why do you keep going on about the government killing people? I haven't seen Nick Clegg with an UZI, or David Cameron with a sharp looking spatula, no one is forcing Mr Rolph to not eat, he's choosing to not eat, I'm guessing that he's trying to make a point. You implying that our not perfect government is literally killing people is outrageous. I don't think you can blame every suicide of recent times on our government, think it might be a bit more complicated than that, even for the great pamela8. Erith chap
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11:10am Mon 3 Jun 13

MsChevious says...

Oh, I also gather that you are now taking fluids (http://crawleybedro
omtax.org.uk/index.p
hp/hunger-striker-co
n-dem-cuts-are-killi
ng-me/an-open-letter
-from-george-rolph-o
n-hunger-strike-agai
nst-atos-and-the-uk-
government/)

I hope you are seeing some impact of your strike, whatever issues I have with particular circumstances I do not think ATOS are making the right decisions.
Oh, I also gather that you are now taking fluids (http://crawleybedro omtax.org.uk/index.p hp/hunger-striker-co n-dem-cuts-are-killi ng-me/an-open-letter -from-george-rolph-o n-hunger-strike-agai nst-atos-and-the-uk- government/) I hope you are seeing some impact of your strike, whatever issues I have with particular circumstances I do not think ATOS are making the right decisions. MsChevious
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11:48am Mon 3 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

pamela8 wrote:
Gypo, while you continue to be a vile excuse for a human being,,,,I,d like to draw your attention to yet another suicide..its on here today, a man has jumped in front of a train.,,Why do you think that is ? That makes 8 suicides in 4 weeks...Do you think that just maybe it might have something to do with people like you who enable the Government to murder people in this country,,you,ve not as cocky as you make out gypo, in fact you are one of the sheep thats been Brain washed by propaganda ...you,ve quite a weak minded person really..if it really makes you happy gypo carry on,,carry on enabling the gvt to kill people ,..But don,t be surprised when your time comes and you die all alone,,no one there to care about you,,,I know you will most likely come back with some sick and twisted slant on what i,ve said...predictable,,

,
Pam stop picking on me. Can you not see that you are ? You are a bully.

Now last night I was in the confessional with Father Tony and I had a epiphany, it's the demon drink that's me problem.

Not another drop shall pass my lips.
[quote][p][bold]pamela8[/bold] wrote: Gypo, while you continue to be a vile excuse for a human being,,,,I,d like to draw your attention to yet another suicide..its on here today, a man has jumped in front of a train.,,Why do you think that is ? That makes 8 suicides in 4 weeks...Do you think that just maybe it might have something to do with people like you who enable the Government to murder people in this country,,you,ve not as cocky as you make out gypo, in fact you are one of the sheep thats been Brain washed by propaganda ...you,ve quite a weak minded person really..if it really makes you happy gypo carry on,,carry on enabling the gvt to kill people ,..But don,t be surprised when your time comes and you die all alone,,no one there to care about you,,,I know you will most likely come back with some sick and twisted slant on what i,ve said...predictable,, ,[/p][/quote]Pam stop picking on me. Can you not see that you are ? You are a bully. Now last night I was in the confessional with Father Tony and I had a epiphany, it's the demon drink that's me problem. Not another drop shall pass my lips. Gypo.Joe
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11:54am Mon 3 Jun 13

gnsp2545 says...

This page is a disgrace!! Such childish comments I've never seen. & I won't be seeing them again!!!
This page is a disgrace!! Such childish comments I've never seen. & I won't be seeing them again!!! gnsp2545
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12:07pm Mon 3 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

gnsp2545 wrote:
This page is a disgrace!! Such childish comments I've never seen. & I won't be seeing them again!!!
Thank you for the kind words and goodbye.
[quote][p][bold]gnsp2545[/bold] wrote: This page is a disgrace!! Such childish comments I've never seen. & I won't be seeing them again!!![/p][/quote]Thank you for the kind words and goodbye. Gypo.Joe
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5:23pm Mon 3 Jun 13

frank says...

there is nothing in a esa50 form for anyone with a mental health problem to fill in,
http://www.direct.go
v.uk/prod_consum_dg/
groups/dg_digitalass
ets/@dg/@en/@money/d
ocuments/digitalasse
t/dg_195544.pdf

quite how moving an empty cardboard box or pressing a button relates to being able to work is beyond me.

atos area bunch of cowboys running a kangaroo court, there are thousands dead because of this witch hunt.just check out google

http://blacktriangle
campaign.org/2013/01
/21/who-will-speak-u
p-for-the-universal-
welfare-state-now/
there is nothing in a esa50 form for anyone with a mental health problem to fill in, http://www.direct.go v.uk/prod_consum_dg/ groups/dg_digitalass ets/@dg/@en/@money/d ocuments/digitalasse t/dg_195544.pdf quite how moving an empty cardboard box or pressing a button relates to being able to work is beyond me. atos area bunch of cowboys running a kangaroo court, there are thousands dead because of this witch hunt.just check out google http://blacktriangle campaign.org/2013/01 /21/who-will-speak-u p-for-the-universal- welfare-state-now/ frank
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7:20pm Mon 3 Jun 13

mumma66 says...

frank wrote:
there is nothing in a esa50 form for anyone with a mental health problem to fill in,
http://www.direct.go

v.uk/prod_consum_dg/

groups/dg_digitalass

ets/@dg/@en/@money/d

ocuments/digitalasse

t/dg_195544.pdf

quite how moving an empty cardboard box or pressing a button relates to being able to work is beyond me.

atos area bunch of cowboys running a kangaroo court, there are thousands dead because of this witch hunt.just check out google

http://blacktriangle

campaign.org/2013/01

/21/who-will-speak-u

p-for-the-universal-

welfare-state-now/
thats funny how I know people who have autism , schizophrenia ,bipolar have been deemed not fit for work using this form !
[quote][p][bold]frank[/bold] wrote: there is nothing in a esa50 form for anyone with a mental health problem to fill in, http://www.direct.go v.uk/prod_consum_dg/ groups/dg_digitalass ets/@dg/@en/@money/d ocuments/digitalasse t/dg_195544.pdf quite how moving an empty cardboard box or pressing a button relates to being able to work is beyond me. atos area bunch of cowboys running a kangaroo court, there are thousands dead because of this witch hunt.just check out google http://blacktriangle campaign.org/2013/01 /21/who-will-speak-u p-for-the-universal- welfare-state-now/[/p][/quote]thats funny how I know people who have autism , schizophrenia ,bipolar have been deemed not fit for work using this form ! mumma66
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9:31pm Mon 3 Jun 13

Mike Honcho says...

"Mentally ill Downham man on hunger strike after his benefits are taken away"

The first two words say it all. This man should be sectioned for his own good and lets have an end to his nonsense.
"Mentally ill Downham man on hunger strike after his benefits are taken away" The first two words say it all. This man should be sectioned for his own good and lets have an end to his nonsense. Mike Honcho
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11:31pm Mon 3 Jun 13

pamela8 says...

Erith Chap, I,m not great just honest and I care...If you want to turn a blind eye to what this GVT is up to then that,s your problem...Gypo,,I,m a bully , oh really,,That,s what you do to people all the time,even when a family has lost someone you torment them i,ve seen it ,I ,ve seen you do that many times...And mike Honcho,,you say to end his nonsense? How sinister are you..you ought to join forces with Gypo and the like..you would get on so well...
Erith Chap, I,m not great just honest and I care...If you want to turn a blind eye to what this GVT is up to then that,s your problem...Gypo,,I,m a bully , oh really,,That,s what you do to people all the time,even when a family has lost someone you torment them i,ve seen it ,I ,ve seen you do that many times...And mike Honcho,,you say to end his nonsense? How sinister are you..you ought to join forces with Gypo and the like..you would get on so well... pamela8
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11:35pm Mon 3 Jun 13

Mike Honcho says...

Mentally ill, that could well apply to you too Pamela. I've read some of your posts and it's always the same whining, I pity any man who has to live with you madam.
Mentally ill, that could well apply to you too Pamela. I've read some of your posts and it's always the same whining, I pity any man who has to live with you madam. Mike Honcho
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10:54am Tue 4 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Just my opinion ( as always ) but I think both George and Pam should consider a check up from the neck up.

Well it sure wouldn't hurt now would it.
Just my opinion ( as always ) but I think both George and Pam should consider a check up from the neck up. Well it sure wouldn't hurt now would it. Gypo.Joe
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10:55am Tue 4 Jun 13

Toolbox69 says...

"The condition that affects Mr Rolph is the result of years of physical and mental abuse at the hands of a number of women."

He seems to have had an incredibly bad run with women if they all abused him. Could it be they fought back against his behaviours towards them? Is it all just a smoke screen to get benefits?

I would like to know more about what caused the abuse to take place so I can make an informed view. As that is not likely to happen, I will have to base my view on what is available, and on my opinion of likelihood of such abuse taking place.
"The condition that affects Mr Rolph is the result of years of physical and mental abuse at the hands of a number of women." He seems to have had an incredibly bad run with women if they all abused him. Could it be they fought back against his behaviours towards them? Is it all just a smoke screen to get benefits? I would like to know more about what caused the abuse to take place so I can make an informed view. As that is not likely to happen, I will have to base my view on what is available, and on my opinion of likelihood of such abuse taking place. Toolbox69
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11:54am Tue 4 Jun 13

Bob Downondiss says...

Attention seeking, it's nothing more. Once the publicity goes away this man will sort his sorry arse out I'm sure. If only people would stop pandering to him for a start.
Attention seeking, it's nothing more. Once the publicity goes away this man will sort his sorry arse out I'm sure. If only people would stop pandering to him for a start. Bob Downondiss
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8:40pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Simon bald says...

every woman abused him? lucky sod I would pay dollars for that
every woman abused him? lucky sod I would pay dollars for that Simon bald
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10:44pm Tue 4 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

I'd like to know just who these women were who abused George no nuts.

Name and shame 'em George, unless of course they are all a figment of your over active imagination.
I'd like to know just who these women were who abused George no nuts. Name and shame 'em George, unless of course they are all a figment of your over active imagination. Gypo.Joe
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2:36pm Wed 5 Jun 13

dippy2 says...

its a sign of the times ,how some people on here have commented , go work ect and worse . your are no better than ATHOS heartless morons if that's how people feel today there is no humanity left and compassion SAD DAY FOR THE HUMAN RACE .Most people are not as some of the adverse comments , just the uninformed and speak without brain in gear .I hope George realises most of us thank him and support him . you ridicule him why ? because he's been open and honest with you ? more than a politician would be . he cares about people , he wants the cruel assessment from ATHOS stopped because its unjust and picks on the less able ,
in society the sick , elderly. disabled , and mental health problem people .these are less able to defend themselves .mr rolph is fighting his own plight and for others so they will not have to go through the same as himself .. to me that's selfless kind and brave so please the negative comments don't serve in this case .
please sign the petitions and write the latters as displayed on the act now button .
GEORGE keep up the good work there is plenty backing you .
its a sign of the times ,how some people on here have commented , go work ect and worse . your are no better than ATHOS heartless morons if that's how people feel today there is no humanity left and compassion SAD DAY FOR THE HUMAN RACE .Most people are not as some of the adverse comments , just the uninformed and speak without brain in gear .I hope George realises most of us thank him and support him . you ridicule him why ? because he's been open and honest with you ? more than a politician would be . he cares about people , he wants the cruel assessment from ATHOS stopped because its unjust and picks on the less able , in society the sick , elderly. disabled , and mental health problem people .these are less able to defend themselves .mr rolph is fighting his own plight and for others so they will not have to go through the same as himself .. to me that's selfless kind and brave so please the negative comments don't serve in this case . please sign the petitions and write the latters as displayed on the act now button . GEORGE keep up the good work there is plenty backing you . dippy2
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4:37pm Wed 5 Jun 13

nearly right all the time says...

Who pays for all this?
Who pays for all this? nearly right all the time
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4:46pm Wed 5 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

nearly right all the time wrote:
Who pays for all this?
"They" ( Georgina and his supporters ) don't give a fcuk who pays so long as they can all carry on sucking away on the government teat.

When you look around at the many disabled and mentally challenged you see working at some sort of job people like this clown should be ashamed of themselves. An able bodied man playing the system that's what this is all about.
[quote][p][bold]nearly right all the time[/bold] wrote: Who pays for all this?[/p][/quote]"They" ( Georgina and his supporters ) don't give a fcuk who pays so long as they can all carry on sucking away on the government teat. When you look around at the many disabled and mentally challenged you see working at some sort of job people like this clown should be ashamed of themselves. An able bodied man playing the system that's what this is all about. Gypo.Joe
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6:19pm Wed 5 Jun 13

pamela8 says...

Going to ignore all the hand shandy,s if that,s the best you can offer...You don,t agree with me ,,that,s fine ,,but you have to resort to making snide comments because I don,t agree with you.... Gypo..tut tut , check up from the neck up....so old so unoriginal... Thank you George for making a stand against Atos and the Government....You have shown great courage,,which is more than I can say for this bunch of wasters on here...come on last word freaks bring it on..all try to impress each other..see who can be the nastiest...
Going to ignore all the hand shandy,s if that,s the best you can offer...You don,t agree with me ,,that,s fine ,,but you have to resort to making snide comments because I don,t agree with you.... Gypo..tut tut , check up from the neck up....so old so unoriginal... Thank you George for making a stand against Atos and the Government....You have shown great courage,,which is more than I can say for this bunch of wasters on here...come on last word freaks bring it on..all try to impress each other..see who can be the nastiest... pamela8
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7:02pm Wed 5 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Talking about last word freaks Pam you need to go look in a mirror. You are like a long playing record, same old crap just another day. I pity your old man, if you even have one, no man in his same mind would suffer your constant BS. Not even for the occasional as you put it hand shandy dear.

By the way have you got a job ? Or are you on bennys too. I mean state handouts not Benny Hills as we all know you are on medication.
Talking about last word freaks Pam you need to go look in a mirror. You are like a long playing record, same old crap just another day. I pity your old man, if you even have one, no man in his same mind would suffer your constant BS. Not even for the occasional as you put it hand shandy dear. By the way have you got a job ? Or are you on bennys too. I mean state handouts not Benny Hills as we all know you are on medication. Gypo.Joe
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8:16pm Wed 5 Jun 13

nearly right all the time says...

Ms 8,

Who is going to pay?
Ms 8, Who is going to pay? nearly right all the time
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10:25am Thu 6 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

nearly right all the time wrote:
Ms 8,

Who is going to pay?
I'll give you one guess,.... and it wont be the teat suckers of this country.
[quote][p][bold]nearly right all the time[/bold] wrote: Ms 8, Who is going to pay?[/p][/quote]I'll give you one guess,.... and it wont be the teat suckers of this country. Gypo.Joe
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3:47pm Thu 6 Jun 13

nearly right all the time says...

Mr G.Joe

you are of course right!

these people think these hand out are a
right! and are quite happy for the rest of us to provide them from our hard earned
wages!
Mr G.Joe you are of course right! these people think these hand out are a right! and are quite happy for the rest of us to provide them from our hard earned wages! nearly right all the time
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9:47pm Thu 6 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

nearly right all the time I'm sure Pam will take Georgey boi under her wing and let him snuggle up to her breast where he can suckle away for the duration. In fact I feel sure there's more than likely an allowance Pam can claim for a dependent like George.

Today's the anniversary of D Day, those brave men put this clown to shame. The nanny state is to blame, benefit from cradle to grave if you can stay on the band wagon.
nearly right all the time I'm sure Pam will take Georgey boi under her wing and let him snuggle up to her breast where he can suckle away for the duration. In fact I feel sure there's more than likely an allowance Pam can claim for a dependent like George. Today's the anniversary of D Day, those brave men put this clown to shame. The nanny state is to blame, benefit from cradle to grave if you can stay on the band wagon. Gypo.Joe
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11:36am Fri 7 Jun 13

pamela8 says...

Same old crap is it Gypo...Do I work Gypo ? ..If you,ve read everything you would know that I do....And I have told you before I know who you are and talk about pot /.kettle, you are hardly the one to talk about who is or isn,t on benefits..You really are such a gross inDIVidual Gypo, you say so many disrespectful things to women on here, you just can,t help yourself but this is what 'men' like you do when they are firmly under the thumb of there controlling wives...If you dared say anything like that to your wife Gypo, well your days would be numbered.And your tackle no more so even a hand shandy would be out of the question for you...Anyway..its not about D,DAY its about the present day....only those with no real back up for their twisted views would use that....
Same old crap is it Gypo...Do I work Gypo ? ..If you,ve read everything you would know that I do....And I have told you before I know who you are and talk about pot /.kettle, you are hardly the one to talk about who is or isn,t on benefits..You really are such a gross inDIVidual Gypo, you say so many disrespectful things to women on here, you just can,t help yourself but this is what 'men' like you do when they are firmly under the thumb of there controlling wives...If you dared say anything like that to your wife Gypo, well your days would be numbered.And your tackle no more so even a hand shandy would be out of the question for you...Anyway..its not about D,DAY its about the present day....only those with no real back up for their twisted views would use that.... pamela8
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11:50am Fri 7 Jun 13

pamela8 says...

nearly right...you and I will pay...you must know that....you and I also pay towards children with cancer, people tend to forget its about kids as well..you and I pay towards the Rape crisis center.... nearly right...its not hand outs if the person has worked and paid in to the system, you must try not to get confused with the ones that have never worked , have no intention of even looking for work...That is where the real problem lies and the Government needs to focus on that..but instead what happens is the idea is to gradually see;p it in to the press. with scrounger type stories but not all and then some people literally allow themselves to be fooled and act like sheep...
nearly right...you and I will pay...you must know that....you and I also pay towards children with cancer, people tend to forget its about kids as well..you and I pay towards the Rape crisis center..[make any jokes about this Gypo and may God strike you].. nearly right...its not hand outs if the person has worked and paid in to the system, you must try not to get confused with the ones that have never worked , have no intention of even looking for work...That is where the real problem lies and the Government needs to focus on that..but instead what happens is the idea is to gradually see;p it in to the press. with scrounger type stories [some true] but not all and then some people literally allow themselves to be fooled and act like sheep... pamela8
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11:58am Fri 7 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

pamela8 wrote:
Same old crap is it Gypo...Do I work Gypo ? ..If you,ve read everything you would know that I do....And I have told you before I know who you are and talk about pot /.kettle, you are hardly the one to talk about who is or isn,t on benefits..You really are such a gross inDIVidual Gypo, you say so many disrespectful things to women on here, you just can,t help yourself but this is what 'men' like you do when they are firmly under the thumb of there controlling wives...If you dared say anything like that to your wife Gypo, well your days would be numbered.And your tackle no more so even a hand shandy would be out of the question for you...Anyway..its not about D,DAY its about the present day....only those with no real back up for their twisted views would use that....
You know who I am.....ROFLMAO.

Keep taking the meds.

PS, I have never ever in my life been on any kind of benefit. EVER !! I stand on me own two feet.
[quote][p][bold]pamela8[/bold] wrote: Same old crap is it Gypo...Do I work Gypo ? ..If you,ve read everything you would know that I do....And I have told you before I know who you are and talk about pot /.kettle, you are hardly the one to talk about who is or isn,t on benefits..You really are such a gross inDIVidual Gypo, you say so many disrespectful things to women on here, you just can,t help yourself but this is what 'men' like you do when they are firmly under the thumb of there controlling wives...If you dared say anything like that to your wife Gypo, well your days would be numbered.And your tackle no more so even a hand shandy would be out of the question for you...Anyway..its not about D,DAY its about the present day....only those with no real back up for their twisted views would use that....[/p][/quote]You know who I am.....ROFLMAO. Keep taking the meds. PS, I have never ever in my life been on any kind of benefit. EVER !! I stand on me own two feet. Gypo.Joe
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5:39pm Fri 7 Jun 13

Bob Downondiss says...

Methinks Pam does protest too hard.

She's hiding something !

Is she the one who brow beat poor George ?
Methinks Pam does protest too hard. She's hiding something ! Is she the one who brow beat poor George ? Bob Downondiss
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10:48am Sat 8 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Pam was spotted flying low on her broom over the Downham area last night. I think you may have a point Bob D.
Pam was spotted flying low on her broom over the Downham area last night. I think you may have a point Bob D. Gypo.Joe
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7:39am Mon 10 Jun 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Why are you so bitter Joe? You seem to slag off people who live in council properties, claim benefits, the list goes on....How about telling us what band you live in and how you support yourself!! Not everyone who live in council owned property or who are claiming benefits are scum or scroungers, so may I suggest to you to show a bit of compassion every now and then even if you have to grit your teeth? Or maybe it would be better not to comment at all if you are only out to have a dig!! (saying this in the nicest way possible of course)
Why are you so bitter Joe? You seem to slag off people who live in council properties, claim benefits, the list goes on....How about telling us what band you live in and how you support yourself!! Not everyone who live in council owned property or who are claiming benefits are scum or scroungers, so may I suggest to you to show a bit of compassion every now and then even if you have to grit your teeth? Or maybe it would be better not to comment at all if you are only out to have a dig!! (saying this in the nicest way possible of course) Inspirationalady28
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10:47am Mon 10 Jun 13

Gypo.Joe says...

G (spot) and I'm self employed at ducker and diver in the transport industry.

1-4-3 Lou. x
G (spot) and I'm self employed at ducker and diver in the transport industry. 1-4-3 Lou. x Gypo.Joe
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5:13pm Tue 11 Jun 13

George is a hero says...

What a brave man George Rolph is, here is a man standing up for the persecuted and disabled, and willing to give his life in their cause. He puts all the money grabbing, tax avoiding, expenses fiddling members of this spineless Government to shame.
GEORGE ROLPH, a true and honest man, God bless him.
Tories, you should all be ashamed of yourselves, but you're not are you, you are too busy thinking about where your next million pounds is coming from. SHAME ON YOU ALL.
What a brave man George Rolph is, here is a man standing up for the persecuted and disabled, and willing to give his life in their cause. He puts all the money grabbing, tax avoiding, expenses fiddling members of this spineless Government to shame. GEORGE ROLPH, a true and honest man, God bless him. Tories, you should all be ashamed of yourselves, but you're not are you, you are too busy thinking about where your next million pounds is coming from. SHAME ON YOU ALL. George is a hero
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5:55pm Tue 11 Jun 13

Julianne.D says...

George Rolph is a good and honest man, who has chosen to stand up for what he believes is RIGHT. We wholeheartedly support him, and also send Thanks that SOMEBODY is prepared to do this. Our prayers are with him. And shame on the likes of Brook (see above) But will pray that God forgives her ignorance
George Rolph is a good and honest man, who has chosen to stand up for what he believes is RIGHT. We wholeheartedly support him, and also send Thanks that SOMEBODY is prepared to do this. Our prayers are with him. And shame on the likes of Brook (see above) But will pray that God forgives her ignorance Julianne.D
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2:05pm Thu 13 Jun 13

gabbygetsme says...

Not being funny but ATOS would find a dead corpse as fit for work.

They recently stated a woman taking 10 medications to treat a longstanding cancer problem was fit to work. She died shortly after ATOS found them fit for work. All the people on here criticising the vulnerable people as scroungers. Be careful one day you may well find yourself in the same shoes. Won't you be a scrounger then?
Not being funny but ATOS would find a dead corpse as fit for work. They recently stated a woman taking 10 medications to treat a longstanding cancer problem was fit to work. She died shortly after ATOS found them fit for work. All the people on here criticising the vulnerable people as scroungers. Be careful one day you may well find yourself in the same shoes. Won't you be a scrounger then? gabbygetsme
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6:23pm Thu 13 Jun 13

George is a hero says...

Well said gabbygetsme, I couldn't have put it better!
Everyone should remember; "There but for the Grace of God go I".
Nobody knows what tomorrow brings, so don't pick on disabled people, because one day, that disabled person could be you.
Well said gabbygetsme, I couldn't have put it better! Everyone should remember; "There but for the Grace of God go I". Nobody knows what tomorrow brings, so don't pick on disabled people, because one day, that disabled person could be you. George is a hero
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