Orpington traders hoping for business improvement district yes vote

This Is Local London: Wheelie bins Sid and Nancy helped to promote the Orpington 1st BID Wheelie bins Sid and Nancy helped to promote the Orpington 1st BID

WHEELIE bins are not usually operated by remote control and they are not usually inspired by punks.

But when Orpington traders wanted to promote their bid to turn the town centre into a business improvement district (BID) they got Sid and Nancy to roll into town.

Named after Sid Vicious, from the Sex Pistols, and his girlfriend Nancy Spungen, the bins stirred up a lot of interest in the Orpington 1st idea during the campaign day.

On the day shoppers and visitors to the town centre were canvassed for their opinions about the idea of setting up a BID.

And this month businesses are being asked to show their support by taking part in a ballot and answering yes to the question: “Are you in favour of the proposals for the Orpington 1st business improvement district?”

If the majority of town centre traders vote yes the BID is set to come into being by April 1.

Orpington Business Forum vice chairman Chandra Sharma said: “Businesses: please don’t underestimate how important your vote is.

“We want to see the establishment of the BID so that Orpington becomes the first choice for customers, first for access, first for look & feel and first for business.”

More than £1m will be spent on improvements to Orpington town centre by 2018 if traders support the BID.

These include measures to tackle vacant shop units including rolling out a programme of pop-up shops and making shop fronts and window displays more attractive.

And also making the town look more appealing and make shoppers feel safer.

If the ballot is successful Orpington 1st will be funded by an annual levy of 1.5 per cent of the rateable value on all eligible businesses.

Charities and shopping centre tenants will be given a 50 per cent discount on the levy.

Click here for more details about Orpington 1st.

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9:37pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Slonik says...

Maybe they'll persuade the council to sort out the all dodgy pavements and road surfaces...
Maybe they'll persuade the council to sort out the all dodgy pavements and road surfaces... Slonik
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11:39pm Sun 3 Feb 13

goldenbroomboy says...

Orpington should be independent from Bromley.

When I was a kid Orpington was a separate borough, Orpington Civic Hall still stands.

UKIP screech rubbish about independence for "Britain" yet they care nothing about local autonomy.

Remember that next time a Ukipper nutter rants about "London" in your local High Street.
Orpington should be independent from Bromley. When I was a kid Orpington was a separate borough, Orpington Civic Hall still stands. UKIP screech rubbish about independence for "Britain" yet they care nothing about local autonomy. Remember that next time a Ukipper nutter rants about "London" in your local High Street. goldenbroomboy
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8:22am Mon 4 Feb 13

Slonik says...

Yeah lets have even more politicians,civic buildings and public servants demanding our taxes. We clearly haven't got enough have we... lol
Yeah lets have even more politicians,civic buildings and public servants demanding our taxes. We clearly haven't got enough have we... lol Slonik
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12:08pm Mon 4 Feb 13

MsChevious says...

Showing your age goldenbroomboy - given that it was the London Government Act of 1963, enacted in 1965 which joined Orpington Urban District with Greater London you'd have thought you might have got over it by now!!

By being in London we have better transport links, more joined-up Policing and actually get more money per resident from central government than other areas. How exactly would Orpington benefit from returning to Kent?!
Showing your age goldenbroomboy - given that it was the London Government Act of 1963, enacted in 1965 which joined Orpington Urban District with Greater London you'd have thought you might have got over it by now!! By being in London we have better transport links, more joined-up Policing and actually get more money per resident from central government than other areas. How exactly would Orpington benefit from returning to Kent?! MsChevious
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12:33pm Mon 4 Feb 13

goldenbroomboy says...

MsChevious wrote:
Showing your age goldenbroomboy - given that it was the London Government Act of 1963, enacted in 1965 which joined Orpington Urban District with Greater London you'd have thought you might have got over it by now!! By being in London we have better transport links, more joined-up Policing and actually get more money per resident from central government than other areas. How exactly would Orpington benefit from returning to Kent?!
This is not my usual rant about how I loathe the L word, my point is that Orpington is a busy outer suburban town which should run it's own affairs. Take a walk along Orpington High Street, do you think that it would be in such a poor condition if a local council with its own budget were responsible for it?

Dartford is an independent borough (ok its not exactly a tourist hotspot, but then neither is Sittingbourne), if Dartford can run itself, why not Orpington? As for transport links, they were there anyway. Where you are plain wrong is when you refer to policing. Orpington will soon have no police station at all, giving any villain a twenty minuite start from Bromley (remember the riots of Aug 2011) Surely you don't think that is a good thing? As for extra money from central government, that is no benefit to Orpington if it is being spent on Bromley.
[quote][p][bold]MsChevious[/bold] wrote: Showing your age goldenbroomboy - given that it was the London Government Act of 1963, enacted in 1965 which joined Orpington Urban District with Greater London you'd have thought you might have got over it by now!! By being in London we have better transport links, more joined-up Policing and actually get more money per resident from central government than other areas. How exactly would Orpington benefit from returning to Kent?![/p][/quote]This is not my usual rant about how I loathe the L word, my point is that Orpington is a busy outer suburban town which should run it's own affairs. Take a walk along Orpington High Street, do you think that it would be in such a poor condition if a local council with its own budget were responsible for it? Dartford is an independent borough (ok its not exactly a tourist hotspot, but then neither is Sittingbourne), if Dartford can run itself, why not Orpington? As for transport links, they were there anyway. Where you are plain wrong is when you refer to policing. Orpington will soon have no police station at all, giving any villain a twenty minuite start from Bromley (remember the riots of Aug 2011) Surely you don't think that is a good thing? As for extra money from central government, that is no benefit to Orpington if it is being spent on Bromley. goldenbroomboy
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7:34pm Mon 4 Feb 13

glenn_london says...

I was almost convinced until you used Dartford as a good example of local autonomous government. I do agree about someone needing to put right the road, surely these defects would come under latent defects and be corrected free of charge by the original contractor ... ... ... When?
I was almost convinced until you used Dartford as a good example of local autonomous government. I do agree about someone needing to put right the road, surely these defects would come under latent defects and be corrected free of charge by the original contractor ... ... ... When? glenn_london
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11:57am Thu 7 Feb 13

Invicta58 says...

Has anyone seen the background documents for this ?

http://cds.bromley.g
ov.uk/documents/s103
67/PROPOSED%20BUSINE
SS%20IMPROVEMENT%20D
ISTRICT%20F.pdf

It looks like a cunning wheeze for Bromley Council to slide the costs of the Orpington Town Centre Management (£67k per year) onto the BID scheme which will cost Business Ratepayers another 1.5%

Bromey have already wasted £2.2m on the Orpington High Street shambles so why not pile in another £1m to do even more tinkering.

What could possibly go wrong?
Has anyone seen the background documents for this ? http://cds.bromley.g ov.uk/documents/s103 67/PROPOSED%20BUSINE SS%20IMPROVEMENT%20D ISTRICT%20F.pdf It looks like a cunning wheeze for Bromley Council to slide the costs of the Orpington Town Centre Management (£67k per year) onto the BID scheme which will cost Business Ratepayers another 1.5% Bromey have already wasted £2.2m on the Orpington High Street shambles so why not pile in another £1m to do even more tinkering. What could possibly go wrong? Invicta58
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12:49pm Fri 8 Feb 13

rickfug says...

Strange how your title saye "Orpington traders are in hoping for a yes vote" All the small shops I have been talking to want a "NO" vote.
This is a scheme that has been endorsed by by a non elected and non representative body of people (Orpington Business Forum) and backed by the council as a way of reducing councils expenditure and liability for Orpington.
Many small traders in the High Street are struggling to make ends meet, so pray let us know how paying an extra 1.5% on our high business rates will help business. For non business owners please note average business rates for a small shop in the High Street are £14,000. add on to this rent and you can see why so many shops are closing.
The Council are spending £40k plus on promoting the BID, why? becasue it will cut their costs in the long run and put the costs on local business.
If the BID goes through expect to see more close shops and more charity shops in Orpington.
But then with a High street full of pound shops, charity shops, pawn shops and a skunkshop perhaps the best thing for Orpington is full closure and a return to residential housing, then the council can charge council tax and earn some money.
Strange how your title saye "Orpington traders are in hoping for a yes vote" All the small shops I have been talking to want a "NO" vote. This is a scheme that has been endorsed by by a non elected and non representative body of people (Orpington Business Forum) and backed by the council as a way of reducing councils expenditure and liability for Orpington. Many small traders in the High Street are struggling to make ends meet, so pray let us know how paying an extra 1.5% on our high business rates will help business. For non business owners please note average business rates for a small shop in the High Street are £14,000. add on to this rent and you can see why so many shops are closing. The Council are spending £40k plus on promoting the BID, why? becasue it will cut their costs in the long run and put the costs on local business. If the BID goes through expect to see more close shops and more charity shops in Orpington. But then with a High street full of pound shops, charity shops, pawn shops and a skunkshop perhaps the best thing for Orpington is full closure and a return to residential housing, then the council can charge council tax and earn some money. rickfug
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